Vince McMahon's 10 WORST Creative Botches

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • This episode of Going In Raw is sponsored by DraftKings Sportsbook!
    Download DraftKing Sportsbook and use code RAW to sign up! New customers can bet just FIVE BUCKS to get TWO HUNDRED INSTANTLY IN BONUS BETS.
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-Gambler or visit www.1800gambler.net. In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369). In Connecticut, Help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Please play responsibly. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Licensee partner Golden Nugget Lake Charles (LA). 21 plus age varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance. See sportsbook.draftkings.com/mmaterms for eligibility and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources.
    Consider joining Friendo Club by clicking JOIN ($5/month) OR becoming a $5+ Patron at / steveandlarson !
    🚨 Friendo Club Members Get:
    -Special Bonus Episode LIVE or ON DEMAND
    -Ad Free Audio RSS Feed + Bonus Episode (Patreon Exclusve)
    -Emotes for Live Chat (Channel Member Exclusive)
    -Ask questions for our recap shows!
    -Participate in MONTHLY PREDICTIONS CHALLENGES!
    Going In Raw Merch:
    www.friendoshop...
    Send us Friendo Mail!
    PO Box 1814
    Orangevale, CA 95662
    Subscribe and leave us a rating, review or comment!
    Going in Raw on ITunes
    apple.co/1LpIsZa
    Going In Raw on Twitter:
    / realgoinginraw

Комментарии • 95

  • @6DADADA
    @6DADADA 10 месяцев назад +10

    Kofi not getting a Bryan/AJ level match from Brock Lesnar and then being rawgated out of the title picture to this day

  • @TheSpektrum1989
    @TheSpektrum1989 10 месяцев назад +47

    the fact Vince used Hornswoggle as his "end this gimmick" scapegoat THREE TIMES (Anonymous GM, Illegitimate son and final classic Cruiserweight Champion) proves he was scraping the bottom of the barrel creatively.

  • @josealaguna8651
    @josealaguna8651 10 месяцев назад +12

    The upcoming AEW creative blunders video is about to hit different 😂🗣️

    • @elmase2163
      @elmase2163 10 месяцев назад +1

      10 hour video

  • @acc201b
    @acc201b 10 месяцев назад +21

    Jinders reign is when I stopped watching wwe regularly because the exact reasons S & L said. It felt so forced and felt like pandering to reach a market

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 10 месяцев назад +9

      Especially considering guys like Cena, Roman, Styles, even Rollins were way more over in India than Jinder ever was. They love the established stars like everyone else, Jinders reign was the Bollywood version of the Lex Luger experiment

  • @eastsidereviews727
    @eastsidereviews727 10 месяцев назад +9

    😂The hilarious thing about the Slaughter thing is that by the time Mania happened, the damn war had ended! From all aspects, just a colossal failure!

  • @ironbat1993
    @ironbat1993 10 месяцев назад +11

    Fake Diesel and Razor was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. I really dont know what the point of any of it was. All that was accomplished was that it sent fans to WCW.

  • @wheaton_drizz
    @wheaton_drizz 10 месяцев назад +3

    Always perfect time for the Saturday afternoon herb rotation. Peace and love friendos.

  • @ClayCarter-qx5nl
    @ClayCarter-qx5nl 10 месяцев назад +2

    Ok nice. I initally thought this was the 10 botches from October 2023, but all time is great too.

  • @boombagoose
    @boombagoose 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ministry of Darkness’ Higher Power….my goodness 😢

  • @andrewclough9717
    @andrewclough9717 10 месяцев назад +2

    I was at Mania 27. I did not have the fun I was promised…

  • @Bulldog93
    @Bulldog93 10 месяцев назад +8

    not pushing Owen after the Montreal Screwjob after he stayed loyal to the company even after Bret, Bulldog, and Neihart left

    • @traupman84
      @traupman84 10 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think Vince would let him out of his contract. That's the only reason he stayed

  • @manuelcifuentes3694
    @manuelcifuentes3694 10 месяцев назад +16

    I think the worse one has to be skyrocketing The Fiend back in 2019 when he didn't have to be!

