I picked this up off facebook and it doesn't work did I get ripped off or did I score a gem?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2023
- This is a rare Sony Video 8 home deck with the optional PCM audio processor. It will be a great piece if I can get it to work.
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Don't throw away the manuals! Just keep'em so if you sell the unit one day maybe some French person will really appreciate it?
Could be too late, maybe already gone to garbage/recycling.
A lot of Canadians understand French.
I understand a little. Had to take it 1 year in high school but that was 45 years ago.
@@12voltvids Google translate on your phone?
@@bobsoft too much trouble.
Do you know what could be the problem if the VTR shuts down immediately when you go into PLAY or REC? I've got an 8mm camcorder that is doing that and it probably uses the same ICs as this 8mm VCR. Fast forward and fast rewind work perfect. I think the drum is spinning up to speed but maybe the PG and FG signals from the head drum aren't being picked up?
94.7 KMET was my favorite FM rock radio station in the 80s. They went off the air and became the "The Wave". Coming from a heavy rock mentality at the time, I did not like the station- but as time went by, I later appreciated it (especially since my wife - then girlfriend- loved it). I do remember that when they first aired, there were little to no commercials.
In the early 90's I considered switching my home VCR from VHS to Video8 (or maybe it was Hi-8 by then). I did eventually buy a smaller Video 8 VCR without the tuner/timer (Sony EV-C45?) and stuck with VHS/S-VHS for my main VCR.
my v-100 camera has the same cassette deck and the head works perfectly, I have now also ordered the V-200 camera that was released in 1988, do you know if it has bad capacitors?😅
I’ve never knew there were small video tape machines like this. I’m use to seeing beta tapes or VHS tapes
Yeah! My brother in law had a Sony video 8 camcorder. The viewing screen was in black and white, but when you viewed the tape it was in color.
There were smaller 8mm and hi8 decks then this. I have one, the EVC3. The hi8 was EVC100, and I fixed a few of those lately.
@@12voltvids I have a hi 8 vcr i imported from Japan cause I wanted the slimness it always works great to
There were even smaller decks than this. MiniDV for one HDV, and if you really want small, Micro MV but that was a camera only, no stand alone decks.
@@12voltvids i have an hdv one to but never used micro mv
Thanks I have plenty of spare heads to try on my S500 but will try the finger nail first
Oh my god! KTWV, what a distant memory! They were playing instrumental and jazz music even into the 2000s, although I'm not sure if they still do nowadays. Reminds me of my California trip in 2007.
For PCM recording, the French manual says that the SP speed is "recommended".
I always wanted one of those! Super cool!
It's a collector piece for sure.
Absolutely a gem. I've been searching for one for my editing rig.
I think i've got a freeze frame head in a camcorder that's otherwise pretty bad off. I've got a pretty good backlog of random parts.
Yes this ones a keeper as the U loading system was pretty cool on this model.
Hello , would you be able to service my Nakamichi dragon , it was running and then suddenly only the right flywheel is spinning , on occasion the left flywheel will run for 2 mins. then it will stop.
@1:34 - 'we'll throw those french manuals away' 😂
My Sony EV-DT1 Trinitron Video 8 TV recorder has the same tape mech except for the manual tape inserting. Main issue was the 2 x rubber rollers that pulled the tape cassette in and pushed it out when ejecting. I cleaned them up with rubber restorer and it works great.
The rubber rollers on those front loaders were problematic. This one full mechanical and manual. No rollers to wear out.
A vintage -forest- feast of ribbon cables. On equipment of that age the electrolytic capacitors have to be a bit suspect for starters.
You get the most interesting stuff!
I can just see Dave in the car with that extension cord draped through the window recording that FM station.....very funny story! :)
That was cool. Thanks Dave.
The blue connector is what we where used in europ called scart it is for audio and video
Almost - the blue connector has two angled ends, SCART just had one
33:15 - I wonder on the specs of the PCM part, like bitrate, sampling rate, number of bytes per track etc. My math tells me that you could only squeeze in around ~2 kbyte into a single track, and assuming 16bit stereo and no compression, you could only get around ~30 kHz sampling rate out of it. But my math may be completely wrong.
