Using i-Telex on the internet

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @josephgaviota
    @josephgaviota 3 года назад +1

    I just LOVE that old Teletype sound ...
    chug chug chug chank chug chug chank chank chug chug ...

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад +1

      The sounds made is some of the reason I like using them to chat to other users with their own machines.

  • @trainluvr
    @trainluvr 6 лет назад +7

    In the mid 1960s my father was an on-call service technician for the machines that spit out hundreds of thousands of small address labels that were stuck onto the covers of magazines and periodicals, bulk dropped into the mail. I have a dim memory of actually seeing one of these monsters. Imagine a little boy walking around the inside of a laser printer or office copy machine. These telex's remind me of those days. My old man (42 yrs my senior) tried to teach me morse code and ham radio. Yet in his 80s he couldn't figure out that the reason the CD-Rom tray in his desktop tower kept ejecting the shiny discs was because the entire tower was resting on the floor upside down!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад +2

      It is amazing that some cutting edge techs of the past are useless with today’s technology. I know a former Railway’s auto Phone technician who won’t even switch on or touch in any way his wife’s computer, somewhat better than his mechanical typewriter!

  • @tertia0011
    @tertia0011 2 года назад +1

    I am electronics technologist. I worked for Telecom Australia in trunk & private network Telex center in CTO, Melbourne during late 1980's & early 1990's. I have interest in restoring tech of that vintage, but is is next to impossible to find models of machine like Telex 2000. Traces of Telex technology are rarity.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. If you are still in the Melbourne region, a good starting point may be a visit to the Victorian Telecommunications Museum, Burwood Rd Hawthorn. When I visited it in the past, they certainly did have some Sagems on display and I think working. Let me know how you go. www.inspirock.com/australia/hawthorn/victorian-telecommunications-museum-a9402602249
      As for my own teleprinters, they are all still working. Luckily I got a good supply of spare boards for the Sagems and on the rare occasions so far that one has stumbled, I managed to find a substitute good board, so all are in good health now although the power supply modules for the TX35 are more than a challenge.

    • @tertia0011
      @tertia0011 2 года назад

      @@tressteleg1
      I visited Hawthorn Exchange once when it still had an operating step-by-step exchange. I'll go & check out the Museum next time I am in Melbourne. Do you have any technical literature on Telex telegraphy? My notes from the late '80's have long disappeared & I would love to re-acquaint myself with technology from that period.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      It’s a long time since I went to Hawthorn, so I don’t know who goes there now or what they have. There were some former telegraphists but they may have moved on by now.
      As far as I know I have a full set of Sagem technical manuals, both workshop and field I think they are called.
      To talk about this in more detail, it may be better to email me using
      tressteleg(at)icloud.com
      Use the normal symbol instead of (at)

  • @MendItAussie
    @MendItAussie 4 года назад +2

    I remember repairing the Siemens M100 at The Age newspaper. They where used in cold metal typesetting. I was a Linotype Mechanic and I was trained by a Mechanic that migrated to Australia from England.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад

      That is an interesting combination of keyboard technology knowledge! The M 100 was used for some of my conversation with a friend in New Jersey on Tuesday morning and is online 24/7

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota 3 года назад +1

      PS: It was called "cold type" vs "hot type."
      From the Lino's it was "hot type" (obviously, because it was in fact HOT to the touch),
      and "cold type" which was a.k.a. "photocomp" (photo typesetting).
      ... and yes, I was there for the transition ;-)

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад

      The point is that Linotype produced lines of type on ‘slugs’ of hot molten lead, or some similar metal.

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota 3 года назад

      @@tressteleg1 Correct. The metal pot was ≈ 400º, and the slugs were _quite_ hot to the touch.
      The metal was lead, tin, antimony.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад

      Thanks for the extra details. I have my name on a slug, prepared in 1964 at the factory printing the Sydney telephone book.

  • @MLX1401
    @MLX1401 4 года назад +2

    Love the wood-cased telex around 4:15 :DD
    Great video, thanks for including the "how it works"-section to demystify.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад +1

      Meri Lundström That wooden box one is quite a monster! Glad you liked it all. 😊

  • @tressteleg1
    @tressteleg1  9 лет назад +15

    If anyone can get hold of an old Telex Machine/Teleprinter we can help you set it up to work with us.

