As an UI designer, I can say that this is only good for the concept and mood board phase, but nothing for the actual exploration and production of UI assets. At least, not in larger projects where you need full control on everything. For small projects, only created by developers, AI assets are a great solution. But to give you an idea for the UI exploration: Imagine you show the hero asset your client and he says: "Keep it as it is, but remove the brown leafs and make more like a gradient on the big green leafs. Maybe make them a little bit thinner, try it out and let's see how this looks." At this point you don't want to put your AI asset into Midjourney again, adding the client feedback, and praying to God, that you get good results. You have to re-create it in vector tools like Illustrator, Sketch, or Figma to be able to edit every path and hex value. Alternatively, what could be also supporting the manual work, is putting the chosen concept image into Midjourney, ask for single assets, load them into Illustrator, use the "image to vector" function, and cleaning up and adjusting the vectors.
I have no idea about ui and art but here is my opinion. You are currently absolutely correct. However this ai art has been a resent development. Give it a few years. As it is now ai art is not much more than a concept. When it is actually developed for specific use cases it can do much more. I would compare it to os and programs. Yes the os can do much but without the correct applications its quite tedious. With programs it can do so much more
Lets say the coding of the app is done with a use specific ai and not an allrounder. An ai just for this one language. Then you have an ai for ui elements, and just ui elements. With the combination of those 2 you have an ai that can make an app. (although there is more to it than just ui and some code) another ai is there for the last tweaks for the client and bam.
Moodboard 100%! Apps are more than just one state of an image. They’re a flow of specific screens, interactions, states, and possible animations. In general, a mobile app should follow best practices and patterns of an OS (iOS/Android) in order for the app to have somewhat of a successful UX and pass store acceptance criteria. AI has a while to go before it starts replacing people entirely. Side note: The apps used in the video are native wrapper apps which, honestly, are great for quick shits but are the minority when it comes to mobile app creation. They have performance issues at scale and are challenging to hire for. Xcode and AS12 are mainly used.
@@LikesGamePlays AI Art is currently created from already copyrighted material Give it a few months and all AIs including Midjourney will be sued to hell and back for copyright infringement. Additionally, What 12XFactor said is correct, this only should be used as a concept. The problem is many people wont and will then continue to make money with stuff thats taken from copyrighted material. I am all for AI-art mind you. I like the concept of it being used as a tool. But some of you really ought to be thinking both ways instead of just one.
Thanks! - As in basically the same concept as this video but more of it? As I mentioned in the video I think I could do a better job by investing some more time in learning Midjourney and spending longer on the design, so maybe I could do a similar follow up video later
@@JoshuaMorony ☝️💭👨🏫 what are some use cases for using openai to figure out your app requirements for your MVP if you are having trouble identifying your requirements? 🤝🤝🤝
@@JoshuaMorony Yeah, like design an app like a cookbook or flight tracker, something that ends up as a working sellable use case. Also another idea would be to do the same with a website, I saw some videos of amazing site designs via midjourney too. thanks!
This is fascinating and interesting, in order to build apps with the help of Midjourney, we still have a lot of work to do right, unless chatGPT is able to code for us and integrate images generated by Midjourney, but anyhow, this is very inspiring demo tutorial, thank you very much 🙏
@@joeolso It can not write the code as such. It can understand some concepts and re-create solutions or patterns. It can't grasp new concepts, workaround the issues, and in general apart from skeleton work it actually slows down more experienced programmers than is helpful. It is good for simple quick scripts or repetitive code used everywhere online (to-do lists, simple base structured API). It won't replace programmers - but will increase productivity as you mentioned.
@@HCforLife1 It can be used to accomplish everything you listed above if you break the prompts into steps. I literally did it yesterday. You cant say make this app but you can ask it how it would complete each step and write it proficiently. Im not saying itll replace humans, im saying it makes the talented faster with less errors.
@@HCforLife1 I think Chat GPT is currently gathering a lot of intelligence from people solving its code by raising issues. At least, that would be a nice intelligence on top of intelligence. I agree, it's current way of coding is filled with errors and problems when you tackle more complex problems.
@@Master_of_Chess_Shorts it's truly not error prone in that sense when you consider that the only reason why it can't produce exactly what you want is because you didn't explain yourself correctly or withheld information. If you asked a developer to create a complex piece of software you'd need to specify a lot of stuff to get the product you wanted. Same thing with Chat GPT
As a graphic designer, I'm coming to the conclusion more and more that "graphic design" is more of a staff sort of thing-something almost janitorial, mundane even. We designers like to glorify it and act like it's this super creative thing that requires special creativity and charm-and maybe it is, but I almost feel like at this point, for most use cases it's mostly just rehashing the same old ideas in slightly different ways or combinations. It's a chore and I for one am glad to offload it to an AI. I'm starting to think that the real magic is in creating products and systems and structures that change the world or our experiences in positive and revolutionary ways. It's in being able to execute on those things and orchestrate the support and resources to make it happen. I love graphic design and I don't want to minimize its importance or the skill and creativity needed to do it well-it really can work wonders, but so much of the work needed to do it isn't creative or charming or magical. It's just shit that needs to get done-like, just give me something that looks professional, fits the vibe, and doesn't get in the way of the actual product or service. People buy because of what's being offered, not because of what color or shape the buy button is or if the icons are flat icons or line art style. SHEESH!!!
Programming is exactly the same. It’s easy to convince yourself as a programmer that the minute technical details (built on decades and decades of increasingly bloated tech), just have to be that way, and you’re special because you know how to work with it despite the complexity. The truth is those technical quirks and complexity you mastered are going to be made irrelevant by AI, and you should be happy you can focus on the bigger picture.
Well you're onto something I believe. Half a decade ago I was working with corporate design. They had a small book full of specifications, what colours to use, what type of font, the size, exact measures for the layout. It was soul crushing work. And already back then I thought, why the fuck isn't there a machine for that?
I really hope you are a relatively new graphic designer or a student to have come to this realization just now. Otherwise I’m not sure how much value you were able to create with your work beforehand, must’ve been stressful.
The random demo apps we see in programming articles are about to look a lot better :) The crazy thing is this is already usable, and the tech is still improving exponentially. Imagine the disruption the current tech is about to cause. But then what comes in 1-2 years will be even more disruptive. And just like with the app code you generated last time, what you did involved several steps. It seems easy to write some software to support this specific process. So even if the AI side of things didn't improve, this AI could power some incredible design tools in the near term.