I did cover that. It's 32khz sample 8 bit companded audio. That was the standard for all 8mm and hi8 pcm sound. Frequency response 20-15 khz 80db dynamic range.
What was the max time on a tape on a 8mm & Super 8? I have an old 8mm mini camera from around 1992 & not sure if its Super 8 or regular as it not say on it. I have no 8mm tapes laying around to use it. Not sure if VHS or Beta or 8mm has the best quality? I remember they not made many movies on 8mm. -Cheers!
8mm had a slight better picture then beta and beta was better than VHS. Higher chroma bandwidth. VHS was 629khz beta (and 3/4") 688 khz and 8mm 729khz. Higher frequency means more bandwidth.
Max time for 8mm was 6 hours in lp speed using a p6-180 tape. That tape was 3 hours at so speed. Only maxell made em. I have a bunch that have never been opened.
@@12voltvids So Super 8 was the PCM format or HiFi like VHS & Beta? Its been long time & like the video's you post.
@@drsysop hi8 was the higher resolution video format.
All 8mm had PCM as an option.
All 8mm video used afm HiFi sound. It was mono. They added stereo afm sound to some cameras. This reduced the picture quality slightly as that second FM carrier had to go somewhere. The PCM track was a reserved area of the tape not used for video so it was editable and dubbable after the fact and it is a full digital audio track. Some home decks had it, this one had it as an optional add on and all the professional gear had it standard.
@@12voltvids 1992 i assume hi8 wasn't out yet camera here not say. Was hi8 compatible to regular players & cameras & backwards compatible?
@@drsysop hi8 was like super VHS. You could play a regular video 8 tape on a hi8 deck and hi8 deck could record video 8 on video 8 tape. Hi8 recordings won't play on video 8 decks.
Cool toy, i have the same with the pcm module 😊
Wow, it looks like U-load "Charly" Deck with opposite side loading :)
Hi, my name is Xavier and I have a Sony ccd-trv57. I got it for free from my grandfather. I am an aspiring filmmaker and I had been using it to make my portfolio. So the tape that was left in there for years got stuck and won’t come out. I attempted to remove it myself carefully but still couldn’t get it to eject. I don’t really have the tools necessary to fix it. Would you be able to help me out, I’m willing to pay for shipping or anything else.
It's probably suffering from leaking capacitors and those are generally uneconomical to repair
Thank you
Tapes and receding yes I do remember that was a blast
Sony 8MM Loading U The best its Working because your work is perfectly well done
2 Years ago i serviced my EVS 700. It play Tapes fine. The only issue was the Switches.I replaced all Switches on the Front. Problem on some old Sony Video8 Tapes is that they clogged the Head very quickly ( Maxell Tapes are not so problematic )
I did a video on those garbage Sony tapes.
I saw all your Videos since you are on youtube from beginning to end, but I can´t remember them all 😄 Keep on Dave. 👍
@@radiologe9271 I can't remember them either. I am sure there are few I should pull.
Those look like new. If even you put it on a shelf to look at it, that’s a real score.
And heavy as hell. Lots of steel in these units.
The pcm audio recorded on my EV-S700 sounds excellent
It does. It is 32khz sample rate 8 bit. They use 2x companding to get the dynamic range up and the frequency response is 20 to 15khz flat response.
What about replacing those old possibly leaking electrolytic capacitors?
This was before the capacitor plague.
@@12voltvids And all the caps in this unit are though hole right?
@@KylesDigitalLab sure are
@@12voltvids Good. I'm trying to get my 1985 Canon VM-E1 working. It uses the exact same U-load mechanism and even some of the exact same Sony ICs as the CCD-V110 so I should be able to get it working. I think it's a drum servo problem causing it to shutdown
Cool pcm converter
Gotta love Facebook market place. The zone for selling junk that doesn't work! And LOL, I put "pleurage et scintillement" in to Google translate and it came back as "Weep and Flutter", so, yeah, I assume it means "wow and flutter". So, the up-short of this video is, the heads were rooted.
