@@daleksec01 nah its not enough like the garand to warrant a ping, i think it would be cooler to pay tribute to how normal bolt action clips actually work
Would be cool if they add a reload mechanic similar to the senator. When you reload while fully empty you use a clip to feed the ammo into the rifle, otherwise you load bullets one at a time.
I personally would love to see the break-action double barrel shotgun become a primary weapon. It doesn’t have to be good, just having it as an option alongside my AMR would let me cosplay my favorite Call of Duty build from way back when.
The fact they added the Helldivers 1 armour along with the M2016 Constitution rifle in all it's glory is more than enough to respect the Divers who were there during the first war.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Same energy as calling the R97 from Titanfall the R99 or the R201/R101 the R301, just because Apex is newer. The M2016 is the original this one is based on
I adore that they added a complete meme weapon alongside a really good armor set Shows that arrowhead knows what they're doing. As an Addendum, A lot of people replying are, to me, fundamentally missing the point of what I'm trying to say. The Rifle is, for all intents and purposes, intended as a joke and homage to the first game. Despite the fact that it was, quote, "better in the first game," this, and comments which somehow attempt to downplay the usefulness of the Democracy Protects Armor Affect, are completely ignoring one key factor. Context. Both of these items were released as Homages to a previous game in the series. One is completely cosmetic, but still serves the purpose of providing first time players (after the 28th when this is rolled out to everyone who didn't participate in the event) with a free Democracy protects armor set. Even if YOU don't PERSONALLY like the status effects of Democracy protects, that's a purely subjective take. The rifle is a very heavy point of contention. And, while I agree wipoosome points which request that the rifle is made more viable, it completely misses the point, once again. This is a Free Rifle. In modern Canon, it's used in a CMP. The Constitution's faults may be subject to a future buff, but the fact of the matter is that this was the result of a free gift for all players. It's not a desperately needed tactical asset. It's not a new war bond. It's a treat for people who play the game. I know this isn't gonna stop the comments, in fact responding at all is just going to activate this further but I don't really care. You're whining about a rifle in a video game. One that, despite being a flawed weapon, is beautifully animated.
@@connertomaterhater6691it's 100 years old, and it's supposed to be ceremonial (so it hasn't been modernized). It's going to be a great challenge weapon for the salt divers who think diff 10 is too easy.
@@BouncingTribbles Honestly, at 180 damage, medium armor pen, and good range/accuracy, it's a pretty decent weapon. Plus, it's got that sweet, sweet bayonet that seems to increase melee damage. It's certainly not the worst weapon in the game.
I worked as creative lead for a moderately-sized game once, and details like this were usually included not because I planned for them in the animation document, but because someone had a little extra time and wanted to do something neat. It's a sign of a healthy working environment, when people feel like they can add creative flourishes like that!
@@doumoa7881 You'd be surprised how many people probably buy SC. There are a lot of people that only have a small amount of play time, and to them farming up SC wouldn't be something they'd have time to do. Dropping $10 a month is virtually nothing compared to the added fun they get, so they'd do it in a heartbeat. Source: every person who has ever defended a p2w or pay to save time mechanic, ever.
I’ve heard many people declare this “a melee weapon with a gun attached,” but ironically that’s really what the first rifles were; muskets comes to mind here.
Even earlier they had started to make matchlock interiors onto common melee weapons for the battlefield. The arms portion of the museum in versailles has some great examples on display
@JC-eo2qe lmao no please I am begging you not to read reddit any more. Bayonettes were invented by the Bayon in France in 1660ish. They basically tied hunting knives on thier rifles to use whne munitions were low. Muskets go back 150+ years before that, to Arbusquieres, which didn't have a fixed blade, and we're intended for battlements use. Lmao do you honestly think guns were just one day added onto spears and pikes and Bill hooks as a secondary one- use weapon????? Lmao, early muskets weighed dozens of pounds, we're expensive and could explode if you damaged the barrel, you would never use one as a melee weapon. Infantry platoons using muskets as a primary fighting tool would carry two, or have a stack of loaded ones at their entrenched position, or would March, fire, reload in waves of Infantry for overlapping fire. This is the most basic facts of the history of warfare. I have no idea where you would find such misinformation or why you would share it so freely but please for the love of God read one book about the advancement and origins of the rifle. Early rifles were downsized cannons, fired from shoulder or wall, not spears/swords with a gun attachment. Lmao bruh moment
@@matthewdeklerk3457 Being condescending doesn't help when trying to enlighten someone. And while OP may not be accurate he's on the right track. Your history is too European minded. Some of the first firearms were literally attached to spears in 10th century China. see: Firelances.