    • @AurorasPop
      @AurorasPop 5 лет назад +1

      i'm in the process of getting a T100 & a T1000 so all info to get it up and running online is welcome @ info@c41.be

  • @grahamekellermeier8280
    @grahamekellermeier8280 3 месяца назад

    I was preping and refurbishing telex machines back in the 1980s for Telecom.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 месяца назад

      @@grahamekellermeier8280 That would have been interesting, even if the technology did last too much longer. I don’t know how deep your interest is in teleprinters, but maybe you will find something of interest in this playlist.
      Teleprinters - Telex - Telegraphy - Telephones
      ruclips.net/p/PLLtOIHp49XNAKS7BxlbgYN__1xfLSBP75

  • @tressteleg1
    @tressteleg1  8 лет назад +4

    Very Interesting. Thanks. Who in those days could have dreamed that this would eventually become the Internet, with so many fun and important Applications which today we take for granted.

    • @kae4466
      @kae4466 5 лет назад

      i remember seeing a documentary from bell labs on 1960s computers where that at and t had created a network of remote teletypes and one was able to dial from a remote location say phillidelphia usa and use a remote teleprinter to communicate to a computer at another location. the name of the documentary escapes me . 73 de kae4466/kf6uxj.

  • @znentitan4032
    @znentitan4032 4 года назад +1

    That sound, that wonderful sound!

  • @Scriptorsilentum
    @Scriptorsilentum 8 месяцев назад +1

    telex: invented in canada in the 1930s. Coupled with "the original internet" - RAF Fighter Command - speeded communication around the world. could even transmit photographs.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  8 месяцев назад +1

      Whatever you are thinking of, it is not Telex in the normal sense where subscribers (companies) could call another company simply by typing in their Telex numbers and a direct connection was made automatically. That did not come to North America until 1956.

  • @MediaWatchDawg
    @MediaWatchDawg 6 лет назад +3

    Pretty sure they showed one of these (4:22) in David Lynch's "Dune."

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад +1

      Being an American film it is a bit unlikely to have been a Siemens T100, but certainly not impossible because ?Bell introduced Telex to the US in the 1960s using Siemens technology.

  • @newdimension4731
    @newdimension4731 3 года назад +1

    back in school 1976, in 'secretarial courses' we had learn to READ the ribbon with the holes. This generation surely doesn't know about the fast growing of technology from the telex machines, typewritters up to today's computers

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад

      Very interesting thanks. I thought only telegraphists had to learn the ‘5 Unit Code’ punched on the tape.

  • @dontown1531
    @dontown1531 8 лет назад +11

    I first used Internet (then called ARPANET) in 1969 using a TELEX machine & acoustic modem @ my high school communicating with SFU about 10 miles away.

    • @cursed_cats5710
      @cursed_cats5710 4 года назад

      False, no telex machine was ever connected to arpanet and high schools weren't connected either. I also believe that SFU wasn't on the network as well. Plus, there were only four hosts in 1969 - three universities and one research center.

    • @dontown1531
      @dontown1531 4 года назад

      @@cursed_cats5710 It did so happen. I was there. You weren't even born yet .

    • @klaasj7808
      @klaasj7808 4 месяца назад

      @@cursed_cats5710 haha indeed, this dontown guy is talking crap

  • @ColdWarShot
    @ColdWarShot 4 года назад +1

    I’m looking at a teletype machine from the 90s. How to you connect to the computer?

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад

      I doubt if any were made that late. Fax machines had largely killed Telex by then. If you just want to connect it to your own computer, something would probably be worked out after you have a particular machine.

  • @Shipwright1918
    @Shipwright1918 8 лет назад +1

    I'd be interested in doing this, but where exactly does one find a telex machine to begin with nowadays? And what would I need to do to hook the thing up to the internet?
    Always neat to see old machines being put to new uses!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  8 лет назад +1

      Please email me on tressteleg@gmail.com

    • @Scriptorsilentum
      @Scriptorsilentum 8 месяцев назад

      when i was 13 i found one in our cousins' barn. rotary dial, keyboard, all of it.

  • @Pjay444
    @Pjay444 Год назад +1

    What is on the tickertape that also comes out of the telex machine?

