The monorail costs 10x as much to build as the Loop yet moves less people with wait times measured in minutes versus sub-10 second wait times for the Loop. With the 68 mile 104 stations Vegas Loop being built with zero taxpayer money, it’s not surprising that is what is generating all the enthusiasm.
problem with the monorail is it doesnt go to the airport the taxi unions fought against it as they wanted to have the monopoly much like today with limits to uber and lyft the unions are powerful there and should be done away with. I worked the project at the time, run the monorail to the airport get rid of the union crap and it will be usefull
@@jamesmick-zy4ip The original poster is right, he just identified them wrongly. I lived here when the construction started, and the Taxicab Authority was fighting the Monorail all through the court system crying that they would lose money if it went from the airport to downtown
Build an elevated tram/train from the airport to downtown. Doesn’t matter how many tunnels you build. Everything is on the same street. Traffic sucks year round. The casinos have the money. Uber and Lyft can’t handle the demand. It’s a big city now. Big cities have trains/trams. Or at least efficient ones do.
This all the way Las Vegas has giant roads. Four lanes on each side easily. You can put an elevated train down the medians. This boring thing is getting in the way of any reasonable transportation
It was never meant to be like this and it obvious if you live here for more then a month at a time Vegas was never meant to be this dude and it shouldn't
@@niilespunkari8832 Even and every trip is driven by a human driver. Can you imagine how inefficient that is? Also battery fire in a closed space would be highly dangerous. (For some reasons Tesla fans don't about about these.)
@@niilespunkari8832 Its inefficent for cost and resources is that not obvious? I mean you could put tracks in there and move hundereds of people at once or you can use car and vans and move 2-10? I think this is his way of easing into a hyperloop that never happened...
@@niilespunkari8832 for some reasons, the news never tell you that each and every side is driven by a human driver. It's incredibly inefficient. Also, the prospect of a battery fire in a tunnel is horrifying.
Vegas Loop is probably the most ridiculous transit project I've ever seen. I don't understand why they want to waste time and money like that... Las Vegas is in a desperate need for a rapid transit line that would connect Downtown with the Strip and the Airport via Las Vegas Blvd. In that case it would be super useful and popular among both tourists and residents, reducing traffic and improving overall experience for everyone.
A light rail line would cost billions of dollars and yet move less people than the 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop which is being built for zero taxpayer dollars. Why would you want to build a train line with wait times measured in minutes when the Loop is already delivering sub-10 second wait times?
@@andrewfranklin7087 May I ask where you got those numbers? Even if the Tesla loop ran with amazing headways, it would still have less capacity than the monorail. Meanwhile, a heavy metro line could easily surpass ten times the capacity of the monorail. It's helpful to differentiate transit modes by passengers per hour per direction. And of course, a heavy metro would do a much better job than light rail in this regard. A modern metro line could have trains coming every 90 seconds or better. And each one could fit upwards of 2000 people. The Tesla tunnels can't come even close no matter how often they have cars showing up. At best, it'll have the capacity of an automated people mover. And Las Vegas needs much more than that.
@@TheTransitNomad Hi TransitNomad. Here’s something I wrote a while back comparing the Monorail and the Loop that may answer a lot of your questions: The twice bankrupt Vegas Monorail cost $1.3 billion in today’s dollars (27x more expensive than the LVCC Loop) for a mere 3.9 miles of track and 7 stations. It had a one-day maximum peak daily ridership of 37,000 over its 7 stations during CES back when it had 180,000 attendees in 2014 which is 2.8x its current daily ridership of 13,000 passengers. This compares to the 25,000 to 32,000 daily ridership of the current 2 mile 5-station LVCC Loop during medium sized events at the convention center. (And the 3 original LVCC Loop stations each account for close to 10,000 per station of that total) The Monorail has 4 minute headways during peak times, 40x longer than the 6 second headway of the LVCC Loop EVs and 8 minute headway off-peak 80x longer than the Loop. And the Loop has average wait times of less than 10 seconds for passengers. And it is dreadfully slow taking 14 minutes to travel a mere 3.9 miles resulting in an average speed of 17mph thanks to having to stop and wait at every station. In comparison, even the Loop EVs which travel the 0.8 miles of the LVCC Loop in less than 2 minutes are faster averaging 25mph while the 68 mile Vegas Loop that is now under construction will have an average speed of 50-60mph. The Monorail is even less compelling and vastly more expensive compared to that upcoming Vegas Loop which is being built now at zero cost to taxpayers with the 68 miles of tunnels paid for by TBC and the 104 stations paid for by property owners who will get a station at the front door of their premises. With Loop stations costing as little as $1.5m compared to $100m to $1 billion for a single subway station, it’s perhaps not surprising that every business in Vegas is signing up to pay for their own Loop station - 104 hotels, casinos, resorts, the University (7 stations), Allegiant stadium (1-4 stations), the Ballpark, the Brightline station, the airport and increasing every few months.