Other info the Constitution has double the melee and eleven time the durable damage of normal attacks, further buffed with the armor perk for both values
That's three times the usual melee damage. It is absolutely heavenly to play against bugs with a shield generator with vitality perk. Being able to charge into a horde and stabbing 20 bugs to death before retreating (mostly) unscathed is fucking awesome lol
@@RobinCernyMitSuffix it wouldn't be like the knives, you would just throw and them be able to pick it up again, give it like medium pen but if you throw it against heavy armor it ricochets into another enemy
I wish the thing actually hit like a 30-06 and hell, honestly, give it heavy armor pen. Right now it's a meme weapon. A pretty, really well animated meme weapon, and kinda fun to roleplay a trench cleaning run on low difficulty bots, but a meme weapon at the end of the day
That's the point. It's a meme weapon you take to meme around. You seriously want a primitive bolt-action rifle using an obsolete round to compete with guns made a couple centuries in the future?
@@ferdinand5223 yes because in the first game it was actually really good. a meme gun does not deserve to be bad in comparison to other weapons, I don't think it needs to break heavy armor, but I would like for it to hit fairly hard. every weapon in this game should have a confertable gameplay loop that works around that weapon. meme or not
It didn't had stripe clips in the first game neither, you spammed the reload key to reload it on your own speed. Potentially reloading it insanely fast if your fingers were able to press the said button quickly.
Battlefield 1 had the same differentiated partial reload animations on all their weapons (including all bolt-action rifles) way back in 2016. Its truly the best BF entry in recent history.
I remember using this weapon in Helldivers (2015) and just getting swarmed by the Cyborg dogs. Never used it again until today and the same thing happened 💀
@@ferdinand5223 I mean its a medal, a symbol, not a weapon, if they really wanted to balance it I would make it a secondary, but im fine as it is because its suppose to be a meme weapon
@@Flameshot_ I was trying to ape the smoothbrains who wanted to buff a meme weapon because they couldn't kill stuff with it as quickly as they would have with real primary weapons.
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
You actually charge forward a small distance when using the bayonet at "critical range". You'll notice your character lunge forward if you're about 2-3 full steps away and are pre aiming your melee at a weak point.
@@Sinner_Sanctified_in_hashtag That's actually really cool. Considering this is one of the only real melee weapons in the game, there's no doubt that the intention is to enable melee attacks to a better standard.
@@Animefanboy4lifeThat’s stupid. It’s a complete waste of time putting this amount of recourses into something that people will only use for a few days then forget.
@@Animefanboy4life it wouldn’t be great, but it would be better. I agree with it having just five rounds that would make it not the best weapon, but a damage buff with make it much comfortable to use and maybe a higher armor pen make it like a senator primary. It’s not OP it’s just a gimmick weapon
the old stuff. godt i love when they give us stuff i recognise from the old game. i loved the constitution... i wish we could have bayonets on all our weapons. i miss that feature
Theres something hilarious about running around the galaxy fighting robots and bugs with a ww2 weapon and just barely squeeking out of certain death situations
'Bayonet' should be a Weapon Trait that greatly increases melee damage. And they should add more guns/alter existing guns to have bayonets, so people have more options when their ammo's out and they need to deal with the bots/bugs swarming them right this second.
Hey man! I appreciate the time you take making these explainer videos of further details into Helldivers 2. It's reminiscent of Zullie the Witch videos! I wish the constitution made the M1 Garand ping when you completely empty it though ;_;
Thank you, I did not notice that! Just wish they gave it heavy armor pen. In all but total ammo capacity this thing is putclassed by the senator for crying out loud.
When this game came out I played it everyday for 3 months until they began their nerfing campaign, which ruined the fun for me. But since the new update, I'm right back in there, and the game is even more fun than before.
I think we have to realize that Helldivers are actually really intelligent if we do side by side comparisons with Venom snake the average helldiver is on par with the greatest soldier
Back in the Helldivers 1, they were used to be picked amongst the SEAF's best soldiers and veterans. I don't know why they choose to portray them as brainwashed college kids in the second game.
Does the Bayonet give a secret Melee damage boost? Or is it more of a Speical Animation then anything else. Because I'd like to know due to the fact of also adding the Peek Armor buff that gives 50% More melee damage
Considering its a ceremonial rifle, I guess it kind of makes sense that it is on tne weaker side. I think it is supposed to be a more common gun than the standard liberator and is likely more akin to the double barrel shotgun.
Good eye. I like seeing all the intricacies you discover in this game. Some passionate devs involved for sure. Also, watching your videos is worth it just to hear "Peril". Halo 2 had some awesome tracks.
Two questions: 1. Does the bayonet offer any additional damage to melee attacks? 2. If yes to the above, does it stack with the damage boost from the Peak Physique armour passive?
