@@0xCUBE I mean I don’t see the problem with it… every person who skis an expert trail had to ski a green to start. And just because I started skiing younger doesn’t mean everyone else who didn’t ski when they were younger are barred from getting excited about the sport. If you are 20, 40, or 60 years old and just put on skis for the first time, don’t be rude, let them have fun too! If anything, be supportive, encourage other people to try skiing! We do it because it’s FUN, other people can have fun too!
all the comments are people not living in the east coast. honestly the conditions look not bad it is backcountry terrain but enough coverage. us east coast skiers will have more skill always then west skiers. obviously powder is fun. we have those days too.
As a west to be east skier, just want to say that there are a lot of great skiers from the east though most west coast say they are better. I think that east coast trail ratings are very easy, but this is backcountry and it is very hard to
I used to patrol at th Bush , and I was SO glad for each day that went by where people did NOT go n get lost in th outback. Even several of my patrol friends, who insisted on trying out these ledges, were really not skiing it in a manner that spelled "having fun" : When your so_called fabulous run involves stopping, traversing excessively and hockey_checking between every other tree, it aint convincing anyone of its merits. A run that actually permits relaxed turns, in continuum, is normally both safer AND more rewarding.
To each his own. I love to make continuous turns as much as the next guy, but I also like the challenge of getting down a narrow path, navigating hazards, trees and other obstacles. For me it’s like technical mountain climbing in reverse.
As an actual old patroler you would go in with a first aid toboggan from the top and it would really easy with 20 feet of rope.if ud Evan bother because he's out of bounds. There's not enough snow and the trees are 2 dense for a snowmobile. Not evan an option.
@@jarastafaria3088It's so interesting the variety of attitudes amongst patrollers. On one hand some of them see themselves as EMS and like paramedics they'll do their best to help people in need. On the other hand there are people like you.
@@jarastafaria3088 THIS!!! This is exactly why I place disclaimers on all my newer backcountry videos, ski patrol may not help you if you’re stuck in backcountry! Not that I am trying to say you’re wrong for not helping me in this situation if I’m hurt, I totally understand, after all I’m technically not even in the resort in this video.
Update: did it with my brother today, it was indeed sick. The cliffs were the easy part, glades after kicked our ass. We went all the way down to Bailout. Would not recommend; probably better to cut hard right back to paradise/lower paradise
I also did it last week! It is definitely true that the woods are the hard part, the cliff is very much for showing off. I will also say I’ve skied it later in the season when it gets more filled in and it’s loads better. Last weekend there wasn’t enough snow to really fill in the backcountry, so maybe try it again later season when it’s more filled in! Super fun trail!
Paradise Cliffs? The top, where the cliffs are, is called The Church. I've seen some of your other vids. You're good enough to ski a lot of it, but you shouldn't be soloing upper Black Hole, or anything off the map like this. Get a friend or two to go with.
just got a taste of that myself at stowe... went alone hiking off the peak at spruce and ended up in the back country of smugglers... never alone again
To be honest, I agree with this. Best number to go with is 3, since 1 can wait with you, other can go get help if you get really hurt. Really, you shouldn't be skiing anything hard in the trees alone. Too much risk.
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy @mybadvideos I love both of your videos keep it up. my 12yo son started a ski channel. ruclips.net/channel/UC-s8TVTH69kg1NEnF5SoguQ I created a monster and cant keep him out of the trees.
Everyone talks about how much easier west skiing is. Maybe on wide open powder runs but there's plenty of cliffs and chutes that take expert technique even with the powder. Picking your way down icy chutes might make for some skiing skill but certain conditions making skiing more difficult doesn't make it good
While your point is valid, it doesn’t apply to this video. This guy is not at all claiming that what he is doing is harder than all the skiing out west. He’s just showing off something difficult he did, which you can do without claiming to be the best skier or anything
@@ashassassin7153 I use a GoPro hero 7 white, but if I was going to buy a GoPro I’d go with a hero 11 black. It’s the same exact price, but the hero11 black is way newer, more capable, and just better. I made a pretty bad choice buying mine, BUT I’ve had it for YEARS and it’s still going strong! Basically, doesn’t matter, GoPro is an amazing brand, so just get what you feel is good from them, as long as it works it should be great!
The only problem is that this is Nothing like Southern California or Northern California resorts where you can get in the trees and just let it RIP. Plus way too many rocks under the snow. You can't go fast... No Fun
I grew up in the East and skied a ton in the West (Tahoe, Colorado, Utah, Montana, New Mexico), I gravitate to technical skiing that challenges me physically and mentally. The ridge along Sugarbush and Mad River Glen is among the best “intellectual“ skiing on the East coast. Always demanding, tons of fun.