@@TheTransitNomad In terms of comparisons to subways, this comment may also be helpful: The Boring Co aims to have a headway of 0.9 seconds (5 car lengths at 60mph) in the main arterial tunnels which means 4,000 cars per hour or 16,000 passengers per hour one-direction down the arterial tunnels of the 68 mile Vegas Loop. But, the Vegas Loop is not just one line down the centre of the Vegas Strip like a Light rail or subway. If you have a look at the map, it will have 10 east-west dual-bore tunnels and 9 north-south tunnel pairs through the busier parts of town. So theoretically just the 9 north-south tunnels alone could carry 9 x 16,000 = 144,000 passengers PER HOUR - not per day (and that is counting only one direction of travel) And that’s not including the 20-passenger Robovan that the Boring Co plans to utilise on particularly high traffic routes. Likewise, the Vegas Loop will have 20 stations per square mile through the busier parts of the Vegas Strip compared to the 1.3 stations per mile average of rail. The 3 stations of the current LVCC Loop currently handle up to 4,500 passengers per hour, so with around 17 Loop stations for every Metro station, each Loop station would only have to handle 765 passengers per hour to equal the 13,000 per hour of Helsinkis’s busiest station. Considering the Loop stations have shown they can easily handle well over double that per hour, that shouldn’t be a problem. Theoretically the 104 stations of the Vegas Loop could handle well over 200,000 passengers per hour. In fact, The Boring Co recently reported the Vegas Loop is projected to handle up to 90,000 passengers *per hour*.
@@andrewfranklin7087 Thank you for the data! Interesting calculations. I will look into it more. It's just really hard to believe that cars can move more people than trains.
Actually, the Loop is already moving 32,000 passengers per day, double the daily ridership of the average light rail line globally. And it does it with wait times measured in seconds rather than the minutes of rail.
As the cars move independently from any power source within the tunnel the idea would be to close it 30 minutes before such an event and dry it afterwards. Think the WLAN extenders etc. are mounted on the ceiling.
Previously Encore pulled out of the project, but when they saw the success of the Resorts World Loop station, they changed their mind and wanted back in - particularly after Westgate got the go-ahead.
The loop is dumb, low capacity, and not ADA accessible. Teslas sit too low for those with back and knee issues to get in and out of. Each Tesla requires a driver, which is not very cost-efficient. The Monorail has a much higher capacity but is not being used to its fullest potential. The monorail should have been built down the middle of the strip with a branch to the convention center and must go to the airport. To me, the Loop is only for the elite, which is what Elon wants anyway.
wrong. all cars have transfer boards for wheel chair accessibility and they also have a polaris ADA compliant vehicle approved. a tesla requiring a driver doesn't add too much cost considering nyc subways have 1 driver for every subway train yet they're running into a multi billion dollar deficit every year.
Please clarify this for me. Do you driver your own car into the loop tunnel or do they let you use their Tesla for the ride? How many cars per hour can the system handle? If allowed, the news should have done a demo ride, not just watch a car disappear into a tunnel
It's a taxi. You get into a car and tell the driver which station you want to go to. Eventually there won't be drivers. You'll enter your destination on a smartphone app. You can't take your own car.