And on top of all the above, the shots will penetrate through regular troopers so if you line up your shots right you can get 2-for-1's with relative ease
My only complaints are the rifle isn’t loaded via a charger/clip when fully empty and that the bayonet isn’t longer 😂 other than that it’s pretty awesome Would be really nice if it was heavy armour pen as well Seeing as it’s pretty much either a niche or meme gun otherwise
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
@@corditesniffer8020 No problem friend, I hope you can enjoy the Constitution as much as I do! It's always a treat to have bolt action rifles in a shooter game no matter what genre it is!
our first step of getting a true melee option in the game. the gun is much to be desired with how slow and low damage but it helps me remember all those brave souls who fought in the first war
This just makes me want a full first-person mode even more where you don't have to be aiming down sights for it. Reload animations are by far the hardest part to implement in first-person, and those are already done. It probably will never happen, but I can dream.
It's obvious that they have more than 20 minutes of training, and this time has never been canonized anywhere, it's just a joke/bad argument from some people outside and inside the community.
I actually noticed that whenever I was crouched and melee with the Constitution, it actually lunges me forward with some momentum. Maybe there's some gameplay technique/use for that?
Man this weapon is a funny weapon to use with the bayonet. Though I wonder if AH is also hinting a melee based gun in the future. Who knows, silly stuff like this is always welcome in my book
alternate melee idea: Hold the melee button to "ready" your melee attack, granting you increased sprinting speed. If you're sprinting when you strike, you deal double damage, but have a longer recovery (this is to incentivize rushing in for an attack, but disincentivize using it as a mobility option, as if you get caught with your pants down, you'll have to go through a long melee animation before you can retaliate. An extra system will need to be put into place to prevent a diver from swapping weapons or attacking while melee attacking). However, if you are not sprinting, you will instead guard against incoming melee attacks. It won't negate damage, but it'll eat up stamina and decrease damage received by, say 60/80% if you have stamina, and 20/40% if you don't have stamina. Of course, with melee combat you could go just about anywhere (just look at games like Mordhau and it's insane complex melee system), This is just an idea I had on the spot. Since melee is just one button press, I thought a little extra complexity could be added onto it to make it a bit more viable. That being said, as a PC player, I have no idea how ergonomic this would be on controller. With how complicated shooting a gun is in this game, it's a shame that melee isn't given more love. It's surprisingly viable if you get the first hit in, you stunlock just about anything the size of a devastator. There are many times I've wanted to run up to a bot or bug and just smash its face in, only to have to hit them like 8 times and then get swarmed because I took too long to kill them and got surrounded. I think being in melee should be a death sentence, both for you and for the enemies of democracy. Of course, the terminids are already melee-focused, but dives spend most of their time making space and shooting them anyways, and I don't think having a slightly more advanced melee system would be a huge detriment, especially if you can only really hit one or two enemies at a time in a horde shooter.
Incredibly fucking based addition. My team suffered zero losses just from taking this into battle and i cannot wait to pair this with jungle armor tomorrow and go absolutely sly marbo on democracy's enemies
I’m sure that I’d enough of us military surplus autists complain about it they will add it pretty quickly Hopefully quicker than the speed leader for the Senator
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
I mean, it makes sense. All Helldivers were given one at the age of 16 to encourage enlistment, ofc they'd know how to operate it intuitively like this
I absolutely adore this gun, and not just for the bayonet. I have no clue why, but while all the other marksman rifles act like they're smoothbore for me, this beautiful, glorious, patriot of a rifle feels so, so accurate, like the bullets track whatever I'm shooting at half the time. I even keep headshotting Devastators like crazy, I can almost never do that with the snipers! Is it the best? Probably not. Is it my new favorite? Absolutely, right up there next to the Blitzer.
Honestly it does surprise me how realistic they make the weapon operation in Helldivers, like discarding whole mags and such. Unnecessary given the tone/type of game but I love it.
The melee is the best option so far. If you wear the viper commando set (buffs melee damage) you can kill hunters in 2 hits which is faster than reloading
One thing I noticed was that sadly, the bayonet gets less stagger than a normal smack. Sounds weird, but its true. When getting charged by a Brood Commander, you can smack it right before it hits you and stop the charge. Unfortunately, when you do this with the bayonet, it doesn't stop the charge. It'll still damage it, so you know you timed it right, but it will charge straight through and still knock you down.
ARROW HEAD WE DEMAND STRIPPER CLIP RELOAD ON FULL EMPTY! We got it for the senator, we need it for this rifle as well!
With a “ping” when empty? 🥺
@@daleksec01 nah its not enough like the garand to warrant a ping, i think it would be cooler to pay tribute to how normal bolt action clips actually work
@@daleksec01 each time you fire it it pings, I think thats 5 pings over just 1 ping.
@@daleksec01 "ping" is a m1 garand thing, this rifle doesn't work like that.
More pings more dopamine more dopamine more reloads, more pings which just makes the loop tighter. @@muaxh03
At last
A proper melee option that isn't bashing the enemy with the gun.
