TBH: Is that a 'trick question' ??? We only got to see ONE 'Pie & Mash', the other being a 'Pie & (chunky, wedgie, unskinned, type) Chips' - DUH! Anyway, I must say that I prefered the ONE with the 'chips' - So the oldest pub wins - BUT they could 'up their image' by offering 'MUSHY PEAS with a hint of mint' - Just saying. 😃
I don't eat Beef,Lamb or Pork,but a Chicken or Fish version of the first wld be great..The seond Pie looked a bit french style&over elaborate but did appear to have really good quality about it! But over all both were well cooked& presented! So i think the first one had the right idea,with it's more traditional approach!.
I preferred the first one, you seemed to get a lot more and it was well presented and also looked lovely. I didn't like how the second one was presented, if you'd separated it there wasn't as much as the first one. I did like the pastry on the second one
That's not the type of Pie & Mash with parsley liquor that you can get in London and the working classes lived on in decades past (the restaurants also sold jellied eels) that I was expecting. 😅 Both venues looked interesting with the 300 y.o. pub having classic ceramic tiles that once every high class pub had. It looks in splendid condition. But I have to agree, the Botanist had real pie and mash with a modern twist, and served it up beautifully. You know how to live! 😎
LIQUOR MADE FROM THE EE LS THAT THEY COOKED THEM IN BROUGHT UP ON IT AS A CHILD IN HACKNEY 6 OLD PENCE 1 PIE AND MASH 2 1/2 PENCE MOST HAVE CLOSED NOW COOKES WAS A BIG ONE LONDON FIELDS GONE NOW PITY
I love seeing your channel grow. It's a great format and you're honest which is refreshing. Can easily see this channel being over 50 thousand subs once the year ends.
I prefered the first pie in the bake tin. It looked like you really got your money's worth of chunky steak filling. I also liked the look of those Seasonal vegetables... Pity I'm in London, as watching this I craved that meal and would have 'popped' out to visit when the pub was next open - LOL!
Wow, both pubs looked really nice. The first pie looked really nice - maybe a bit run of the mill. Second pie looked more thought about and a really yummy little creation. Hope you had a really nice day! 🍲🎆
Both looked very good! Prefer to have trio of mashed swede/parsnip/carrot and creamed with butter or single cream and milk [or why not a little of the three!], mashed potato and garden peas with the pie. Looks like best part of £20 is the going rate these days for a pub meal. What's on the menu next?
Nice change of review. Both looked nice, I'm sure the old place would have given mash instead of chips for a proper comparison. 8:40 The new place stated it was champ mash on the menu, so this has spring onions incorporated. Newer pub also seemed a better ambience and character somehow.
Chips and veg at the first one, pie at the second one. I’m from Wigan and a proper pie has pastry on all sides unlike the first pie. Excellent video as always, you looked like this was your favourite challenge so far!
First one for me. The veg looked great along with chunks of steak. Chips didn't look much though. That second one was stacked and looked like a 7 year old had presented it. By the look though, the second on used suet in the pie case which was a bonus :)
Id love to see more pie's! There's a lot to cover when it comes to pie's, how about starting on the high street with Gregg's vr's some of the other pie shop's we can find on the high st then move on to pubs.
I preferred the first pie.👌👌. I'm sure if asked they would have had mash. Also as it came in the dish, you knew it was home cooked. The amount of beef steak was huge and the added veg was a nice touch. The second pie didn't appeal to me at all. Yes it came with mushy peas and mash, but as someone commented, it was more champ than mash. And to be honest the pie itself did look as may have been store bought. In my younger days I ran pubs all over and I would never serve anything that I personally didn't cook from scratch. My menu usually changed every two days and wasn't very large in content. My way of looking at menus is this. If you go into a pub or a take-away and they have a menu as long as your arm, you are very liable to get a microwave meal because it's too costly to hold a lot of fresh products. That's OK if that is what you expect and we paying £5.50 or so. But if you are paying £18.00 or more? I would want my customers to know they are getting quality food.
Excellent vlog, always enjoy them, it looks a nice meal, and a nice place. It would be better if the chips had been peeled, and a choice of mash, but like the veg and super classy to have a gravy boat. Both had a gravy boat, I hope thats a new trend and continues. Really very good. I am a fan of British food, both were very good. Well done, many thanks.
@@everydayimeating3407 It's one of the best little Cheats I have come across in all my years of cooking with potato. It means you don't need to season it with salt extra bonus ok the Oxo is not much better I suppose but the colour at the end is like how mothers use to make homemade chips in a old chippan.