Perhaps you’re not aware that the entire 68 mile 104 station Loop is being built with zero taxpayer money? Quite extraordinary compared to every other multi-billion dollar transit system.
How often does it rain really bad? Some of these tunnels have been there for years. Has it not rained really bad in years or have they built these so that rain is not a big problem?
Why would they want to have to pay billions for a train that has wait times measured in minutes when they are getting the 90,000 passenger per hour 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop being built for zero taxpayer dollars?
There will be 20-passenger Robovans in the Loop tunnels in the near future. Much better than surface buses that are extremely slow due t9 being caught in Vegas grid-lock traffic.
Las Vegas is a public transportation nightmare! Has all the right pieces but they’re assembled wrong. You’re better off just driving your own car. 🤦🏻♂️
Just build a wider network monorail with more frequency and affordable fares. The people will flock to it....but Vegas is too stupid to do that. I grew up riding subways. It was a way of life. Vegas just will always be a LOSER because they're too stuck in their West Coast ways and too stupid to benchmark other successful city's transport systems. Vegas is great for coming up with EXCUSES.
Great now your going to have more serial killers how you going to stop them if their armed with a bomb in a tunnel even the cops aren’t trained for it. What if the suspect decided to cave in the exits and entrance and your stuck with him . The hell with that wouldn’t even bother trying to go into a tunnel just thinking you’ll be stuck with some crazy person .
On the contrary, it is subways that are honeypots for terrorists bombs, sarin attacks and active shooters due to having such high concentrations of people stuck in the one vehicle or station platform waiting ages for trains while crowds never build up in Loop vehicles or stations with wait times less than 10 seconds.
This is an accident waiting to happen. Hopefully, they're not using the auto drive function in the tesla. And then there's those batteries that like to explode.
The Loop Teslas are using LFP BYD Blade batteries that can be punctured, crushed or heated to 230°C and not suffer from thermal runaway, so the chances of fire in a crash is very remote.
Why would they want to have to pay billions for a train that has wait times measured in minutes when they are getting the 90,000 passenger per hour 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop being built for zero taxpayer dollars?
Or don't we have an amazing bus system if you really want to use public transit use the bus I'll even give you the app names that help make taking the bus easy enough a mentally ill toddler could figure em out
@@andrewfranklin7087because that shit is ran by a private entity that at any time can just decide your not high class enough to ride in his overpriced golf carts Tesla is for moronic chumps who like being controlled
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 the trouble is the existing bus network is too slow, mired in gridlock with wait times that are just too long. And even the busiest BRT lines in the USA have a TOTAL daily ridership significantly less than the 32,000 of that little LVCC Loop. “There is significant variation in daily passenger volume among U.S. BRT corridors (see Figure 5 and Appendix A). In 2019, San Bernardino’s sbX corridor averaged about 3,300 passengers per day. Busways in South Miami-Dade, and Hartford carry between 16,000 and 18,000 daily passengers. Los Angeles’s Orange Line and Pittsburgh’s MLK Jr. East Busway carry the highest number of passengers each day-22,600 and 23,600 respectively.”
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 the problem is the existing Vegas bus network is too slow, mired in gridlock and with wait times way too long. That’s why the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor’s Authority (LVCVA) put out a tender for something better and is now so happy with the loop that they are extending it out across 68 miles and 104 stations around Vegas. even the busiest BRT lines in the USA have a TOTAL daily ridership significantly less than the 32,000 of that little LVCC Loop.
An identical idea from Miami’s Metrorail to Loop to what then became the connection to AIRPORT. I lived through all stages when I lived there. The loop was linked to the Metrorail. But here the Metrorail is NOT linked to the Bus Routes. Meaning….the bus pass won’t allow access to experience the Metrorail that in turn is a link to the loop. (Need to FIX that, it’s not fair! Bus passes are already expensive. Not being able to experience everything with “Public Transportation” is a damper. If you think about it….for those visiting could be beneficial to be able to have a separate public transportation plan that can cover all 3 modes. Where as the residents….can get the most of the city they live in, not restricted to pay extra for routes that are not generally a daily thing but maybe an access to shortcut traveling via public transportation to free up congestion and/or traveling time, being able to see ALL of it rather than PART of it. 🫶😇
Connect the monorail to the airport and downtown. The Vegas loop is ridiculous
It’s a scam duh
@@guillermogarcia57 Exactly
They should also connect the monorail system to brightline west train station.
