You can find some further musings of mine on this exact topic with a recent article on my Patreon titled: "How the 16 Types Can Become More Powerful". Here's the link: www.patreon.com/lovewho ~ Nathan
@@fovarberma752 I find "The 48 Laws of Power" quite intense and challenging-I have had a hard time finishing the book. However, I don’t believe the author is a psychopath; rather, I think he has a deep understanding of how the dark triad traits can influence relationships.
A story about rule 1: My dad worked at a bank. I will drop the details but my dad was doing so well at his job that he was climbing the ladder at lightning speed. His boss felt so threatened that he decided to relocate him to a different branch and this is when things went down hill. My dad then always reminded me to do well at my job but never exceed the higher ups expectations.
It's such a tricky balancing act. In an ideal world, workplaces would be entirely meritocratic. That's rarely the case though. It's always important to be aware of the underlying game that's being played and not lose sight of that ~ Nathan
I (ISTP) had a manager (ESTJ) who said, soon after my hire, "I can't read you. I don't know what you're thinking." I guess she thought my silence was some kind of power play? No. I told her that she doesn't have to read me, just ask what I'm thinking (I'll never volunteer it). I will always answer bluntly and plainly, no embellishments, no lies. We got along very very well. I still miss her. I don't know how to seek power, except over myself. I think that's all I really need though. Anything else sounds like an exercise in futility.
I have noticed that ISTPs are a type who seek personal power (i.e. power over themselves) to a huge degree yet rarely power over others. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but I would always be careful to avoid being too isolated or disconnected from networks of people. Extreme self-reliance is great as a default, but there will always come a point where you need other people. During such times, it's important that they good people who have your best interests at heart, or at the very least benefit in a transactional way from you ~ Nathan
Your explanation of high FE is EXCELLENT. I finally understand my personal struggles with what feels like an inability to be direct…. “They prefer to wrap things up in a palatable package when possible” Thank you Love Who
I have tried to read the 48 laws of power and I hated so much most of them that I couldn't read it anymore. I will act according to my moral principles and if the reality doesn't go my way then so be it. Trying my best to be a good person has always been more important than anything else, that's the only thing that I'll keep with me on the other side.
You're supposed to read them so you can know the moves of your "enemies" and ensure success of your endeavours (like being a "good person"). Because a proper good person is sure to make enemies, probably the most.
INTP, rule 21 comes with age. you cant teach youth humility, when they just learned pride. Rule 3, we do really be like Moriarty, we have no intentions and go with the flow; truth, knowledge... let the chips fall where they may. Rule 20, yeah idk about this one. Workplaces value competency, obviously Greene means people, but this rule really needs to be elaborated on. And Greene does elaborate on this a little bit in his "Laws of Human Nature", it's not dark psychology, its more like gray psychology.
I mean I had the opposite journey, needing to learn a bit of pride. The type may lean that way, but most of that I imagine comes down to personal learnings and how one was raised (and what was taken from that).
@@yuiitodoro7791 it's okay, some points are 'obvious' but aren't really intuitive, so it's nice to be shown something that makes sense. I think this should've been a book rather than a booklet, I get the need to keep it brief and engaging, but some of the points the book bring up are too vague and lack implementation examples that connect it further to reality
@@DeChatill0n what points do u find obvious? Tbh I find the book really bad , with opinions and advices that would not help maintain any relationship... but I am very curious why ppl find it good
This is actually such a good idea, and you chose perfectly for ESTP at first i thought wheres the boldness missing for ESTP but giving it to ESFP was the correct move, it's why people often confuse the two, ESTPs are more methodical than ESFPs
I love the ESTJ and ISTJ ones. These people are champions in long term total control and power. Nobody can defeat their consistency in their persuit for worldy powers. The INTJs and ENTJs achieve great power in short bursts but often mightier, but always fail to preserve it because their persuit in life while often assumed and seen as relentless persuit for power in the eyes of the people, it is actually purpose, destiny is what they are truly looking for, not power itself, unlike the ISTJs and ESTJs, ultimate power and monopoly is their purpose in this life. The xNTJs hold for power is firm but not everlasting/short term, they are more fond of purpose meaning and destinty rather than absolute raw power domination monopoly. While the xSTJs hold for power is forever, they will even face the Gods themselves if they dare threathen their generational reign. The society we live in today, is a society and reality forged by xSTJs, we are able to have choices and live and indulge in our fantasy delusional rainbow hapoy go lucky lives because of their preserverance and tenacity in their hold of power and life, they lose respect to anyone who dares disrespect life after all humanity has been through to preserve life, then there's these suicidal modern kids😂 Epic vid! Thanks for anyone reading, the puzzle has always been in my mind, this video helped me solved it
xNTJs be like "So what if you hold absolute power? What is the meaning or purpose of it?" xSTJs be like "Fuck your childish destiny meaning purpose bullshit, my purpose for power is life itself, my purpose is my people and children are starving and dying because of my incompetence and lenience for my enemy." xNTJs: "My" people, "their" people, all the tribal humanity hierarchy games, I don't see the difference between "my ally" or "my enemy." xSTJs: Again, I don't care about your childish phylosophies, all that matters is my children and people are dying under my watch. If I'm going to fight, I will choose to fight for my people instead of yours. xNTJs: Again with the "mine," "yours," human games... xSTJs: Do me and yourself a favor, go hang yourself. Wars you start for fun and glory while my people suffer... You are EVIL manifest. xNTJs: Oh no here comes the duality human/monkey mindsets of good/evil, black/white, virtuous, righteousness bullshit 😂 xSTJs: KILL THEM ALL!!! MY CHILDREN WILL NEVER SUFFER AGAIN BECAUSE OF YOU xNTJs: **died** Who "wins" in the end... ? Both winners, just in different game/definition of it
@@realSimoneCherie Not quite.. But they are often seen as one. Depending on the situation, I'd say NJs are more of a "villain" than SJs but it is arguable.. Since SJs fight for their own tribe against the rest of the world while NJs fight for no one/everyone because they don't view things in tribal perspective, they think theres no enemy, only their own glory/destiny even by stepping on or "backstabbing" their own tribe/people to further their ambitions, but this cannot be seen as evil tho everyone will sht on them for this particular behaviour/tendency, they simply don't think in terms of "my people," "your people," aka tribal ways, instead they think like people are just people, not mine or yours, which heavily unlike how the SJs think, also, NPs are extremely tribal and "selfish," unlike the SJs who are tribal but very justice oriented while NPs give zero regard on that sense.. So yeah just because someone is an NP doesn't make them less tribal than SJs, in fact NPs are more tribal, they're similar to each other. While NJs are more similar to SPs than the NPs... It's paradoxical but very interesting nuances in these specific types. Thanks for reading and commenting
That outfit change halfway through made me jump! Really enjoyed listening to your words this time, I may need to revisit this again for.... research purposes 🧐The entire video (especially the way you applied this topic to personality types) is a work of art 🙌
I am also ENFP and recently made a revolutionary proposal at my workplace, and nobody was ready for it. Symbolism and ceremony are my strong suits. I realised the affect my proposal must have had an it gave me some great perspective.