Both looked nice to me, but I clicked to watch eagerly expecting some good old East End Pie & Mash with Liquor!! I quite fancy a plate full of that now - where’s my nearest pie & mash shop?? 🤔 😂😂
The first one...Chips are meant to be crispy though. I think they fried, then put them inder heat lamp to keep warm and it went soggy. Sad there wasn't an option to swap out sides. Pastry looked lovely though. 2nd place, oh no. Stingy size, gravy, pie and hard mash? 1990s stack presentation. Some one here, said it was Pretentious. Absolutely agree. Pie n Mash is supposed to be generous, warmth and comfort.. be Gordon Ramsey all you want.. but thats not on this plate. 1st one, comez first imho.
When we went to London in 1996, we didn't think to try local foods. We were young. If I go back, I will look for English foods. We eat walkers shortbread in usa. I'm not sure if British.
I thought the 1st one was a better value due to the aize, but the 2nd one did look tastier. I wonder if you can request the pie without the cheese (for those who are dairy intolerant).
The first pie with chips looked amazing. Those chips looked outstanding as did the whole meal. The pie itself was packed with beef, but needed more gravy, i just love it all over the meal. The second meal looked nice, but cannot match the first one.
Thanks 😀 I've been thinking about doing some more of those, but they don't seem to do as well as the food ones but I may try a couple to see how they go
I enjoy them all but when I joined the channel the 1st videos I watched was the £50 but all videos am great hope the 10k and beyond subscribers happens quickly
I know what they've tried to do regards the second one .. but the pie is the star and l think it would look even better with the peas in a side dish not on top . I don't eat beef so I'm imagining they were both chicken ...then I'd go for the second one but only with the pie on top.. peas on the side
The first one wasn't a pie, the meat looked grey and could do with more gravy in the pie. The second looked more appetising and would be my choice once deconstructed.
My type of comfort food, steak pie and chips. So the first oldie Worldwide venue did it for me. The modern eatery the presentation very nice but Stilton in the pie not for me, but that's just personal taste. Hence if I was in Leeds, I'd head for first venue for the pie and chips. Even better if kidney included.
The first one wasn't a pie, a pie has got to have pastry all the way round not just a poor excuse of a bit on the top. Therefore by default the second one wins.
It is hard to guess without tasting it, I don't like things cooked with mint, so no mushy peas, besides I like early harvest new peas fresh and green, not starchy at all. Either of the potatoes look very tasty. I quite like the look of the veg. and the pie...probably the big one, with the larger pieces or beef. so a combo.
Which Pie & Mash did you prefer?
Comment below 😀
Oldest pub for me👍
TBH: Is that a 'trick question' ??? We only got to see ONE 'Pie & Mash', the other being a 'Pie & (chunky, wedgie, unskinned, type) Chips' - DUH! Anyway, I must say that I prefered the ONE with the 'chips' - So the oldest pub wins - BUT they could 'up their image' by offering 'MUSHY PEAS with a hint of mint' - Just saying. 😃
Try Manzies on Tower Bridge Road
This idiot has no personality at all!
I don't eat Beef,Lamb or Pork,but a Chicken or Fish version of the first wld be great..The seond Pie looked a bit french style&over elaborate but did appear to have really good quality about it! But over all both were well cooked& presented! So i think the first one had the right idea,with it's more traditional approach!.
I preferred the first one, you seemed to get a lot more and it was well presented and also looked lovely. I didn't like how the second one was presented, if you'd separated it there wasn't as much as the first one. I did like the pastry on the second one
The pastry on the second one was one of the best things
The second one is so bloody pretentious its unreal 😂 give me a normal steak pie anyday.
Hate pretentious looking shite, always totally starving after. 😂
That's gastro pub food. A cut above the normal pub.
That's not the type of Pie & Mash with parsley liquor that you can get in London and the working classes lived on in decades past (the restaurants also sold jellied eels) that I was expecting. 😅 Both venues looked interesting with the 300 y.o. pub having classic ceramic tiles that once every high class pub had. It looks in splendid condition. But I have to agree, the Botanist had real pie and mash with a modern twist, and served it up beautifully. You know how to live! 😎
I will have to head down to London in the future to try out the pie and mash there
@@everydayimeating3407 ...it's shit 🤣
That parsley liquor looks awful
@@jogon331 You tell 'em James! Insulting our grub! David Beckham loves it. Who puts potatoes in a pie? Northerners! 🤣
LIQUOR MADE FROM THE EE LS THAT THEY COOKED THEM IN BROUGHT UP ON IT AS A CHILD IN HACKNEY
6 OLD PENCE 1 PIE AND MASH 2 1/2 PENCE MOST HAVE CLOSED NOW COOKES WAS A BIG ONE LONDON FIELDS GONE NOW PITY
I love seeing your channel grow. It's a great format and you're honest which is refreshing. Can easily see this channel being over 50 thousand subs once the year ends.