    • @kadeemjones30
      @kadeemjones30 10 месяцев назад +1

      I gotta agree I think they should’ve taken their time with The Fiend cause Seth Rollins just gotten the universal title back from Brock Lesnar regaining momentum and The Fiend was the hottest thing in WWE and they backed themselves into a corner and that’s he we got that terrible ending to the hell in a cell match

  • @Bulldog93
    @Bulldog93 10 месяцев назад +2

    oooo I like the new banners for countout

  • @LiamPlaysGame
    @LiamPlaysGame 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hearing you say "Number 10" one after another brought me back

  • @dougfancy101290
    @dougfancy101290 10 месяцев назад +2

    Shoehorning Charlotte Flair into the Becky Lynch/Ronda Rousey WM 35 feud

  • @beauzermeno2406
    @beauzermeno2406 10 месяцев назад +9

    Fat shaming Mickie James, who weighs 120 lbs.

    • @mageside
      @mageside 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's just gross when you factor in that he was allegedly extorting other women in his company for "favors" behind the scenes and if you wanna go digging into the fat shaming could be seen as a form of "grooming" Mickie James for his liking. Thankfully she didn't do it.
      PS. I'm not saying there is a 1:1 through line, but that COULD be a possible through line.

  • @GodZAssAssIN95
    @GodZAssAssIN95 10 месяцев назад +1

    I came in when yhe Tim White promos were happening. He is killing himself cuz Matthew's wanted to know about his experience being a reff in a Taker Hell in a Cell match. And rather than speak of the horrors, he offer himself lol

  • @orlandowright2323
    @orlandowright2323 10 месяцев назад +7

    The McMahons vs. HBK and "God" in 2006 was very distasteful. Vince in storyline was trying to get Shawn to return to his pre Christianity ways and was claiming that he either was God or better than God by performing "miracles".

  • @devmo03
    @devmo03 10 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with #1 wholeheartedly but I got a good chuckle out of Steve talking about overseas women’s wrestling promotions and then naming the ones based out of Chicago and New York.

  • @LowQualContent
    @LowQualContent 10 месяцев назад +1

    Idk if i agree with the women's division being number one, especially when you had bright enough spots before 2015. 10th, maybe, but not 1.

    • @clv735
      @clv735 8 месяцев назад

      There was an entire twenty year period of women's wrestling being a joke. As good as some of the women are these days, a majority of them could be much better

  • @ProjectJ3319
    @ProjectJ3319 10 месяцев назад +13

    I cannot imagine the horrible things Muhammad Hassan had to hear get pitched to him by Vince, and I think it’s infinitely cool he’s working as an educator now. He was clearly led to a better path but it’s a shame he didn’t get a fair shake.

    • @thegreatthrasher
      @thegreatthrasher 10 месяцев назад +1

      If the world didnt happen he was gonna be over

  • @MrSynister167
    @MrSynister167 10 месяцев назад

    Big Boss Man feeding Al Snow's dog, Big Boss Man dragging Big Show's dads casket at his funeral

  • @crapoleon
    @crapoleon 10 месяцев назад +37

    If reports are to be believed, trying to bring Adam Cole up to main roster as a manager is the most ludicrous creative of recent times.

    • @dougferguson6876
      @dougferguson6876 10 месяцев назад +6

      I'm not so sure he was wrong about that

    • @manniefaces
      @manniefaces 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@dougferguson6876lolwut

    • @SamSamSamJ
      @SamSamSamJ 10 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe he wouldn't get injured as much.

    • @SomeGuy-mt4hq
      @SomeGuy-mt4hq 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@nikobellic8627average vincel

    • @SomeGuy-mt4hq
      @SomeGuy-mt4hq 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@dougferguson6876 how? Why take a good wrestler out the ring for no reason?

