Re-use of machinery - the engines from my father’s ship, USS Mitchell DE-43, were used in the Washington ferry MV Evergreen State, where they remain to this day.
Last known participant in the Pearl Harbor attack has died. Masamitsu Yoshioka, the last known participant in Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, has died at the age of 106. He was one of 770 crew members who participated in that historic event, when Japanese forces attacked the U.S. naval base in Hawaii. Yoshioka, a young 23-year-old pilot, mistakenly torpedoed the training ship USS Utah, which was a tragic episode in his life. Despite this, he rarely spoke of those 15 minutes over Pearl Harbor during his long life. Yoshioka survived many important battles of World War II, including the Battle of Midway, where he only missed out on service because he was on leave and his aircraft carrier Soryu was sunk. He also participated in the attacks on Wake Island and the Indian Ocean raid. After the war, Yoshioka served in the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, which replaced the Imperial Navy, and worked for a shipping company. In his later years, he often reflected on how war deprives people of a future, and expressed deep regret for those killed in battle, calling for peace and reminding about the importance of life and peace for future generations.
I don't know if this counts. In the 1960s I used to go to the Faslane ship breakers with my dad. We lived in a house with no electricity so hurricane lamps were a purchase we made more than once along with other bits and bobs. Those lamps had quite a long life in civilian use.
4:48 It's a pretty specialized community for it, but I remember being at a San Diego Comic-Con many years ago (back when it was held in the Convention and Performing Arts Center, before it outgrew that and moved to the new San Diego Convention Center) when the announcement spread like wildfire through the con that they'd found the wreck of the Yamato. The enthusiasm with which the news was spread was probably due to the anime series "Space Battleship Yamato", brought to the US as "Star Blazers".
we have a factory here that's suppose to have an air storage tank and compressor from a Essex class carrier catapult system to run air tools and pneumatic systems!! the story i heard is they're from one of the canceled carriers at the end of the war and if they run it above 15%or 20% capacity pressure they'll bust every air line in the place!!
Lead lines had another important function: Composition of the bottom. They often had a cup or hollow area that could collect samples of what the sea bottom was composed of, such as "mud", or "sand and small shell". Nautical charts often had this info (and local pilots knew it by heart}, so in some cases it could help pin down the ship's location especially at night or in poor visibility since this composition can vary a lot in coastal areas.
When I was in the Navy stationed at Moffitt Field we had a large WW2, era milling machine burn out its main motor and found a duplicate with virtually no usage aboard a mothballed vessel at nearby Suisan Bay. It was an interesting work party of twenty five or so sailors but it got done in a day
(Insert Gru's meme) USN: Send the PT boats, destroyers and cruisers! ALSO USN: In terms of PT boats, destroyers and cruisers... we have no PT boats, destroyers or cruisers
I remember a news report on TV saying that some geothermal plants were using surplus WW2 destroyer turbines to produce electricity. According to the report, if I recall correctly, they were never installed in a ship and even though they were over 40 years old they were brand new. This was sometime in the mid 80's.
Thanks Drach! Any hope of some more peeks into Royal Canadian Navy topics in the future? I was unaware until recently Canada nearly purchased (funded) a Battleship in WW2. I'd love to hear more on this from you! Cheers from across the pond!
One consequence of the focus on the Yamato class post war is that it gives the impression that the Japanese where in a position of strength when they launched their attack. After learning more about how they viewed their position, my impression is they very much perceived themselves as the underdogs.
@@Unreliablecaptionbot I suspect all here are, or will be when they discover the channel. It is one of the best, with Unauthorised History of The Pacific War.
Drachinifel, when you will be in Genoa, Italy, you can visit also the Genoa Cathedral and look at the 15 inch shell that is still there from bombing by HMS Malaya.
Drach the question about the civilian use of Machinery from battleships reminded me of a story I saw recently. Apparently the city of Oslo acquired a significant amount of steel plates from Tirpitz and they are still in use by the city’s public works department. To your knowledge is this true? Were any other large portions of the ship persevered by the country it occupied for so long?
On the Japanese destroyers from world war 2 are weird train tracks leading to the torpedo tubes on the deck. Was there really small trucks onboard to reload the tubes? Can you explain this further? Did cruisers also have these? Thanks…and keep up the great work 😊😊😊😊😊
2 questions answered in a year? And very obscure ones too! Thanks Drach. I guess it would only make sense as an interim design as you transition from multi-twins to 3-triples. And Nevada was a strictly triple turret, not a 3-gun turret.
Some armour from HMS Vanguard was used as the floor in BSC river Don Works, there was also a lathe which had been salvaged from a German ship from Scapa Flow.