FIX BAYONETS, HELLDIVERS!
GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT
Yeah it would be cool if we could attach bayonets to the other rifles like the liberator rifles
The melee actually works, and it bypasses bots blocking with their glowing blades 😁
It has the same range as other melee though
ahh.. free at last
Would be cool if they add a reload mechanic similar to the senator. When you reload while fully empty you use a clip to feed the ammo into the rifle, otherwise you load bullets one at a time.
Yeah I was hoping for a quick reload option.
that would be really cool. and they could add that satisfiing clip ejection sound :D
WE NEED STRIPPER CLIPS! THIS IS THE DAMNED 2100’s!
Yes, the Constitution needs stripper clip reloads
If they can add speed loader on the Senator, I'm sure they can add stripper clip later on the Constitution rifle.
It is now time for Constitution, Break Action, and Senator build. All i need is my 10 Gallon hat
I just tried. It’s absurdly fun until you need to reload and there’s a bug breach.
@@Samuel034 real ones dont have to deal with bug breaches because they are too busy being pinned down or torn apart by red cyber bullets and rockets
or Constitution, Railgun, and Senator
I personally would love to see the break-action double barrel shotgun become a primary weapon. It doesn’t have to be good, just having it as an option alongside my AMR would let me cosplay my favorite Call of Duty build from way back when.
This is gonna be my new primary on my scout build
The fact they added the Helldivers 1 armour along with the M2016 Constitution rifle in all it's glory is more than enough to respect the Divers who were there during the first war.
I love you every time i see you footsoldier
My dude, it's the 2124.
@@Crimnox_Cinder My dude, semantics.
@@nvmjec my dude, reading.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Same energy as calling the R97 from Titanfall the R99 or the R201/R101 the R301, just because Apex is newer.
The M2016 is the original this one is based on
I adore that they added a complete meme weapon alongside a really good armor set
Shows that arrowhead knows what they're doing.
As an Addendum,
A lot of people replying are, to me, fundamentally missing the point of what I'm trying to say.
The Rifle is, for all intents and purposes, intended as a joke and homage to the first game. Despite the fact that it was, quote, "better in the first game," this, and comments which somehow attempt to downplay the usefulness of the Democracy Protects Armor Affect, are completely ignoring one key factor.
Context.
Both of these items were released as Homages to a previous game in the series.
One is completely cosmetic, but still serves the purpose of providing first time players (after the 28th when this is rolled out to everyone who didn't participate in the event) with a free Democracy protects armor set.
Even if YOU don't PERSONALLY like the status effects of Democracy protects, that's a purely subjective take.
The rifle is a very heavy point of contention. And, while I agree wipoosome points which request that the rifle is made more viable, it completely misses the point, once again.
This is a Free Rifle.
In modern Canon, it's used in a CMP.
The Constitution's faults may be subject to a future buff, but the fact of the matter is that this was the result of a free gift for all players.
It's not a desperately needed tactical asset.
It's not a new war bond.
It's a treat for people who play the game.
I know this isn't gonna stop the comments, in fact responding at all is just going to activate this further but I don't really care.
You're whining about a rifle in a video game.
One that, despite being a flawed weapon, is beautifully animated.
The constitution was not horrible in the first game
now they just have to update maps to be more interesting and put more things that encourage grouping instead of splitting up
@@connertomaterhater6691it's 100 years old, and it's supposed to be ceremonial (so it hasn't been modernized). It's going to be a great challenge weapon for the salt divers who think diff 10 is too easy.
@@BouncingTribblesTechnically it’s nearly 300 years old but this variation is only a few decades old. It’s based off the 1901 Springfield
@@BouncingTribbles Honestly, at 180 damage, medium armor pen, and good range/accuracy, it's a pretty decent weapon. Plus, it's got that sweet, sweet bayonet that seems to increase melee damage.
It's certainly not the worst weapon in the game.
I worked as creative lead for a moderately-sized game once, and details like this were usually included not because I planned for them in the animation document, but because someone had a little extra time and wanted to do something neat.
It's a sign of a healthy working environment, when people feel like they can add creative flourishes like that!
I wonder how they make money because as far as i see, they only make once when we purchase the game, people rarely buy SC though
@@doumoa7881 You'd be surprised how many people probably buy SC. There are a lot of people that only have a small amount of play time, and to them farming up SC wouldn't be something they'd have time to do. Dropping $10 a month is virtually nothing compared to the added fun they get, so they'd do it in a heartbeat.
Source: every person who has ever defended a p2w or pay to save time mechanic, ever.
@@doumoa7881Think they have a deal with Sony to make money, plus you have to buy the game to begin with. It’s probably Sony though.
I’ve heard many people declare this “a melee weapon with a gun attached,” but ironically that’s really what the first rifles were; muskets comes to mind here.