The monorail costs 10x as much to build as the Loop yet moves less people with wait times measured in minutes versus sub-10 second wait times for the Loop. With the 68 mile 104 stations Vegas Loop being built with zero taxpayer money, it’s not surprising that is what is generating all the enthusiasm.
@@Perich29there is a Loop station approved and contract signed for the Brightline station location already
problem with the monorail is it doesnt go to the airport the taxi unions fought against it as they wanted to have the monopoly much like today with limits to uber and lyft the unions are powerful there and should be done away with. I worked the project at the time, run the monorail to the airport get rid of the union crap and it will be usefull
nice try subversive
you're right - We have an airport right in town and can't get a rail to it -
There are no taxi unions in vegas...you're talking out of your ass.
@@jamesmick-zy4ip The original poster is right, he just identified them wrongly. I lived here when the construction started, and the Taxicab Authority was fighting the Monorail all through the court system crying that they would lose money if it went from the airport to downtown
@@jamesmick-zy4ip Either your googler is broken or your just lazy but I just typed it in and there is... ITPEU/OPEIU Local 4873
Build an elevated tram/train from the airport to downtown. Doesn’t matter how many tunnels you build. Everything is on the same street. Traffic sucks year round.
The casinos have the money. Uber and Lyft can’t handle the demand.
It’s a big city now. Big cities have trains/trams. Or at least efficient ones do.
This all the way Las Vegas has giant roads. Four lanes on each side easily. You can put an elevated train down the medians. This boring thing is getting in the way of any reasonable transportation
It was never meant to be like this and it obvious if you live here for more then a month at a time Vegas was never meant to be this dude and it shouldn't
I worked on a couple of the vegas loop stations and i can confirm its a terrible system for moving people
Tell us why?
@@niilespunkari8832useless overindulgent fad technology designed to lure in drooling braindeads.
@@niilespunkari8832 Even and every trip is driven by a human driver. Can you imagine how inefficient that is?
Also battery fire in a closed space would be highly dangerous.
(For some reasons Tesla fans don't about about these.)
@@niilespunkari8832 Its inefficent for cost and resources is that not obvious? I mean you could put tracks in there and move hundereds of people at once or you can use car and vans and move 2-10? I think this is his way of easing into a hyperloop that never happened...
@@niilespunkari8832 for some reasons, the news never tell you that each and every side is driven by a human driver. It's incredibly inefficient.
Also, the prospect of a battery fire in a tunnel is horrifying.
Vegas Loop is probably the most ridiculous transit project I've ever seen. I don't understand why they want to waste time and money like that... Las Vegas is in a desperate need for a rapid transit line that would connect Downtown with the Strip and the Airport via Las Vegas Blvd. In that case it would be super useful and popular among both tourists and residents, reducing traffic and improving overall experience for everyone.
A light rail line would cost billions of dollars and yet move less people than the 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop which is being built for zero taxpayer dollars.
Why would you want to build a train line with wait times measured in minutes when the Loop is already delivering sub-10 second wait times?
@@andrewfranklin7087 May I ask where you got those numbers? Even if the Tesla loop ran with amazing headways, it would still have less capacity than the monorail. Meanwhile, a heavy metro line could easily surpass ten times the capacity of the monorail. It's helpful to differentiate transit modes by passengers per hour per direction. And of course, a heavy metro would do a much better job than light rail in this regard. A modern metro line could have trains coming every 90 seconds or better. And each one could fit upwards of 2000 people. The Tesla tunnels can't come even close no matter how often they have cars showing up. At best, it'll have the capacity of an automated people mover. And Las Vegas needs much more than that.