@@m37kuk A lot of streets in Norway are paved with the remains of Tirpitz. They also sell knives made out of her, so if you want to own part of a battleship….
in regards to the part about how would you build a sloop/frigate/DE to be sneaky and violate the treaty, i like the idea of larger than normal ship, and large area amidships that can be quickly converted to other purposes. so here's what i propose. take drach's idea, but in the center, you have drop down hatches like a Q-ship, to expose a 6" gun. and add another twin 3" mount amidships as well or another 6" gun there too. a broadside of 8(6) 3" guns and 1(2) 6", would be a deterrent against DDs trying to raid, and could possibly make a CL captain question if the juice is worth the squeeze.
Best opening tune on RUclips. I wish you’d speak about jazz bands like you’ve done episodes on ice cream. They do that with jazz bands to this day and poor Glenn Miller. I just saw a band under a turret last July 4. So awesome. Besides signals can you elaborate on the jazz bands on carriers and battleships
Under “a turret”. I ask you about this always. You answered the signal bits but I hope you go on about thinks just within the scope of it. You’re the best I hope I get to make it to victory or even just spread maps out in admiral lord Nelson’s bit. I have to keep asking. Jazz was very popular then. I dunno if it’d be bebop quit
I have been reading Robert MaComber's Honor series which gives a good representation of the state of the post Civil War US Navy. It got me thinking, suppose Congress decided we aren't going to have much of a Navy but the Navy we will have will be like the era of the six Frigates, that is, a few of the most modern types that are at least as powerful as any other Navy. What do you suppose those ships would look like? Everybody else's ironclads, or would they incorporate all the innovations of the Civil War Navy to create ship of a unique desig? For the latter, I was thinking of a large Ironclad with twin Erickson turrets fore and aft with a secondary battery in central battery position. An itonclad pre-pre Dreadnought if you like. Would such a ship even be feasible in the late 1860s/early 1870s?
About taking soundings in deep water, I half-remember reading of a Victorian machine which had a free-fall winch fitted with counter and tension senser: obviously the payout over-ran, and rewinding needed steam power. Currents and ship movement were a known problem.
I have to say, I keep forgetting Admiral Lee was only a Rear Admiral during Guadalcanal, and would never be a fully fledged Admiral in his career. Also, I find it amusing that the US Battleships of all warships didn't suffer any torpedo damage in those night engagements.
I have a South Bend 10L lathe that was sold to Seattle Ship Building of Tacoma Washington in 1943. It likely did service on a Commencement Bay Class CVE.
33:42 "and her shells work" interestingly the US also had more stable powder so had she been hit Texas probably wouldn't have exploded unexpectedly like the british ships did
Hey Drach! Whats up! I'm still watching episode 89 trying to catch up with the Drydock 😂.. how would one send you questions? I remember seeing pinned comments in other videos but I'm not finding them in recent videos.. something changed? Love your content!
The USN considered the waters off Guadalcanal too confined to safely operate battleships. Bombing during the day and torpedos at night were too likely to hit a battleship in Iron Bottom Sound. As Drach answered Washington and South Dakota were only sent in due to the lack of cruisers.
After world war one, a diesel engine was taken from a German u-boat and installed in a town centre building in Loughborough in the east midlands of England. I believe it helped provide electricity to the best of my knowledge.
I studied my engineering degree at a University machine shop lab fully equipped with old machine tools with’US Navy’ asset plates scrapped from several capital ships post war.
Using old stuff from ships; there’s a video on RUclips with the starting of a German ww1 submarine Dieselengine which is still in the Netherlands as a emergency power plant. German Navies Sailship Gorch Fock used a ww2- submarine Dieselengine until the 1990‘s.
In re the discussion on treaty cruisers and speaking of 8" guns in the interwar....how much belt and deck armor is needed to provide a reasonable level of protection against said 8"? What if they'd limited cruisers to 6.1" / 155mm, how much armor would be needed?
20:35 Had the Royal Navy had the money aswell as decided to keep the battlefleet, Renown, Rodney, King George V class aswell as Vanguard, would they have refit them all with the same guns? As you'd have a 16" ship with 9 guns, two 15" gun ships with 14 guns between them and four 14" guns ships with 40 guns, that is a logical (logistical*) nightmare. Had they decided to re arms the fleet to have a universal gun, which of the three would it be, the 14", 15", or 16"? They'd have more 15" guns spare but they're the oldest guns and thus inferior to the 14" due to being less modern and if you take tbe superfiring twins or the aft quad turret you'd have as many if not more 14" guns spare than 15" guns. Do you think the Americans would have sold the guns from the 16"/45s from the North Carolina's and South Dakota's and if so would they have fit in a older 14" or 15" gun turrets or would you need entirely new turrets?