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It's so nice to finally see someone appreciating English cuisine. Thank you.
I prefered the first pie in the bake tin. It looked like you really got your money's worth of chunky steak filling. I also liked the look of those Seasonal vegetables... Pity I'm in London, as watching this I craved that meal and would have 'popped' out to visit when the pub was next open - LOL!
The portions were big at the first place, you definitely get your moneys worth
Wow, both pubs looked really nice. The first pie looked really nice - maybe a bit run of the mill. Second pie looked more thought about and a really yummy little creation. Hope you had a really nice day! 🍲🎆
I definitely had a great day, what can be better than eating 2 delicious pie and mash lol
Best reviews I've seen. Thank you
Not to boring and very detailed. Brilliant please keep going.
Thanks, will do! 😀
Both looked very good! Prefer to have trio of mashed swede/parsnip/carrot and creamed with butter or single cream and milk [or why not a little of the three!], mashed potato and garden peas with the pie. Looks like best part of £20 is the going rate these days for a pub meal. What's on the menu next?
You'll have to wait and see 😀
Cant beat pie mash and gravy both looked delicious but for me the 1st one wins the chunks of steak looked delicious
They did have the bigger chunks of beef and you got bigger portions too
Brilliant review. Pie, mash and gravy or chips my absolute favourite. I'm starving now. Well done that was so good, keep up the great work 👍
Thank you! Will do! 😀 Pie, mash and gravy is a great meal
I prefer the first one food looked really delicious
Its a great old pub the first one
Congrats on 5k subs. Well done.
Thanks 😀
Nice change of review. Both looked nice, I'm sure the old place would have given mash instead of chips for a proper comparison. 8:40 The new place stated it was champ mash on the menu, so this has spring onions incorporated. Newer pub also seemed a better ambience and character somehow.
I asked for mash at the older place but they don't serve mash there 😞 the chips were good though
This isn’t even a comparison… Turk’s Head everyday!
The oldest pub looks awesome😍
今回の動画も食べ方のマナーが上品で、見てて心地よかった😊✨
食べ方綺麗な紳士は素晴らしい✨
Pie 'n' mash (or chips) is a poor mans meal but 18 quid!?! Great review.
It's a hard one for me...I love my pies... But the first one for me I think 🤔😊
They were both really good, so it is a tough choice
Chips and veg at the first one, pie at the second one. I’m from Wigan and a proper pie has pastry on all sides unlike the first pie. Excellent video as always, you looked like this was your favourite challenge so far!
Thats a good compromise 😀 It was a great challenge, i definitely enjoyed it
@@everydayimeating3407 You now need to find a 55 year old pub for the perfect combination 😉
There is a Botanist in Warrington
@@lesleyfarrington4809 Thank you! I remember seeing one in Brighton many years ago and it looked really exotic!
Pie & Mash is an East End of London thing, and is served with Liquor (a parsley sauce made with the stock from cooking eels)
I will have to go to London and try it 😀
I love beef & ale pie....but this one is a casserole with a pastry topping! A proper pie is enclosed in pastry...don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
I might start a "What baked beans channel"... stay tuned
I thought they both looked class!! Good video ….Smithy
They were both really good pies, I wouldn't say no to either
Both looked nice, but I prefer mash with pie, so that one wins for me. Thanks for another great vlog xx
Thanks 😀
First one made my mouth water too looks well tasty 🤤😋😁
The pastry was really good on the first one
Hi, like your meal reviews.have you done a carvery one yet a meal I really enjoy.
I had the breakfast buffet from there in a previous video 😀 check it out and let me know what you think
The first one looked the best.
It was a big pie!
I think I would like the first one better, it was more along the lines of comfort food ❤
First one for me. The veg looked great along with chunks of steak. Chips didn't look much though. That second one was stacked and looked like a 7 year old had presented it. By the look though, the second on used suet in the pie case which was a bonus :)
Id love to see more pie's! There's a lot to cover when it comes to pie's, how about starting on the high street with Gregg's vr's some of the other pie shop's we can find on the high st then move on to pubs.