  • @ev14304
    @ev14304 10 месяцев назад +1

    35:33
    Man, I ❤️ Larson

  • @rayhoyer4829
    @rayhoyer4829 10 месяцев назад +1

    Number 11 ending the streak Number 12 making kane a joke!

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 10 месяцев назад +2

    #10 Should have been Micheal Cole.
    #9 Good idea in theory but not in practice.
    #8 Never should have happened!
    #7 Could have worked if it wasn't sudden and random.
    #6 Should have stopped after revealing Kane was responsible for her death.
    #5 Should have only brought in people who understood the business.
    #4 NEVER should have happened!!!
    #3 Roman should have feuded with Seth Rollins more like Dean Ambrose did.
    #2 Only works if he aligns himself with Eric Biscoff.
    #1 Let's not act like a bunch of people didn't tune into every week to watch women wrestling because the fact that was more of a bonus between the 1994 and 2015.

  • @Alucard-A-La-Carte
    @Alucard-A-La-Carte 10 месяцев назад +1

    Vince McMahon: failing upward since 2002. Also from 1990-1996. Starting to think this guy's reputation might have been massively overrated by...oh, look at that: Vince McMahon!

  • @backfandangoX
    @backfandangoX 10 месяцев назад +1

    Al Wilson actually is Torrie's dad

  • @brandongordon2392
    @brandongordon2392 10 месяцев назад

    My personal worst Vince McMahon booking/creative moments.
    10. Iraqi Sympathizer: Sgt. Slaughter
    9. WrestleMania VIII: Not booking Hogan vs. Flair
    8. Katie Vick
    7. Royal Rumble 2014: not having Bryan Danielson in the Rumble and winning it.
    6. Muhammad Hassan's entire WWE run
    5. Royal Rumble 2015: The entire Rumble match
    4. The XFL
    3. Backlash 2017: Jinder Mahal wins WWE Championship
    2. Hell in a Cell 2019: The Fiend vs Seth Rollins
    1. WrestleMania IX: Hulk Hogan's 4th WWE Championship win, over Yokozuna

  • @atticus8659
    @atticus8659 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Kane/Lita story from 2004/2005

  • @Vandalia1998
    @Vandalia1998 7 месяцев назад

    They had a chance to redeem Roman after the Lukemia announcement but they used the dog food stuff once he returned.

  • @JTsavage7577
    @JTsavage7577 10 месяцев назад +1

    No.1 should have been that moustache

  • @Shizuma
    @Shizuma 10 месяцев назад +2

    Regarding Tim White, I recall hearing the whole idea was a Stephanie McMahon thing- as were many things when she was head of creative. Although of course, Vince had final say. Anyway the story had went Stepahnie had heard about Jake Roberts "failed attempt" and thought it was funny, turning it into a "comedy" bit with Tim White. *grain of salt*, it was what the dirt sheets said.

  • @anthonyscalese6278
    @anthonyscalese6278 10 месяцев назад +3

    i definitely dont think the guest host era was as bad as a lot people make it out to be

    • @yadisdis4207
      @yadisdis4207 10 месяцев назад

      Did you grow up during that era?

    • @anthonyscalese6278
      @anthonyscalese6278 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@yadisdis4207 Yeah i started watching in 05, so as a kid watching the guest host era it didn’t bother me. As an adult looking back i can admit it was bad but i think there’s been a lot worse things they’ve done

    • @brandonbates9259
      @brandonbates9259 2 месяца назад

      @@anthonyscalese6278 Respect your opinion lol but to me that was so bad that anything that came after didnt seem so bad to me lol orton and legacy was carrying Raw during tha time

  • @tallthinkev
    @tallthinkev 10 месяцев назад +4

    The guest host would have worked if it was only ex-wrestlers, instead they did go with 'celebrities' and people from US sports, no one watches US sports outside the US. The WWE, then, and Vince more so, thought the US was the world. Why didn't they just call themselves USWE?