Even earlier they had started to make matchlock interiors onto common melee weapons for the battlefield. The arms portion of the museum in versailles has some great examples on display
Redditors are not people
Railgun is still far more like a musket to me than the Constitution
@JC-eo2qe lmao no please I am begging you not to read reddit any more.
Bayonettes were invented by the Bayon in France in 1660ish. They basically tied hunting knives on thier rifles to use whne munitions were low.
Muskets go back 150+ years before that, to Arbusquieres, which didn't have a fixed blade, and we're intended for battlements use. Lmao do you honestly think guns were just one day added onto spears and pikes and Bill hooks as a secondary one- use weapon????? Lmao, early muskets weighed dozens of pounds, we're expensive and could explode if you damaged the barrel, you would never use one as a melee weapon. Infantry platoons using muskets as a primary fighting tool would carry two, or have a stack of loaded ones at their entrenched position, or would March, fire, reload in waves of Infantry for overlapping fire.
This is the most basic facts of the history of warfare. I have no idea where you would find such misinformation or why you would share it so freely but please for the love of God read one book about the advancement and origins of the rifle. Early rifles were downsized cannons, fired from shoulder or wall, not spears/swords with a gun attachment. Lmao bruh moment
@@matthewdeklerk3457 Being condescending doesn't help when trying to enlighten someone. And while OP may not be accurate he's on the right track. Your history is too European minded. Some of the first firearms were literally attached to spears in 10th century China. see: Firelances.
The level of detail they put into the game is actually amazing
Level of detail doesn’t matter when no one will be using the gun in a week because it’s time to kill is atrocious.
@@theopenmindedtruthseeker9747 someone doesn’t like having fun
@@theopenmindedtruthseeker9747 A bit of an ironic comment for your username, dontchya think?
@@theopenmindedtruthseeker9747Not very open minded of you
@@theopenmindedtruthseeker9747 not very open-minded I see
Other info the Constitution has double the melee and eleven time the durable damage of normal attacks, further buffed with the armor perk for both values
Oh I was actually wondering if it actually did more damage, or just had a cool stabby animation. Has that actually been tested/data-mined?
Man that animation is just smooth also you can't go wrong with the classic bolt action rifle nice. 😎👍
Pair the constitution with a viper commando armor and the bayonet becomes surprisingly good
That's three times the usual melee damage. It is absolutely heavenly to play against bugs with a shield generator with vitality perk. Being able to charge into a horde and stabbing 20 bugs to death before retreating (mostly) unscathed is fucking awesome lol
I kinda wish the new armor's passive was the melee one but I can't complain about democracy protects
@@kebabdefender49"NONE OF YOU SEEM TO UNDERSTAND, IM NOT TRAPPED IN HERE WITH YOU. YOURE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME"
We need a Democracy Protects set for heavy and light armors.
@@kebabdefender49depends what you define as hoard, if you were anything over difficulty 7 doing what you're saying will get you killed.
imagine if they stared adding bayonets to more guns, would be sick.
I want a throwable shovel first.
@@RobinCernyMitSuffix it wouldn't be like the knives, you would just throw and them be able to pick it up again, give it like medium pen but if you throw it against heavy armor it ricochets into another enemy
I could see them doing it to the rest of the marksman rifles and maybe smg’s.
A bayonet charge if you were sprinting would be sweet as well.
have requisition be the currency for weapon attachments . modding system. bayonet : -1% movespeed, +150 melee damage, +1 more spread. lasers, fore grips, stocks, sights, 1x, 2x, 4x, 8-16x variable zoom, flashlight, grips, slings, rifle wraps, barrel variations, mag variants.
If only...
I wish the thing actually hit like a 30-06 and hell, honestly, give it heavy armor pen. Right now it's a meme weapon. A pretty, really well animated meme weapon, and kinda fun to roleplay a trench cleaning run on low difficulty bots, but a meme weapon at the end of the day
her to having hope for a British brodie style helmet.
That's the point. It's a meme weapon you take to meme around. You seriously want a primitive bolt-action rifle using an obsolete round to compete with guns made a couple centuries in the future?
I mean if they wanted to balance it I would put it as a secondary weapon, I feel like it would be perfect
I like the idea, but nah, let it stay as a ceremonial weapon, doesn’t need to be anything more
@@ferdinand5223 yes because in the first game it was actually really good. a meme gun does not deserve to be bad in comparison to other weapons, I don't think it needs to break heavy armor, but I would like for it to hit fairly hard. every weapon in this game should have a confertable gameplay loop that works around that weapon. meme or not
Man penny pinchers in the future, they couldn’t even give us a dammed stripe clip!
The senator didn't have speed loaders straight away maybe they will come later.