Do naval historians need be held standards of accuracy applied to the movie "Midway" in Drydock? "Twelve guns on the Texas? She had ten 14" guns in twin turrets -- what were the other two?
@@hanzzel6086 I agree, my point was worrying about a piece of fiction being accurate. Someday computers will do accuracy checks as well as spell checks -- and we know how often spell checks miss a word.
While I agree with everything you said about the USA in the Pacific theatre of WW2, idk, maybe I missed what you said about the European theatre or maybe that just wasn't part of the question but the USA in the European theatre of war, in order to defeat Germany, had to resort to land based armies along with the help of the Brits & Canadian land forces, of course. But in order to have the Normandy landings be successful the USA & Canada had to use the island of England to amass all the equipment that would be used for the first fee months of the land campaign in Europe so as NOT to have a supply line reaching all the way across the Atlantic Ocean!!
I would venture, @Drachinifel, that many of those exulted scholars you hero-worship would trade a few book deals to have your popularity among the masses of casual history buffs. I think both serve the study well. Being willing to acknowledge and promote each others' works is the best way to keep it all alive, pulling in as many casual people as it will and uplifting those with deeper questions to the higher and more focused texts.
Thanks for answering my question! On your last point about how unnecessary focus on the Yamatos has led to a distorted public understanding of the IJN, I’d actually say this is exactly why the misperception that the IJN uniquely failed to see the value of carriers as the new arbiters of naval power is a thing: so many books and programs mention the Yamatos specifically to make this particular claim and this view seems to follow the Yamatos around in a way that it doesn’t follow any other contemporary battleship classes (even though pretty much all the valid criticisms that can be made about the Yamatos in terms of strategic utility vs. carriers can also be made against them as well, or at least the later ones like the Iowas, Roma, or the last few KGVs and SoDaks). As a counterpoint to that, though, I’d argue that the non-Yamato Japanese big-gun ships also had minimal impact on the war effort (the Kongos because, while they were more active, they didn’t have much of an influence outside a small portion of the Guadalcanal campaign; and the rest because they flat-out saw less service than even the Yamatos), so them being mostly neglected in discussions isn’t too much of a distortion either.
To your point, a least Yamato stacked a half decent kill count off Samar. Fuso, Mustsu and both Ises sank jack shit, Yamashiro sank one torpedo boat (PT-493), Nagato helped to sink one destroyer (Hoel), and the Kongos saw one successful shore bombardment mission and otherwise saw escorting duties and severely under preformed in any surface action they took part in.
Im not sure if it's just over here but due to the fear of liability these days most of the Defence equipment needs to be made unusable before being sold.
Your Italian pronunciation is fine! Just "La Spezia" should be pronounced like "La Spetsia" (pronounced like the 'z' in pizza). Also, if you happen to need this name, Dante Alighieri is pronounced Danteh Aligyehree.
Hi. Estonia is a small country near Finland by the Balticsea. Between two world wars our country Estonia Eesti ordered two SUBMARINES. One went to the bottom of the sea in Gulf of Finland at the beginning of the second world war. The other is sitill tere. Our submarine has its on muuseum with frinds with benefits.
A small and useless bit of information...the coal fired power station where I grew uses two steam turbines from a destroyer to generate power....I believe they are from a Fletcher class.
W/R to the 2019 Midway movie - I think the fact that they did a lot of things *right* that most people wouldn't notice (a *perfect* reconstruction of the Devastator right down to the tacks used instead of rivets, for one) just makes the obvious screwups that much more annoying.. IMO the biggest fault of that movie doesn't have anything to do with historical accuracy though - the issue is that it's trying to shove a half-year's worth of operations into a just-over-two-hours time. A miniseries in the vein of Band of Brothers would be a much better way.
Just started wondering, does anyone know how big team does Drach have? I only know of him and his wife but the amount of content suggests he has a salt mine worth of minions editing, writing and researching these videos
Speaking of unbalanced treaty ships, having spent way too many braincycles on thinking about AH better treaty designs that would have led to less cheating, and not force unbalanced designs to the same extent the historical treaties did, I've come to the opinion that a better approach would have been a rather simple limit on size and number of guns, but no displacement limit. Say if battleship guns are limited to 16", the UK gets 15 ships with at most 9 16" each. Or maybe the limit should be 15", as the UK would otherwise have built the G3's which would have outclassed all the existing 16" ships, maybe 15" would have made the G3's more closely matched to the USN and IJN 16" ships?