Totally agree this is usable right now - maybe not for high end apps, but for fun/demo things certainly and I think applications for a lot of small-medium sized business/startups where something lacking a bit of polish and a more carefully designed UX is fine (if I wanted to put up some hobby/side project on the app store I would totally use this for the design). Trying to not get too carried away lol but I've got a lot of comments to the tune of "so what it made a todo app?" etc - to me it's still incredibly impressive and seems to be a sign of where things are headed. To me it kind of feels like mocking image generating AIs for including extra limbs or fingers on people - the fact we are at that point at all is mind blowing, and it seems like it won't take long for the extra limbs and awkwardness of UI designs to disappear.
except the AI already did improve. ChatGPT that was used for the app is from 2021. OpenAI claims their not-yet released generation is 100 times better (whatever it means)... I always tought I could do my job for another 20 years. As of now you still need humans to blend it all together, lets see for how long
@josh did create the app from a midjourney image. But seeing the result. I would consider it can be improved by using the same images the "bot" produced and upscale with AI, if you feel the images became bad. The foliage looks nice but it is possible to get the 100% design from midjourney into a functional app. Just need to tweak those CSS styles, gradients, box-shadows etc. Therefore I ask, if you can share the images or the prompt producing these images, to give it a shoot, anyhow great work on the app!
@@somerandomchannel382 great idea, and I definitely agree this can be improved with a bit more effort - I've added the original images from Midjourney into the "assets" folder in the source code if you'd like to tinker with it!
@@kraldada6557 ai is using open source and free content from internet to learn, several big sources for that already banned chatgtp so it will stagnate as it will have limited resources to learn from. Even chatgtp creators said it's nowhere close of replacing anyone, it's just another tool to speedup development.
Good tool for getting hero images and web design layouts. I was a graphic artist 10 years ago. I'm not sure how this could affect those kind of jobs honestly. I think a person still needs the knowledge to implement the designs or tweak them and make them work. Might get paid less to do it now though.
Atm, yeah. Next iteration, these bots will understand language, and how to place them, font use.etc. But you'll still need creatives. What AI does is gets them to their end result much, much faster.
Watching this gave me tingles about my future workflow! I find that our minds gravitate and can be polarized by AI design! Interesting to see in the future if we'll come to a point our minds can pin point AI generation or if the tech advances to the point our mind can't tell the difference
The designs the AI are making are honestly out of this world. I've never seen such pleasing colour combinations on a real app. I guess android users can design a theme system based on this and it would look wonderful.
so OpenAI just released their Text-3dImage AI model, time now for image to text more specifically code (maybe use more adv codex which built into the upcoming gpt-4 )
Moodboard 100%! Apps are more than just one state of an image. They’re a flow of specific screens, interactions, states, and possible animations. In general, a mobile app should follow best practices and patterns of an OS (iOS/Android) in order for the app to have somewhat of a successful UX and pass store acceptance criteria. AI has a while to go before it starts replacing people entirely. Side note: The apps used in the video are native wrapper apps which, honestly, are great for quick shits but are the minority when it comes to mobile app creation. They have performance issues at scale and are challenging to hire for. Xcode and AS12 are mainly used.
On the side note, that's incorrect on all parts imo. It's obviously a bit subjective, but no hybrid/cross-platform apps do not have general performance issues at scale. Again, kind of subjective but hiring for cross-platform is generally going to be easier because it utilises things like general web tech or React which is generally going to be easier to hire for than Objective-C/Swift/iOS developers. And as far as I know the majority of applications on the app store are hybrid/cross-platform not native iOS. On your first point, I mostly agree. I think for this to be useful right now it still requires the person using it to have an idea about these sorts of things, and even still the end result is going to be less professional than a "proper" design, but I can still see this fulfilling certain roles.
Yes, i think with this advancements the designers and programmers can merge into a profession that can do these two types of jobs much faster and at unison.
Are there anymore discord AI art generators that are out there right now? I'm looking around and ran into bluewillow and I'm looking around for a few more Have you heard of this one?
Guys, how where the icons created in MidJourney? I mean in minute 1:53 we see six images, and the fifth shows a lot of icons. Do you happen to know how to use the prompt to generate similar to those?
Everyone's excited about AI, or scared, but I personally am pessimistic about it. While I don't think AI will get to the point of eliminating all jobs in both design and/or development (at least not for a long time anyways), all AI is going to do is devalue both design and development (and other many industries). If the internet services get littered with abundance of "decent" art or there's many developers who can do "decent" development, it's going to devalue the work put into it. Simple supply and demand w surplus of supply. For example, the advent of photography, while photos and art used to be more appreciated, it has become the norm and people essentially become "spoiled" rather than appreciative.
@@cabinmusikslaps as a developer, i can assure you, this ai is capable of spitting out new ideas (albeit primitive at the moment); in the future it is not going to replace ONLY knowledge based jobs ;)
There's one major flaw in your logic. The customers of AI art are not customers of Human Art. They're different customer segments. It's the same way the Record Company Industry believes Piracy is Stealing. Which it isn't. It's copying. There's no revenue loss, because if Pirate Bay didn't exist, they wouldn't buy it in the first place. So while you may think AI is devaluing art. Human art and AI art will be two different products. Similar to digital art and physical art. Conclusion: AI is opening up more people to art. Thus making the world more beautiful and less evil. Which will benefit a world on the edge of a WW3 nuclear war. I'm not sure where you live in the world, but I bought Nuclear Radiation Pills this year, because our government in Europe was anticipating a nuclear explosion and it gives you 99% more chance to survive while eating radioactive food. The world is in chaos, and AI has given us generated art and automations to distract us from reality. That's huge W in my book 😄
Will this kill ux/ui? I recently bought into a ux\ui course in order to change careers and up my salary but everything I have been seeing as of late is making me worried I just spent a whole lot of money on something that may be automated reaaaal soon 😢
Nope. It's a tool that will speed up the research/ideation process (And maybe kill graphic design & Illustration) and make devs less independent from designers. But a digital product is more than just a creative concept of 2 App screens... Just compare the concept and the prototype result and you will notice that the final product doesn't look as pleasant as the idea.
This is fascinating and interesting, in order to build apps with the help of Midjourney, we still have a lot of work to do right, unless chatGPT is able to code for us and integrate images generated by Midjourney, but anyhow, this is very inspiring demo tutorial, thank you very much
Just compare the pleasant and colorful AI generated concept at 2:40 with your clunky and boring prototype at 3:50... I think the result speaks for itself that it looks like a low budget version of the AI generated concept (No offense). I think Midjourney is going elevate the job of a UX/UI designer and rather speed up the process, instead of replacing it. AI is going to assist in research, generating images/illustrations and generating ideas and moodboards. But you still need a human to solve problems. But a digital product is way more than just a ui concept... You still need to refine the UI, create patterns, make the product accessible, create a user journey, create an interactionflow and more important: make the product useful... But it makes design more accessible to developers and people who don't want/need a designer.
I think I asked it to use a solid/transparent background with no shadows when I generated the icon sets but it still added shadows and the bg wasn't a solid colour - though I suspect maybe people who know what they are doing with Midjourney prompts might be able to get it to actually use a solid colour background to make the assets easier to extract.