@@TheTransitNomad Hi TransitNomad. Here’s something I wrote a while back comparing the Monorail and the Loop that may answer a lot of your questions:
The twice bankrupt Vegas Monorail cost $1.3 billion in today’s dollars (27x more expensive than the LVCC Loop) for a mere 3.9 miles of track and 7 stations. It had a one-day maximum peak daily ridership of 37,000 over its 7 stations during CES back when it had 180,000 attendees in 2014 which is 2.8x its current daily ridership of 13,000 passengers.
This compares to the 25,000 to 32,000 daily ridership of the current 2 mile 5-station LVCC Loop during medium sized events at the convention center. (And the 3 original LVCC Loop stations each account for close to 10,000 per station of that total)
The Monorail has 4 minute headways during peak times, 40x longer than the 6 second headway of the LVCC Loop EVs and 8 minute headway off-peak 80x longer than the Loop. And the Loop has average wait times of less than 10 seconds for passengers.
And it is dreadfully slow taking 14 minutes to travel a mere 3.9 miles resulting in an average speed of 17mph thanks to having to stop and wait at every station.
In comparison, even the Loop EVs which travel the 0.8 miles of the LVCC Loop in less than 2 minutes are faster averaging 25mph while the 68 mile Vegas Loop that is now under construction will have an average speed of 50-60mph.
The Monorail is even less compelling and vastly more expensive compared to that upcoming Vegas Loop which is being built now at zero cost to taxpayers with the 68 miles of tunnels paid for by TBC and the 104 stations paid for by property owners who will get a station at the front door of their premises.
With Loop stations costing as little as $1.5m compared to $100m to $1 billion for a single subway station, it’s perhaps not surprising that every business in Vegas is signing up to pay for their own Loop station - 104 hotels, casinos, resorts, the University (7 stations), Allegiant stadium (1-4 stations), the Ballpark, the Brightline station, the airport and increasing every few months.
@@TheTransitNomad In terms of comparisons to subways, this comment may also be helpful:
The Boring Co aims to have a headway of 0.9 seconds (5 car lengths at 60mph) in the main arterial tunnels which means 4,000 cars per hour or 16,000 passengers per hour one-direction down the arterial tunnels of the 68 mile Vegas Loop.
But, the Vegas Loop is not just one line down the centre of the Vegas Strip like a Light rail or subway. If you have a look at the map, it will have 10 east-west dual-bore tunnels and 9 north-south tunnel pairs through the busier parts of town.
So theoretically just the 9 north-south tunnels alone could carry 9 x 16,000 = 144,000 passengers PER HOUR - not per day (and that is counting only one direction of travel)
And that’s not including the 20-passenger Robovan that the Boring Co plans to utilise on particularly high traffic routes.
Likewise, the Vegas Loop will have 20 stations per square mile through the busier parts of the Vegas Strip compared to the 1.3 stations per mile average of rail.
The 3 stations of the current LVCC Loop currently handle up to 4,500 passengers per hour, so with around 17 Loop stations for every Metro station, each Loop station would only have to handle 765 passengers per hour to equal the 13,000 per hour of Helsinkis’s busiest station.
Considering the Loop stations have shown they can easily handle well over double that per hour, that shouldn’t be a problem.
Theoretically the 104 stations of the Vegas Loop could handle well over 200,000 passengers per hour. In fact, The Boring Co recently reported the Vegas Loop is projected to handle up to 90,000 passengers *per hour*.
@@andrewfranklin7087 Thank you for the data! Interesting calculations. I will look into it more. It's just really hard to believe that cars can move more people than trains.
No thx. Dont wanna get stuck in those tunnels.
I mean you could have just put in a subway..... They move lots of people
A subway would cost billions yet move no more people than the 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop which is being built for zero taxpayer dollars.
@@andrewfranklin7087Hey NIMBY! Get your head out of your own rear! You’re clearly a Boring Company fanatic!
subway costs billions. so no.
It's a nice idea but it's not designed for large group of people. They need to build a real subway system with rail like any other city in USA.
Actually, the Loop is already moving 32,000 passengers per day, double the daily ridership of the average light rail line globally.