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  Год назад +2

      Teleprinters worked on a system where each character was made up of a combination of up to 5 pulses of power or dead sections. In tape form, the hole was the pulse of power and lack of hole was the dead section. These were represented by holes in strips across the tape. 50 holes per second were read. So in fact the paper tape was a primitive memory storage system and once a tape was punched, it could be replayed numerous times to get the same message. If you do a google search for ‘baudot 5 unit code’ it should explain it better.

  • @uomodonore245
    @uomodonore245 3 года назад

    The old fashioned way of texting. So cool!

  • @ZatSoul
    @ZatSoul 4 года назад +2

    I was wondering whats a telex is after i listened to A song called Planet Telex by Radiohead. Thanks for this.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад +2

      I guess that the video helped solve the mystery for you 😊😊. Before the arrival of fax machines, Telex was very important to businesses.

  • @Keithbarber
    @Keithbarber 7 лет назад +5

    it was a good method in its day, but i think email is so much better as you can send pictures and audio files with email, but still an interesting video

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  7 лет назад +3

      +keith barber
      It was ‘cutting edge’ in its day with around 30,000 subscribers in Australia at its peak. For example, most motels had it for guests to book ahead for their next night. They had written proof of their booking and Telex messages had the legal recognition of legal documents.
      It was fax which really killed it as suddenly even the dumbest office girl could send one with almost no training. Telex was more complex.

    • @Keithbarber
      @Keithbarber 7 лет назад +2

      tressteleg1 - and telex still has some use today mainly in Africa and ship to shore communication worldwide I believe - (radio telex?)

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  7 лет назад +1

      +keith barber
      True, probably on both counts. There is no exchange any more in Australia. I think subscribers use one in the UK but there may be others. See my other video ‘Telex Control Desk Sydney 2005’.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад +2

      The few people still using Telex have to go through an exchange in Britain but I don’t know whether they are using Teleprinters or if it is simply something done via the computer.

  • @recephalil5123
    @recephalil5123 4 года назад +3

    I'm a 19 year old college student and I'm in love with these machines,few months ago one of them who once belonged to Telephone Organization of Greece was on sale but it was expensive for me and not it good condition :'( ,I would die to have one :(

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад +2

      Recep Halil Keep a watch on Ebay. I think there are many machines which appear from time to time, but in Germany. Good luck getting one!
      If you have no luck after some weeks, get back to me as I know some Germans with printers.

  • @chrisb5108
    @chrisb5108 2 года назад

    Wow. I used to install and maintain these as an apprentice in the early 80s. Tx35 up to sagem tx20 and 2000.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      Hi, I’m pleased I brought back some memories.
      The 2000 is my favourite machine to use online. It’s simple to use, preparing and saving messages on the memory is easy, and it still works well.
      There is a lady in Brisbane who recently joined the i-Telex network. She has an old Teletype to restore so to get her started I have given her a spare Siemens M100, a Sagem TX 20, (and these both work well on the network) and on Saturday gave her a TX 35E. Unfortunately she is having trouble getting it to work on the system. If you think that you could have some clues about this, maybe you would like to get back to me.

    • @chrisb5108
      @chrisb5108 2 года назад

      @@tressteleg1 Happy to try help. But it has been a long time since I looked at one.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      Thanks for getting back to me. A bit has happened in the meantime. There appears to be a discrepancy with the line voltage output/input which prevents normal operation with i-Telex but will work with a modem Interface I made for use over the phone lines (which is a bit unreliable these days with the VOIP type phone lines). Anyway the lady will bring it back to me Saturday and we will see if changing the Line board (Carte CTR Ligne DC + Filtre, the one with 3 relays) solves the problem as I have a few spares here. If not you may have some hints which could be of use.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      @@chrisb5108 Hi Chris, Just a little update. The lady brought her TX35E here on Saturday and it was not connecting to anything else. After checking that all the parameters agreed with the settings on mine, we changed the Line board with a spare I had. It then worked back to back with my TX35E and other Sagems, as well as i-Telex and other non-Telecom equipment I have made. However there was still an intermittent fault, and replacing the line cord along with the little circuit board which plugs into the rear of the Sagem. It was now fine.
      Unfortunately it still did not work with i-Telex at her home. It appears that the outgoing signal from i-Telex is not strong enough, although it was here. This is odd, as her TX20 seems happy with the weaker signal. There appears to be no way to modify the line signal strength either with Parameters or anything physical. So we are on the point of modifying the i-Telex output, lowering the value of a resistor. Hopefully it will be working fine on i-Telex soon. Richard

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад +1

      Just a final update. It turns out that the sleep current coming from the German design i-Telex electronics was too weak. Although the TX35 E would happily recognise this and go to sleep, for some reason it was too weak to commence a call. So with German guidance, the Brisbane lady reduced the value of the resistor in series with the sleep current supply, and now it calls out without problems. Also yesterday she got going another spare TX35 E although it lacks a print head and VDU screen. There can’t be too many of these still operating in the world.

