Thanks for the review. I have already backed this unit. Please do a review with the NVMe drives used as cache. I would never use NVMe drives in this device as part of a storage pool.
@@fredwerza3478 They seem very serious. I have never seen this level of effort put into a product. Virtually instant replies to requests and questions.
i really appreciate the cooler fan design! Albeit, the RAM-Upgrade Maximum appears totally overblown! UGreen should concentrate on the OS and 3rd Party OS suitability! The CPU is way too much for the given purpose (solely file sharing is enough for most users, aint it?)
Given that I can get drives up to 20GB these days, I would only use 3 of the 4 drives for the RAID 5 storage pool. With "only" 3 drives, I still get a big usable storage capacity out of 3 high-capacity drives under RAID5. I would then use the non-member remaining drive as an independent drive to back up data from the RAID5 set. This way, if 2 drives in the RAID5 set ever fails, which means all data in the RAID5 set is lost, I have the data in the 4th drive to recover from. When the NAS itself fails, I can pull out the 4th drive, connect it to a Linux machine, and mount it. Has anyone tried to mount this independent drive taken from this Ugreen NAS, in a Linux computer to confirm that the data is accessible? I do not has a Ugreen NAS to test this out. I presume if it's formatted ext4, this should work, right? I would back up the data again to the cloud such as AWS or Google Drive for the remote copy for smaller files. With larger files like videos, I would back these up on an external drive attached to the NAS. This external drive is stored then offsite.
I completely agree. There are many variations to this depending on your needs. If you needed space on your NAS for lots of media for example, you could use all four bays, and then back up only critical data only to an external drive and the cloud. I usually start with 3 drives as well, even on 5 bay units and leave the extras blank, but mostly so I can grow the storage. I always backup to a second internal source and an external source (Wasabi) with the exception of straight media which I do not back up. As for the EXT4, it absolutely works. You have a great solution and thanks for sharing it.
The SODIMM that came with the system is a Samsung, however I would not recommend getting anything but a matched set. Past nightmares have taught me that, just my two cents.
Thanks for the thorough review. I have already backed this project. I second the request for performance when using the NVME drives as cache. Also, what RAM is compatible with this unit?
why is 2fa sms? ugreen should support totp mobile applications e.g. Aegis (or if they insist, google authenticator), or the new standard which is passkey. Sms should not be the only option 2fa, since it's the least secure of the 2fa options.
It’s version 1 of the firmware. Only the basic generic features are available to test the water. I usually don’t use a NAS until at least 6 months into the third major release of the firmware.
@@jasonluong3862 that is very prudent of you. with all these nas from many brands now offering automated updating, why on earth do they not offer deferr update (meaning allow to auto update to a firmware but defer so until after the firmware is at least like you said 1-3 months old before it does so). Because we know sometimes updates mess up and usually takes a few weeks before people realize how bad a release might be. An example of deferring updates is in windows 11. You can do that, but why not for nas? makes no sense. Deferring updates is better than not updating at all, and can protect users from potential bad updates that get pulled later. Also they could possibly add another option where deferring updates gets bypassed if a firmware is flagged as critical security update. But i guess the reason they don't do that is because it's too hard for them to code i guess 😅
Can you do a short follow-up video on how to use this NAS a video player when it is connected to a 4K TV with the NAS's HDMI port? I play my 4K videos from my NAS over the LAN, but notice that the videos don't look as sharp as it should be. There must be some downsampling due to the lack of bandwidth over the network, something that should not be an issue when the videos are played through the HDMI connection. The same goes with when I try to move the playhead to specific areas in the video. It's butter smooth when played on a computer connected to the TV via HDMI, but it lags when played over the LAN.
thanks for this review, probably the most deep one i've seen so far, including all the testing and the look around the OS, and thanks for showing the accessories, which lead me to believe i was right that this was a 110v~220v machine :) i backed the 4800 plus, i don't care if this is a USA & Germany only product as of now, i'm getting one no matter what, this will totally change the world of nas as we know it today, synology and qnap have it really hard right now
@@MikeFaucher good plan. yeah nobody wants an alpha review. i saw one youtuber do that, then they had to remind the viewers the previous video was alpha and things had changed.... 🤣
Thanks for the review. I have already backed this unit. Please do a review with the NVMe drives used as cache. I would never use NVMe drives in this device as part of a storage pool.
Thanks for the feedback and i will add that to the next video.
@@MikeFaucher Yes, I would like to see the speeds in a raid 5 and 10 configuration with cach drives
@@c4burst I will be doing a follow-up with the cache. Thanks for the feedback.
Nice solid review --- I've always been partial to Synology NAS but I'm willing to let other manufacturers woo me away
Hard to beat the hardware for this price and the software will only get better.
@@MikeFaucher it does look good --- Synology's strong point has always been their apps --- maybe Ugreen can give them some competition
@@fredwerza3478 They seem very serious. I have never seen this level of effort put into a product. Virtually instant replies to requests and questions.