My candidate for inaccurate naval movie is U571. It's takes too many liberties on how the allies got their hands on the Enigma machine. The USN wasn't involved. The RN got it off U 110 when HMS Bulldog intercepted her. I wouldn't have been surprised if the unit aboard U570. Was captured off Iceland by the RAF Costal Commanf Hudson .
U-571 is exactly where taking liberties is ok. It does not purport to be an historical movie and their U-boat set are extremely accurate because they used the U-505 as reference to build the sets. Brits don't like it because most have never heard of the capture if the U-505 and think we are americanizing a British capture when the movie is not based on the capture of the U-110 or U-505
Reuse of military equipments in refitting ships? My tunaboat was rebuilt by an airforce engineer. He passed away a while ago. Much of the hardware is “aviation” grade😂
I finally had an opportunity to see Midway 2019 last night and word that I would use to describe the movie as disappointing rather than just bad. The movie got many small details right, like John Ford on Midway, but the story was poorly told. The original movie told the story better even though it had extraneous plot lines. Henry Fonda's portrayal of Admiral Nimitz was far superior to Woody Harrelson. Fonda spent time on Nimitz's staff and being a much better actor had character down pat.
Whenever I talk about naval history with co-workers or friends. They always ask if I have seen the battleship movie. I always say, "No. The movie is trash." Everything about it is so stupid
Wait. Back up. Dead ahead garage you. Cymbals? How don’t you have a car boat? I’m so disappointed your road boat is giving you issues. Serious tho. German or Japanese? Also you have kids? Drach one and two of do they have names that suit the class they’re in?
The breech of a 380mm gun from Richelieu/Jean-Bart battleship is used to produce explosives in an ordnance plant in France: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_380_mm/45_mod%C3%A8le_1935#Exemplaires_conserv%C3%A9s_et_utilisation_actuelle
Re-use of machinery - the engines from my father’s ship, USS Mitchell DE-43, were used in the Washington ferry MV Evergreen State, where they remain to this day.
Nice!
Last known participant in the Pearl Harbor attack has died.
Masamitsu Yoshioka, the last known participant in Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, has died at the age of 106. He was one of 770 crew members who participated in that historic event, when Japanese forces attacked the U.S. naval base in Hawaii. Yoshioka, a young 23-year-old pilot, mistakenly torpedoed the training ship USS Utah, which was a tragic episode in his life. Despite this, he rarely spoke of those 15 minutes over Pearl Harbor during his long life.
Yoshioka survived many important battles of World War II, including the Battle of Midway, where he only missed out on service because he was on leave and his aircraft carrier Soryu was sunk. He also participated in the attacks on Wake Island and the Indian Ocean raid. After the war, Yoshioka served in the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, which replaced the Imperial Navy, and worked for a shipping company. In his later years, he often reflected on how war deprives people of a future, and expressed deep regret for those killed in battle, calling for peace and reminding about the importance of life and peace for future generations.
Those who have fought in war can give the most valid reasons to avoid war. I wish fair winds on his departure and may he finally find his peace.
He lived an impressive life.
Thanks for sharing man
I don't know if this counts. In the 1960s I used to go to the Faslane ship breakers with my dad. We lived in a house with no electricity so hurricane lamps were a purchase we made more than once along with other bits and bobs. Those lamps had quite a long life in civilian use.
Thanks!
Drach is the nautical history content King!!
Nah
He's God Emperor of Naval History
@@Aelxi hmm, who is Horus then? 😀
@@Drachinifel probably Bearn
@@Drachinifel Horus is your weekend floor sweeper
@@Drachinifel Horus...not sure. There's a case for Animarchy being Fulgrim though... :D
4:48 It's a pretty specialized community for it, but I remember being at a San Diego Comic-Con many years ago (back when it was held in the Convention and Performing Arts Center, before it outgrew that and moved to the new San Diego Convention Center) when the announcement spread like wildfire through the con that they'd found the wreck of the Yamato. The enthusiasm with which the news was spread was probably due to the anime series "Space Battleship Yamato", brought to the US as "Star Blazers".
I’m not surprised!
we have a factory here that's suppose to have an air storage tank and compressor from a Essex class carrier catapult system to run air tools and pneumatic systems!! the story i heard is they're from one of the canceled carriers at the end of the war and if they run it above 15%or 20% capacity pressure they'll bust every air line in the place!!
I was in the USN in the 80s and 90s. At a reactor prototype we had WW2 Diesels taken from ships that where scrapped.
Lead lines had another important function: Composition of the bottom. They often had a cup or hollow area that could collect samples of what the sea bottom was composed of, such as "mud", or "sand and small shell". Nautical charts often had this info (and local pilots knew it by heart}, so in some cases it could help pin down the ship's location especially at night or in poor visibility since this composition can vary a lot in coastal areas.