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 10 месяцев назад

      No wonder *Global Localization* seemed like a Triple H term when he was looking to expand NXT globally

    • @GrownUpKid94
      @GrownUpKid94 10 месяцев назад

      People overseas absolutely watch the NBA and MLB.

    • @tallthinkev
      @tallthinkev 10 месяцев назад

      @@GrownUpKid94 Maybe in the America's, one thing is to think about is the time difference

  • @Magnificential
    @Magnificential 8 месяцев назад

    Tim whites suicide bits are still hilarious to me, but i struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts and they can be that silly

  • @DarkWaveOnSteroids
    @DarkWaveOnSteroids 8 месяцев назад

    The only reason why I would say #9 (Sgt Slaughter) isn’t as disaster as everyone thinks it’s because as a kid I hated Slaughter, he was the heel of all heels, he was a heel magnet..

  • @1rhpsfan
    @1rhpsfan 9 месяцев назад

    It was after the Dog Food, in 2020 one of Wrestlemania's main events was going to be Roman Reigns vs. Goldberg, but after Covid hit it was Roman out, Strowman in.

  • @canis2020
    @canis2020 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do you think they will keep Vincent around as a nostalgia act? Lol

    • @SCSAsJorts
      @SCSAsJorts 10 месяцев назад

      Once that doc drops probably not 😂

  • @years-ti7xl
    @years-ti7xl 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just 10?! You might need a 10-part series for this one. I could think of a 100 or more creative botches since Vince has a laundry list of those in the decades that he's run the place.

  • @Alescandon135
    @Alescandon135 7 месяцев назад

    heel Slaughter was awesome...

  • @Gr3gLMAO
    @Gr3gLMAO 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hands down Asuka losing to Charlotte. I don’t like women’s wrestling so Asuka being my favorite wrestler meant something.

  • @Vandalia1998
    @Vandalia1998 7 месяцев назад

    I might be in the Minority but I did enjoy the Stone Cold vs Angle fued in 2001

  • @HuarachesPlaysTv
    @HuarachesPlaysTv 7 месяцев назад

    Im amazed the shane fighter league is not here hahaha then again it was like only 3 weeks

  • @CarlosCruz-ox9wc
    @CarlosCruz-ox9wc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Any and every time Vince wrote the female wrestlers half his age to be his mistresses (trish being the most egregious example)

  • @FrancoisCh81
    @FrancoisCh81 10 месяцев назад

    About the Fake Diesel and Fake Razor thing, I think I read a while back that Nash said he and Hall were given a raise by WCW before they (Fake Razor and Fake Diesel) because they were affraid that they were gonna jump back to WWF...

  • @bink9797
    @bink9797 10 месяцев назад

    we gotta be happy that Jeremy Piven was chosen or we wouldn’t have gotten the amazing SUMMERFEST soundbite hahahaha

    • @Bayley4ever
      @Bayley4ever 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah Jeremy Piven had done Black Hawk Down, Ellen DeGeneres Television show and quite a bit of other stuff. I remember him mostly for those two.

    • @bink9797
      @bink9797 8 месяцев назад

      @@Bayley4ever I’m confused what you mean I’m not claiming Jeremy Piven didn’t have roles? either way being a Seinfeld diehard I mainly know him from being the guy to play George when they film the pilot for NBC and he was a main star of Entourage.

  • @Ellthom
    @Ellthom 10 месяцев назад +1

    Only 10? This must have a hard list to only try to keep in 10 :P

    • @SCSAsJorts
      @SCSAsJorts 10 месяцев назад

      I mean I feel the fellas would be here for 5 hours if that was the case 😂

  • @mwchesser
    @mwchesser 10 месяцев назад +1

    What about the incest angles(Beaver Cleavage, the Burchills)? This was after Vince's rejected idea that either he or Shane be the kayfabe father of Stephanie's child.

  • @Divinevert
    @Divinevert 10 месяцев назад +1

    Jinder shall not be hindered.