This is really good even if you know nothing about personality _or_ Robert Greene. It’s almost like a quick and dirty little cliffsnotes of the book. Well done! I bet this took _a lot_ of work, it’s a fantastic video.
Yeah outshining the master i can definitely relate to. Mostly just trying to outshine yourself but unintentionally making enemies in the process. Nice work Nathan. 👌🏽
Glad to see a new video and that he is doing well. Very interesting concept and extremely valid for each. Also the timing, Rule 11 is what my therapist kept pointing out about me in the last session. But allow me to add this is a trap if it's taken as given and if you lose someone because they now found someone else to rely on, you are left feeling used... Number 5 has helped me a lot at work, especially in theatre-cinema industry. Having a good name as a worker in both leading and assisting positions can offer more opportunities and better environment in MANY ways. As for n12, can't relate, I am personally too honest...even bluntly honest often. I always find something good to say but only if it's true. Si helps spotting the details that might give you an opening for a nice word and Fe helps you understand what the other person values, which compliment will matter for them and how it can be expressed the best. For example, I wanted to compliment my partner, I always pointed out her best traits, left out her imperfections and expressed my compliments in an elegant way she wouldn't feel sexualised, but admired instead.
That's a good point regarding honesty. You can always find something good and true to say. It's just a question of what you choose to focus on in any given moment ~ Nathan
funny coincidence (a bit), I have 3 mini posters on my wall (2 really well and 1 struggle): 1 Knowing nothing like a boss 2 I have part of a plan 3 Quantum Physics
Nathan, this video you made is an absolute masterpiece! So we can type us through our often used strategies and failures + learning something about the 48 laws and how they are being used by other types. SPLENDID☆☆☆
How I wish I were the sort of person described here... It would be awesome to be that. Perhaps it comes across as such in some scenarios, but it honestly baffles me when it does because I mostly have an interpretation of who I am that comes from the inside out and not outside in. In that sense, the inner process is quite chaotic, confusing, filled with doubts, questions, difficulty accepting things as they are, needing a lot of time to adapt, not being able and comfortable asking for help nor being strict with setting limits and boundaries even when needed, not voicing concerns cause you are aware of your strengths but also shortcomings and weaknesses so even if you do not take things personally and can rationalize them, there is always a level of hurt left to fester on the inside and you know you need to do a lot of inner digging and surgical procedure away from the crowd, preferring exploration to following set paths only to realize that you are left alone in the woods and need to learn to depend solely on yourself and work on issues (both real and created by the mind) alone. From experience, I know that people (once they really get to know you) do see you as capable of leading because you do so from a place of respect of differences and freedom to explore, make mistakes and treat life as an experiment. But until that happens, bumping into walls, stumbling and falling is needed. This is not pleasant. Because in some cases you take it as a confirmation to a message you have failed to receive as a kid. And a lot of people who share my personality type have the 'not good enough' as an internalized message we work to "repair". But instead of "perfecting" the message and changing messengers , we cut pieces of ourselves because we see and accept the fault within.
Hi. Glad to see that you're still alive and well. If I may ask, could you please finish your 16 Personalities as leaders series and your 12 rules for life series and what all of the 16 Personalities think of each other?
Which law was "never be the odd man out"? Im an INFP and I outshine the master and i tend to be the odd man out. Sad to see that its happened to me where i stood with my beliefs and got discarded. I'd do it again and again.
Welcome back Nathan. Of course, ESFJ would be late to respond to these YT. We're out and about lol 😂 Love your content as always! I hate having enemies, but it makes sense. ~Saiyren
I'm an ESTJ and this is really accurate. I was actually having a conversation with someone the other day about how ESTJs aren't really designed to be the protagonist character in a lot of things, that's usually reserved for the higher Fi users, and I mentioned it being annoying how they let the bad guy live, and allow the law to "take it from there" like they've been doing such a splendid job before that. They're just opening themselves up to attacks in the future, what I'd do, is not only take out the villain, but everyone connected to them. It's like you said, all the embers must be stomped out. An example of the second law being accurate is, I'll make a server on discord, and make people mods so they can do the stuff I don't feel like doing, such as working with bots and inviting other people to join. The secret is, to recognize what people are good at, use that, but don't become reliant on them, and let them know that too, if they don't do their tasks, replace them for that role. If you can't find someone to replace them, then are you even an ESTJ? I'm joking, but my brain kinda sees people as categories of similarities rather than individuals, even with people I like, so it's nothing personal, I don't think less of anyone, I just don't think that highly of people to begin with, everyone is flawed and mostly only looking out for their own best interests, but I can't deny they're very talented and those talents benefit me. I still care about people, but I have to be super close to them to care about them personally if that makes any sense. With the last one, that's actually something I didn't realize until recently. I was in a server, telling everyone about the stuff I've been working on, and they asked me how I manage to do it, and they said they wish they could have my work ethic, but I thought I was lazy, so I don't even know what kind of mind frame they're operating on lol. I told them my methods that I use, which ruined the illusion. The thing about that though, is that if I teach people to be more efficient, then that could help them out, and also give other people more free time, because they won't have to drop what they're doing to go help someone with something, which they could do themselves if they just rearranged a couple of steps. It's actually really easy, getting tasks done is just the arrangement of steps you take to get there. Organization is the key. Anyway, it's like the quote says, "You give a man a fish, then he's fed for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, then he's fed for the rest of his life." I don't understand why I wouldn't tell people something to benefit them, only to have an illusion of making me look better or something like that? Why is it a bad thing for people to know the illusion if it benefits them?