Good idea
They both looked tasty but I agree with you the steak and stilton, my kind of day eating a good pie!! Hope you had a dessert after! Great video.
I was too full for a dessert lol
I preferred the first pie.👌👌. I'm sure if asked they would have had mash. Also as it came in the dish, you knew it was home cooked. The amount of beef steak was huge and the added veg was a nice touch. The second pie didn't appeal to me at all. Yes it came with mushy peas and mash, but as someone commented, it was more champ than mash. And to be honest the pie itself did look as may have been store bought. In my younger days I ran pubs all over and I would never serve anything that I personally didn't cook from scratch. My menu usually changed every two days and wasn't very large in content. My way of looking at menus is this. If you go into a pub or a take-away and they have a menu as long as your arm, you are very liable to get a microwave meal because it's too costly to hold a lot of fresh products. That's OK if that is what you expect and we paying £5.50 or so. But if you are paying £18.00 or more? I would want my customers to know they are getting quality food.
I prefer the look of the first one .. but as I am from Wigan I wouldn’t turn any pie down 😂
I wouldn't turn either of these down lol
Excellent vlog, always enjoy them, it looks a nice meal, and a nice place. It would be better if the chips had been peeled, and a choice of mash, but like the veg and super classy to have a gravy boat. Both had a gravy boat, I hope thats a new trend and continues. Really very good. I am a fan of British food, both were very good. Well done, many thanks.
Thanks 😀
The first pie 🥧 gets my vote
Its a good pie
I used to drink in that pub as a student at Leeds Uni in late 60's
Its a great pub
First pie definitely. Just the daft presentation on the second one was enough to put me off.
Looked ok but I prefer the Steak pie, chips or mash and three veg in the café under Shipley indoor market, cost £7:50.
Thats a great price!
The first one for me looked the best and the best value😊
Handcut homemade Oven chips are unbelievable. A little season of Oxo cube over the top of them make them outstanding.
They sound like some good chips!
@@everydayimeating3407 It's one of the best little Cheats I have come across in all my years of cooking with potato. It means you don't need to season it with salt extra bonus ok the Oxo is not much better I suppose but the colour at the end is like how mothers use to make homemade chips in a old chippan.
I agree with you. The whole combo had my mouth watering 😊
Really wow u mean him pouring the gravy on it instead of it going up u like u know 😅😅😅
Combo bites are the best 😋
As i don't like Stilton i liked the first one. Yes more gravy but in general both look good.
They were both great, its hard to pick between the 2
That first one is a stew with a ' hat' on.
My only problem with Whitelock’s is the card only policy. People should have the option to pay with cash if they want to.
The first pub meal is the best one. xx
Its a good heart meal the first one
I thought the meat looked a lot better quality in the 300 year old pub. Would have preferred mash with it though 😊
I would have preferred mash too
I like mash but I prefer a lot of vegetables on my plate with the pie so it’s got to be the 1st dish for me
Both looked nice to me, but I clicked to watch eagerly expecting some good old East End Pie & Mash with Liquor!! I quite fancy a plate full of that now - where’s my nearest pie & mash shop?? 🤔 😂😂
Let me know if its good and if I should come and check it out 😀
The first one...Chips are meant to be crispy though. I think they fried, then put them inder heat lamp to keep warm and it went soggy. Sad there wasn't an option to swap out sides. Pastry looked lovely though. 2nd place, oh no. Stingy size, gravy, pie and hard mash? 1990s stack presentation. Some one here, said it was Pretentious. Absolutely agree. Pie n Mash is supposed to be generous, warmth and comfort.. be Gordon Ramsey all you want.. but thats not on this plate. 1st one, comez first imho.
When we went to London in 1996, we didn't think to try local foods. We were young.
If I go back, I will look for English foods.
We eat walkers shortbread in usa. I'm not sure if British.
I thought the 1st one was a better value due to the aize, but the 2nd one did look tastier. I wonder if you can request the pie without the cheese (for those who are dairy intolerant).
Both looked good but imo the peas on top of the pie would leave pastry quite soggy...
Both look great but for me the 2nd 1 🥧 enjoy your day ❤️
The second one, well presented,,
Shame the first one didn’t have a pastry base,But it made up for that through the sheer size of it,so it’s the first one for me.
Both were different
But for me the newest pub with mash on bottom /pie in middle peas on top
I agree, it tasted slightly better too
Whitelocks is a cracking pub, tasty food & good atmosphere 😊
I agree 😀 it is
The first pie with chips looked amazing. Those chips looked outstanding as did the whole meal. The pie itself was packed with beef, but needed more gravy, i just love it all over the meal. The second meal looked nice, but cannot match the first one.