We’re lucky we got a speed loader with the senator
It didn't had stripe clips in the first game neither, you spammed the reload key to reload it on your own speed. Potentially reloading it insanely fast if your fingers were able to press the said button quickly.
i can see someone trying to pick a melee fight with a stalker...it will not end well
Bet 😎😂
It will not end well... for the stalker!
Shield pack, peak physic armor perk for extra damage and sheer dodging tech. I already tried this. Yes I was stupid enough to try. It works.
Already picked a fight with a pair of berserkers using the melee, I somehow lived and won
@@epgamer1145 Based beyond belief
“I own a musket for home defense as super earth intended”….
This weapon is probably a good prototype for the weapon customisation they're adding in the future.
Battlefield 1 had the same differentiated partial reload animations on all their weapons (including all bolt-action rifles) way back in 2016.
Its truly the best BF entry in recent history.
Lol yeah I instantly thought of bf1 when I was using the gun in first person.
BF1 is one of the best game i have ever played in 20 years, i was not a big fan of BF franchise before but BF1 hit different
I personally would argue it's the best battlefield made. Though I know some won't agree because they like the modern time period of bf3 and bf4.
finally.
I can finish my Death Korps of Krieg cosplay
К сожалению ещё не хватает саперной лопатки обмотанной колючей проволокой
I remember using this weapon in Helldivers (2015) and just getting swarmed by the Cyborg dogs.
Never used it again until today and the same thing happened 💀
History repeats itself huh? 😂😅
NOOOOO THIS GUN IS WEAK AND NEEDS MORE DAMAGE AND HEAVY ARMOUR PEN TO BE USEABLE!!!!!!111
@@ferdinand5223 bayonet go stab
@@ferdinand5223 I mean its a medal, a symbol, not a weapon, if they really wanted to balance it I would make it a secondary, but im fine as it is because its suppose to be a meme weapon
@@Flameshot_ I was trying to ape the smoothbrains who wanted to buff a meme weapon because they couldn't kill stuff with it as quickly as they would have with real primary weapons.
Most people's first thought, give us a full reload clip.
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
When I get back home that's going to be my main weapon
Someone has to uphold the Constitution!
If you have to reload all 5 rounds AH should add a stripper clip so it saves time. Similar to the Senators speed loader.
First thing I noticed was the 1st person arm model on the right side not fully being there upon pulling the bolt back each time.
would be neat if they added a stripper clip animation to fully empty.
You actually charge forward a small distance when using the bayonet at "critical range". You'll notice your character lunge forward if you're about 2-3 full steps away and are pre aiming your melee at a weak point.
@@Sinner_Sanctified_in_hashtag That's actually really cool. Considering this is one of the only real melee weapons in the game, there's no doubt that the intention is to enable melee attacks to a better standard.
The feeling of the constitution is very great but he clearly need more damage
More damage and make it armor level five like the senator
Oh yeah, and add a stripper clip for empty reload
It's technically not supposed to be great lol it's just like giving your child a Daisy Red Rider for their birthday.
@@Animefanboy4lifeThat’s stupid. It’s a complete waste of time putting this amount of recourses into something that people will only use for a few days then forget.
@@Animefanboy4life it wouldn’t be great, but it would be better. I agree with it having just five rounds that would make it not the best weapon, but a damage buff with make it much comfortable to use and maybe a higher armor pen make it like a senator primary. It’s not OP it’s just a gimmick weapon
the old stuff. godt i love when they give us stuff i recognise from the old game. i loved the constitution... i wish we could have bayonets on all our weapons. i miss that feature
Yeah, I love getting into melee. I miss having bayonets on half of my arsenal lol
Heavy armor pen, 220 damage, and stripper clips are all I want, for this rifle.
Theres something hilarious about running around the galaxy fighting robots and bugs with a ww2 weapon and just barely squeeking out of certain death situations
Taking the first baby steps towards melee combat. Been using it with the PH-56 Jaguar Armor, the 50% more melee dmg make this thing not bad at all.
Nice to see the Helldivers 1 Set in as a pleasant little nostalga piece, let alone more examples of them continuously making good weapon animations.
'Bayonet' should be a Weapon Trait that greatly increases melee damage. And they should add more guns/alter existing guns to have bayonets, so people have more options when their ammo's out and they need to deal with the bots/bugs swarming them right this second.
Would’ve been cool we got an actual bayonet charge but super happy we got a unique weapon like this
Hey man! I appreciate the time you take making these explainer videos of further details into Helldivers 2. It's reminiscent of Zullie the Witch videos!
I wish the constitution made the M1 Garand ping when you completely empty it though ;_;
might have to take a break from serving the emperor to serve managed democracy
That weapon needs:
- 250 damage
- Heavy Penetration
- Stripped Reload
Yes this is exactly what I want or just med pen but 350 damage with stripper clip. Any of those work for me.