One thing that did cross my mind when it came to that particular law of hiding your methods is that in the modern age with content creation you can get a lot of traction by talking about your systems and methods. In that sense, demystifying yourself can be very profitable. It's better to do that when you're already in a very successful position though ~ Nathan
@@lovewho That's true, I didn't think about making a profit over the stuff I teach people. I just thought, I like teaching people stuff, and this would be beneficial for them to learn. This is kind of stupid, but I feel like if I got paid for teaching someone something I wasn't an expert in, I'd feel like a fraud, if that makes any sense.
@@Shale240also what I notice about gaining the credit from other people's work is, it is destructive in the long run. of course, you can bend that law but the thing is, it is a lose-lose situation for us anyways. Better give credit where it is due AND capitalize on that while doing the lesser work and without making it obvious. I have done this a lot of times and it only helped me
@@Yohan421-e5g I agree with this. I feel important when I do the lesser work because I know how important that work actually is to help the bigger things to run smoothly. I also don't like getting recognition where I haven't earned it, even in non-serious situations, for example, back when my ex and I were still together, he invited me to his server and made me staff because of nepotism. I asked him if he'd demote me because I hadn't earned the position yet. If I'm going to do something, I want to do it the right way, it doesn't set a good example if some people take short cuts. Are you an ESTJ too?
Thank you. Now I know you don’t need to master all the laws. Select those which fit best to your personality, principles, and value. Then apply them well. While be observant to ones who are using the laws to manipulate & influence you against your will. I think Rober Greene should be proud of you.
Interesting angle / creative perspective - You seem very clever to me! … for what it’s worth… :)) (infj here although not a true Myers-briggs believer) … who knows ;)
I didn't think of peoples views of me as cult leader. But if I think carefully I don't really say or do something promising or believable but everybody just believes in me more than others idk bro I never say something I might not be able to fulfill. Plus it scares me how many times people have tried to stick close to follow me. My introverted nature would never I always end up going silent and avoiding them. It might hurt them but I can't explain situations without putting psychology in it that's my default and it might hurt their ego even more. I don't want someone to go from a friend to instant enemy.
Innovative concept. I admit that #46(Never appear too perfect) is admittedly something I have suffered because of as an INFJ, especially in the silent enemies part. I don't usually bother myself with trivialities to be frank, but give it time and those silent enemies will become more audible than ever expected, spreading falsehood and tarnishing integrity. That said, appearing imperfect is particularly difficult when you are well aware of how your actions affect your countenance and reputation, so I mostly resolved to avert the limelight to those who love it, while making sure that my presence and input in the minds of those I care for is as significant as I wish it to be.
Being ultra selective with your circle of friends is also an approach I've seen INFJs execute very well. Given their insight about people, they can dodge a lot of bullets that way. I suppose the discipline is to avoid letting people you're trying to help (but know to be dodgy or risky) get too close ~ Nathan
@@lovewho That's also true in my case. My relatives call me picky with people, rather than selective. Though if I were to remark a disadvantage to that approach, it would be that this exact selectiveness, paired with the boundaries that come with it, sometimes makes invisible walls between people, as it's expected to, but relationships built on walls seem to have a hard time overcoming them, oftentimes stopping right there. In most cases, it is for the best, but sometimes one can't help but wonder how things could've been only ifs.
There is something to be said for the approach of minimising mistakes in life. It sounds stupidly simple, but most people run into major difficulties in life because of big mistakes rather than the absence of huge successes ~ Nathan
@@lovewho true enough, but You speak rather about strong steps out (like prison, drugs, going to war and so on). At the least rate clever enough people can avoid them; but still, lacking a proper way of personal and career progressing, the one may find oneself as unsuccessful person (i.e., a humanitarian struggling to find a job aside of McDuc, KFC, etc.). And that is the huge problem of INTJs, as I see it. We are good at designing, implementing and keeping some stable problem-solving projects. But it's rather reaction, than action. Acting is a zone of unclear; the problem of a right choice arises, with few or no patterns to follow. You invent patterns, but situation changes, and your approach becomes outdated.
Very interesting application of these rules to type. It probably has something to do with me likely having Se-Trickster, but many of these rules seem like anathema to me. That kind of maneuvering seems unsustainable in the long term. On the flip side, having more warning signs for people trying to manipulate myself and others is nice. That’s going right into the framework.
Sustainability is essential when it comes to any strategy, so it's good that you're aware of that. If you're able to do something only in short bursts, you can also try to bring about situations in which you don't have to do that repeatedly for longer periods. Once you know which approaches work best for you, changing the settings and circumstances in which you use them is the next step ~ Nathan
Unfortunately, as an INTP, I am more Truth and Justice oriented, which is somewhat mutually exclusive to seeking power. The ones you mentioned for INTP are well mentioned though. The strong ones are basically second nature. I can't even get people to understand my intentions if I bluntly tell them what those are. Contrariwise, most other people are varying degrees of transparent, particularly when they band together, because they wind up emitting common signals. That rambled slightly. Many of the methods of other INTP adjacent types were also instructive. I'm just not sure how to apply them at work (the only social field I attend) when I really just want to keep my job and make more money, and my chief opponent is the department director.