@@JoshuaMorony Inpainting and outpainting features would help here. This is where the user draws a mask over parts of the image and asks the AI to regenerate it. (Inpainitng for stuff within the image. Outpainting for stuff beyond the image boundary.) Iteration and feedback loops are also valuable. Take the generated image and use it as an input.
Really love this design and the implementation! Good job 👏 What’s the tool for rendering that iPhone 12 Pro view called though at 5:41 ? Have seen it in bunch of videos no idea if someone can comment much appreciated ❤
It's the iOS Simulator you get with Xcode - and if you're using Ionic/Capacitor you can also just run "ionic cap run ios" from the command line to launch the app in the simulator
Amazing, this is just the begining of this pandora box xD but this is a great tool for us developers that don´t have advanced skils of design and want more uniques assets
As a programmer why not use stable diffusion instead? Like my dumb gamer ass could barely get all that github stuff working but it being open source and everything seems to be right up your alley. Do need a good gpu to run it locally though
AI won’t be replacing jobs anytime soon, if at all, just changing them. Saying this AI will replace programmers is like saying Googling StackOverflow answers will replace programmers. Or that AI art replaces artists just like Fiverr freelancers using Logo generators replace actual branding agencies. There’s more to the craft than even just answering questions, like knowing what questions to ask for starters and app architecture. Personally, I love that I can ask it things and it gives examples. It helps ease figuring out the puzzle of a solution in code despite knowing what is otherwise needed.
I don't have any basis to think whether or not AI will replace these professions entirely eventually (say within our lifetimes), but to me it seems very reasonable to say that it has the potential (tools perhaps marginally better than what we have today) to replace a lot of peoples jobs. Maybe a small dev agency can now use AI + 2 devs to complete all their work, rather than having 5 or 10 devs - if the demand for software as a whole doesn't grow then that is a significant amount of programmers (or designers) that have been replaced.
Well unfortunately I can easily imagine AI, if it will be even slightly better than now, to be able to just spit out the entire code for a program/app you wanted to create. AI is starting to "think" like humans, so what is the thought process of a programmer, who wants to design and make an app? Well first you have to name what the app is going to do, then you list how it is going to do it. Then you need to figure out what code to use in order for the app to do every single thing that it is going to do. one by one, and piece it together. Last part is checking for errors, and checking if the intended funcionality works and looks just like you wanted, and if not, improve and repair. If the AI will be able to understand the intent behind the complicated prompt consisting of the app description, it's look and functionality, I can imagine it will be able to design and code the entire thing in seconds from A to Z, and it looks like it is already not far from that. Even if it won't be perfect, you will be able to order the AI to change the code in specific parts and thus perfect the code to your liking. I really feel like we are not that far from AI with such capabilities. You can also think obout it this way: Humans learn to speak a language, humans invented computers, which have their own language. Humans can't understand raw computers language, so they invented a language (programming) that both humans and computers can understand in order to communicate with computers. Computers do not understand humans language, so humans teach computers their language by using a language they both can understand - programming. Once computers will understand humans language fully, there will be no limitations on what computers can do after speaking with a human, because they will essentially "think" billions of times faster than us. It will no longer be a matter of designing complicated programs and models to make something (no matter easy or superhuman hard) with a computer, it will be simply like asking your all-knowing friend to do something for you, and AI will, like a human, find a way to solve your problem. It does not have to be AGI, it only needs to understand your intent behind your words, so, contextual thinking is the only step they need to teach it to archievie it.
Uhhh trust me, thousands of copywriters have already been replaced. You know how many people work with writing filler content for SEO? All of them. Gone.
I'm not fully up to speed with the methodology for the prompts, but I'm pretty sure this is to get it to produce designs similar in style to those you would find showcased on the dribbble website
So much hysteria about the "AI taking muh job", meanwhile most of the people, including Devs cannot properly use the search engines, neither to formalize their question and to have a dialogue with other people. And so somehow they should to be better with it, with technology that's all about right made prompts with a tasks description and validating how correct output is.
Hey there, just wanted to chime in and say that as a human, I am constantly amazed by the advancements in artificial intelligence. It's incredible to see AI being able to design an entire app in minutes like this. Keep up the amazing work!
The title reads as : I used an AI to help me design my app. Don't read it incorrectly as an AI made my app in minutes. It's a play in words to confuse you while not lying to you in any way.
Lol. Just take a look at the concept and then at the prototype he build... Let's ignore UX for a moment but just based on the UI, does the prototype look worse or better than the concept he used as reference? ;)
It really is a political task to distribute the remaining work equally when more and more of it becomes automated. Keynes had this vision, that one day, machines will do most of the work and we'd all have to work way less (instead of producing even more). We need thought-through reforms to make it happen.
@@iliaadamanthark8336 Doesn't it depend on the reform if its outcome is pretty or not? What do you expect to be not so pretty? Isn't not reforming anything going to lead to some not so pretty outcome? Right now, there is an (understandable) incentive to fight off improvements in productivity as incomes are linked to labour - the needed amount of which can be done by fewer and fewer people and leaves more people without income as a consequence. So we have to either find working ways to distribute that labour more equally or decouple labour and income to a degree.
@@midnattsol6207 I mean, the process towards the goal/reform, will not be pretty. It's power play, between the super rich vs everybody else. I think at the end of it, humanity will dwindle into a very small numbers of group. That will be good for the earth tbh, but won't be pretty for everyone affected i.e. The normal Joe like us.
@@midnattsol6207 Yeah, and now it would be exponentially worsen, as the AI grows exponentially. Hope we will be allright tho. Here some AI generated melody for some inspiration ruclips.net/video/Emidxpkyk6o/видео.html
Hello Joshua 💡👨🏫 a couple buddies of mine and I are trying to design a graphic design mobile and web app! How can the tools in your video be used to code and develop an app script! For an MVP and also for designing it as well? ☝️💭 Our problem is that we are having trouble identifying our requirements to make an alternative to something like vectornator for iOS
An app that doesn't do anything ain't an app 🙂 It's a front-end. Visual Basic allowed developers to throw together some UI. Shocker: you still had to write code to make it do something useful.
Some of people say that this will become an end of developers / graphic designers. But ask one question. Who will maintain that work and check correctness? Yeah sure another bot... AI...
Currently, the problem with AI-generated images is that the AI is not necessarily creating anything on its own. It is basically taking the totality of human creation and blending it all together. The problem arises that some of the information the AI is taking consists of copyrighted material! I see the potential of future litigation on the horizon if this is not addressed currently. As for the coding aspects of ChatGPT, you still, currently, have to know how to code to check the code to see if it will work, and will likely require a coder to fix certain portions to get it to work!
