I’ve towed about 3000lbs with the 2.7 auto on the highway. You will not win any races but it will more than get the job done. Just press that ECT button. Great video man.
im thinking to buy a travel camper to cross usa- mexico from canada what size you think i should buy i have a 2009 4x4 2.7 4.2 toyota tacoma shift manual
@@GoProHJE The ECT button on your Toyota stands for Electronically Controlled Transmission. By pushing the ECT button on the console of your Toyota vehicle you are able to toggle the Electronically Controlled Transmission on and off. This type of transmission system allows your Toyota vehicle to shift at higher rev points
@yayeo6520 EVERYTHING! I have a 2009 2.7 liter manual rwd. I've rock scrambled, driven thru over foot deep water, waited a few thousand extra miles before changing the oil. Put over 100,000 miles on mine in the past 4 years. She's been in death valley in the 130° heat, in the north in - degree weather. Taught almost ten people how to drive her. That clutch has been seared, gears grinded like there's no tomorrow, She's WELL used. After all that...the ac compressor went out once, and She's just started to leak a bit of coolant...I think its safe to say, it's the most reliable engine and vehicle of all time.
Thanks for this. I mainly use this for hauling dirt bikes, and it revs out and stays up there. I also tried pulling my Massey GC1720 with it. No problem, other than having to listen to it...which all gas trucks are going to be like. Tows super safe even the SCUT with stuff in the bed. V6 is probably a little more power, but chassis is the same and that matters more to me. I have a big 3500 Cummins for bigger tows (10K+)....But it seems everyone who hauls a kayak needs a V6 these days :-D
@@mattclose1439 this engine is basically a 3rz with upgraded head and valve train. I don't know if the 3rz borrowed any design features from the 22re but I suspect not much.
The thing is That people always hear "4 cylinder" and they immediately put it down because they think of "Corolla engine". They don't realize that's this is actually a pretty big 4 pot and it's a sturdy one at that. Sure it won't tow 10,000 pounds. But it's all the engine that most people need
I just completed a move from SoCal to northern WI with my SR5 2.7 2wd towing roughly 2500lbs. I commented earlier, but wanted to follow up after Im done. I did regear to Nitro 4.88 FYI, had i not i would have struggled staying in 4th gear highway. At 65mph in 4th it turned 3600 right where the peak torque was, without sounding like the engine is revving too high. Even at moderate elevation, cruise control would pull this up steep hills. If it was under 90 degrees, no elevation or wind 5th gear would tow this weight but slightest incline or wind it would shift back to 4th so kept it there 90% of the trip to avoid the tranny getting hot. ECT worked wonders towing, and mpg was 12-14 depending on wind. I took the lower route thru TX to avoid steep mnts, that was a good idea. I still encountered 3 areas of very steep incline where i had to slow down to 55mph in 3rd gear for 1-2 miles. Tire PSI made a difference too, could tell it pulled easier with trailer tires at max and truck around 38-40 PSI. I love this truck after the gear change, its a plush riding little tractor with 20/24 mpg. 2WD in northern WI isnt real bad, even with snow. Cooper AT3's or any winter rated rubber with 200lbs in truck bed gets u thru 99% of daily driving in snow/ice, i had to put chains on 2x cuz i drove out on the lake in deep snow
Wow, great. Good for you! I’m sure those 4.88s help tons. I pulled about 2k pounds couple weeks ago 600 miles one way through mountains. It did mostly fine, trans was working through 4-5 a lot but it made it. Approx 14 mpg. Great little trucks, tuning needs some attention tho but sounds like u got it squared away with the gears
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I hear from the tweakers and tuners that DT or LCE headers with a cat back make + 28hp and torque, but most importantly lower the peak torque to 2800 rpm instead of 3700. I sure the hell dont want a loud or droning truck though, and doubt just the headers make a difference. My biggest gripe is how the trans shifts without ECT on. I have it on all the time, unless city driving. 6th gear is still a bit too high with 4.88 but if I went 5.29 4th gear would be at 4k rpms. I think 4.88 is perfect, and only use 6th on highway.
This is perfect I'm actually about to move from socal up to Oregon. And I'm gonna be towing around 2500 also. I dont know much about towing. How much would it be money wise to regear the truck? I have the exact same tacoma.
I've towed a decent amount of equipment in my time and I have never attempted to use cruise when hauling anything. In my personal experience cruise is not meant to be used when hauling anything. Also I have the MANual verson of the truck and it will tow just fine with me being in control of the gears.
Just took a 1200 mile trip towing approx the same weight through mountains. You’re excatly right . Manual is much better for something like this . Thanks for the comment
I re-geared my 2.7 to Nitro 4.88s, made a big difference. 5th and 6th gear are in a higher rpm highway, making it easier for the engine to pull. Hauls ass off the line now too. Feels like this is the gearing the truck should have came with. Truck still struggles on really windy highways though.
Nice video man. I own a 3rd gen double cab 2.7 and I can tell you that whether youre towing or driving unloaded the adaptive cruise control in this truck sucks ass. Even when unloaded if the truck slows down what’s so ever it will downshift to the lowest gear and floor it just to get you back to the set speed, even if it’s a 5mph difference like 60-65mph. The way it acts is completely unnecessary and unrefined. That why I NEVER use cruise control on this truck, it’s such a wasted feature.
It’s like that for me when towing . It goes haywire. Haven’t noticed it to badly on cruise when empty . Matter of fact I just took a 200 mile trip 75% was going 80mph no issues. Wanted a v6 but it cost a lot more in my area , and it’s much more complicated imo to do basic maintenance, no room to get in there and replace shit when it starts breaking.