Thank you, I did not notice that! Just wish they gave it heavy armor pen. In all but total ammo capacity this thing is putclassed by the senator for crying out loud.
finally, i can WW1 larp with bayonet, orbital gas strike, and 120mm+380mm orbital bombardment
Now we need attachments like suppressors and we can actually have cool stealth builds
Trenchdivers gonna love this
I get the impression that these "helldivers" are actually pretty damn skilled sometimes.
I half expected this video to start with, "THIS is Jonathan Ferguson..."
I like the new armour, its a fairly accurate recreation of the armour in helldivers 1, its just the shoulder pads are a bit different.
Finally i can play as the death korps of krieg
When this game came out I played it everyday for 3 months until they began their nerfing campaign, which ruined the fun for me. But since the new update, I'm right back in there, and the game is even more fun than before.
Constitution + senator + break action shotgun is going in battle as a space cowboy
they made helldivers great again
I haven’t seen such attention to detail when it comes to how firearms actually work since Hunt Showdown.
Add jumppack and any peak physique armor and you will get the space barbarian
The love and dedication to this game gives me hope for future games
Now we can really be like Kriegs soldiers, fix bayonet and charge into the ennemy while there is an artillery barrage on going 👌
Btw. melee have medium pen and works on hive guards :D
Arrowhead has such an amazing attention to detail I love it. Clearly their weapons design and animation team is filled with firearms enthusiasts.
I think we have to realize that Helldivers are actually really intelligent if we do side by side comparisons with Venom snake the average helldiver is on par with the greatest soldier
Back in the Helldivers 1, they were used to be picked amongst the SEAF's best soldiers and veterans. I don't know why they choose to portray them as brainwashed college kids in the second game.
My beloved from HD1
Those cheeky swedes, and their attention to detail. lol
Does the Bayonet give a secret Melee damage boost? Or is it more of a Speical Animation then anything else. Because I'd like to know due to the fact of also adding the Peek Armor buff that gives 50% More melee damage
It's the Same melee as standard, total bummer
Considering its a ceremonial rifle, I guess it kind of makes sense that it is on tne weaker side. I think it is supposed to be a more common gun than the standard liberator and is likely more akin to the double barrel shotgun.
Good eye. I like seeing all the intricacies you discover in this game. Some passionate devs involved for sure.
Also, watching your videos is worth it just to hear "Peril". Halo 2 had some awesome tracks.
Two things it needs:
Stripper Clip reload on empty mag and a damage boost of 20+, making it total at 200 damage. That's it.
Love the attention to detail. I want some dedicated melee weapons now, which give different buffs or abilities.
I love how the bullets just come out of your hand, like you have a bullet dispenser built into your wrist.
New favorite primary too, absolutely love this thing.
Two questions:
1. Does the bayonet offer any additional damage to melee attacks?
2. If yes to the above, does it stack with the damage boost from the Peak Physique armour passive?
yes and yes
@@doctorhealsgood5456Hell
And a Yeah brother
with peak physique you can take down scout striders 3-5 melees, and tanks in like, 30-40.
And on top of all the above, the shots will penetrate through regular troopers so if you line up your shots right you can get 2-for-1's with relative ease
My friend “volunteered” for this job and I found that it does way more damage with peak physique
My only complaints are the rifle isn’t loaded via a charger/clip when fully empty and that the bayonet isn’t longer 😂 other than that it’s pretty awesome
Would be really nice if it was heavy armour pen as well
Seeing as it’s pretty much either a niche or meme gun otherwise
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
@@kebabdefender49 I never played the first HD so it’s good to hear a little backstory from its first appearance
Thanks!
@@corditesniffer8020 No problem friend, I hope you can enjoy the Constitution as much as I do! It's always a treat to have bolt action rifles in a shooter game no matter what genre it is!
our first step of getting a true melee option in the game. the gun is much to be desired with how slow and low damage but it helps me remember all those brave souls who fought in the first war
This just makes me want a full first-person mode even more where you don't have to be aiming down sights for it. Reload animations are by far the hardest part to implement in first-person, and those are already done. It probably will never happen, but I can dream.
Helldivers deserves a big budget campaign mode, like Halo games.
Unironically my new favorite weapon. Forming firing lines and bayonetting enemies for the glory of Super Earth.
I SWEAR Helldivers have more than 20 minutes of training. Arrowhead PLEASE MAKE THIS CANON AND TELL ME THE 20 MINUTES THING WAS A JOKE
It's obvious that they have more than 20 minutes of training, and this time has never been canonized anywhere, it's just a joke/bad argument from some people outside and inside the community.
Now I just need a long coat and my Death Korps of Krieg cosplay will be complete
Every sharpshooter who likes to play bolt action: "Omega heavy breathing"
I actually noticed that whenever I was crouched and melee with the Constitution, it actually lunges me forward with some momentum.