What if I told you that every human form of expression ever has been built on the totality of prior human expression and experience? Nothing is original. Everything is derivative. No one has ever done anything on their own.
@@Dheeidjdndbd The main point I am making is that the potential for copyright infringement exists and is based on where they are getting the information they are using to train the AI. Another thing is the original ideas behind the many visualizations had to stem from somewhere because they did not just spring up from thin air! I do agree that inspiration derives from building upon what has come before more often than not!
@@mind_of_a_darkhorse This is bullshit. For the following reasons: 1. Copyright is absurd, no one should own intellectual standards, it's an incredibly dystopian notion in itself 2. Artificial intelligences just consume the content and try to learn from it, not much different from what humans do. Artists lay eyes on something and obviously draw inspiration from that thing, it doesn't matter if it was "copyright material" or whatever, and then they create "their own art", if you say we should pay for just seeing one thing and use it as training material then you would effectively be advocating a dystopia, because firstly it is impossible to charge to see something or to train with it, and secondly because creativity should not be limited by any law. Artificial intelligences learn about the contents and then "re-create" them, they don't actually copy or "blend" anything, because that would mean that we literally store the images inside them and then use some merge function, which is absolutely far from truth. They work through a process of diffusion and regeneration, their neural networks acquire information about the patterns contained in the images through trial and error processes and they manage to generate results through various mathematical functions, they are effectively "new" results in the sense that all that exists in a neural network is a series of millions of neurons and millions or billions of connections between its various layers, there is no "image storage" there, only storage of the patterns that were understood by the neural network, say that this is somehow "blending human contents" is nonsense.
Yes on their bottom tier I think it is $10/mo - they also do have a free option I think where images are licensed under Creative Commons (would have to double check that though)
AI like chatgpt or stable diffusion will make a huge difference by reducing the total amount of work needed, hence reducing total available full time jobs needed in a given field. No AI won't replace all artists, writers and coders. But it will easily replace 80% of them, and the 20% left will be using AI to serve 500% more clients. Fast forward 5 years and the tech is so good it can replace 90%. Another 5 years and it replaces 95% and you'd swear the AI is conscious and smarter than anyone you've ever met, though it's not, it seems that way. Another 10 years and it IS conscious and if you're employing humans you're just wasting money deliberately or serving a fraction of stubborn anti AI customers. This is a serious problem in capitalism, because capitalism is based on wage labour and private profits. we need to think about a UBI to redistrubute some of that profit to the masses just to prevent economic collapse from the severe wealth concentration it will produce or the less likely but preferable option: ditching capitalism and upgrading to an entirely new economic system compatible with AI, automation and sustainability. A system that distributes the benefits of AI and it's vast productivity increases evenly for all to share in the wealth. Needless to say this new system cannot have a class of people that just sit back and collect profits while being served by a vast class of wage labourers, AI is going to shrink the need for a working class and this reality of capitalism was barbaric and unfair to begin with.
Another showcase how ai can make very basic app that people do to learn coding as it's so basic and easy. No it's not ready to replace anyone and make any real world apps. Great helper tool tho.
Another showcase how a dev is turning a creative and pleasant UI concep into a generic, boring and clunky prototype. He basically just used the colors and images, but ditched everything that made the original concept aesthetic. Midjourney as it currently is, is a great tool tho. Just like Wordpress, Webflow oder other tools. It may kill graphic design but there is a bit more tto UX/UI design that just images and colors^^
Very interesting video, but it seems to assume design is solely about how pretty something is and doesn't consider usability at all. Yes 'an' app template was generated, but is it 'the' app that users can actually use? And the 'icons' that were generated aren't icons. They're just small pretty pictures. The whole point of an icon is to be simple and represent something specific in an easily understandable way. These don't do that at all. What's behind them is a total mystery. This tech may eventually be a useful, powerful tool. Why not have some parts of the design workflow be automated? However, having a human in that workflow that knows what questions to ask to get to the'why' of what a user really needs and then translating that between client and developers is gonna be vital for a long time.
Thanks for the comment! Yes I agree this doesn't replace the skills of a designer, but I also think a lot of lower-mid tier range apps aren't using professional designers to create a carefully thought out design/UX. A lot of these applications do just use things like general purpose themes from marketplaces, or just use reasonably standard patterns and don't worry too much about the design. This seems to be a good way to make those sorts of apps a bit "prettier" where there isn't budget for a designer. And yes, I just generated a more or less random icon set and used that here, but I could certainly put some more effort it in here and get Midjourney to design icons for the specific situation (e.g. I could create one icon at a time giving specific instructions as to what it should be).
Side note-- God, Angular is ugly these days. I'm sure it's great for all the people who learned Java in college, but it's just a phenomenal amount of verbose junk for what it accomplishes. React is no beauty itself, but at least it's not playing to the antiquated OOP paradigm. Good video though.
It is useable though, that was the point of the video - I used the generated concepts to create an actual app. You could debate whether what I created was crap or not, but it is a useable app.
@@JoshuaMorony I mean this concepts generated by AI are far from real business tasks and app functionality and real userflows or scenarios Sorry for misunderstanding, you did great job 👍
Please, not Ionic! That framework is horrible for mobile native accessibility. For mobile web only, it's probably fine, but all of its components are web components and therefore provide a horrible user experience when packaged as a native mobile application in one of the app stores.
This is cool if you want to avoid a designer and have a shitty design concept :D Next video make a video how ChatGPT can totally help us avoid you coders :D 🤡
Yes ok, but these aren't actually good designs. For one, the contrast is really week, these are pretty bad for color blind people. Some of those buttons just end up looking all the same. Secondly, These are too noisy, there's too much happening on the screen. If you overwhelm your users in the first 15 seconds, they are just going to ditch your app. Lastly, some of these buttons are just barely touch-friendly. A smaller phone would make some of these unusable... Most of those look like an art piece than an app. I mean they look nice if you don't think about UX or UI. But once you actually consider UX/UI, these are just a fancier version of a kid making a high contrast website with blinking logos and fire gifs in the background. It's all looks, no utility... just sayin'. KISS principle - Keep it simple, stupid
@@minhuang8848 I thought the point was that AI can design an entire app in minutes. Which yes, it can, just badly, and then you still need to put it together yourself, so minutes still turn to hours of time spent on a design that's not great. what did I miss?
@@Hazarth You missed that this enables people without any design experience whatsoever put together themes that would otherwise take them months It doesn't matter that this might not be a perfect UX straight out of the box, that's something we'll quickly be able to abstract away. Just consider how far temporal coherence has come with chatgpt and the next iteration will give you thorough pointers on basic design specs you might want to consider - which even this example still way, way overkills. Maybe it's missing some aspects, but even so it'd still outpace every single billion-dollar company's UX design endeavors, regardless of backend considerations. Yeah duh you still have to put it together, but the sheer amount of work you save by not hiring a concept artist (or, lmao, doing it yourself) alone is off the charts and more than indicative of a trend. Noisy my ass, people already care little about good design, basic UX is good enough if it accomplishes your task. This stuff looks like a million bucks in comparison, and that's just a preliminary attempt at putting together something with the earliest tools. Picking it apart at the seams when it really is more of a proof of concept is just silly.