  • @BlackFlagHeathen
    @BlackFlagHeathen 4 года назад

    Siemens? As in the German train company? The name is familiar to me since my local light rail train system’s cars are Siemens.

  • @allanegleston4931
    @allanegleston4931 2 года назад

    lookif for the app that was used on the ipad . search terms are failing me . thanks

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      The app is not one you can find in the Apple app shop or elsewhere. It appears when my IP address is typed into Google search. However as I have a dynamic IP address, it changes fairly frequently. What were you hoping to do with the app?

  • @chuapeiyuan8293
    @chuapeiyuan8293 8 лет назад

    Cool. Does that takes up a lot of bandwidth? Looks like it uses up a lot of data for a long chat.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  8 лет назад +2

      +Chua Pei Yuan
      Hi Chua, Thanks for your interest. I have checked with our Engineers, and they assure me that the data usage is tiny. The content of a 'Chat' is very similar to a text-only email of the same length. Both use the same method to send the words.

  • @jahtektroy6964
    @jahtektroy6964 9 лет назад +2

    cool communicating alternative

  • @mikhailgorbachev3721
    @mikhailgorbachev3721 7 лет назад

    I was looking for the band, but this is cool too.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  7 лет назад

      Band?? But glad you like this instead.

    • @LukasFink1
      @LukasFink1 6 лет назад

      I was looking for this, but the band seems cool too.

    • @LukasFink1
      @LukasFink1 6 лет назад

      They remind me of Kraftwerk.

  • @elsuenodejuan-thedreamsofj4251
    @elsuenodejuan-thedreamsofj4251 4 года назад

    Me recuerdo en Iquique en una importadora de automotriz International;
    De los Tsara que en el año de 1965 tenía este sistema de Telex.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад

      Sí que sería el mismo télex!

  • @hauptuhrdotnetblog6700
    @hauptuhrdotnetblog6700 9 лет назад +2

    Very cool!
    Great video!!

  • @firefox5926
    @firefox5926 5 лет назад

    the telex machine is kept so clean and it types to a waiting world

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  5 лет назад

      .... I don’t like Mondays. Bang Bang

  • @audiearmorer2686
    @audiearmorer2686 4 года назад +1

    did enough of that in the late 70's ...hate those Model 32's ...!!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад

      audie armorer Only this morning I had about 90 minutes on line chatting with a friend in New Jersey and he was likely using his Teletype 32 😊

  • @HamguyBacon
    @HamguyBacon Год назад

    that's pretty, cool. if it went more mainstream instead of being stuck in business. it could have been an early message board with several users connected.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  Год назад

      The problem was that in most countries, you could not simply buy a Telex machine and plug it in. They were only available on a monthly rental basis and calls were not particularly cheap. And of course if you did pay to have one, all you could call would be businesses. Initially it was fax machines which killed them off, and later on emails became another substitute, both of these being very much cheaper than renting a Telex service on a monthly basis. We only have them because nobody wanted Telex any more..

  • @newdimension4731
    @newdimension4731 3 года назад

    The Telex was before THE FAX MACHINE. You would type your message to someone else to another company. If the message had no mistakes, than you would dial the number of the receiver and start the sending. Than the ribbon, yellow or blue would come out. You would file that ribbon with the printed copy in a file.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад

      Sounds like the procedure, which has been imitated by the German designers of this hobby network. Teleprinters were used in Europe and UK for post office telegrams from the 1930s and some time after that the Telex network was set up. FAX did not start until the late 70s or early 80s but because of its simplicity, it killed Telex.

  • @MrFiver1111
    @MrFiver1111 5 лет назад +7

    *Sent from my iTelex*

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  5 лет назад +3

      OK. Call me on 61001. Consider time differences to Australia East Coast.

  • @thegoat1612
    @thegoat1612 4 года назад +2

    Fabulous

  • @tthoms
    @tthoms 3 года назад

    Fascinating!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  3 года назад

      😊👍 It still gets used occasionally.