Maybe there's some gameplay technique/use for that?
Told ya just be patient
Man this weapon is a funny weapon to use with the bayonet. Though I wonder if AH is also hinting a melee based gun in the future. Who knows, silly stuff like this is always welcome in my book
There is so much love put in this game
Spent my time during Liberty Day unlocking every achievement. I saved the best for last. Equiping a new cape.
alternate melee idea: Hold the melee button to "ready" your melee attack, granting you increased sprinting speed. If you're sprinting when you strike, you deal double damage, but have a longer recovery (this is to incentivize rushing in for an attack, but disincentivize using it as a mobility option, as if you get caught with your pants down, you'll have to go through a long melee animation before you can retaliate. An extra system will need to be put into place to prevent a diver from swapping weapons or attacking while melee attacking). However, if you are not sprinting, you will instead guard against incoming melee attacks. It won't negate damage, but it'll eat up stamina and decrease damage received by, say 60/80% if you have stamina, and 20/40% if you don't have stamina.
Of course, with melee combat you could go just about anywhere (just look at games like Mordhau and it's insane complex melee system), This is just an idea I had on the spot. Since melee is just one button press, I thought a little extra complexity could be added onto it to make it a bit more viable. That being said, as a PC player, I have no idea how ergonomic this would be on controller.
With how complicated shooting a gun is in this game, it's a shame that melee isn't given more love. It's surprisingly viable if you get the first hit in, you stunlock just about anything the size of a devastator. There are many times I've wanted to run up to a bot or bug and just smash its face in, only to have to hit them like 8 times and then get swarmed because I took too long to kill them and got surrounded. I think being in melee should be a death sentence, both for you and for the enemies of democracy. Of course, the terminids are already melee-focused, but dives spend most of their time making space and shooting them anyways, and I don't think having a slightly more advanced melee system would be a huge detriment, especially if you can only really hit one or two enemies at a time in a horde shooter.
My friend and I unironically live this gun, we agree it also just needs a 1-2x scope and it’s good
This game is so realistic I'm so surprised
Incredibly fucking based addition. My team suffered zero losses just from taking this into battle and i cannot wait to pair this with jungle armor tomorrow and go absolutely sly marbo on democracy's enemies
It's dope, wonder why we dont use a stripper clip on empty though
But they didn't add a stripper clip animation, even though the system already exists for the revolver's speed loader...
I’m sure that I’d enough of us military surplus autists complain about it they will add it pretty quickly
Hopefully quicker than the speed leader for the Senator
M2016 Constitution is mostly the same in Helldivers 1, but you used to mash the reload key to insert individual bullets, potentially allowing you to reload the entire rifle in 1 or 2 seconds. Making it an unique weapon which was either loved by people with fast fingers or hated by those who didn't wanted to mash their keyboards/controllers.
@@kebabdefender49but you cannot smash on this game
@WindowsDoor Yeah. His point is more that they're trying to stay true to the gun's original styling, even despite mechanical changes.
I mean, it makes sense.
All Helldivers were given one at the age of 16 to encourage enlistment, ofc they'd know how to operate it intuitively like this
That melee must be awesome with the peak physique passive
Ah, I remember turning 16…
I knew I recognized that music from somewhere. Classic.
The sound design on this weapon is just, perfection.
I absolutely adore this gun, and not just for the bayonet. I have no clue why, but while all the other marksman rifles act like they're smoothbore for me, this beautiful, glorious, patriot of a rifle feels so, so accurate, like the bullets track whatever I'm shooting at half the time. I even keep headshotting Devastators like crazy, I can almost never do that with the snipers! Is it the best? Probably not. Is it my new favorite? Absolutely, right up there next to the Blitzer.
So that's how grandpa was kicking ass in the first galactic war
Honestly it does surprise me how realistic they make the weapon operation in Helldivers, like discarding whole mags and such. Unnecessary given the tone/type of game but I love it.
Now give us a caplock with breach-loading and percussion caps.
The melee is the best option so far. If you wear the viper commando set (buffs melee damage) you can kill hunters in 2 hits which is faster than reloading
Jonathan Ferguson's gonna LOVE this one
i saw a bethesda gun animation video...thank liberty for the helldiver gun design team...they are gods
Tat's cool detail, but the charge magically appears in his hand is cool too
This kinda remind me of Battlefield 1 Devs. You know, one of the greatest Battlefield games.
One thing I noticed was that sadly, the bayonet gets less stagger than a normal smack. Sounds weird, but its true. When getting charged by a Brood Commander, you can smack it right before it hits you and stop the charge. Unfortunately, when you do this with the bayonet, it doesn't stop the charge. It'll still damage it, so you know you timed it right, but it will charge straight through and still knock you down.