I agree that this is a dilemma. There is something to be said for the purists route of accepting the consequences of the approach to life you take. I think there's a way to square this circle though. There are truths about human nature. If you become aligned with those, then you're not sacrificing truth in the name of power or vice versa ~ Nathan
Very true for ISFP - or well it's kind of a battle between two forces. I need to summon a deal of effort to encourage others to respect me and treat me well. But I feel like I can also act arrogant thinking like I am above others, probably an overcompensation?
It's a difficult thing to calibrate. If it's crossing over into arrogance then usually it's too much. The best mindset in my view is not to think you're above others, but to rarely think that others are above you, regardless of their status, achievements, skills or talents. If you deem someone to be of better character than you then that might be a time to channel some humility ~ Nathan
Hey Nathan, I am a big fan of Robert Greene. What do you think is his MBTI type? He appears very much like an INFP in his interviews, but he might be an INFJ, INTP, or INTJ. He did a Reddit AMA in which he said he is aware of Jung, and his type would be Introverted and Intuitive.
I've seen him typed as both an INFP and an ENTP in different systems (the latter being the Objective Personality typing system). In truth, I don't know enough about him as a person to speculate. As a related point, Machiavelli is typed as an ENTP, yet the character or "voice" he writes with (or archetype he puts forward in his writing) is more INTJ ~ Nathan
As an INTP I can say, that I unknowingly have "practised" the first two rules already. But it's great to see it like "black on white" written down. And, at first, the third rule seemed very hard to do, because I don't want to come around "dumber" then my opponent. *But then I realized that **_Columbo,_** from the TV show, is an INTP too. And this rule really is the heart of each of his victories!* 😃 (Now I just need a dirty trenchcoat ...)
I find that's often the case - people figure these laws out for themselves. Seeing them written down bluntly is indeed useful, as you said. Columbo (who me and my mother are huge fans of) is an ideal example. He's able to tolerate being seen as an idiot because he knows that he'll get that payoff at the end when he catches them. It's important to remember that the big payoff won't always be there in the same way when putting it into practice, but it's a deeply powerful approach regardless ~ Nathan
We ISTPs don't crave unnecessary attention. I just focus on doing my own work properly so that I can relax later. Being too competitive and trying to overpower others takes too much mental energy that I don't want to waste.
This is good. I write down some part for me (INFP) and my friend (ISFP). Although we are nothing in common, but only him who truly stays as a friend. Matthew 7:3-5 reminds me that we are suffering and must change together. I can't judge him bcs I am not that good.
As an INTP, I have mastered my weakness of showing intellect. Not with skill but I was told I was stupid from a young age cuz the conventional / simple things never interested me. So, it's easy to conceal my analysis and look like an absolute caveman
You can find some further musings of mine on this exact topic with a recent article on my Patreon titled: "How the 16 Types Can Become More Powerful". Here's the link: www.patreon.com/lovewho
~ Nathan
Welcome back ❤
The book was written by a legit psychopath. Which sadly means it's accurate, effective, and will make you lose hope in humanity.
The author is not a psychopath
@@fovarberma752 I find "The 48 Laws of Power" quite intense and challenging-I have had a hard time finishing the book. However, I don’t believe the author is a psychopath; rather, I think he has a deep understanding of how the dark triad traits can influence relationships.
Welcome back
A story about rule 1: My dad worked at a bank. I will drop the details but my dad was doing so well at his job that he was climbing the ladder at lightning speed. His boss felt so threatened that he decided to relocate him to a different branch and this is when things went down hill. My dad then always reminded me to do well at my job but never exceed the higher ups expectations.
It's such a tricky balancing act. In an ideal world, workplaces would be entirely meritocratic. That's rarely the case though. It's always important to be aware of the underlying game that's being played and not lose sight of that ~ Nathan
That's why I'm a freelancer
Haven't watched the video yet. But where were you!?! I missed your videos!
He was active and publishing articles on Patreon
I (ISTP) had a manager (ESTJ) who said, soon after my hire, "I can't read you. I don't know what you're thinking." I guess she thought my silence was some kind of power play? No. I told her that she doesn't have to read me, just ask what I'm thinking (I'll never volunteer it). I will always answer bluntly and plainly, no embellishments, no lies. We got along very very well. I still miss her. I don't know how to seek power, except over myself. I think that's all I really need though. Anything else sounds like an exercise in futility.
This combination makes a good marriage from my experience.
I have noticed that ISTPs are a type who seek personal power (i.e. power over themselves) to a huge degree yet rarely power over others. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but I would always be careful to avoid being too isolated or disconnected from networks of people. Extreme self-reliance is great as a default, but there will always come a point where you need other people. During such times, it's important that they good people who have your best interests at heart, or at the very least benefit in a transactional way from you ~ Nathan
Dude. I am pretty sure I told you about this idea a while ago in your comments section. So glad you finally did it.
Well done for incepting this idea into my mind ~ Nathan
When the world needed him the most... he came back. 🔥
Your explanation of high FE is EXCELLENT. I finally understand my personal struggles with what feels like an inability to be direct…. “They prefer to wrap things up in a palatable package when possible” Thank you Love Who
TIMESTAMPS
ESTP - 0:22
ISTP - 2:05
INFJ - 3:47
ENFJ - 5:42
ENTP - 7:51
INTP - 9:35
ISFJ - 11:15
ESFJ - 12:55
ENTJ - 14:46
INTJ - 16:38
ISFP - 18:20
ESFP - 19:59
ENFP - 21:53
INFP - 24:12
ISTJ - 25:58
ESTJ - 27:37
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God bless you
I am not surprised about how accurate this is .