This nice thing is if you can ski tight trees and hard pack on the east the west is like a soft pillow. The west makes you think your good. This type of skiing sorts that out. Take care
@@mtadams2009 The east has no choice but to make the best of a compromised situation. In the west, it is just way more fun, and that is what it is all about. Surviving an ice strewn trail isn't fun. I've done it many times. Skiing in good coverage is. It's that simple. Nothing personal.
@@easternyellowjacket276 I get your point but to be honest I have had some marginal conditions out west, especially the last twenty years. I have also had some incredible skiing too. The whole the east never gets snow and it’s always ice is complete f nonsense. Jay Peak has received over 325 this year alone and Killington about 200 so yes it snows. Last week we received over three feet and if you can’t have fun with that then there is not much I can say. We all can’t live out west but I still get 50 plus days a year and a lot of that has been very good. This is the year I should have gone to Alta or JH they have gotten hammered. My trip to Colorado was ok last year. There was no shortage of hard pack but we made it work. My last trip to JH was a complete shit show, rock hard and no snow to be had.
@@mtadams2009 One year back in the 90's when I skied at Squaw Valley for the winter, they had almost nothing until Mid January. So I get that sometimes they do have lean conditions out west. BTW, Jay Peak has not received 325" of snow, despite their outright lies. 352" would be 27 feet of snow. I know there are thaw cycles and rain events that will melt snow in eastern winters. Even taking that into consideration on non-snowmaking areas, there'd still be at least 10 ft still on the ground. And I've watched video in the glades recently of Jay Peak glades, and there is lucky if they have 2.5-3ft. It's a huge marketing lie on their part to get people to drive all the way up there.
That doesn't look fun. I grew up skiing in the West and love open tree skiing and open bowls or chutes. I think I'd be claustrophobic skiing in the East.
Not to be discouraging, but I think you're in over your head on a lot of these videos. You're not really skiing anything so much as picking your way down it, start-stop, start-stop, start-stop. Maybe you could run these a few times, get familiar with the line, work out your path, then record a nice smooth run? This literally looks terrible.
As a younger skier, I haven't had the time to lap many of these runs. But I hear what you're saying, and this coming season I already feel a lot more confident in my ability. I have done this run several times (this video was my first time ever doing it) and now I breeze through the entire thing and it is definitely better content. (I recorded that run just last week but the gopro died almost instantly which sucks but oh well, I'll get it again). But I definitely hear what you're saying, and if you look at the videos I make this season, I think you'll see a lot less of that stop-start action.
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This is a perfect illustration of what I mean when I tell skiers out west that tree skiing in the east is tight.
Ive skied Church about 10 years ago. What a great video
Fantastic video! Makes me miss the skiing season already! Went to sugarbush once last season. This will for sure be added to my bucketlist!
I’ve also recently started skiing and I’m loving it so far!
"also" I think this guy has been skiing for a pretty long time
@@0xCUBE litterally hes in backcountry terrain thats expert 😂😂😩
Probably ruining it for others
@@0xCUBE I mean I don’t see the problem with it… every person who skis an expert trail had to ski a green to start. And just because I started skiing younger doesn’t mean everyone else who didn’t ski when they were younger are barred from getting excited about the sport.
If you are 20, 40, or 60 years old and just put on skis for the first time, don’t be rude, let them have fun too!
If anything, be supportive, encourage other people to try skiing! We do it because it’s FUN, other people can have fun too!
@@ThatPinkSuitGuywell said
all the comments are people not living in the east coast. honestly the conditions look not bad it is backcountry terrain but enough coverage. us east coast skiers will have more skill always then west skiers. obviously powder is fun. we have those days too.
No we dont
As a west to be east skier, just want to say that there are a lot of great skiers from the east though most west coast say they are better. I think that east coast trail ratings are very easy, but this is backcountry and it is very hard to
I went to snowbird and skied the whole mountain and saying to myself this so easy compared to icy east coast trails
@@strubs16That really depends on the mountain.
@@Molly-jh4kz I am yet to see a east coast rating system that compares to my resort in the Rockies
I used to patrol at th Bush , and I was SO glad for each day that went by where people did NOT go n get lost in th outback.
Even several of my patrol friends, who insisted on trying out these ledges, were really not skiing it in a manner that spelled "having fun" :
When your so_called fabulous run involves stopping, traversing excessively and hockey_checking between every other tree, it aint convincing anyone of its merits.
A run that actually permits relaxed turns, in continuum, is normally both safer AND more rewarding.