The hollow was filled with tallow, a softish fat, which would retain some of the bottom, eg sand or mud, or an impression from gravel or rock
I work in a theatre that uses a repurposed testing/protoype lift from hms Ark Royal for our stage lift
When I was in the Navy stationed at Moffitt Field we had a large WW2, era milling machine burn out its main motor and found a duplicate with virtually no usage aboard a mothballed vessel at nearby Suisan Bay. It was an interesting work party of twenty five or so sailors but it got done in a day
When I want to relax before bed I listen to Drach’s soothing British voice.
5am wakeup, and a drydock! Perfect 😊
Right after a Jingles live Discord Q&A too...
Same. driving to a nearby park to do my bicycle workout, listening to Drac 😎.
(Insert Gru's meme)
USN: Send the PT boats, destroyers and cruisers!
ALSO USN: In terms of PT boats, destroyers and cruisers... we have no PT boats, destroyers or cruisers
I remember a news report on TV saying that some geothermal plants were using surplus WW2 destroyer turbines to produce electricity. According to the report, if I recall correctly, they were never installed in a ship and even though they were over 40 years old they were brand new. This was sometime in the mid 80's.
Thanks Drach! Any hope of some more peeks into Royal Canadian Navy topics in the future? I was unaware until recently Canada nearly purchased (funded) a Battleship in WW2. I'd love to hear more on this from you! Cheers from across the pond!
Just FYI
In the North Carolina (USA) election I saw this poster
“Drach for auditor”.
Gets my vote! 😎
One consequence of the focus on the Yamato class post war is that it gives the impression that the Japanese where in a position of strength when they launched their attack.
After learning more about how they viewed their position, my impression is they very much perceived themselves as the underdogs.
Great DD Drach thanks as always.
Just finished Woody's thoughts and answers, now Drach. How very pleasant.
Good to see a fellow WW2TV fan
@@Unreliablecaptionbot I suspect all here are, or will be when they discover the channel. It is one of the best, with Unauthorised History of The Pacific War.
I’ve actually used a lathe that was on a us warship (don’t remember which one) in 2018. Love those old machines
....and there's me. Drach is very humble.
God speed in your travels. 😊
Straight behind finishing 317 Part 2.
Thanks Drach
Drachinifel, when you will be in Genoa, Italy, you can visit also the Genoa Cathedral and look at the 15 inch shell that is still there from bombing by HMS Malaya.
Drach the question about the civilian use of Machinery from battleships reminded me of a story I saw recently. Apparently the city of Oslo acquired a significant amount of steel plates from Tirpitz and they are still in use by the city’s public works department. To your knowledge is this true? Were any other large portions of the ship persevered by the country it occupied for so long?
On the Japanese destroyers from world war 2 are weird train tracks leading to the torpedo tubes on the deck. Was there really small trucks onboard to reload the tubes? Can you explain this further? Did cruisers also have these? Thanks…and keep up the great work 😊😊😊😊😊
2 questions answered in a year? And very obscure ones too! Thanks Drach. I guess it would only make sense as an interim design as you transition from multi-twins to 3-triples. And Nevada was a strictly triple turret, not a 3-gun turret.
Some armour from HMS Vanguard was used as the floor in BSC river Don Works, there was also a lathe which had been salvaged from a German ship from Scapa Flow.
@@m37kuk A lot of streets in Norway are paved with the remains of Tirpitz. They also sell knives made out of her, so if you want to own part of a battleship….
in regards to the part about how would you build a sloop/frigate/DE to be sneaky and violate the treaty, i like the idea of larger than normal ship, and large area amidships that can be quickly converted to other purposes.
so here's what i propose. take drach's idea, but in the center, you have drop down hatches like a Q-ship, to expose a 6" gun. and add another twin 3" mount amidships as well or another 6" gun there too. a broadside of 8(6) 3" guns and 1(2) 6", would be a deterrent against DDs trying to raid, and could possibly make a CL captain question if the juice is worth the squeeze.