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I agree with you 100 percent, I live in California but more inland so don't really see a lot of flat highway which probably why my truck acts that way (also a bit on the heavier side being a double cab). Also I agree with your reasoning for not going with the v6. I like the cost and simplicity of the 4 cylinder.
Man, you hit the nail on the head! I have a 2017 2.7l Access Cab Auto 4x4 and the cruise control is terrible loaded or unloaded.. I refuse to use it.. I love it none the less.. I put it in ECT and S4 and tow my 3000lb tractor and it pulls fine!
@@taywooten77 did you install a transmission cooler or the engine oil cooler? I am think about towing with my 2.7L, but wondering if the coolers are necessary.
@@benyeung9613 I have not.. I don't tow the tractor very much or very far.. I tow my lawn mower trailer pretty often though and it pulls it no problem.. I am assuming it weighs 2000-2500lb..
I have the same truck. I pull 3500lbs occasionally. I never use the cruise control - even when not towing as it is obnoxious trying to maintain speed in 3rd gear @5000 rpm. When I tow I use 4th gear (sport mode, no ECT, no cruise) and let the truck bog down and let it be. 55-60 MPH is the sweet spot for the 4 cyl when towing.
Your towing needs all depend on what you are pulling. If you’re pulling small trailers or the occasional U-Haul trailer then the Tacoma would be a perfect fit, now if you’re towing large things like construction equipment or things of that nature than you definitely need a larger truck for that
I got rid of those steel wheels for aluminum 16x8 and kept the same street tires you would not believe the difference in ride quality acceleration fuel economy. Mind you I kept the same stock size tires. I wish I did it a long time ago. Just letting you know
I agree with your points regarding the transmission and adaptive cruise control. Both could definitely use some refinement. To be fair, I've heard similar complaints from many V6 owners as well. That ECT button though is a real lifesaver when trying to pass, or bum up steep hills. Where I think the 2.7L really shines is driving around town and off-roading. Its been great for me in both situations. If you want to tow, get the V6. 160 vs. 280 HP makes a big difference. As great as it is, the Tacoma is unfortunately outclassed by other midsize trucks such as the Chevy Colorado and Ford Ranger in the towing department. Just look at the numbers.
I'd rather have the slow truck that can go a million miles rather than more power and breakdowns on products that were thrown into production in large quantities... I am an automotive tech for a living and my shop always has ford products inside, it's gotten to the point where we won't even accept 4 cylinder ecoboosts, we call them ecobooms...
I have a 6.7 liter F250 & tow over 15K but hardly ever go over 55 mph!!! The taco 🌮 will do fine if u keep w/in your limits & drive safe. You are required to be extra safe when TOWING regardless of your vehicle!
If we could only imagine for a minute 3rd world countries and what they put these trucks through and they take it! Other's would fall apart! Just look at the videos of Toyotas, Nissans & Mitsubishi's hauling stuff way over the cab height and going on crazy forest roads. These trucks are built tough! Keep in mind the sheet metal on all vehicles are thin, but the running gears and structure are solid!
Pull it! I've pulled over 8,000 lbs with my 2016 tacoma trd v6, from kremmling colorado down into denver. So I did go up and over Eisenhower (the gauntlet) no issues!
I feel like the 6 speed is too much for a 2.7. I have a 15 it still has the 4 speed and it doesn’t kick down going up hill it just hunkers down and does it.
6 speeds are great only if the computer will let you shift and hold it yourself in sequential mode. In some cars the sequential is worthless though. It hunts for another gear anyway
@@garyaanderson214 Yeh it's not a powerhouse by any standard I just bought a 2023 TRD with the V6 and 6speed auto transmission since it's the last year for the V6 still have my 2005 with the 2.7 but the V6 is a night and day difference
He was locked in 4th gear. His truck was automatically downshifting to 3rd. The power of the truck couldn't handle 4th gear going 65. Like he said in the video it CAN do it.. not recommended. Plus he has a cap so that weight at least several hundred pounds.. so really he's right on top of not over his capacity. My 4Cyl does the se thing with a cap and no load on mountain highways.. going 70 it hunts 4th and 5th allot. Awesome truck but if your towing expect allot of gear changes 🤣 asking allot from that little 4Cly
The problem is the gear ratios ... 1, 2, and 3 are perfectly fine, but once you get to 4th and 5th, the gear ratios are so widely spaced that each time it shifts, it falls out of the power band. Then the 6th gear is almost the same as 5th. At 55 mph, you get the following rpm at each gear: 2nd: 5500 3rd: 3900 4th: 2600 5th: 1800 6th: 1500 Look at those gaps between 3rd, 4th, and 5th, and tell me there's nothing wrong with how widely they're spaced. No amount of intelligent automatic shift logic will fix these garbage gear ratios. The only thing you can do with widely spaced ratios is over-rev the engine in the current gear so you might have enough power once it shifts to the next one. If the next gear doesn't have enough power, you have no choice but to hold the current gear, even if it's too low of a gear. That's why the automatic struggles, because it thinks the current gear is too low, so it shifts, but since the next gear is so much taller due to wide spacing, there's not enough power anymore. The gear spacing on this transmission after 3rd gear is just stupid. Imagine if you had a manual transmission with those ratios, you would be frustrated every time you shifted up to 4th or 5th, because those gears take away all your power. Then 6th gear isn't really helping, because it's a very close ratio where you don't need one. They should make 3rd gear taller, and 5th gear shorter, so the spacing would be closer, or just start pairing the 8 speed automatic to it these engines, which would help tremendously because the 8 speed is notorious for having close ratios.
Also, in normal mode, the transmission stubbornly won't downshift -- floor the accelerator and there's like a two-second delay -- and in power mode, it stubbornly won't upshift so it's revving along like some kid in a Honda Civic. I get it; manufacturers are under intense pressure to improve fuel efficiency while providing spirited performance but Toyota needs to reference its past. The normal/power-mode 4-speed auto in my '94 V6 Pickup shifts ideally in both modes. And the 5-speed auto in my '09 V6 4Runner shifts just as intuitively.