I'm not scared of AI, as a business owner. Reason being, if they make a car detailing robot my car detailing company will purchase one. If AI renders and edits artwork my graphic design company will simply use ai. Somebody has to type to the ai. Lol. Just makes our jobs wayyyyy easier. If you work for a company, yeah be worried.
The biggest downside of your workflow is that the image you used are not vector So if your app is used on a larger screen then every image in your app is gonna pixelated and horrible
LOL, Designers is about to lose their jobs soon or significantly cut their salaries. Plus there are many "junior-designers" will use AI to overtop "middle/senior designers"
Lmao everyone gonna lose there jobs the whole app/website making thing will go down and people will start to Create their own app although most of them will be useless apps.... but let's be real no one can create spotify, facebook, and youtube with it the usefull apps because useful apps needs ux designers to create design that will make the users hooked and some serious backend coders are also required to run all of those apps.
and i think juniors developers are the ones who are in trouble now cause most of the seniors have years of experience and they understand the inner working of those apps but the juniors developers are clueless they don't even know what they are creating and most of them end up creating useless apps/websites.
@@sussybaka2478 that video gave you the answer. Joshua now doesnt need a Designer. Cause he have AI and BASIC design skills. Imagine how many people now dont need a designer?) Thats the answer.
@@DesGTS did i disagreed with the video absolutely not but I'm saying creating a real world usefull app with 100s of interfaces and lots of backend codes is still not available... i know your answer you'll probably say not yet
Dude thank you for sharing your thought process while doing this, greatly appreciated!
This seems like it would help on the client side. Finding a style slash direction mood boards etc. Clients never know what they want
and then when you give them what they want its not what they want
No you have to draw everything by hand or it's not art!
-some pretentious artist scared of losing his job
As an UI designer, I can say that this is only good for the concept and mood board phase, but nothing for the actual exploration and production of UI assets. At least, not in larger projects where you need full control on everything. For small projects, only created by developers, AI assets are a great solution.
But to give you an idea for the UI exploration: Imagine you show the hero asset your client and he says: "Keep it as it is, but remove the brown leafs and make more like a gradient on the big green leafs. Maybe make them a little bit thinner, try it out and let's see how this looks." At this point you don't want to put your AI asset into Midjourney again, adding the client feedback, and praying to God, that you get good results. You have to re-create it in vector tools like Illustrator, Sketch, or Figma to be able to edit every path and hex value. Alternatively, what could be also supporting the manual work, is putting the chosen concept image into Midjourney, ask for single assets, load them into Illustrator, use the "image to vector" function, and cleaning up and adjusting the vectors.
I have no idea about ui and art but here is my opinion. You are currently absolutely correct. However this ai art has been a resent development. Give it a few years. As it is now ai art is not much more than a concept. When it is actually developed for specific use cases it can do much more.
I would compare it to os and programs. Yes the os can do much but without the correct applications its quite tedious. With programs it can do so much more
Lets say the coding of the app is done with a use specific ai and not an allrounder. An ai just for this one language. Then you have an ai for ui elements, and just ui elements. With the combination of those 2 you have an ai that can make an app. (although there is more to it than just ui and some code) another ai is there for the last tweaks for the client and bam.
Moodboard 100%! Apps are more than just one state of an image. They’re a flow of specific screens, interactions, states, and possible animations. In general, a mobile app should follow best practices and patterns of an OS (iOS/Android) in order for the app to have somewhat of a successful UX and pass store acceptance criteria. AI has a while to go before it starts replacing people entirely.
Side note: The apps used in the video are native wrapper apps which, honestly, are great for quick shits but are the minority when it comes to mobile app creation. They have performance issues at scale and are challenging to hire for. Xcode and AS12 are mainly used.
But for how long...
@@LikesGamePlays AI Art is currently created from already copyrighted material
Give it a few months and all AIs including Midjourney will be sued to hell and back for copyright infringement.
Additionally, What 12XFactor said is correct, this only should be used as a concept. The problem is many people wont and will then continue to make money with stuff thats taken from copyrighted material.
I am all for AI-art mind you. I like the concept of it being used as a tool. But some of you really ought to be thinking both ways instead of just one.
Amazing work! Can you give some more examples of taking mockups and converting them to useable web design or apps, etc. Really interesting
Thanks! - As in basically the same concept as this video but more of it? As I mentioned in the video I think I could do a better job by investing some more time in learning Midjourney and spending longer on the design, so maybe I could do a similar follow up video later
@@JoshuaMorony ☝️💭👨🏫 what are some use cases for using openai to figure out your app requirements for your MVP if you are having trouble identifying your requirements? 🤝🤝🤝
@@JoshuaMorony Yeah, like design an app like a cookbook or flight tracker, something that ends up as a working sellable use case. Also another idea would be to do the same with a website, I saw some videos of amazing site designs via midjourney too. thanks!
This is fascinating and interesting, in order to build apps with the help of Midjourney, we still have a lot of work to do right, unless chatGPT is able to code for us and integrate images generated by Midjourney, but anyhow, this is very inspiring demo tutorial, thank you very much 🙏
Chat gpt can write code. I use to get stuck on some bash scripts but using chat gpt has led to less errors and more productivity
@@joeolso It can not write the code as such. It can understand some concepts and re-create solutions or patterns. It can't grasp new concepts, workaround the issues, and in general apart from skeleton work it actually slows down more experienced programmers than is helpful. It is good for simple quick scripts or repetitive code used everywhere online (to-do lists, simple base structured API). It won't replace programmers - but will increase productivity as you mentioned.
@@HCforLife1 It can be used to accomplish everything you listed above if you break the prompts into steps. I literally did it yesterday. You cant say make this app but you can ask it how it would complete each step and write it proficiently. Im not saying itll replace humans, im saying it makes the talented faster with less errors.
@@HCforLife1 I think Chat GPT is currently gathering a lot of intelligence from people solving its code by raising issues. At least, that would be a nice intelligence on top of intelligence. I agree, it's current way of coding is filled with errors and problems when you tackle more complex problems.