Best opening tune on RUclips. I wish you’d speak about jazz bands like you’ve done episodes on ice cream. They do that with jazz bands to this day and poor Glenn Miller. I just saw a band under a turret last July 4. So awesome. Besides signals can you elaborate on the jazz bands on carriers and battleships
Under “a turret”. I ask you about this always. You answered the signal bits but I hope you go on about thinks just within the scope of it. You’re the best I hope I get to make it to victory or even just spread maps out in admiral lord Nelson’s bit. I have to keep asking. Jazz was very popular then. I dunno if it’d be bebop quit
I have been reading Robert MaComber's Honor series which gives a good representation of the state of the post Civil War US Navy. It got me thinking, suppose Congress decided we aren't going to have much of a Navy but the Navy we will have will be like the era of the six Frigates, that is, a few of the most modern types that are at least as powerful as any other Navy. What do you suppose those ships would look like? Everybody else's ironclads, or would they incorporate all the innovations of the Civil War Navy to create ship of a unique desig? For the latter, I was thinking of a large Ironclad with twin Erickson turrets fore and aft with a secondary battery in central battery position. An itonclad pre-pre Dreadnought if you like. Would such a ship even be feasible in the late 1860s/early 1870s?
best saturday feeling, a cold pint and a new drydock!
About taking soundings in deep water, I half-remember reading of a Victorian machine which had a free-fall winch fitted with counter and tension senser: obviously the payout over-ran, and rewinding needed steam power. Currents and ship movement were a known problem.
I have to say, I keep forgetting Admiral Lee was only a Rear Admiral during Guadalcanal, and would never be a fully fledged Admiral in his career. Also, I find it amusing that the US Battleships of all warships didn't suffer any torpedo damage in those night engagements.
Best opening tune 🎶 on RUclips…
I tend to play it at 1.25-1.5 speed and it is very up beat. Reminds me of some Glen Miller stuff at the higher speed.
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Thank you.
Rodney/Nelson with a seaslug on the back......OMG!
I have a South Bend 10L lathe that was sold to Seattle Ship Building of Tacoma Washington in 1943. It likely did service on a Commencement Bay Class CVE.
33:42 "and her shells work"
interestingly the US also had more stable powder so had she been hit Texas probably wouldn't have exploded unexpectedly like the british ships did
Hey Drach! Whats up! I'm still watching episode 89 trying to catch up with the Drydock 😂.. how would one send you questions? I remember seeing pinned comments in other videos but I'm not finding them in recent videos.. something changed? Love your content!
The USN considered the waters off Guadalcanal too confined to safely operate battleships. Bombing during the day and torpedos at night were too likely to hit a battleship in Iron Bottom Sound. As Drach answered Washington and South Dakota were only sent in due to the lack of cruisers.
After world war one, a diesel engine was taken from a German u-boat and installed in a town centre building in Loughborough in the east midlands of England. I believe it helped provide electricity to the best of my knowledge.
I studied my engineering degree at a University machine shop lab fully equipped with old machine tools with’US Navy’ asset plates scrapped from several capital ships post war.
Love your videos! could you do a episode on HMS Electra?
HMS Hood was Britain's known Yamato.
Except Hood actually was iconic when she was still around, unlike Yamato which became iconic post-war and post-sinking.
@@bkjeong4302 the closest that I could get
Using old stuff from ships; there’s a video on RUclips with the starting of a German ww1 submarine Dieselengine which is still in the Netherlands as a emergency power plant.
German Navies Sailship Gorch Fock used a ww2- submarine Dieselengine until the 1990‘s.
In re the discussion on treaty cruisers and speaking of 8" guns in the interwar....how much belt and deck armor is needed to provide a reasonable level of protection against said 8"? What if they'd limited cruisers to 6.1" / 155mm, how much armor would be needed?
when i was a kid our building was using boilers from austro hungarian warship for central heating.... in the czechosovakia
20:35 Had the Royal Navy had the money aswell as decided to keep the battlefleet, Renown, Rodney, King George V class aswell as Vanguard, would they have refit them all with the same guns? As you'd have a 16" ship with 9 guns, two 15" gun ships with 14 guns between them and four 14" guns ships with 40 guns, that is a logical (logistical*) nightmare.
Had they decided to re arms the fleet to have a universal gun, which of the three would it be, the 14", 15", or 16"? They'd have more 15" guns spare but they're the oldest guns and thus inferior to the 14" due to being less modern and if you take tbe superfiring twins or the aft quad turret you'd have as many if not more 14" guns spare than 15" guns.
Do you think the Americans would have sold the guns from the 16"/45s from the North Carolina's and South Dakota's and if so would they have fit in a older 14" or 15" gun turrets or would you need entirely new turrets?
*logistical?
@@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh 😂 well spotted!
The whole idea of keeping battleships in the Royal Navy makes no sense.
Also RE: Midway, the Movie, don't even mention the mountain ranges in the Marshall Islands.
I was just wondering if you had any plans to go to Japan and see Mikasa, I was there recently and it was very cool
Do naval historians need be held standards of accuracy applied to the movie "Midway" in Drydock? "Twelve guns on the Texas? She had ten 14" guns in twin turrets -- what were the other two?