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I have tried to read the 48 laws of power and I hated so much most of them that I couldn't read it anymore. I will act according to my moral principles and if the reality doesn't go my way then so be it. Trying my best to be a good person has always been more important than anything else, that's the only thing that I'll keep with me on the other side.
You're supposed to read them so you can know the moves of your "enemies" and ensure success of your endeavours (like being a "good person"). Because a proper good person is sure to make enemies, probably the most.
let me guess, you're a infp?
he's back!
"I see the singularity turning into a universe, I see a seed becoming a tree, and my ego asks, 'Why can't you?..." INFP
INTP, rule 21 comes with age.
you cant teach youth humility, when they just learned pride.
Rule 3, we do really be like Moriarty, we have no intentions and go with the flow; truth, knowledge... let the chips fall where they may.
Rule 20, yeah idk about this one. Workplaces value competency, obviously Greene means people, but this rule really needs to be elaborated on. And Greene does elaborate on this a little bit in his "Laws of Human Nature", it's not dark psychology, its more like gray psychology.
I mean I had the opposite journey, needing to learn a bit of pride. The type may lean that way, but most of that I imagine comes down to personal learnings and how one was raised (and what was taken from that).
Bought this book a few months ago. Nice to see a video connecting it's ideas with mbti, it offers a new perspective
Can u share ur opinions of the book?
@@yuiitodoro7791 Bad generic garbage
@@yuiitodoro7791 it's okay, some points are 'obvious' but aren't really intuitive, so it's nice to be shown something that makes sense.
I think this should've been a book rather than a booklet, I get the need to keep it brief and engaging, but some of the points the book bring up are too vague and lack implementation examples that connect it further to reality
@@DeChatill0n what points do u find obvious? Tbh I find the book really bad , with opinions and advices that would not help maintain any relationship... but I am very curious why ppl find it good
@@GIGADEV690 can I know what u don't like about it ? If u like to elaborate
Very insightful video. These Machiavellian type videos are superbly intriguing to watch as an INTJ
This is actually such a good idea, and you chose perfectly for ESTP
at first i thought wheres the boldness missing for ESTP but giving it to ESFP was the correct move, it's why people often confuse the two, ESTPs are more methodical than ESFPs
As an ISTP, I love how you always post ESTP and ISTP first in all lists ❤ my ego has been adequately stroked.
This is one of your best videos yet! Great job and I love that it is long and in depth. Great work!
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I love the ESTJ and ISTJ ones. These people are champions in long term total control and power. Nobody can defeat their consistency in their persuit for worldy powers. The INTJs and ENTJs achieve great power in short bursts but often mightier, but always fail to preserve it because their persuit in life while often assumed and seen as relentless persuit for power in the eyes of the people, it is actually purpose, destiny is what they are truly looking for, not power itself, unlike the ISTJs and ESTJs, ultimate power and monopoly is their purpose in this life.
The xNTJs hold for power is firm but not everlasting/short term, they are more fond of purpose meaning and destinty rather than absolute raw power domination monopoly. While the xSTJs hold for power is forever, they will even face the Gods themselves if they dare threathen their generational reign. The society we live in today, is a society and reality forged by xSTJs, we are able to have choices and live and indulge in our fantasy delusional rainbow hapoy go lucky lives because of their preserverance and tenacity in their hold of power and life, they lose respect to anyone who dares disrespect life after all humanity has been through to preserve life, then there's these suicidal modern kids😂 Epic vid! Thanks for anyone reading, the puzzle has always been in my mind, this video helped me solved it
xNTJs be like "So what if you hold absolute power? What is the meaning or purpose of it?"
xSTJs be like "Fuck your childish destiny meaning purpose bullshit, my purpose for power is life itself, my purpose is my people and children are starving and dying because of my incompetence and lenience for my enemy."
xNTJs: "My" people, "their" people, all the tribal humanity hierarchy games, I don't see the difference between "my ally" or "my enemy."
xSTJs: Again, I don't care about your childish phylosophies, all that matters is my children and people are dying under my watch. If I'm going to fight, I will choose to fight for my people instead of yours.
xNTJs: Again with the "mine," "yours," human games...
xSTJs: Do me and yourself a favor, go hang yourself. Wars you start for fun and glory while my people suffer... You are EVIL manifest.
xNTJs: Oh no here comes the duality human/monkey mindsets of good/evil, black/white, virtuous, righteousness bullshit 😂
xSTJs: KILL THEM ALL!!! MY CHILDREN WILL NEVER SUFFER AGAIN BECAUSE OF YOU
xNTJs: **died**
Who "wins" in the end... ? Both winners, just in different game/definition of it
There’s a high chance that this was written by an INFJ 😅👍🏽
So ST’s are the villains as I’ve always expected
@@realSimoneCherie Not quite.. But they are often seen as one. Depending on the situation, I'd say NJs are more of a "villain" than SJs but it is arguable.. Since SJs fight for their own tribe against the rest of the world while NJs fight for no one/everyone because they don't view things in tribal perspective, they think theres no enemy, only their own glory/destiny even by stepping on or "backstabbing" their own tribe/people to further their ambitions, but this cannot be seen as evil tho everyone will sht on them for this particular behaviour/tendency, they simply don't think in terms of "my people," "your people," aka tribal ways, instead they think like people are just people, not mine or yours, which heavily unlike how the SJs think, also, NPs are extremely tribal and "selfish," unlike the SJs who are tribal but very justice oriented while NPs give zero regard on that sense.. So yeah just because someone is an NP doesn't make them less tribal than SJs, in fact NPs are more tribal, they're similar to each other. While NJs are more similar to SPs than the NPs... It's paradoxical but very interesting nuances in these specific types. Thanks for reading and commenting
@@fabrice.ngoran Hi. I'm not sure what type I am... I think INTJ or ESFP. Thank you for reading!