And it does it with wait times measured in seconds rather than the minutes of rail.
What happens when theres a big storm and the tunnels fill up with water??😢😢
As the cars move independently from any power source within the tunnel the idea would be to close it 30 minutes before such an event and dry it afterwards.
Think the WLAN extenders etc. are mounted on the ceiling.
@@gluecksdrache2054what happens if a car catches fire and there is someone in a wheelchair?
Elon has not thought about that yet
@@joeburch9220Elon is a bigoted notze, not a fool. His engineers have most certainly thought about flooding.
mr chips loves to swim !!!!
I see something we really didn't need but we don't get a choice.
How does it affect you?
@Bum_Hip I just think that everything should be built for everyone to use not just Tesla cars. I have a hybrid car but I can't use it in the loop.
@@zarennaangel1198 no one can drive their cars through the loop. You pay a fee , and are driven through the Boring Tunnel, in their Tesla.
@Bum_Hip still dumb waste of money. Imo
@@zarennaangel1198 how does it affect you?
what's taking so long for encore one to open?
Shoddy construction work?
Previously Encore pulled out of the project, but when they saw the success of the Resorts World Loop station, they changed their mind and wanted back in - particularly after Westgate got the go-ahead.
The Boring company? Doesn’t sound very exciting at all!
Except when they got it stuck building Seattle Light rail extension lol
Musk can't even automate vechiles in a closed system underground, the Vegas Loop is a bad joke.
the vehicles can be automated but the fire department wont let them yet. vegas loop is literally better than a subway.
The loop is dumb, low capacity, and not ADA accessible. Teslas sit too low for those with back and knee issues to get in and out of. Each Tesla requires a driver, which is not very cost-efficient. The Monorail has a much higher capacity but is not being used to its fullest potential. The monorail should have been built down the middle of the strip with a branch to the convention center and must go to the airport. To me, the Loop is only for the elite, which is what Elon wants anyway.
wrong. all cars have transfer boards for wheel chair accessibility and they also have a polaris ADA compliant vehicle approved. a tesla requiring a driver doesn't add too much cost considering nyc subways have 1 driver for every subway train yet they're running into a multi billion dollar deficit every year.
The hell with roads!
Please clarify this for me. Do you driver your own car into the loop tunnel or do they let you use their Tesla for the ride? How many cars per hour can the system handle? If allowed, the news should have done a demo ride, not just watch a car disappear into a tunnel
It's a taxi. You get into a car and tell the driver which station you want to go to. Eventually there won't be drivers. You'll enter your destination on a smartphone app. You can't take your own car.
Idea:
Get multiple cars
Hook them up together
Replace the tires with steel wheels
Put rails in the tunnel
congrats, you increased the cost of the infrastructure into the multi billions.
1:00 Bro understands public transportation
Nice but crappy hotel
what a corrupt money pit
Perhaps you’re not aware that the entire 68 mile 104 station Loop is being built with zero taxpayer money?
Quite extraordinary compared to every other multi-billion dollar transit system.
Just wait until it rains really bad.
How often does it rain really bad? Some of these tunnels have been there for years. Has it not rained really bad in years or have they built these so that rain is not a big problem?
Put a train in the tunnel instead of Teslas
Why would they want to have to pay billions for a train that has wait times measured in minutes when they are getting the 90,000 passenger per hour 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop being built for zero taxpayer dollars?
Isn't a new airport being built 30 minutes South of the current one?
Nothing beats the bus. and that's not saying much
Driving myself beats the bus.
@Deltron6060 parking
There will be 20-passenger Robovans in the Loop tunnels in the near future. Much better than surface buses that are extremely slow due t9 being caught in Vegas grid-lock traffic.
Boring CO still placing walls up to block strikers noise?