@@dadgarage7966 Or at least bring the manual transmission back to the 2.7, giving the driver the option to choose gearing for the conditions. It really helps to wring the most power out without fighting economy-focused trans programming.
When you are towing just put it in sport mode and leave it in 4th gear for hills and 5th for flat ground, otherwise it gear hunts, especially with cruise on.
Great comment, I was wondering why he wasn't locking it into a lower gear and not using cruise control. In most of my vehicles you take it out of overdrive when towing, I think that's what your saying?
The 4cyl is definitely struggling with that kind of weight. I've heard a lot of complaints about the automatic and didn't understand, but after watching the video, I definitely understand the complaints now. That gear hunting is atrocious. I've heard it's not really any better with the V6. People complaining about the cruise set on the interstate, it gear hunts like this on flat terrain. That shouldn't be happening. The transmission is obviously not well-sorted, especially compared to other trucks in this class. It's funny that because it wears a Toyota badge people chalk it up to "it's designed this way on purpose" rather than being honest and saying "it's not well-sorted and is terrible to drive." I have to cross the Tacoma off my list solely because of the transmission. That gear hunting would drive me absolutely bonkers. It may be a reliable truck, but I sure wouldn't want to live with that for 300k miles. The Colorado has 41hp more from a smaller 4cyl and the 6-speed transmission is much better sorted. Heck, even the smaller unibody Ford Maverick ecoboost with 8 gears is much better sorted towing 4,000 lbs.
The gear hunting in my truck over the course of 2 years and 40k miles Hal’s gotten significantly better. Cruise control while towing is pointless, otherwise it’s fine. I drive a 19 Colorado 2wd 4 cyl company truck at work and while it’s “ok”, I’d much rather have the Tacoma. The interior in the Colorado is noticeably cheaper, amd while you may think the trans is better, it’s not. It still has an issue like when you slow down then need to give it some throttle, it can’t make up its mind for what gear it wants to go in and it’s a noticeable abrupt change in gears. The radio has a mind of its own constantly turning on and off. Overall the Colorado isn’t terrible, but it’s the Tacoma for me. I just towed a jeep Cherokee on a dolly 125 miles and it was totally fine. But it’s your money and your decision, buy what will make you happy 👍🏼
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I might just stick with my 2007 Canyon. It's still relatively low miles and it's been pretty dependable. The 4-spd auto doesn't gear hunt at all regardless of hauling, towing, or empty. I should probably county my blessings, fix what needs fixing, and hope for another 100k out of it.
If your towing close to 2,000 pounds on the regular get the V6. My 4CLY hunts 4th and 5th all the time on Mountain highways going 70 (I also have a bed cap like his) but if your not towing anything or on occasion get the 4cly if you want to save some cash
Well you can atleast do some towing with it, though I wouldn’t recommend cross country with it. Even slight inclines can be a pain. 6 would do better to an extent but to be real, any real hauling should be done with a full size anyway.
I always laugh at people that worry too much about how slow it'll be when towing. I drive tractor trailers, it just doesn't get any slower but I drive 100k+ miles a year safely in one.
My man, where are your racks on your topper?? I’ve got the same exact build as you, and despite not towing yet I’m really looking forward to what she’s capable of. Good looking truck
@@Outdoors-ty8hp actually it is sport mode, my 2016 Corolla has that too and when you shift into S the paddle shifters control the upshifts and downshifts. Not like it matters with 132hp XD
If u have the 4 cylinder jet ski going to be totally fine. As the car goes , it really depends on how big and heavy the trailer is. If it’s a small one I’d say you’re fine if you have to. If you have v6 you’re fine either way
I pull a Kubota 1860 on a 16 ft trailer with brush hog with a 2005 2.7 tacoma Sr 5 lug with a 3 inch lift and 31 inch tires... She's the old 4 spd auto and does just fine... I've gotta keep my foot to the floor but tacomas don't care lol...
Hey I have a guy selling his 99 2.7 Tacoma that he fixed with a blown head gasket. He’s a mechanic with his own shop. He has it for real cheap, is it safe to buy it? He put in a brand new radiator so I’m thinking it blew from the original radiator being broken.
You need to drive the truck. And I mean drive it. Get it hot. Watch them temp sensor as your driving making sure it doesn’t start creeping high. Drive it at least 10 spirited miles. Then check the engine oil and see if there’s any water on the dipstick. If there’s water on the dipstick there’s a high probability head gasket could still be leaking.
Been really rough on my 07, right about to hit 239,000 and looks as though my head gasket finally needs replacing. I can attest to these being great designs, this thing should have blown up long ago.
You know what's funny is that the rest of the world uses these 4 cylinder Toyota *diesel* trucks and Mitsubishi towing anything from other cars to rocket launchers on the back with little problems. In America, people always want the biggest and badest
Its because theyre limited to using what they have where as we have tins of options and most people dont know how to work on vehicles where most of them can because they cant afford the costs of mechanics. I get what your saying though but its like with me. Im about to buy an 09 on thursday and im still debating because im gonna get a boat shortly after and dont want to get fucked when im hauling it around so it makes me want to save for a v6.
@@mech0p Right. I get you. I also plan to buy one. I am debating on whether to get a new or used. If I do go the used route, it would have to be in the 09-15 range. New is just a rip off and I love Toyota but its too much. I work from home anyway and dont need a new truck right now.
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Looking to get a2008 2.7 2wd for 12000 it has 95k on it and I think that’s a pretty solid deal hopefully it’ll last me a while also trying to tow a 16 ft boat or so
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I do have a 4cyl. I’m not planing to go over 3500 lbs. But for all that driving and beating the truck, would I be okay for the long haul! Thank you!