Welcome back Nathan. Missed your adorable face and brilliant mind ❤
wow! It's amazing how each law of power fits almost perfectly with each personality type
Given that I decided to use each law only once, I was also surprised that they all matched up decently well ~ Nathan
That outfit change halfway through made me jump! Really enjoyed listening to your words this time, I may need to revisit this again for.... research purposes 🧐The entire video (especially the way you applied this topic to personality types) is a work of art 🙌
Brilliant. I think Robert Greene, the author of 48 Laws (an INFP), would approve (if he hasn't already) 🙂
So missed your voice and it's lovely to "see" you. Oh yeah....great video. You NAILED ENTP's (my hubby) and me (ENFP)
I am also ENFP and recently made a revolutionary proposal at my workplace, and nobody was ready for it. Symbolism and ceremony are my strong suits. I realised the affect my proposal must have had an it gave me some great perspective.
This was a perfect match up.
Robert Greene is one of my favorite authors-48 Laws of Power is a great book.
This is really good even if you know nothing about personality _or_ Robert Greene. It’s almost like a quick and dirty little cliffsnotes of the book. Well done! I bet this took _a lot_ of work, it’s a fantastic video.
Thank you! That’s what I was aiming for - something that people from either side of the knowledge spectrum could understand ~ Nathan
Yeah outshining the master i can definitely relate to. Mostly just trying to outshine yourself but unintentionally making enemies in the process. Nice work Nathan. 👌🏽
Love the artwork, and the concept of this video! Great job man
Why thank you... ~ Nathan
❤ robert greene. As an infj i especially loved reading the laws of human nature.
Radiant and Glorious! 💖
The most creative MBTI content creator I've ever seen💪💪🥰
I have been waiting for a new video, thank u ❤
The return!
Loved this book, gave it to my son, also named Nathan, as an 8th grade graduation present. This was a good idea and you did a great job with it.
I approve of that (and the name!) ~ Nathan
Glad you back!
Well rounded how you managed to assign all laws to the types. Feels cohesive and like you put thought into this. Appreciated.
I was surprised that it worked without repeating any of the laws! I’m glad you liked it ~ Nathan
finally back !
Bro I missed you !!!! Interesting theme as always ❤❤❤
Welcome back!
Glad to see a new video and that he is doing well. Very interesting concept and extremely valid for each. Also the timing, Rule 11 is what my therapist kept pointing out about me in the last session. But allow me to add this is a trap if it's taken as given and if you lose someone because they now found someone else to rely on, you are left feeling used...
Number 5 has helped me a lot at work, especially in theatre-cinema industry. Having a good name as a worker in both leading and assisting positions can offer more opportunities and better environment in MANY ways.
As for n12, can't relate, I am personally too honest...even bluntly honest often. I always find something good to say but only if it's true. Si helps spotting the details that might give you an opening for a nice word and Fe helps you understand what the other person values, which compliment will matter for them and how it can be expressed the best. For example, I wanted to compliment my partner, I always pointed out her best traits, left out her imperfections and expressed my compliments in an elegant way she wouldn't feel sexualised, but admired instead.
That's a good point regarding honesty. You can always find something good and true to say. It's just a question of what you choose to focus on in any given moment ~ Nathan
Brilliant!
funny coincidence (a bit), I have 3 mini posters on my wall (2 really well and 1 struggle):
1 Knowing nothing like a boss
2 I have part of a plan
3 Quantum Physics
Nathan, this video you made is an absolute masterpiece!
So we can type us through our often used strategies and failures + learning something about the 48 laws and how they are being used by other types.
SPLENDID☆☆☆
Half hour video let's goooo. We missed you man.
How I wish I were the sort of person described here... It would be awesome to be that. Perhaps it comes across as such in some scenarios, but it honestly baffles me when it does because I mostly have an interpretation of who I am that comes from the inside out and not outside in. In that sense, the inner process is quite chaotic, confusing, filled with doubts, questions, difficulty accepting things as they are, needing a lot of time to adapt, not being able and comfortable asking for help nor being strict with setting limits and boundaries even when needed, not voicing concerns cause you are aware of your strengths but also shortcomings and weaknesses so even if you do not take things personally and can rationalize them, there is always a level of hurt left to fester on the inside and you know you need to do a lot of inner digging and surgical procedure away from the crowd, preferring exploration to following set paths only to realize that you are left alone in the woods and need to learn to depend solely on yourself and work on issues (both real and created by the mind) alone. From experience, I know that people (once they really get to know you) do see you as capable of leading because you do so from a place of respect of differences and freedom to explore, make mistakes and treat life as an experiment. But until that happens, bumping into walls, stumbling and falling is needed. This is not pleasant. Because in some cases you take it as a confirmation to a message you have failed to receive as a kid. And a lot of people who share my personality type have the 'not good enough' as an internalized message we work to "repair". But instead of "perfecting" the message and changing messengers , we cut pieces of ourselves because we see and accept the fault within.
He has arrived. It took him a few months, but he has returned to us.
So brilliant
Hi. Glad to see that you're still alive and well. If I may ask, could you please finish your 16 Personalities as leaders series and your 12 rules for life series and what all of the 16 Personalities think of each other?
Intp rule of life #1: never finish the project you've started.
Ooh! Well done and insightful, per usual. I use the mirror almost instinctually, as well - istp
Interesting combination of type and strategy. I like it ~ Nathan
i like his videos! glad we're getting more 💃
so interesting! im currently employing all three of mine
You're back !!!! Please make more videos :))))
THE KING IS BACK 👑
High time for a welcome back; miss seeing these lovely videos🎉
Which law was "never be the odd man out"? Im an INFP and I outshine the master and i tend to be the odd man out. Sad to see that its happened to me where i stood with my beliefs and got discarded. I'd do it again and again.
Such a helpful video and such a genuinely perfect execution of a great idea
Never Outshine your master xD
Welcome back Nathan.
Of course, ESFJ would be late to respond to these YT. We're out and about lol 😂
Love your content as always! I hate having enemies, but it makes sense.