@@Master_of_Chess_Shorts it's truly not error prone in that sense when you consider that the only reason why it can't produce exactly what you want is because you didn't explain yourself correctly or withheld information. If you asked a developer to create a complex piece of software you'd need to specify a lot of stuff to get the product you wanted. Same thing with Chat GPT
As a graphic designer, I'm coming to the conclusion more and more that "graphic design" is more of a staff sort of thing-something almost janitorial, mundane even. We designers like to glorify it and act like it's this super creative thing that requires special creativity and charm-and maybe it is, but I almost feel like at this point, for most use cases it's mostly just rehashing the same old ideas in slightly different ways or combinations. It's a chore and I for one am glad to offload it to an AI.
I'm starting to think that the real magic is in creating products and systems and structures that change the world or our experiences in positive and revolutionary ways. It's in being able to execute on those things and orchestrate the support and resources to make it happen.
I love graphic design and I don't want to minimize its importance or the skill and creativity needed to do it well-it really can work wonders, but so much of the work needed to do it isn't creative or charming or magical. It's just shit that needs to get done-like, just give me something that looks professional, fits the vibe, and doesn't get in the way of the actual product or service. People buy because of what's being offered, not because of what color or shape the buy button is or if the icons are flat icons or line art style. SHEESH!!!
Yep!
100%
Programming is exactly the same. It’s easy to convince yourself as a programmer that the minute technical details (built on decades and decades of increasingly bloated tech), just have to be that way, and you’re special because you know how to work with it despite the complexity. The truth is those technical quirks and complexity you mastered are going to be made irrelevant by AI, and you should be happy you can focus on the bigger picture.
Well you're onto something I believe. Half a decade ago I was working with corporate design. They had a small book full of specifications, what colours to use, what type of font, the size, exact measures for the layout. It was soul crushing work. And already back then I thought, why the fuck isn't there a machine for that?
I really hope you are a relatively new graphic designer or a student to have come to this realization just now. Otherwise I’m not sure how much value you were able to create with your work beforehand, must’ve been stressful.
The random demo apps we see in programming articles are about to look a lot better :)
The crazy thing is this is already usable, and the tech is still improving exponentially. Imagine the disruption the current tech is about to cause. But then what comes in 1-2 years will be even more disruptive.
And just like with the app code you generated last time, what you did involved several steps. It seems easy to write some software to support this specific process. So even if the AI side of things didn't improve, this AI could power some incredible design tools in the near term.
Totally agree this is usable right now - maybe not for high end apps, but for fun/demo things certainly and I think applications for a lot of small-medium sized business/startups where something lacking a bit of polish and a more carefully designed UX is fine (if I wanted to put up some hobby/side project on the app store I would totally use this for the design).
Trying to not get too carried away lol but I've got a lot of comments to the tune of "so what it made a todo app?" etc - to me it's still incredibly impressive and seems to be a sign of where things are headed. To me it kind of feels like mocking image generating AIs for including extra limbs or fingers on people - the fact we are at that point at all is mind blowing, and it seems like it won't take long for the extra limbs and awkwardness of UI designs to disappear.
except the AI already did improve. ChatGPT that was used for the app is from 2021. OpenAI claims their not-yet released generation is 100 times better (whatever it means)... I always tought I could do my job for another 20 years. As of now you still need humans to blend it all together, lets see for how long
@josh did create the app from a midjourney image. But seeing the result. I would consider it can be improved by using the same images the "bot" produced and upscale with AI, if you feel the images became bad. The foliage looks nice but it is possible to get the 100% design from midjourney into a functional app. Just need to tweak those CSS styles, gradients, box-shadows etc.
Therefore I ask, if you can share the images or the prompt producing these images, to give it a shoot, anyhow great work on the app!
@@somerandomchannel382 great idea, and I definitely agree this can be improved with a bit more effort - I've added the original images from Midjourney into the "assets" folder in the source code if you'd like to tinker with it!
@@kraldada6557 ai is using open source and free content from internet to learn, several big sources for that already banned chatgtp so it will stagnate as it will have limited resources to learn from. Even chatgtp creators said it's nowhere close of replacing anyone, it's just another tool to speedup development.
Good tool for getting hero images and web design layouts. I was a graphic artist 10 years ago. I'm not sure how this could affect those kind of jobs honestly. I think a person still needs the knowledge to implement the designs or tweak them and make them work. Might get paid less to do it now though.
Atm, yeah. Next iteration, these bots will understand language, and how to place them, font use.etc.
But you'll still need creatives. What AI does is gets them to their end result much, much faster.
Watching this gave me tingles about my future workflow! I find that our minds gravitate and can be polarized by AI design! Interesting to see in the future if we'll come to a point our minds can pin point AI generation or if the tech advances to the point our mind can't tell the difference
One issue I see immediately is that the images are not in an SVG format which hurts scaling
The designs the AI are making are honestly out of this world. I've never seen such pleasing colour combinations on a real app. I guess android users can design a theme system based on this and it would look wonderful.
Nice stuff man. The color palette used for this app is something special.
I am a iOS dev and this tool is amazing. I believe designers should learn to code.
great
i would like to see more ui like this
i love it
so OpenAI just released their Text-3dImage AI model, time now for image to text more specifically code (maybe use more adv codex which built into the upcoming gpt-4 )
Moodboard 100%! Apps are more than just one state of an image. They’re a flow of specific screens, interactions, states, and possible animations. In general, a mobile app should follow best practices and patterns of an OS (iOS/Android) in order for the app to have somewhat of a successful UX and pass store acceptance criteria. AI has a while to go before it starts replacing people entirely.
Side note: The apps used in the video are native wrapper apps which, honestly, are great for quick shits but are the minority when it comes to mobile app creation. They have performance issues at scale and are challenging to hire for. Xcode and AS12 are mainly used.
On the side note, that's incorrect on all parts imo. It's obviously a bit subjective, but no hybrid/cross-platform apps do not have general performance issues at scale. Again, kind of subjective but hiring for cross-platform is generally going to be easier because it utilises things like general web tech or React which is generally going to be easier to hire for than Objective-C/Swift/iOS developers. And as far as I know the majority of applications on the app store are hybrid/cross-platform not native iOS.
On your first point, I mostly agree. I think for this to be useful right now it still requires the person using it to have an idea about these sorts of things, and even still the end result is going to be less professional than a "proper" design, but I can still see this fulfilling certain roles.
Hey, thank you! How did you generate the image with LOTS OF icons? What prompt did you use? Thank you!
For sure for a PoC this is fine. Prototyping fast is incredibly useful. But this is far from ready for production.
On the designer side I can see this used to take care of coding to produce working useable prototypes.
Yes, i think with this advancements the designers and programmers can merge into a profession that can do these two types of jobs much faster and at unison.
@@will8826 so less people in teams/1 man?
this open so many possibilities thank you for the video
Can't wait to have an image with the possibility to export in SVG.
i have printed this morning exactly the same model vegetable ui ux design to do the exact same thing. and 5 hours later i see this ...