Cisco Miranda u haul does rent them, but they’re going to give you hell about your truck and may not even rent you one. They’ll claim it’s to heavy. Now, with a 2300 pound car with weight of trailer, even a small one, you’re pushing the limit already. Best I can suggest to you is get a car dolley. They weigh next to nothing. You’ll be able to tow the car that way much safer than a actual car trailer. You need to keep in mind the weight of everything Else you’re going to be carrying around i.e furniture, people , clothes , dogs, cats, birds , monkeys. Etc. Your truck can tow the Miata on a dolly just fine.
@@Outdoors-ty8hp Thanks man I'll look into renting that car dolley. We are sending our stuff on PODS. Might carry some clothes and essentials for a rest night or two and that's it.
@@PilaPlanet If you rent the dolly and put full synthetic motor oil in the engine you will be fine... you will wanna keep the rpms high which will not hurt the engine at all... I towed 2700 lbs from California to east texas "1600 miles" I have the 05 tacoma and kept it in 3rd gear the whole time at 3,000 rpm and got into 2nd gear up steep mountain passes at 5,000 rpm and made it here in 1 piece... These Tacoma's like to rev let it do it with fresh SYNTHETIC motor oil, I recommend "rotella truck 5w30 full synthetic" even over Mobil 1.. My engine had 120,000 miles on it at the time, I was very impressed...
The 4cyl is just not for towing. Payload no problem but definitely not for towing. Also why in the world would you even buy a 4 cyl? The v6 is only slightly more expensive and actually gets better gas mileage.
@@Ni-fg6je yeah if you got those ugly skinny tires, an acces cab with 2wd, no weight and only going in flat areas. Otherwise the poor engine is always struggling and revving high. The thing even struggles to keep up with traffic. So I guess if I lower my truck, get super skinny tires and drive it super slow like the 4 cyl I would get amazing gas mileage.
I’ve towed about 3000lbs with the 2.7 auto on the highway. You will not win any races but it will more than get the job done. Just press that ECT button. Great video man.
im thinking to buy a travel camper to cross usa- mexico from canada what size you think i should buy i have a 2009 4x4 2.7 4.2 toyota tacoma shift manual
@@kechomendoza buy an Ultra light camper
@@thibui335 i got a folding caravane. jayco eagle 2001 12udst
What is the ect button do?
@@GoProHJE The ECT button on your Toyota stands for Electronically Controlled Transmission. By pushing the ECT button on the console of your Toyota vehicle you are able to toggle the Electronically Controlled Transmission on and off. This type of transmission system allows your Toyota vehicle to shift at higher rev points
Let’s face it the Tacoma didn’t get its reputation from a v6 just sayin.
Toyota 4 cylinders rock! Get everything I need done with mine.
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@yayeo6520 EVERYTHING! I have a 2009 2.7 liter manual rwd. I've rock scrambled, driven thru over foot deep water, waited a few thousand extra miles before changing the oil. Put over 100,000 miles on mine in the past 4 years. She's been in death valley in the 130° heat, in the north in - degree weather. Taught almost ten people how to drive her. That clutch has been seared, gears grinded like there's no tomorrow, She's WELL used. After all that...the ac compressor went out once, and She's just started to leak a bit of coolant...I think its safe to say, it's the most reliable engine and vehicle of all time.
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Thanks for this. I mainly use this for hauling dirt bikes, and it revs out and stays up there. I also tried pulling my Massey GC1720 with it. No problem, other than having to listen to it...which all gas trucks are going to be like. Tows super safe even the SCUT with stuff in the bed. V6 is probably a little more power, but chassis is the same and that matters more to me. I have a big 3500 Cummins for bigger tows (10K+)....But it seems everyone who hauls a kayak needs a V6 these days :-D
Towed 2k lbs with 2k payload on my 2.7 6AT. Wouldn’t say it was good but it’s not broke so there’s that...
Can confirm. Towing is fine. I tow my whaler very easily. Weighs about 2500-2700 with trailer and stuff.
Are you talking about your ole lady 🐳?
@@jimmycline4778 hahahaha 😂
My Tacoma 2012 2.7l l4 pulled roughly 8,000 pounds today with lots of hills. Pretty impressed
This engine is proven reliable. Its an engine evolved from legendary 22r.
I think it has almost nothing in common with that engine. Closer to the 3rz.
@@mattclose1439 this engine is basically a 3rz with upgraded head and valve train. I don't know if the 3rz borrowed any design features from the 22re but I suspect not much.
The thing is That people always hear "4 cylinder" and they immediately put it down because they think of "Corolla engine". They don't realize that's this is actually a pretty big 4 pot and it's a sturdy one at that. Sure it won't tow 10,000 pounds. But it's all the engine that most people need
I have a 2008 Tacoma 2.7L with a manual trans, no complaints towing with it but I think the manual is the way to go. Enjoyed the video.