The first pie was really good, and the portions were great too
This is madness ! My 1st & last comment ...££
They both looked nice....I’d be happy with either one 👍👍
That pie tower is stupid. What’s the point?
Well done on the 5k as well mate is there any £50 challenges in the works mate as they was brilliant
Thanks 😀 I've been thinking about doing some more of those, but they don't seem to do as well as the food ones but I may try a couple to see how they go
I enjoy them all but when I joined the channel the 1st videos I watched was the £50 but all videos am great hope the 10k and beyond subscribers happens quickly
Thanks for watching so long 😀 I really appreciate it
newest pub i think mate, those chips from the oldest one dont look that good i was expecting triple cooked chips for 15 quid lol
Defo the 1st one . I thought both were over priced tho x
It was a little expensive at about £18 a meal for both
Agree. It looked better. Not just artistically, but by the addition of herbs.
It tasted slightly better too, but both were great
@@everydayimeating3407 That's good to know, because we can only go on appearance!
The Botanist looks way better. The another really helpful review, thank you.
It was a good modern twist on pie and mash
I know what they've tried to do regards the second one .. but the pie is the star and l think it would look even better with the peas in a side dish not on top .
I don't eat beef so I'm imagining they were both chicken ...then I'd go for the second one but only with the pie on top.. peas on the side
I'm sure they could change the presentation if asked
Please put the prices in the title.
You would have to eat the chips and veggies 🥦 1st to fit that pie 🥧 on the plate but I would prefer the beef and ale pie from the 300+ year old pub
Its a big pie!
The first one wasn't a pie, the meat looked grey and could do with more gravy in the pie.
The second looked more appetising and would be my choice once deconstructed.
I always ask if can swop chips for mash.and never manage all the pastry.
I always manage the pastry lol
My type of comfort food, steak pie and chips. So the first oldie Worldwide venue did it for me. The modern eatery the presentation very nice but Stilton in the pie not for me, but that's just personal taste. Hence if I was in Leeds, I'd head for first venue for the pie and chips. Even better if kidney included.
Steak and kidney is a great pie!
The first one looks better in my opinion
The pie is absolutely massive and I prefer chips over mash potatoes
The pie was definitely bigger at the first place
The first one wasn't a pie, a pie has got to have pastry all the way round not just a poor excuse of a bit on the top. Therefore by default the second one wins.
The Botanist is a chain, so at least the second is available in a few places
Give it a try if you're near one and let me know what you think
It is hard to guess without tasting it, I don't like things cooked with mint, so no mushy peas, besides I like early harvest new peas fresh and green, not starchy at all. Either of the potatoes look very tasty. I quite like the look of the veg. and the pie...probably the big one, with the larger pieces or beef. so a combo.
First one for couldn't stick all those mushy peas on my pie just put the ingredients on the plate properly it actually i imagine a nice meal.
I would have liked mash to love that king of pie with mash and gravy
chips at the first place looked insanely good
I don't think I've had chips like that before, but they were good
Awesome
A pie lid on its own is not a proper pie, it's a stew with a lid.
Both looked nice but agree with you new one just takes it love stilton in a pie
It just took it for me
A 300 year old pie, man they knew how to make them years ago 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Second one looks good …. Try the hanging kebab there great
I love both of these, but the second one is so unusual, very yummy, new to your channel, what is your name?
Welcome 😀 I don't think I've had pie served like that before but it was great. I'm keeping it for a big reveal 😀
Delicious food
There really were, I enjoyed them both
For me the first place had a better looking meal.
The mushy peas and the hard mash sounds interesting. I don't eat steak.
i would pay 20 sovs for that meal any day (first pub)
Hi think second pub was the best pie think with mint sauce has like much gray then miss Victoria Jane twibell
both looked good but bigger portion for me
Its a really big portion in the older pub
I would probably go with the first one but the newer pub definitely looks great
The older one definitely gave you more for your money, the portions were really big
Whitelocks always a classy pub
I liked it in there, the people who worked there were great too
2ng one looks like a scotch pie
First place for me!
Its a good old pub!
For me the first one isn't a pie it's a stew with a pasty lid on looks nice though
They both looked delicious, but I'd have to give the edge to the newer place. Great review.
I agree! The newer place just took it
Definitely Old👍
Its a great pub
I have literally just watched someone eats a couple of pies.
The first one isn't a pie.The pie has to have pastry top and bottom not just a pastry lid.
Me like more first one 🙂