Yes and I knew it wasn't working.
It was advertised as ff and rewind work, play is just snow. So i was expecting clogged heads or a "rooted" preamp. I wasn't expecting busted heads. This smells of a failed qtip head cleaning attempt. Those heads are hard and not that easy to snap. They deal with metal tape, they are very hard compared to VHS and betamax heads which can break if a qtip cones near them
I remember having a friend who had one of these New !
They probably paid a kings ransom for it too.
@@12voltvids He was a huge Sony Fan tons of sony gear !
That thing literally looks like new! Not a scratch on it.
If only it was hi8.
That blue connector it's a "scart" connector
It's non-standard though, it has angled off one corner that is normally square.
Presumably it was cheaper to modify an existing connector, for a different purpose.
@@DoubleMonoLR Well spotted!
It's NOT a SCART connector. It's a custom connector. Just so happens that the connector is similar sized.
Let's hear the tapes you were talking about in the end where the police eventually showed up. Upload to RUclips. Oh wait. You would probably get a copyright. UGH. This was a great video - very cool fix and nice machine.
Copyright for sure. I could play the voice tracks.
Yeah I am glad you were able to get it working. At least the person didn't lie to you? He said it wasn't working?.
I knew it wasn't working but I didn't think it would be headless.
I have the EV-S500 and it won’t maintain tracking
Plays fine then goes out of tracking then ok
I cleaned the heads with paper and iso
I also have a like new EV-S700 and works perfect like new
8mm heads don't clean with ISO. Won't dissolve metal. Must use cleaning tape or fingernail.
I picked up one of those for FREE off Facebook Marketplace. It worked great, I guess the owner didn't have a use for it. Sold it for $300 on eBay (took the first offer).
That's an oddity.
Time to learn some french. Time to visit us in Quebec ;)
I did take it in jr high school as it was a mandatory course but i admit since then I have forgotten most. I so know there is a difference on Canadian French than the real french but they are both french to me. I had a guy that did my French translations and dubbing for me for a few video I did back in the day where they company was selling product on Quebec so to satisfy the language laws the demo videos had to be produced in both English and French. For all i know the guy could have been saying don't buy this it's a piece of crap.
@@12voltvids We could argue what "real french" is, considering Québec speaks an older form of french we've kept alive while under British occupation and cut off from France during their revolution. 😉😁 But that's a whole other debate lol
I totally get what you mean... I learned Spanish in high school but haven't used it since and lost most of it.
Interesting story on the whole dubbing thing. It would be funny if the guy was saying crap. But it's easy to tell if the product didn't sell at all over here 😅.
That reminds me of all the badly translated/dubbed commercials we used to get in the 80s and 90s. Thankfully they are pretty rare the bad ones these days.
@@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 I can't recall exactly what it was but it was a product that was being sold across the country on the shopping channel and came with a demo DVD that showed how to set it up, use and clean. If i remember it was some type of carpet or floor cleaning machine. Anyway they wanted the demo in English and French so I hired a local voice over guy that translates and read the copy in French. He was an on air news but from radio Canada, CBC french service so he did know how to speak French fluently. I think the French version sounded better than the English which was voiceover by the client himself because he didn't want to pay to have my normal guy do it.
@@12voltvids Oh, on DVD that makes it a lot more recent, probably in this millennium.
Funny that it probably made the french version better 😅.
I'm sure there's a few people out there who still have that DVD. Who knows, maybe it'll get preserved one day on the Internet archive's servers or something. That DVD will certainly outlast the product it came with.
just a question is physical media on its last legs and what's the future , i listen a lot to these collectors and the say that physical media is making a comeback so does that mean they will be teaching more courses on electronics ???????????????
This stuff is not coming back.
I think blue conector is european scart
No. It's a PCM connector. Scart is a different shape.
As soon as you opened the cover my jaw dropped! The lack of plastic was overwhelming. Beautiful and unreproducable today
She's a beauty.
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