  • @JAMESRKOFL
    @JAMESRKOFL 10 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t think the Jinder stuff wasn’t that bad🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @olympus32
    @olympus32 10 месяцев назад

    HHH beating Sting at Wrestlemania

  • @mychaeljones7526
    @mychaeljones7526 10 месяцев назад

    55:09 agreed

  • @shuriken835
    @shuriken835 10 месяцев назад

    Nothing is worse than Heel Michael Cole. NOTHING!

  • @KadeemG61
    @KadeemG61 10 месяцев назад

    The Ruthless Aggression Era was good but aged terribly because of terrible ideas by Vince and Kevin Dunn that found their audience uncomfortable with tasteless segments like Katie Vick and the Tim White segments were so bad. WWE dodged a bullet not to get their sponsors angry. Poking fun at mental illness is stupid and Vince learned the hard way when the Benoit murders happened 3 years later.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
    @user-fe8gx3ie5v 10 месяцев назад

    Blowman and The Bloodline are nowhere near the best. They're still decent, at best.

  • @VesiustheBoneCruncher
    @VesiustheBoneCruncher 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think a lot of these are gimmicks that were meant to get heat, and did, but it was pure go away heat - and then the real problem - the pathological stubbornness - got hard exposed. Vince was always a mark for his own bad creative, he positively revelled in it. I have thought for a long time he actively enjoyed making people suffer through awful product. Because I can’t see any other reason why he stuck to clear disasters so keenly, and refused to push organically over stuff. It’s either a fundamental misunderstanding of what heat is useful, or a deliberate choice. Maybe he was always just looking for that perfect level of Golddust heat.

  • @BradYoung87
    @BradYoung87 10 месяцев назад

    I tried to kill myself 3 weeks ago and was NOT expecting the Tim White talk lol. Woof

  • @CCGdude09
    @CCGdude09 10 месяцев назад

    Heel michael cole actually made me mute my tv for 3 hours. So unbearable

  • @JoseTwitterFan
    @JoseTwitterFan 10 месяцев назад +1

    WWF's stated reason claims the downsizing of WrestleMania's VII's planned venue was due to complicated, costly security concerns surrounding Slaughter's heel character as well as crime problems in the surrounding neighberhood. This would've been avoided had WWF gave the LA Coliseum WM 6 (since they were originally in consideration for the 1990 event) and Toronto's Skydome the 1991 event and just abandoned the unpopular Gulf War storyline plan altogether.

    • @filbert910
      @filbert910 10 месяцев назад +4

      They couldn't sell enough tickets. They moved to the smaller venue to avoid looking bad

    • @GodlessScummer
      @GodlessScummer 7 месяцев назад

      They didn't fully manage to sell out the LA Sports Arena let alone the Colosseum.
      The official attendance was 16,158 but a lot of those tickets were comps.
      Some reports have the paid amount of tickets as low as 10,000.

  • @82gamerprincess31
    @82gamerprincess31 10 месяцев назад +2

    The more you hear stories the more you realize Vince’s creative ideas are basically just Gen Z Edgelord cringe memes.

    • @SCSAsJorts
      @SCSAsJorts 10 месяцев назад

      Or just an out of touch senile man

  • @klown13420
    @klown13420 10 месяцев назад

    Why does And Larson have little And Larson doing an American Me it's unsettling. Don't look at me little puppet

  • @thedoctor3528
    @thedoctor3528 10 месяцев назад

    This video needs a better because the current title is just a lie. It imples you'll discuss all the times vince botched obviously money wrestlers like early roman, bryan etc but this list is all over the place

    • @troypalek4104
      @troypalek4104 10 месяцев назад

      Lol, it would need to be a 24 hour stream for them to discuss all those.

  • @user-fe8gx3ie5v
    @user-fe8gx3ie5v 10 месяцев назад

    You have zero proof that Vince is "an awful human being" other than baseless accusations.