  • @150_md.mahinabdullah7
    @150_md.mahinabdullah7 2 года назад

    so telex is some sort of chatting device of old days.....?

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      No. TELEX was much too expensive for ordinary people to hire.
      Businesses that had a need for printed communications to go very quickly to other businesses (especially overseas) used this, much like businesses send emails to each other instead of just phoning. FAX very much killed off the service as anyone with little training could send a FAX message for just the cost of a normal phone call. Email almost killed off the rest, and today very few businesses have TELEX, and the only exchange I know of is in England.

    • @150_md.mahinabdullah7
      @150_md.mahinabdullah7 2 года назад

      @@tressteleg1 ohh thanks for the information. Have a great day man! love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  2 года назад

      You have a great day too! Thanks for calling from 🇧🇩

  • @aguskhairudin4842
    @aguskhairudin4842 4 года назад

    Mantap jawi

  • @brianan7179
    @brianan7179 6 лет назад +3

    Reminds me Movie Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад

      Spies using teleprinters were just a minuscule percentage of overall usage :-)

  • @javiervelascomarquez3225
    @javiervelascomarquez3225 3 года назад

    Dos Hermanas.

  • @euo95
    @euo95 6 лет назад

    Fascinating!!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад +1

      There is a big hobby fair in Hannover Germany this weekend so I will be using my teleprinters to chat with people there this evening and tomorrow evening. 😊

  • @vladimiruzelac9912
    @vladimiruzelac9912 7 лет назад

    Ja sam telegrafista teleprintista ..ovo sve mi extra id..++

  • @generalralph6291
    @generalralph6291 4 года назад

    "Salmon counts in local rivers normal for seasonal period. Water toxicity levels rising near coal plants. Please send aspirin. Stop."

  • @jesurajrs4439
    @jesurajrs4439 6 лет назад

    like Typewriting Machine....

  • @patosobreromurphy4634
    @patosobreromurphy4634 4 года назад

    Congratulations

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад

      PATO Sobrero Murphy 😊👍

  • @yggdrasilthousandsand3124
    @yggdrasilthousandsand3124 7 лет назад

    i have exactly such a maschine as in this video found on my grandpas upper floor , woudl this be still compatible to do telex chat or is it already too old? ruclips.net/video/HcMHam54EOI/видео.html

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  7 лет назад

      Hi. Thanks for the contact. Essentially it should be fine, assuming it is not rusted up. If you can, please send me a Message (which is private) on my RUclips account. There is a lot more to discuss but it is not wise to publish contact details here as it is likely to create a lot of spam. If you can't contact me through Messages, leave me another message here and I will make another suggestion.

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  7 лет назад

      +yggdrasil thousandsand
      I tried to reply yesterday but it seems that failed to work.
      If the Creed 7B is not rusted up, it should be fine for Telex. There is a lot more to say about this. Best done via emails. As it is not a good idea to put an email address here for Spam reasons, would you be able to send me a RUclips message please? If not we can try something else. Tonight's new video may interest you also.

  • @amratlalchakre9477
    @amratlalchakre9477 5 лет назад

    Thanks for video

  • @kae4466
    @kae4466 5 лет назад

    verey interesting.

  • @daraka1754
    @daraka1754 5 лет назад

    I like it

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks, and of course it all still works 😊

  • @stevenbennett3805
    @stevenbennett3805 4 года назад

    Take care of those machines. We're going to need them to communicate after Hair Twitler brings the world to its knees and the economic crisis shuts down the infrastructure.

  • @berakfilip
    @berakfilip 6 лет назад

    Omg very old!!!!!

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  6 лет назад

      Actually that one dates from just 1960. Others I own are of designs dating from the 1930s. Looked for my video ‘Gold Coast Teleprinters’ to see them and others.

  • @javiervelascomarquez3225
    @javiervelascomarquez3225 4 года назад

    Silves.

  • @roachtoasties
    @roachtoasties 4 года назад +1

    Technology should have stopped here. I'm bored of iPhones, Androids, Windows, Macs, tablets, 5g, 6g, 7g, 8g, 9g, etc., etc., etc.,

    • @tressteleg1
      @tressteleg1  4 года назад +1

      I know what you mean, but just stop and think - if it weren’t for the magic of the Internet with RUclips, you would not know that anything in this video existed, ha ha.