@@fredwerza3478@fredwerza3478 Let's hope; I like the hardware.
i really appreciate the cooler fan design! Albeit, the RAM-Upgrade Maximum appears totally overblown! UGreen should concentrate on the OS and 3rd Party OS suitability! The CPU is way too much for the given purpose (solely file sharing is enough for most users, aint it?)
Definitely more than enough for most users. The RAM is helpful if you plan to use multiple apps but to your point, they need the apps first.
Given that I can get drives up to 20GB these days, I would only use 3 of the 4 drives for the RAID 5 storage pool. With "only" 3 drives, I still get a big usable storage capacity out of 3 high-capacity drives under RAID5. I would then use the non-member remaining drive as an independent drive to back up data from the RAID5 set. This way, if 2 drives in the RAID5 set ever fails, which means all data in the RAID5 set is lost, I have the data in the 4th drive to recover from. When the NAS itself fails, I can pull out the 4th drive, connect it to a Linux machine, and mount it. Has anyone tried to mount this independent drive taken from this Ugreen NAS, in a Linux computer to confirm that the data is accessible? I do not has a Ugreen NAS to test this out. I presume if it's formatted ext4, this should work, right?
I would back up the data again to the cloud such as AWS or Google Drive for the remote copy for smaller files. With larger files like videos, I would back these up on an external drive attached to the NAS. This external drive is stored then offsite.
I completely agree. There are many variations to this depending on your needs. If you needed space on your NAS for lots of media for example, you could use all four bays, and then back up only critical data only to an external drive and the cloud. I usually start with 3 drives as well, even on 5 bay units and leave the extras blank, but mostly so I can grow the storage. I always backup to a second internal source and an external source (Wasabi) with the exception of straight media which I do not back up. As for the EXT4, it absolutely works. You have a great solution and thanks for sharing it.
What RAM is it it from the factory, if a person wanted to just at a second 8G DIMM?
The SODIMM that came with the system is a Samsung, however I would not recommend getting anything but a matched set. Past nightmares have taught me that, just my two cents.
Thanks for the thorough review. I have already backed this project. I second the request for performance when using the NVME drives as cache. Also, what RAM is compatible with this unit?
I will do a followup on the cache. Here is a link to what I used (amzn.to/4dfMJNv) but most DDR5 should work.
@@MikeFaucher - awesome, thanks for the link!
why is 2fa sms? ugreen should support totp mobile applications e.g. Aegis (or if they insist, google authenticator), or the new standard which is passkey. Sms should not be the only option 2fa, since it's the least secure of the 2fa options.
Hopefully they will update in future but they are not the only one using this MFA for created users. Thanks for the feedback.
It’s version 1 of the firmware. Only the basic generic features are available to test the water. I usually don’t use a NAS until at least 6 months into the third major release of the firmware.
@@jasonluong3862 Absolutely, I agree but you do save some money getting now. That’s the only advantage. Great point
@@jasonluong3862 that is very prudent of you. with all these nas from many brands now offering automated updating, why on earth do they not offer deferr update (meaning allow to auto update to a firmware but defer so until after the firmware is at least like you said 1-3 months old before it does so).
Because we know sometimes updates mess up and usually takes a few weeks before people realize how bad a release might be.
An example of deferring updates is in windows 11. You can do that, but why not for nas? makes no sense. Deferring updates is better than not updating at all, and can protect users from potential bad updates that get pulled later. Also they could possibly add another option where deferring updates gets bypassed if a firmware is flagged as critical security update.
But i guess the reason they don't do that is because it's too hard for them to code i guess 😅
Can you do a short follow-up video on how to use this NAS a video player when it is connected to a 4K TV with the NAS's HDMI port? I play my 4K videos from my NAS over the LAN, but notice that the videos don't look as sharp as it should be. There must be some downsampling due to the lack of bandwidth over the network, something that should not be an issue when the videos are played through the HDMI connection. The same goes with when I try to move the playhead to specific areas in the video. It's butter smooth when played on a computer connected to the TV via HDMI, but it lags when played over the LAN.
Great suggestion. This is not my usual use and would love to investigate this topic. Thanks for the suggestion.
thanks for this review, probably the most deep one i've seen so far, including all the testing and the look around the OS, and thanks for showing the accessories, which lead me to believe i was right that this was a 110v~220v machine :) i backed the 4800 plus, i don't care if this is a USA & Germany only product as of now, i'm getting one no matter what, this will totally change the world of nas as we know it today, synology and qnap have it really hard right now
Thanks for the feedback. Let me know how you like it.
I put in info and it found nothing
Make sue you enable SMB per video and that find the device with the IP address
oo they sent you a unit to test. curious how this model fared. will watch ty
Yes they did. I postponed it as much as I could so I could review something close to some polish and the not the Alpha versions.
@@MikeFaucher good plan. yeah nobody wants an alpha review. i saw one youtuber do that, then they had to remind the viewers the previous video was alpha and things had changed.... 🤣