I miss the ski season a sugarbush 2 rimrun
And I miss tumbler
Nerd. Learn to have fun
To each his own. I love to make continuous turns as much as the next guy, but I also like the challenge of getting down a narrow path, navigating hazards, trees and other obstacles. For me it’s like technical mountain climbing in reverse.
How can u hate on this, its the closest we can get to west coast 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the tour!
Bro I love that you post even with no subscribers you deserve way more! Keep up the good content
As an old patrol I can't help but think how much fun it would be getting a sled thru there.
As an actual old patroler you would go in with a first aid toboggan from the top and it would really easy with 20 feet of rope.if ud Evan bother because he's out of bounds. There's not enough snow and the trees are 2 dense for a snowmobile. Not evan an option.
As someone who tore my ACL in the Trees under the ski lift I have to say, " YOUR BEING SARCASTIC FUNNY."
@@jarastafaria3088It's so interesting the variety of attitudes amongst patrollers. On one hand some of them see themselves as EMS and like paramedics they'll do their best to help people in need. On the other hand there are people like you.
@@jarastafaria3088 THIS!!! This is exactly why I place disclaimers on all my newer backcountry videos, ski patrol may not help you if you’re stuck in backcountry!
Not that I am trying to say you’re wrong for not helping me in this situation if I’m hurt, I totally understand, after all I’m technically not even in the resort in this video.
I skied it Tuesday with 20 inches of fresh….😊
you can actually hike the paradise glade ridge line all the way to castle rock
Wow this looks sick
Update: did it with my brother today, it was indeed sick. The cliffs were the easy part, glades after kicked our ass. We went all the way down to Bailout. Would not recommend; probably better to cut hard right back to paradise/lower paradise
I also did it last week! It is definitely true that the woods are the hard part, the cliff is very much for showing off. I will also say I’ve skied it later in the season when it gets more filled in and it’s loads better. Last weekend there wasn’t enough snow to really fill in the backcountry, so maybe try it again later season when it’s more filled in! Super fun trail!
Looks so much like Sugarloaf
Good skiing. I think it's a little more than my skill level, especially at the top.
One man’s lemon is another man’s lemonade ⛷️
I’m gonna use this
Love sugarbush but not seeing this to be an option especially solo
Awesome man. Grew up doing the Church need to get back out to Sugarbush.
the man who made the video doesnt even know what its called, and spoiled the location too 🤣
Your Judy absolutely destroying your skis and acting like nothing happened😂
If the pom pom on my hat is catching tree branches I'm not having fun.
Paradise Cliffs? The top, where the cliffs are, is called The Church.
I've seen some of your other vids. You're good enough to ski a lot of it, but you shouldn't be soloing upper Black Hole, or anything off the map like this. Get a friend or two to go with.
just got a taste of that myself at stowe... went alone hiking off the peak at spruce and ended up in the back country of smugglers... never alone again
To be honest, I agree with this. Best number to go with is 3, since 1 can wait with you, other can go get help if you get really hurt. Really, you shouldn't be skiing anything hard in the trees alone. Too much risk.
I still haven't hit "The Church". Good job getting down it.
Update: finally hit it!
Thanks, love your videos dude!
Same, today!
we should meet up sometime@@ThatPinkSuitGuy
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy @mybadvideos I love both of your videos keep it up. my 12yo son started a ski channel. ruclips.net/channel/UC-s8TVTH69kg1NEnF5SoguQ I created a monster and cant keep him out of the trees.
So excited for the next video!
I plan on editing one tonight so just hold tight haha, so glad you enjoy!
Everyone talks about how much easier west skiing is. Maybe on wide open powder runs but there's plenty of cliffs and chutes that take expert technique even with the powder. Picking your way down icy chutes might make for some skiing skill but certain conditions making skiing more difficult doesn't make it good
btw not bragging or saying I'm an expert cause I'm not but I have seen people ski some gnarly ass shit in the west
While your point is valid, it doesn’t apply to this video. This guy is not at all claiming that what he is doing is harder than all the skiing out west. He’s just showing off something difficult he did, which you can do without claiming to be the best skier or anything
So its just discount Mad river?
Come ski Snowbird Utah. Cliff paradise.
What other sport can you get such amazing views, and those views are just a secondary benefit of doing the sport? Skiing is the best
Skiies this last Thursday. Zero visibility. Similar conditions. It was awesome.
Is it really skiable right now?! No way… might need to check it out
The church is sweet. That cliff is called the alter. My Buddys dad dropped has dropped it
Bro please have some love for your skis
Where is this? Which state?
Sugarbush in Vermont
Elevation 3812'. East coast do be hittin' different
Thats what i was just thinking, about the same elevation as my house, and I live in a valley with mountains 4000 plus feet higher on all sides
What camera do you use for these videos?