I just completed a move from SoCal to northern WI with my SR5 2.7 2wd towing roughly 2500lbs. I commented earlier, but wanted to follow up after Im done. I did regear to Nitro 4.88 FYI, had i not i would have struggled staying in 4th gear highway. At 65mph in 4th it turned 3600 right where the peak torque was, without sounding like the engine is revving too high. Even at moderate elevation, cruise control would pull this up steep hills. If it was under 90 degrees, no elevation or wind 5th gear would tow this weight but slightest incline or wind it would shift back to 4th so kept it there 90% of the trip to avoid the tranny getting hot. ECT worked wonders towing, and mpg was 12-14 depending on wind. I took the lower route thru TX to avoid steep mnts, that was a good idea. I still encountered 3 areas of very steep incline where i had to slow down to 55mph in 3rd gear for 1-2 miles. Tire PSI made a difference too, could tell it pulled easier with trailer tires at max and truck around 38-40 PSI. I love this truck after the gear change, its a plush riding little tractor with 20/24 mpg. 2WD in northern WI isnt real bad, even with snow. Cooper AT3's or any winter rated rubber with 200lbs in truck bed gets u thru 99% of daily driving in snow/ice, i had to put chains on 2x cuz i drove out on the lake in deep snow
Wow, great. Good for you! I’m sure those 4.88s help tons. I pulled about 2k pounds couple weeks ago 600 miles one way through mountains. It did mostly fine, trans was working through 4-5 a lot but it made it. Approx 14 mpg. Great little trucks, tuning needs some attention tho but sounds like u got it squared away with the gears
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I hear from the tweakers and tuners that DT or LCE headers with a cat back make + 28hp and torque, but most importantly lower the peak torque to 2800 rpm instead of 3700. I sure the hell dont want a loud or droning truck though, and doubt just the headers make a difference. My biggest gripe is how the trans shifts without ECT on. I have it on all the time, unless city driving. 6th gear is still a bit too high with 4.88 but if I went 5.29 4th gear would be at 4k rpms. I think 4.88 is perfect, and only use 6th on highway.
This is perfect I'm actually about to move from socal up to Oregon. And I'm gonna be towing around 2500 also. I dont know much about towing. How much would it be money wise to regear the truck? I have the exact same tacoma.
@@eddieramirez2820 2wd is about 900-1200$
I've towed a decent amount of equipment in my time and I have never attempted to use cruise when hauling anything. In my personal experience cruise is not meant to be used when hauling anything. Also I have the MANual verson of the truck and it will tow just fine with me being in control of the gears.
Just took a 1200 mile trip towing approx the same weight through mountains. You’re excatly right . Manual is much better for something like this . Thanks for the comment
@@Outdoors-ty8hp Auto or manual, it's still a wonderful truck and I wouldn't trade mine for anything.
Eric Ferrara you got a 3rd gen 4 cylinder ?
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I have a 2nd Gen Regular cab 4x4. Its my daily and my fun vehicle all in one
Manual is no longer offered in new Tacomas.
I re-geared my 2.7 to Nitro 4.88s, made a big difference. 5th and 6th gear are in a higher rpm highway, making it easier for the engine to pull. Hauls ass off the line now too. Feels like this is the gearing the truck should have came with. Truck still struggles on really windy highways though.
Tie One On do you still have stock wheels and tires I’ve thought about doing 4.88 gears I have 2.7 auto 2wd 2020
I was thinking about regearing my 2.7 to the 5.29, hoping that won’t be too short. Plan on bumping up the tire size a bit though to 265/75r16
Yeah i have stock tires, i kinda wish i went to 5.29 with stock tires cuz that would have put 6th gear at 2500 @ 70mph, instead of 2200.
Tie One On how much did you pay for gears and install I got quote of 2900 for mines I thought that was high for a 2wd
@@mariodiaz3897 got mine done for 1100, new bearings, oil and everything. 2900 is what they charge for 4wd
Nice video man. I own a 3rd gen double cab 2.7 and I can tell you that whether youre towing or driving unloaded the adaptive cruise control in this truck sucks ass. Even when unloaded if the truck slows down what’s so ever it will downshift to the lowest gear and floor it just to get you back to the set speed, even if it’s a 5mph difference like 60-65mph. The way it acts is completely unnecessary and unrefined. That why I NEVER use cruise control on this truck, it’s such a wasted feature.
It’s like that for me when towing . It goes haywire. Haven’t noticed it to badly on cruise when empty . Matter of fact I just took a 200 mile trip 75% was going 80mph no issues. Wanted a v6 but it cost a lot more in my area , and it’s much more complicated imo to do basic maintenance, no room to get in there and replace shit when it starts breaking.
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I agree with you 100 percent, I live in California but more inland so don't really see a lot of flat highway which probably why my truck acts that way (also a bit on the heavier side being a double cab). Also I agree with your reasoning for not going with the v6. I like the cost and simplicity of the 4 cylinder.
Man, you hit the nail on the head! I have a 2017 2.7l Access Cab Auto 4x4 and the cruise control is terrible loaded or unloaded.. I refuse to use it..
I love it none the less.. I put it in ECT and S4 and tow my 3000lb tractor and it pulls fine!
@@taywooten77 did you install a transmission cooler or the engine oil cooler? I am think about towing with my 2.7L, but wondering if the coolers are necessary.
@@benyeung9613 I have not.. I don't tow the tractor very much or very far.. I tow my lawn mower trailer pretty often though and it pulls it no problem.. I am assuming it weighs 2000-2500lb..
Im worried..my wife is getting fatter.She killing my pmg for my 2.7.
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Maybe reduce speed to 55mph and S4. 65mph is loading up the engine and with increased wind resistance.
I have the same truck. I pull 3500lbs occasionally. I never use the cruise control - even when not towing as it is obnoxious trying to maintain speed in 3rd gear @5000 rpm. When I tow I use 4th gear (sport mode, no ECT, no cruise) and let the truck bog down and let it be. 55-60 MPH is the sweet spot for the 4 cyl when towing.