Very interesting I'm definitely going to try this with one of my clients instead of buying assets
What do you put in to get the icons for the same job that you are working with ?
Are there anymore discord AI art generators that are out there right now? I'm looking around and ran into bluewillow and I'm looking around for a few more Have you heard of this one?
Guys, how where the icons created in MidJourney? I mean in minute 1:53 we see six images, and the fifth shows a lot of icons. Do you happen to know how to use the prompt to generate similar to those?
Everyone's excited about AI, or scared, but I personally am pessimistic about it. While I don't think AI will get to the point of eliminating all jobs in both design and/or development (at least not for a long time anyways), all AI is going to do is devalue both design and development (and other many industries). If the internet services get littered with abundance of "decent" art or there's many developers who can do "decent" development, it's going to devalue the work put into it. Simple supply and demand w surplus of supply. For example, the advent of photography, while photos and art used to be more appreciated, it has become the norm and people essentially become "spoiled" rather than appreciative.
Ai is dangerous but if you make for fun then its ok
You don’t have knowledge based job. Your Walmart job will definitely be took over. You can start worrying to
@@cabinmusikslaps as a developer, i can assure you, this ai is capable of spitting out new ideas (albeit primitive at the moment); in the future it is not going to replace ONLY knowledge based jobs ;)
I doubt it, you must have not seen the looting after George Floyd's death. Service jobs are safe for awhile
There's one major flaw in your logic. The customers of AI art are not customers of Human Art. They're different customer segments.
It's the same way the Record Company Industry believes Piracy is Stealing. Which it isn't. It's copying. There's no revenue loss, because if Pirate Bay didn't exist, they wouldn't buy it in the first place.
So while you may think AI is devaluing art. Human art and AI art will be two different products. Similar to digital art and physical art.
Conclusion:
AI is opening up more people to art. Thus making the world more beautiful and less evil. Which will benefit a world on the edge of a WW3 nuclear war.
I'm not sure where you live in the world, but I bought Nuclear Radiation Pills this year, because our government in Europe was anticipating a nuclear explosion and it gives you 99% more chance to survive while eating radioactive food.
The world is in chaos, and AI has given us generated art and automations to distract us from reality.
That's huge W in my book 😄
Will this kill ux/ui? I recently bought into a ux\ui course in order to change careers and up my salary but everything I have been seeing as of late is making me worried I just spent a whole lot of money on something that may be automated reaaaal soon 😢
Ehh look at it like a tool you can use. Somebody still has to type to the Ai. If you can't google search well, you don't get good results.
It could kill ui. Not ux though. Ux pays more anyways
Nope. It's a tool that will speed up the research/ideation process (And maybe kill graphic design & Illustration) and make devs less independent from designers. But a digital product is more than just a creative concept of 2 App screens... Just compare the concept and the prototype result and you will notice that the final product doesn't look as pleasant as the idea.
I am currently working on an app with flutter and ChatGPT so it would kinda make sence for me to also use midjurney for the design!
Very interesting, thank you for your insight
This is fascinating and interesting, in order to build apps with the help of Midjourney, we still have a lot of work to do right, unless chatGPT is able to code for us and integrate images generated by Midjourney, but anyhow, this is very inspiring demo tutorial, thank you very much
Excellent
Are others like Midjourney, Stable diffusion etc made seperately from scratch or are they based on DALLE-2?
From scratch
scratch. Mid journey is better than Dall E for producing high resolution images.
Just compare the pleasant and colorful AI generated concept at 2:40 with your clunky and boring prototype at 3:50... I think the result speaks for itself that it looks like a low budget version of the AI generated concept (No offense).
I think Midjourney is going elevate the job of a UX/UI designer and rather speed up the process, instead of replacing it. AI is going to assist in research, generating images/illustrations and generating ideas and moodboards. But you still need a human to solve problems.
But a digital product is way more than just a ui concept... You still need to refine the UI, create patterns, make the product accessible, create a user journey, create an interactionflow and more important: make the product useful... But it makes design more accessible to developers and people who don't want/need a designer.
This is a game changer for a frontend (not designer) like me
5:57 this you say here, it's the most important of all.
have you tried telling it to make transparent background? 😃
I think I asked it to use a solid/transparent background with no shadows when I generated the icon sets but it still added shadows and the bg wasn't a solid colour - though I suspect maybe people who know what they are doing with Midjourney prompts might be able to get it to actually use a solid colour background to make the assets easier to extract.
@@JoshuaMorony Inpainting and outpainting features would help here. This is where the user draws a mask over parts of the image and asks the AI to regenerate it. (Inpainitng for stuff within the image. Outpainting for stuff beyond the image boundary.) Iteration and feedback loops are also valuable. Take the generated image and use it as an input.
an AI specialized in generating perfect prompts for other AI"s like midjourney
Lol and then another AI to write perfect prompts for that prompt generating AI right??
@@zwenkwiel816 And an AI to generate the code for that AI
@@Inspiredkey.poetry yep, seriously though once AI starts creating and using other AI's we might be fucked XD
A very interesting video!
where is the discord link?
Really love this design and the implementation! Good job 👏
What’s the tool for rendering that iPhone 12 Pro view called though at 5:41 ?
Have seen it in bunch of videos no idea if someone can comment much appreciated ❤
It's the iOS Simulator you get with Xcode - and if you're using Ionic/Capacitor you can also just run "ionic cap run ios" from the command line to launch the app in the simulator
Amazing, this is just the begining of this pandora box xD
but this is a great tool for us developers that don´t have advanced skils of design and want more uniques assets
As a programmer why not use stable diffusion instead? Like my dumb gamer ass could barely get all that github stuff working but it being open source and everything seems to be right up your alley.
Do need a good gpu to run it locally though
Al is this powerful? Man, if it is used for surveillance and cracking down dissenters....
awesome bro
very interesting !!!
Clicked on this video and was like "huh this ain't fireship?" lol
AI won’t be replacing jobs anytime soon, if at all, just changing them. Saying this AI will replace programmers is like saying Googling StackOverflow answers will replace programmers. Or that AI art replaces artists just like Fiverr freelancers using Logo generators replace actual branding agencies.
There’s more to the craft than even just answering questions, like knowing what questions to ask for starters and app architecture.
Personally, I love that I can ask it things and it gives examples. It helps ease figuring out the puzzle of a solution in code despite knowing what is otherwise needed.
I don't have any basis to think whether or not AI will replace these professions entirely eventually (say within our lifetimes), but to me it seems very reasonable to say that it has the potential (tools perhaps marginally better than what we have today) to replace a lot of peoples jobs. Maybe a small dev agency can now use AI + 2 devs to complete all their work, rather than having 5 or 10 devs - if the demand for software as a whole doesn't grow then that is a significant amount of programmers (or designers) that have been replaced.