I’ve got a radical idea to move more people- a train
Resort world has a Vegas loop station
Las Vegas is a public transportation nightmare! Has all the right pieces but they’re assembled wrong. You’re better off just driving your own car. 🤦🏻♂️
It stops at mgm too so not true
Just build a wider network monorail with more frequency and affordable fares. The people will flock to it....but Vegas is too stupid to do that. I grew up riding subways. It was a way of life. Vegas just will always be a LOSER because they're too stuck in their West Coast ways and too stupid to benchmark other successful city's transport systems. Vegas is great for coming up with EXCUSES.
poc tesla junk
Great now your going to have more serial killers how you going to stop them if their armed with a bomb in a tunnel even the cops aren’t trained for it. What if the suspect decided to cave in the exits and entrance and your stuck with him . The hell with that wouldn’t even bother trying to go into a tunnel just thinking you’ll be stuck with some crazy person .
On the contrary, it is subways that are honeypots for terrorists bombs, sarin attacks and active shooters due to having such high concentrations of people stuck in the one vehicle or station platform waiting ages for trains while crowds never build up in Loop vehicles or stations with wait times less than 10 seconds.
Stop giving ideas.
What a waste of money.
But they can’t help the woman who have kids that are homeless sleeping outside but they can spend money on nonsense shit like this
They're not spending any money on this.
These places are dumpsters, lmao the west gate please people stop 🛑 luring people into ancient ruins.
This is an accident waiting to happen. Hopefully, they're not using the auto drive function in the tesla. And then there's those batteries that like to explode.
The Loop Teslas are using LFP BYD Blade batteries that can be punctured, crushed or heated to 230°C and not suffer from thermal runaway, so the chances of fire in a crash is very remote.
Was Elon Musk a fascist when he developed the loop? Heil!
Tempted to make jokes about a boring transport system
👀
Stupid build above ground subway instead
Why would they want to have to pay billions for a train that has wait times measured in minutes when they are getting the 90,000 passenger per hour 68 mile 104 station Vegas Loop being built for zero taxpayer dollars?
Or don't we have an amazing bus system if you really want to use public transit use the bus I'll even give you the app names that help make taking the bus easy enough a mentally ill toddler could figure em out
@@andrewfranklin7087because that shit is ran by a private entity that at any time can just decide your not high class enough to ride in his overpriced golf carts Tesla is for moronic chumps who like being controlled
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 the trouble is the existing bus network is too slow, mired in gridlock with wait times that are just too long.
And even the busiest BRT lines in the USA have a TOTAL daily ridership significantly less than the 32,000 of that little LVCC Loop.
“There is significant variation in daily passenger volume among U.S. BRT corridors (see Figure 5 and Appendix A). In 2019, San Bernardino’s sbX corridor averaged about 3,300 passengers per day. Busways in South Miami-Dade, and Hartford carry between 16,000 and 18,000 daily passengers. Los Angeles’s Orange Line and Pittsburgh’s MLK Jr. East Busway carry the highest number of passengers each day-22,600 and 23,600 respectively.”
@@kinglokimrvegas8687 the problem is the existing Vegas bus network is too slow, mired in gridlock and with wait times way too long. That’s why the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor’s Authority (LVCVA) put out a tender for something better and is now so happy with the loop that they are extending it out across 68 miles and 104 stations around Vegas. even the busiest BRT lines in the USA have a TOTAL daily ridership significantly less than the 32,000 of that little LVCC Loop.
An identical idea from Miami’s Metrorail to Loop to what then became the connection to AIRPORT. I lived through all stages when I lived there. The loop was linked to the Metrorail. But here the Metrorail is NOT linked to the Bus Routes. Meaning….the bus pass won’t allow access to experience the Metrorail that in turn is a link to the loop. (Need to FIX that, it’s not fair! Bus passes are already expensive. Not being able to experience everything with “Public Transportation” is a damper. If you think about it….for those visiting could be beneficial to be able to have a separate public transportation plan that can cover all 3 modes. Where as the residents….can get the most of the city they live in, not restricted to pay extra for routes that are not generally a daily thing but maybe an access to shortcut traveling via public transportation to free up congestion and/or traveling time, being able to see ALL of it rather than PART of it. 🫶😇
Why can't they build something more useful to all humans.
this is literally more useful than a subway