Probably a slip of the tongue
@@hanzzel6086 I agree, my point was worrying about a piece of fiction being accurate. Someday computers will do accuracy checks as well as spell checks -- and we know how often spell checks miss a word.
Who knew that Godzilla: Minus One would wind up being more historically accurate shipwise the the last Midway movie? And for a much lower cost, too.
No, it wasn’t despite our hosts opinion
@jeffslote9671 you really seem committed to defending the midway movie. I haven't seen it, in its entirety so i can't really agree or disagree.
While I agree with everything you said about the USA in the Pacific theatre of WW2, idk, maybe I missed what you said about the European theatre or maybe that just wasn't part of the question but the USA in the European theatre of war, in order to defeat Germany, had to resort to land based armies along with the help of the Brits & Canadian land forces, of course. But in order to have the Normandy landings be successful the USA & Canada had to use the island of England to amass all the equipment that would be used for the first fee months of the land campaign in Europe so as NOT to have a supply line reaching all the way across the Atlantic Ocean!!
Army at sea, or, a land based air force at sea!
I assumed this was going to be the mutual love and affection shared between the IJN and the Japanese Army...
Space Battle Cruiser Yamato (and its progeny) may have a good bit to do with this.. The show just turned 50!
I would venture, @Drachinifel, that many of those exulted scholars you hero-worship would trade a few book deals to have your popularity among the masses of casual history buffs. I think both serve the study well. Being willing to acknowledge and promote each others' works is the best way to keep it all alive, pulling in as many casual people as it will and uplifting those with deeper questions to the higher and more focused texts.
Hey drach, I read somewhere that jean bart had planed gass shells for her main battery, could you shead any light on this?
Why do people writing alternate history always ditch the economic concern at the drop of a hat?
Naval nerds have no concept of reality.
Because in general economic concerns where by far the biggest reason what they are proposing didn't happen?
Thanks for answering my question!
On your last point about how unnecessary focus on the Yamatos has led to a distorted public understanding of the IJN, I’d actually say this is exactly why the misperception that the IJN uniquely failed to see the value of carriers as the new arbiters of naval power is a thing: so many books and programs mention the Yamatos specifically to make this particular claim and this view seems to follow the Yamatos around in a way that it doesn’t follow any other contemporary battleship classes (even though pretty much all the valid criticisms that can be made about the Yamatos in terms of strategic utility vs. carriers can also be made against them as well, or at least the later ones like the Iowas, Roma, or the last few KGVs and SoDaks).
As a counterpoint to that, though, I’d argue that the non-Yamato Japanese big-gun ships also had minimal impact on the war effort (the Kongos because, while they were more active, they didn’t have much of an influence outside a small portion of the Guadalcanal campaign; and the rest because they flat-out saw less service than even the Yamatos), so them being mostly neglected in discussions isn’t too much of a distortion either.
To your point, a least Yamato stacked a half decent kill count off Samar. Fuso, Mustsu and both Ises sank jack shit, Yamashiro sank one torpedo boat (PT-493), Nagato helped to sink one destroyer (Hoel), and the Kongos saw one successful shore bombardment mission and otherwise saw escorting duties and severely under preformed in any surface action they took part in.
My shop teacher said our lathe had come from a WWll cruiser.
Im not sure if it's just over here but due to the fear of liability these days most of the Defence equipment needs to be made unusable before being sold.
I believe that the engines of the USS Kentucky were repurposed to power two fast supply ships?
Regarding 00:14:34 - UK keeping battleships post WW2. If money is no problem would they not complete the Lion class with the new AAA?
Awesome Drydock Theme. 😄🤙
Your Italian pronunciation is fine! Just "La Spezia" should be pronounced like "La Spetsia" (pronounced like the 'z' in pizza).
Also, if you happen to need this name, Dante Alighieri is pronounced Danteh Aligyehree.
What would the dutch navy during it’s prime be classed as? An army at sea or a seapower?
I did not know the the Jodrell bank radio telescope uses Revenge class parts. Theres a thing.
Let's be honest...a great deal of Yamato's fame is due to anime (where she saw more action than in real life).
Yamato does start showing up in media from the Early 50s onwards, but SBY did definitely give her a massive boost in public awareness.
@@bkjeong4302 Uchuu senkan, Yamato!
Hi. Estonia is a small country near Finland by the Balticsea. Between two world wars our country Estonia Eesti ordered two SUBMARINES. One went to the bottom of the sea in Gulf of Finland at the beginning of the second world war. The other is sitill tere. Our submarine has its on muuseum with frinds with benefits.