Your towing needs all depend on what you are pulling. If you’re pulling small trailers or the occasional U-Haul trailer then the Tacoma would be a perfect fit, now if you’re towing large things like construction equipment or things of that nature than you definitely need a larger truck for that
Great looking rig
I got rid of those steel wheels for aluminum 16x8 and kept the same street tires you would not believe the difference in ride quality acceleration fuel economy. Mind you I kept the same stock size tires. I wish I did it a long time ago. Just letting you know
I agree with your points regarding the transmission and adaptive cruise control. Both could definitely use some refinement. To be fair, I've heard similar complaints from many V6 owners as well. That ECT button though is a real lifesaver when trying to pass, or bum up steep hills. Where I think the 2.7L really shines is driving around town and off-roading. Its been great for me in both situations. If you want to tow, get the V6. 160 vs. 280 HP makes a big difference. As great as it is, the Tacoma is unfortunately outclassed by other midsize trucks such as the Chevy Colorado and Ford Ranger in the towing department. Just look at the numbers.
I'd rather have the slow truck that can go a million miles rather than more power and breakdowns on products that were thrown into production in large quantities... I am an automotive tech for a living and my shop always has ford products inside, it's gotten to the point where we won't even accept 4 cylinder ecoboosts, we call them ecobooms...
I have a 6.7 liter F250 & tow over 15K but hardly ever go over 55 mph!!! The taco 🌮 will do fine if u keep w/in your limits & drive safe. You are required to be extra safe when TOWING regardless of your vehicle!
If we could only imagine for a minute 3rd world countries and what they put these trucks through and they take it! Other's would fall apart! Just look at the videos of Toyotas, Nissans & Mitsubishi's hauling stuff way over the cab height and going on crazy forest roads. These trucks are built tough! Keep in mind the sheet metal on all vehicles are thin, but the running gears and structure are solid!
Pull it! I've pulled over 8,000 lbs with my 2016 tacoma trd v6, from kremmling colorado down into denver. So I did go up and over Eisenhower (the gauntlet) no issues!
I feel like the 6 speed is too much for a 2.7. I have a 15 it still has the 4 speed and it doesn’t kick down going up hill it just hunkers down and does it.
6 speeds are great only if the computer will let you shift and hold it yourself in sequential mode. In some cars the sequential is worthless though. It hunts for another gear anyway
I agree I have a 2011 prerunner 2tr it does ok with the 4 speed no issues
I have a 2005 4x4 2.7 sr package five speed manual tows my 1300 pound pop up trailer no problem I think 3500 is the limit for the tacoma
I have 2012 2.7 4x4 manual trans I also have a 2000 2.7 4x4 manual trans.I have driven the same truck with auto.No auto for me felt underpowered
@@garyaanderson214 Yeh it's not a powerhouse by any standard I just bought a 2023 TRD with the V6 and 6speed auto transmission since it's the last year for the V6 still have my 2005 with the 2.7 but the V6 is a night and day difference
Toyota 4 bangers will allways OUTLIVE the 6 pack.
Can you get an external cooler for the transmission? That’s what I would recommend. And probably lock in 4th gear
He was locked in 4th gear. His truck was automatically downshifting to 3rd. The power of the truck couldn't handle 4th gear going 65. Like he said in the video it CAN do it.. not recommended. Plus he has a cap so that weight at least several hundred pounds.. so really he's right on top of not over his capacity. My 4Cyl does the se thing with a cap and no load on mountain highways.. going 70 it hunts 4th and 5th allot. Awesome truck but if your towing expect allot of gear changes 🤣 asking allot from that little 4Cly
Thanks for sharing. You were very informative in a good way.
I tow a 5500lb pressure washer trailer with my 4 cylinder. S4, ECT power, 3000rpm/60mph maximum. Usually at least 20miles one way for my jobs.
The problem is the gear ratios ... 1, 2, and 3 are perfectly fine, but once you get to 4th and 5th, the gear ratios are so widely spaced that each time it shifts, it falls out of the power band. Then the 6th gear is almost the same as 5th.
At 55 mph, you get the following rpm at each gear:
2nd: 5500
3rd: 3900
4th: 2600
5th: 1800
6th: 1500
Look at those gaps between 3rd, 4th, and 5th, and tell me there's nothing wrong with how widely they're spaced.
No amount of intelligent automatic shift logic will fix these garbage gear ratios. The only thing you can do with widely spaced ratios is over-rev the engine in the current gear so you might have enough power once it shifts to the next one. If the next gear doesn't have enough power, you have no choice but to hold the current gear, even if it's too low of a gear. That's why the automatic struggles, because it thinks the current gear is too low, so it shifts, but since the next gear is so much taller due to wide spacing, there's not enough power anymore. The gear spacing on this transmission after 3rd gear is just stupid. Imagine if you had a manual transmission with those ratios, you would be frustrated every time you shifted up to 4th or 5th, because those gears take away all your power. Then 6th gear isn't really helping, because it's a very close ratio where you don't need one. They should make 3rd gear taller, and 5th gear shorter, so the spacing would be closer, or just start pairing the 8 speed automatic to it these engines, which would help tremendously because the 8 speed is notorious for having close ratios.
Also, in normal mode, the transmission stubbornly won't downshift -- floor the accelerator and there's like a two-second delay -- and in power mode, it stubbornly won't upshift so it's revving along like some kid in a Honda Civic. I get it; manufacturers are under intense pressure to improve fuel efficiency while providing spirited performance but Toyota needs to reference its past. The normal/power-mode 4-speed auto in my '94 V6 Pickup shifts ideally in both modes. And the 5-speed auto in my '09 V6 4Runner shifts just as intuitively.
@@dadgarage7966 Or at least bring the manual transmission back to the 2.7, giving the driver the option to choose gearing for the conditions. It really helps to wring the most power out without fighting economy-focused trans programming.
When you are towing just put it in sport mode and leave it in 4th gear for hills and 5th for flat ground, otherwise it gear hunts, especially with cruise on.
Great comment, I was wondering why he wasn't locking it into a lower gear and not using cruise control. In most of my vehicles you take it out of overdrive when towing, I think that's what your saying?