I use a GoPro
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy Which type tho
@@ashassassin7153 I use a GoPro hero 7 white, but if I was going to buy a GoPro I’d go with a hero 11 black. It’s the same exact price, but the hero11 black is way newer, more capable, and just better. I made a pretty bad choice buying mine, BUT I’ve had it for YEARS and it’s still going strong! Basically, doesn’t matter, GoPro is an amazing brand, so just get what you feel is good from them, as long as it works it should be great!
The only problem is that this is Nothing like Southern California or Northern California resorts where you can get in the trees and just let it RIP. Plus way too many rocks under the snow. You can't go fast... No Fun
I grew up in the East and skied a ton in the West (Tahoe, Colorado, Utah, Montana, New Mexico), I gravitate to technical skiing that challenges me physically and mentally. The ridge along Sugarbush and Mad River Glen is among the best “intellectual“ skiing on the East coast. Always demanding, tons of fun.
Cool video. I love steeps and trees, but this does not look fun at all lol
turst me it is
Bring a friend next time.
sketchyyyyy lol. be careful man, one wrong turn into tree or rock and no one saving you for awhile, if at all.
If you get a chance someday, get out to Palisades Tahoe from some real skiing. 😉
This nice thing is if you can ski tight trees and hard pack on the east the west is like a soft pillow. The west makes you think your good. This type of skiing sorts that out. Take care
@@mtadams2009 The east has no choice but to make the best of a compromised situation. In the west, it is just way more fun, and that is what it is all about. Surviving an ice strewn trail isn't fun. I've done it many times. Skiing in good coverage is. It's that simple. Nothing personal.
@@easternyellowjacket276 I get your point but to be honest I have had some marginal conditions out west, especially the last twenty years. I have also had some incredible skiing too. The whole the east never gets snow and it’s always ice is complete f nonsense. Jay Peak has received over 325 this year alone and Killington about 200 so yes it snows. Last week we received over three feet and if you can’t have fun with that then there is not much I can say. We all can’t live out west but I still get 50 plus days a year and a lot of that has been very good. This is the year I should have gone to Alta or JH they have gotten hammered. My trip to Colorado was ok last year. There was no shortage of hard pack but we made it work. My last trip to JH was a complete shit show, rock hard and no snow to be had.
@@mtadams2009 One year back in the 90's when I skied at Squaw Valley for the winter, they had almost nothing until Mid January. So I get that sometimes they do have lean conditions out west. BTW, Jay Peak has not received 325" of snow, despite their outright lies. 352" would be 27 feet of snow. I know there are thaw cycles and rain events that will melt snow in eastern winters. Even taking that into consideration on non-snowmaking areas, there'd still be at least 10 ft still on the ground. And I've watched video in the glades recently of Jay Peak glades, and there is lucky if they have 2.5-3ft. It's a huge marketing lie on their part to get people to drive all the way up there.
@@mtadams2009 #skitheeast !
Not worth all the faldeerahl when you just ended up in paradise glades.
classic new england glade run haha
Agree, this doesn’t look very enjoyable. Beautiful scenery but boy those are some tight turns. Can’t even get speed.
That doesn't look fun. I grew up skiing in the West and love open tree skiing and open bowls or chutes. I think I'd be claustrophobic skiing in the East.
Most tree runs on the east are not that tight. This is actually not a ski area run.
@@mtadams2009 Paradise woods is on the ski map.
@@idkwhattouseforname That was not Paradise woods.
it is alot tighter and harder that skiing in the west but the terror and adrenaline of it is honestly way more fun
The juice was not worth the squeeze...
Not to be discouraging, but I think you're in over your head on a lot of these videos. You're not really skiing anything so much as picking your way down it, start-stop, start-stop, start-stop. Maybe you could run these a few times, get familiar with the line, work out your path, then record a nice smooth run? This literally looks terrible.
As a younger skier, I haven't had the time to lap many of these runs. But I hear what you're saying, and this coming season I already feel a lot more confident in my ability. I have done this run several times (this video was my first time ever doing it) and now I breeze through the entire thing and it is definitely better content. (I recorded that run just last week but the gopro died almost instantly which sucks but oh well, I'll get it again).
But I definitely hear what you're saying, and if you look at the videos I make this season, I think you'll see a lot less of that stop-start action.
Looking forward to seeing it, @@ThatPinkSuitGuy
I feel bad for you bro….such bad conditions
Sorry I love groomers! White Walker skiing is to slow !
“Powder alley” bro what powder😂
WATCHING THIS REMAINS ME HOW NICE IT IS TO LIVE AND SKI IN COLORADO!!🏔️