How would Nelson done in the Battle of Jutland compared to Beatty and Jellicoe if he was a product of the same time frame.
A small and useless bit of information...the coal fired power station where I grew uses two steam turbines from a destroyer to generate power....I believe they are from a Fletcher class.
W/R to the 2019 Midway movie - I think the fact that they did a lot of things *right* that most people wouldn't notice (a *perfect* reconstruction of the Devastator right down to the tacks used instead of rivets, for one) just makes the obvious screwups that much more annoying..
IMO the biggest fault of that movie doesn't have anything to do with historical accuracy though - the issue is that it's trying to shove a half-year's worth of operations into a just-over-two-hours time. A miniseries in the vein of Band of Brothers would be a much better way.
drach?, which ship / class of ship had the earliest dedicated/ specified anti aircraft armament?
For the US, the USS Texas (BB-35) received them in 1916, may ave been the first. My source was Wikipedia though.
A great portion of Yamato's fame are just Weaboos
Attempt #3: Guide on the Akizuki Class IJN destroyer?
Just started wondering, does anyone know how big team does Drach have? I only know of him and his wife but the amount of content suggests he has a salt mine worth of minions editing, writing and researching these videos
as a popcorn flick.. would like to see "Eyes of Texas" by de Cruz :) Nikita Khrushchev explained how to invade the US..
How would an Iowa have faired against a Fritz X?
Very badly.
Badly. To be frank I don’t think any battleship really was cut out to fare well against a Fritz X.
“A sounding lead also called a sounding lead”
I wonder if that explains the two names.
Only if one falls slower than the other. That is, it has a lead time.
Ice cream machines XD
Of course, by the time Vanguard is up for modernization, nuclear propulsion is all the rage. 35 kn battleship?
Speaking of unbalanced treaty ships, having spent way too many braincycles on thinking about AH better treaty designs that would have led to less cheating, and not force unbalanced designs to the same extent the historical treaties did, I've come to the opinion that a better approach would have been a rather simple limit on size and number of guns, but no displacement limit. Say if battleship guns are limited to 16", the UK gets 15 ships with at most 9 16" each. Or maybe the limit should be 15", as the UK would otherwise have built the G3's which would have outclassed all the existing 16" ships, maybe 15" would have made the G3's more closely matched to the USN and IJN 16" ships?
Is there a "however" and "theoretically" drinking game going on that I'm not aware of? Because if not, there should be 😁
My candidate for inaccurate naval movie is U571. It's takes too many liberties on how the allies got their hands on the Enigma machine. The USN wasn't involved. The RN got it off U 110 when HMS Bulldog intercepted her. I wouldn't have been surprised if the unit aboard U570. Was captured off Iceland by the RAF Costal Commanf Hudson .
U-571 is exactly where taking liberties is ok. It does not purport to be an historical movie and their U-boat set are extremely accurate because they used the U-505 as reference to build the sets. Brits don't like it because most have never heard of the capture if the U-505 and think we are americanizing a British capture when the movie is not based on the capture of the U-110 or U-505
Re "armies at sea", doesn't that make the British Army "a navy on land"?
Reuse of military equipments in refitting ships? My tunaboat was rebuilt by an airforce engineer. He passed away a while ago. Much of the hardware is “aviation” grade😂
I finally had an opportunity to see Midway 2019 last night and word that I would use to describe the movie as disappointing rather than just bad. The movie got many small details right, like John Ford on Midway, but the story was poorly told. The original movie told the story better even though it had extraneous plot lines. Henry Fonda's portrayal of Admiral Nimitz was far superior to Woody Harrelson. Fonda spent time on Nimitz's staff and being a much better actor had character down pat.
47:00 the breeches of the main armament must be open.
Whenever I talk about naval history with co-workers or friends. They always ask if I have seen the battleship movie.
I always say, "No. The movie is trash."
Everything about it is so stupid
Wait. Back up. Dead ahead garage you. Cymbals? How don’t you have a car boat? I’m so disappointed your road boat is giving you issues. Serious tho. German or Japanese? Also you have kids? Drach one and two of do they have names that suit the class they’re in?
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44th, 6 October 2024
DAY 79 please could you make a video on what if the Bismarck broke into the Atlantic or what if the the Bismarck made it TO France
You really need to let go with your nit picking of movies. Midway wasn’t nearly as bad you claim
Oh yes it was. Actually it was worse.
Who else has Drachinifel music on internal repeat?
The breech of a 380mm gun from Richelieu/Jean-Bart battleship is used to produce explosives in an ordnance plant in France: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_380_mm/45_mod%C3%A8le_1935#Exemplaires_conserv%C3%A9s_et_utilisation_actuelle