@@jeffhayden2737 yeah basically but you can shift it manually in sport mode if you need
@@markmcginnis1759 cool, thanks
If you really want it to tow better are a Centrical supercharger for her the 2.7 motor really loves a little boost
The 4cyl is definitely struggling with that kind of weight. I've heard a lot of complaints about the automatic and didn't understand, but after watching the video, I definitely understand the complaints now. That gear hunting is atrocious. I've heard it's not really any better with the V6. People complaining about the cruise set on the interstate, it gear hunts like this on flat terrain. That shouldn't be happening. The transmission is obviously not well-sorted, especially compared to other trucks in this class. It's funny that because it wears a Toyota badge people chalk it up to "it's designed this way on purpose" rather than being honest and saying "it's not well-sorted and is terrible to drive." I have to cross the Tacoma off my list solely because of the transmission. That gear hunting would drive me absolutely bonkers. It may be a reliable truck, but I sure wouldn't want to live with that for 300k miles. The Colorado has 41hp more from a smaller 4cyl and the 6-speed transmission is much better sorted. Heck, even the smaller unibody Ford Maverick ecoboost with 8 gears is much better sorted towing 4,000 lbs.
The gear hunting in my truck over the course of 2 years and 40k miles Hal’s gotten significantly better. Cruise control while towing is pointless, otherwise it’s fine. I drive a 19 Colorado 2wd 4 cyl company truck at work and while it’s “ok”, I’d much rather have the Tacoma. The interior in the Colorado is noticeably cheaper, amd while you may think the trans is better, it’s not. It still has an issue like when you slow down then need to give it some throttle, it can’t make up its mind for what gear it wants to go in and it’s a noticeable abrupt change in gears. The radio has a mind of its own constantly turning on and off. Overall the Colorado isn’t terrible, but it’s the Tacoma for me. I just towed a jeep Cherokee on a dolly 125 miles and it was totally fine. But it’s your money and your decision, buy what will make you happy 👍🏼
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I might just stick with my 2007 Canyon. It's still relatively low miles and it's been pretty dependable. The 4-spd auto doesn't gear hunt at all regardless of hauling, towing, or empty. I should probably county my blessings, fix what needs fixing, and hope for another 100k out of it.
@@palebeachbum ain’t nothing wrong with that
Bro, appreciate the video really! Trying to make the decision of getting a 2.7L Tacoma or a 3.5L Tacoma
If your towing close to 2,000 pounds on the regular get the V6. My 4CLY hunts 4th and 5th all the time on Mountain highways going 70 (I also have a bed cap like his) but if your not towing anything or on occasion get the 4cly if you want to save some cash
I have a 2016 Chevy Colorado extended cab 2.8 diesel.... i use it as a work truck and it gets 40mpgs on the highway and tows almost 8 grand
I own a 2017 Colorado 2.5L automatic I’m planning on towing a a Ford Focus around 2900lbs is it to much for the truck it’s 360mi trip
Well you can atleast do some towing with it, though I wouldn’t recommend cross country with it. Even slight inclines can be a pain. 6 would do better to an extent but to be real, any real hauling should be done with a full size anyway.
Does it do a full Lockup in 4th or does it have to be in fifth for a lockup torque converter?
Can you send me the link for the curt trailer hitch that you bought?
I always laugh at people that worry too much about how slow it'll be when towing. I drive tractor trailers, it just doesn't get any slower but I drive 100k+ miles a year safely in one.
My man, where are your racks on your topper??
I’ve got the same exact build as you, and despite not towing yet I’m really looking forward to what she’s capable of.
Good looking truck
I thought where it says S with the plus and minus was like a stick shift mode and whatever number you select is the highest gear it will go in?
You’re excatly right . I just call it sport mode.
1776 Outdoors Oh ok thanks man I just wanted to make sure!
@@Outdoors-ty8hp actually it is sport mode, my 2016 Corolla has that too and when you shift into S the paddle shifters control the upshifts and downshifts. Not like it matters with 132hp XD
How would it handle being an extended 4 door with 4 people and 1200 lb bed slide in camper?
I too would love to know this
Man that orange truck at 5.30 is tailgating you
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not, but that’s what I’m towing...
@@Outdoors-ty8hp sorry bro I guess it was a terrible joke lol 😆
alex garcia lmao. I got u. It’s funny now that I know it’s a joke
Verry informative greatly appreciated. Could I tow a stripped car on a trailer?
Or a jet ski to a near by lake? Would that okay?
If u have the 4 cylinder jet ski going to be totally fine. As the car goes , it really depends on how big and heavy the trailer is. If it’s a small one I’d say you’re fine if you have to. If you have v6 you’re fine either way
The back end of the truck isn’t even sagging lol. I’ve been going back and forth 4 or 6.
What do you want out of the truck? Do you want to save money upfront?
I pull a Kubota 1860 on a 16 ft trailer with brush hog with a 2005 2.7 tacoma Sr 5 lug with a 3 inch lift and 31 inch tires... She's the old 4 spd auto and does just fine... I've gotta keep my foot to the floor but tacomas don't care lol...
Hey I have a guy selling his 99 2.7 Tacoma that he fixed with a blown head gasket. He’s a mechanic with his own shop. He has it for real cheap, is it safe to buy it?
He put in a brand new radiator so I’m thinking it blew from the original radiator being broken.
You need to drive the truck. And I mean drive it. Get it hot. Watch them temp sensor as your driving making sure it doesn’t start creeping high. Drive it at least 10 spirited miles. Then check the engine oil and see if there’s any water on the dipstick. If there’s water on the dipstick there’s a high probability head gasket could still be leaking.
1776 Outdoors I ended up buying it, so far it’s good.
Been really rough on my 07, right about to hit 239,000 and looks as though my head gasket finally needs replacing. I can attest to these being great designs, this thing should have blown up long ago.