~Saiyren
I'm an ESTJ and this is really accurate.
I was actually having a conversation with someone the other day about how ESTJs aren't really designed to be the protagonist character in a lot of things, that's usually reserved for the higher Fi users, and I mentioned it being annoying how they let the bad guy live, and allow the law to "take it from there" like they've been doing such a splendid job before that.
They're just opening themselves up to attacks in the future, what I'd do, is not only take out the villain, but everyone connected to them. It's like you said, all the embers must be stomped out.
An example of the second law being accurate is, I'll make a server on discord, and make people mods so they can do the stuff I don't feel like doing, such as working with bots and inviting other people to join.
The secret is, to recognize what people are good at, use that, but don't become reliant on them, and let them know that too, if they don't do their tasks, replace them for that role.
If you can't find someone to replace them, then are you even an ESTJ? I'm joking, but my brain kinda sees people as categories of similarities rather than individuals, even with people I like, so it's nothing personal, I don't think less of anyone, I just don't think that highly of people to begin with, everyone is flawed and mostly only looking out for their own best interests, but I can't deny they're very talented and those talents benefit me.
I still care about people, but I have to be super close to them to care about them personally if that makes any sense.
With the last one, that's actually something I didn't realize until recently.
I was in a server, telling everyone about the stuff I've been working on, and they asked me how I manage to do it, and they said they wish they could have my work ethic, but I thought I was lazy, so I don't even know what kind of mind frame they're operating on lol.
I told them my methods that I use, which ruined the illusion.
The thing about that though, is that if I teach people to be more efficient, then that could help them out, and also give other people more free time, because they won't have to drop what they're doing to go help someone with something, which they could do themselves if they just rearranged a couple of steps.
It's actually really easy, getting tasks done is just the arrangement of steps you take to get there. Organization is the key.
Anyway, it's like the quote says, "You give a man a fish, then he's fed for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, then he's fed for the rest of his life."
I don't understand why I wouldn't tell people something to benefit them, only to have an illusion of making me look better or something like that?
Why is it a bad thing for people to know the illusion if it benefits them?
One thing that did cross my mind when it came to that particular law of hiding your methods is that in the modern age with content creation you can get a lot of traction by talking about your systems and methods. In that sense, demystifying yourself can be very profitable. It's better to do that when you're already in a very successful position though ~ Nathan
@@lovewho That's true, I didn't think about making a profit over the stuff I teach people.
I just thought, I like teaching people stuff, and this would be beneficial for them to learn.
This is kind of stupid, but I feel like if I got paid for teaching someone something I wasn't an expert in, I'd feel like a fraud, if that makes any sense.
@@Shale240also what I notice about gaining the credit from other people's work is, it is destructive in the long run. of course, you can bend that law but the thing is, it is a lose-lose situation for us anyways. Better give credit where it is due AND capitalize on that while doing the lesser work and without making it obvious. I have done this a lot of times and it only helped me
@@Yohan421-e5g I agree with this.
I feel important when I do the lesser work because I know how important that work actually is to help the bigger things to run smoothly.
I also don't like getting recognition where I haven't earned it, even in non-serious situations, for example, back when my ex and I were still together, he invited me to his server and made me staff because of nepotism.
I asked him if he'd demote me because I hadn't earned the position yet.
If I'm going to do something, I want to do it the right way, it doesn't set a good example if some people take short cuts.
Are you an ESTJ too?
@@Shale240 I am an istj, I just find traits from estj that branches off to me personally, since mbti is effective but not a guaranteed system.
So nice to see your face again.
Intéressant
Thank you. Now I know you don’t need to master all the laws. Select those which fit best to your personality, principles, and value. Then apply them well. While be observant to ones who are using the laws to manipulate & influence you against your will.
I think Rober Greene should be proud of you.
This is absolutely brilliant
Thank you for creating and sharing!
#42 works best on me since i apply #15 and need #35
These are a bit dark if in a more positive light, still on point.
Interesting angle / creative perspective - You seem very clever to me! … for what it’s worth… :)) (infj here although not a true Myers-briggs believer) … who knows ;)
He's alive!
infp here, this is spot on for me 💔🙏🕊️ ❤
I found myself already using some laws of that book
"Never Outshine the Master"
" Act as sucker to catch a sucker"
"Always say less than necessary"
That's a strong trio to be making use of! ~ Nathan
Personal note: 14:47 - 18:20
I didn't think of peoples views of me as cult leader. But if I think carefully I don't really say or do something promising or believable but everybody just believes in me more than others idk bro I never say something I might not be able to fulfill. Plus it scares me how many times people have tried to stick close to follow me. My introverted nature would never I always end up going silent and avoiding them. It might hurt them but I can't explain situations without putting psychology in it that's my default and it might hurt their ego even more. I don't want someone to go from a friend to instant enemy.
hey Nathan 🎉 glad youre back :)
im an infp and i have done all those things without even knowing what they were. i got chills and my brain is itchy
This guy is very productive for an INTP
Heyyy, welcome back! You’ve been missed so much ❤
Yes missed you tooo😢
Innovative concept.
I admit that #46(Never appear too perfect) is admittedly something I have suffered because of as an INFJ, especially in the silent enemies part.
I don't usually bother myself with trivialities to be frank, but give it time and those silent enemies will become more audible than ever expected, spreading falsehood and tarnishing integrity.
That said, appearing imperfect is particularly difficult when you are well aware of how your actions affect your countenance and reputation, so I mostly resolved to avert the limelight to those who love it, while making sure that my presence and input in the minds of those I care for is as significant as I wish it to be.
Being ultra selective with your circle of friends is also an approach I've seen INFJs execute very well. Given their insight about people, they can dodge a lot of bullets that way. I suppose the discipline is to avoid letting people you're trying to help (but know to be dodgy or risky) get too close ~ Nathan
@@lovewho That's also true in my case. My relatives call me picky with people, rather than selective.