You know what's funny is that the rest of the world uses these 4 cylinder Toyota *diesel* trucks and Mitsubishi towing anything from other cars to rocket launchers on the back with little problems. In America, people always want the biggest and badest
Its because theyre limited to using what they have where as we have tins of options and most people dont know how to work on vehicles where most of them can because they cant afford the costs of mechanics. I get what your saying though but its like with me. Im about to buy an 09 on thursday and im still debating because im gonna get a boat shortly after and dont want to get fucked when im hauling it around so it makes me want to save for a v6.
@@mech0p Right. I get you. I also plan to buy one. I am debating on whether to get a new or used. If I do go the used route, it would have to be in the 09-15 range. New is just a rip off and I love Toyota but its too much. I work from home anyway and dont need a new truck right now.
Did you get a specific kit to wire your hitch for the tow? I also own a 2.7l Tacoma I love it. But Im missing the wiring for towing
Hey , just saw this. Really sorry about the late response. If you haven’t found it yet or are still interested, it’s this.
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I installed a better plug and play Tekonsha 7 pin harness #22117, buy the oem 4/7 pin connector that pops into bumper use in place of the single 7 pin plug in kit.
Don’t use the ect and sport mode at the same time. Use ect in D.
Does anyone know if a 2nd gen Tacoma hitch setup will go on a 3rd gen Tacoma??
Aerodynamics was as much drag as the weight. It would be plenty fine with 3000lbs of firewood or stack of lumber.
Looking to get a2008 2.7 2wd for 12000 it has 95k on it and I think that’s a pretty solid deal hopefully it’ll last me a while also trying to tow a 16 ft boat or so
Sounds like a pretty solid deal if it’s clean. Good luck, they’re great trucks.
What’s your input on towing a travel trailer/camper cross country?
What’s the size and weight of the trailer? What’s the weight of everything extra you’d be carrying? I.e people , gear, etc. do u have a 4 cyl?
@@Outdoors-ty8hp I do have a 4cyl. I’m not planing to go over 3500 lbs. But for all that driving and beating the truck, would I be okay for the long haul! Thank you!
From someone with over 2 million miles towing it’s not a race. I’d bet this tacoma with that load is faster to 60 than 90% of semi trucks.
Do you guys think I can tow a 1997 Miata (2,300lbs) from Florida to Texas? Moving there this June and don't really want to sell it.
Need info on your truck and size and weight of trailer
@@Outdoors-ty8hp My truck is a 2019 SR I4 4x2 Stock. Plan to just rent a trailer. I believe uhaul rents them right?
Cisco Miranda u haul does rent them, but they’re going to give you hell about your truck and may not even rent you one. They’ll claim it’s to heavy. Now, with a 2300 pound car with weight of trailer, even a small one, you’re pushing the limit already. Best I can suggest to you is get a car dolley. They weigh next to nothing. You’ll be able to tow the car that way much safer than a actual car trailer. You need to keep in mind the weight of everything Else you’re going to be carrying around i.e furniture, people , clothes , dogs, cats, birds , monkeys. Etc.
Your truck can tow the Miata on a dolly just fine.
@@Outdoors-ty8hp Thanks man I'll look into renting that car dolley. We are sending our stuff on PODS. Might carry some clothes and essentials for a rest night or two and that's it.
@@PilaPlanet If you rent the dolly and put full synthetic motor oil in the engine you will be fine... you will wanna keep the rpms high which will not hurt the engine at all... I towed 2700 lbs from California to east texas "1600 miles" I have the 05 tacoma and kept it in 3rd gear the whole time at 3,000 rpm and got into 2nd gear up steep mountain passes at 5,000 rpm and made it here in 1 piece... These Tacoma's like to rev let it do it with fresh SYNTHETIC motor oil, I recommend "rotella truck 5w30 full synthetic" even over Mobil 1.. My engine had 120,000 miles on it at the time, I was very impressed...
Nice video
How much does the utv weigh?
The 2.7 Toyota engines are reliable than the v6
toyota fortuner has this same engine
2.7L I4 4SPEED AUTO
I have the same truck and I was worried about towing with it but I see I can tow some
I just did a 1200 mile round trip towing approx 2000 pounds. You’ll be good to go if you keep the weight down to a reasonable limit
@@Outdoors-ty8hp i thought 3500 was the two for thosed 2009 4x4 tacoma 2.7
they need regeared 5.29 and their fine
The 4cyl is just not for towing. Payload no problem but definitely not for towing. Also why in the world would you even buy a 4 cyl? The v6 is only slightly more expensive and actually gets better gas mileage.
are you dumb?? the 4cyl is made for towing... its a beast of a motor.... they use it in just about every other country towing alot...
slightly more??? 3500 is slightly more to you?? ummm and na the 4cyl can tow everything i own just fine and more..... get over yourself loser
@@skimask5049 bro. You're the looser. You bought a 4 cyl for towing, that's just pathetic.
@@skimask5049 a beast of a motor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Ni-fg6je yeah if you got those ugly skinny tires, an acces cab with 2wd, no weight and only going in flat areas. Otherwise the poor engine is always struggling and revving high. The thing even struggles to keep up with traffic. So I guess if I lower my truck, get super skinny tires and drive it super slow like the 4 cyl I would get amazing gas mileage.
Crank up your jack.
TLDR: get the 3.5
No thanks, some of us don’t want the mommy van engine in our trucks lmao
That's not heavy towing
Cool, glad you enjoyed it. Please share a video of your 4 cylinder Tacoma for comparison to show me how it’s done . Thanks
Will do, lol
If I had anything heavy enough.
For a 4 banger midsize, this is a heavy enough load to test. Not built to haul a car or truck across the country.
Bone Stock Garage you sir , are precisely right .