Though if I were to remark a disadvantage to that approach, it would be that this exact selectiveness, paired with the boundaries that come with it, sometimes makes invisible walls between people, as it's expected to, but relationships built on walls seem to have a hard time overcoming them, oftentimes stopping right there.
In most cases, it is for the best, but sometimes one can't help but wonder how things could've been only ifs.
Thwart attacks before they happen...yes. A mild critique... might make you appear more sincere😅 sharp man. ISFJ
And, in their hour of greatest need, he returned.
Interesting video, thank you!
OK rule number 42 is just petrifying. I can’t imagine thinking that way
The weakspot rule of INTJs is true enough, we tend to play defensive (both in games and in life).
There is something to be said for the approach of minimising mistakes in life. It sounds stupidly simple, but most people run into major difficulties in life because of big mistakes rather than the absence of huge successes ~ Nathan
@@lovewho true enough, but You speak rather about strong steps out (like prison, drugs, going to war and so on). At the least rate clever enough people can avoid them; but still, lacking a proper way of personal and career progressing, the one may find oneself as unsuccessful person (i.e., a humanitarian struggling to find a job aside of McDuc, KFC, etc.). And that is the huge problem of INTJs, as I see it. We are good at designing, implementing and keeping some stable problem-solving projects. But it's rather reaction, than action. Acting is a zone of unclear; the problem of a right choice arises, with few or no patterns to follow. You invent patterns, but situation changes, and your approach becomes outdated.
Genius 👏
Very interesting application of these rules to type.
It probably has something to do with me likely having Se-Trickster, but many of these rules seem like anathema to me. That kind of maneuvering seems unsustainable in the long term. On the flip side, having more warning signs for people trying to manipulate myself and others is nice. That’s going right into the framework.
Sustainability is essential when it comes to any strategy, so it's good that you're aware of that. If you're able to do something only in short bursts, you can also try to bring about situations in which you don't have to do that repeatedly for longer periods. Once you know which approaches work best for you, changing the settings and circumstances in which you use them is the next step ~ Nathan
He finally found his passowrd!
I had to go on a quest comprised of 13 deadly challenges to retrieve it ~ Nathan
Unfortunately, as an INTP, I am more Truth and Justice oriented, which is somewhat mutually exclusive to seeking power. The ones you mentioned for INTP are well mentioned though. The strong ones are basically second nature. I can't even get people to understand my intentions if I bluntly tell them what those are. Contrariwise, most other people are varying degrees of transparent, particularly when they band together, because they wind up emitting common signals. That rambled slightly. Many of the methods of other INTP adjacent types were also instructive. I'm just not sure how to apply them at work (the only social field I attend) when I really just want to keep my job and make more money, and my chief opponent is the department director.
I agree that this is a dilemma. There is something to be said for the purists route of accepting the consequences of the approach to life you take. I think there's a way to square this circle though. There are truths about human nature. If you become aligned with those, then you're not sacrificing truth in the name of power or vice versa ~ Nathan
#3. I have learned the ways of looking stupid. I wait for them to call me stupid or idiot and then I strike. >:)
Very true for ISFP - or well it's kind of a battle between two forces. I need to summon a deal of effort to encourage others to respect me and treat me well. But I feel like I can also act arrogant thinking like I am above others, probably an overcompensation?
It's a difficult thing to calibrate. If it's crossing over into arrogance then usually it's too much. The best mindset in my view is not to think you're above others, but to rarely think that others are above you, regardless of their status, achievements, skills or talents. If you deem someone to be of better character than you then that might be a time to channel some humility ~ Nathan
Hey Nathan, I am a big fan of Robert Greene. What do you think is his MBTI type? He appears very much like an INFP in his interviews, but he might be an INFJ, INTP, or INTJ. He did a Reddit AMA in which he said he is aware of Jung, and his type would be Introverted and Intuitive.
I've seen him typed as both an INFP and an ENTP in different systems (the latter being the Objective Personality typing system). In truth, I don't know enough about him as a person to speculate. As a related point, Machiavelli is typed as an ENTP, yet the character or "voice" he writes with (or archetype he puts forward in his writing) is more INTJ ~ Nathan
INTJs always make sure there is happy ending… for them. I whispered that last part just before you said it 😂😂😂
As an INTP I can say, that I unknowingly have "practised" the first two rules already. But it's great to see it like "black on white" written down.
And, at first, the third rule seemed very hard to do, because I don't want to come around "dumber" then my opponent.
*But then I realized that **_Columbo,_** from the TV show, is an INTP too. And this rule really is the heart of each of his victories!* 😃 (Now I just need a dirty trenchcoat ...)
I find that's often the case - people figure these laws out for themselves. Seeing them written down bluntly is indeed useful, as you said.
Columbo (who me and my mother are huge fans of) is an ideal example. He's able to tolerate being seen as an idiot because he knows that he'll get that payoff at the end when he catches them. It's important to remember that the big payoff won't always be there in the same way when putting it into practice, but it's a deeply powerful approach regardless ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Thank you, Nathan, for your insightful reply. I will keep your words in mind. :) ~ Sacha
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Welcome back.
We ISTPs don't crave unnecessary attention. I just focus on doing my own work properly so that I can relax later. Being too competitive and trying to overpower others takes too much mental energy that I don't want to waste.
Indeed. The ISTP ability to sustain immense independence is a great source of their power for sure ~ Nathan
Estp here and I agree
This is good. I write down some part for me (INFP) and my friend (ISFP). Although we are nothing in common, but only him who truly stays as a friend. Matthew 7:3-5 reminds me that we are suffering and must change together. I can't judge him bcs I am not that good.
As an INTP, I have mastered my weakness of showing intellect. Not with skill but I was told I was stupid from a young age cuz the conventional / simple things never interested me. So, it's easy to conceal my analysis and look like an absolute caveman
Remember that it's actually quite common for smart people to be seen as dumb by dumb people
Thank you. Master.