Well unfortunately I can easily imagine AI, if it will be even slightly better than now, to be able to just spit out the entire code for a program/app you wanted to create. AI is starting to "think" like humans, so what is the thought process of a programmer, who wants to design and make an app? Well first you have to name what the app is going to do, then you list how it is going to do it. Then you need to figure out what code to use in order for the app to do every single thing that it is going to do. one by one, and piece it together. Last part is checking for errors, and checking if the intended funcionality works and looks just like you wanted, and if not, improve and repair. If the AI will be able to understand the intent behind the complicated prompt consisting of the app description, it's look and functionality, I can imagine it will be able to design and code the entire thing in seconds from A to Z, and it looks like it is already not far from that. Even if it won't be perfect, you will be able to order the AI to change the code in specific parts and thus perfect the code to your liking. I really feel like we are not that far from AI with such capabilities. You can also think obout it this way: Humans learn to speak a language, humans invented computers, which have their own language. Humans can't understand raw computers language, so they invented a language (programming) that both humans and computers can understand in order to communicate with computers. Computers do not understand humans language, so humans teach computers their language by using a language they both can understand - programming. Once computers will understand humans language fully, there will be no limitations on what computers can do after speaking with a human, because they will essentially "think" billions of times faster than us. It will no longer be a matter of designing complicated programs and models to make something (no matter easy or superhuman hard) with a computer, it will be simply like asking your all-knowing friend to do something for you, and AI will, like a human, find a way to solve your problem. It does not have to be AGI, it only needs to understand your intent behind your words, so, contextual thinking is the only step they need to teach it to archievie it.
Uhhh trust me, thousands of copywriters have already been replaced. You know how many people work with writing filler content for SEO? All of them. Gone.
oh so that was YOU the other day on midjourney i was wondering who the heck that was making mobile app concepts lmao
Neat!
Someone put the genie back in the bottle.
What is the dribble for?
I'm not fully up to speed with the methodology for the prompts, but I'm pretty sure this is to get it to produce designs similar in style to those you would find showcased on the dribbble website
I just want an app that turns beatboxing into sheet music
So much hysteria about the "AI taking muh job", meanwhile most of the people, including Devs cannot properly use the search engines, neither to formalize their question and to have a dialogue with other people.
And so somehow they should to be better with it, with technology that's all about right made prompts with a tasks description and validating how correct output is.
Hey there, just wanted to chime in and say that as a human, I am constantly amazed by the advancements in artificial intelligence. It's incredible to see AI being able to design an entire app in minutes like this. Keep up the amazing work!
That’s amazing. Is it free?
The title reads as : I used an AI to help me design my app.
Don't read it incorrectly as an AI made my app in minutes.
It's a play in words to confuse you while not lying to you in any way.
But AI didn't write the code. Why not?
Revolutionary!
does chat gpt give different replies back?
What it means for designers more broadly: goodbye designers, time to learn a new profession.
Lol. Just take a look at the concept and then at the prototype he build... Let's ignore UX for a moment but just based on the UI, does the prototype look worse or better than the concept he used as reference? ;)
AI creating new job about creating videos about no jobs
It really is a political task to distribute the remaining work equally when more and more of it becomes automated.
Keynes had this vision, that one day, machines will do most of the work and we'd all have to work way less (instead of producing even more). We need thought-through reforms to make it happen.
When everything is automated, capitalism will obsolete. The next social reform, will not be pretty tho
@@iliaadamanthark8336 Doesn't it depend on the reform if its outcome is pretty or not? What do you expect to be not so pretty?
Isn't not reforming anything going to lead to some not so pretty outcome?
Right now, there is an (understandable) incentive to fight off improvements in productivity as incomes are linked to labour - the needed amount of which can be done by fewer and fewer people and leaves more people without income as a consequence. So we have to either find working ways to distribute that labour more equally or decouple labour and income to a degree.
@@midnattsol6207 I mean, the process towards the goal/reform, will not be pretty. It's power play, between the super rich vs everybody else. I think at the end of it, humanity will dwindle into a very small numbers of group. That will be good for the earth tbh, but won't be pretty for everyone affected i.e. The normal Joe like us.
@@iliaadamanthark8336 oh ok, i understand. That power struggle defnitly (already) is a thing, yes.
@@midnattsol6207 Yeah, and now it would be exponentially worsen, as the AI grows exponentially. Hope we will be allright tho.
Here some AI generated melody for some inspiration
ruclips.net/video/Emidxpkyk6o/видео.html
This is just a beggining of AI
If you combine Invoke AI with midjourney, all your cons disappear! Complete control.
Yeah, I know this would happen. I mean, I discovered just 6 days ago.
rip UI designers
lets just hope the world evolves into a place where we are compensated for job loss by AI instead of the top 0.01% monopolizing it
Hello Joshua 💡👨🏫 a couple buddies of mine and I are trying to design a graphic design mobile and web app! How can the tools in your video be used to code and develop an app script! For an MVP and also for designing it as well? ☝️💭 Our problem is that we are having trouble identifying our requirements to make an alternative to something like vectornator for iOS
An app that doesn't do anything ain't an app 🙂 It's a front-end. Visual Basic allowed developers to throw together some UI. Shocker: you still had to write code to make it do something useful.
Im using GPT to make php scripts for me lol. NO MORE CODIN- shit i ran into the daily message limit ;(
Some of people say that this will become an end of developers / graphic designers. But ask one question. Who will maintain that work and check correctness? Yeah sure another bot... AI...
Daybyday,
AI developed and men's workplace is decreasing.
😍
Currently, the problem with AI-generated images is that the AI is not necessarily creating anything on its own. It is basically taking the totality of human creation and blending it all together. The problem arises that some of the information the AI is taking consists of copyrighted material! I see the potential of future litigation on the horizon if this is not addressed currently. As for the coding aspects of ChatGPT, you still, currently, have to know how to code to check the code to see if it will work, and will likely require a coder to fix certain portions to get it to work!
What if I told you that every human form of expression ever has been built on the totality of prior human expression and experience? Nothing is original. Everything is derivative. No one has ever done anything on their own.
@@Dheeidjdndbd that's a tight slap🤣
@@Dheeidjdndbd The main point I am making is that the potential for copyright infringement exists and is based on where they are getting the information they are using to train the AI.
Another thing is the original ideas behind the many visualizations had to stem from somewhere because they did not just spring up from thin air!
I do agree that inspiration derives from building upon what has come before more often than not!
@@mind_of_a_darkhorse
This is bullshit. For the following reasons:
1. Copyright is absurd, no one should own intellectual standards, it's an incredibly dystopian notion in itself
2. Artificial intelligences just consume the content and try to learn from it, not much different from what humans do. Artists lay eyes on something and obviously draw inspiration from that thing, it doesn't matter if it was "copyright material" or whatever, and then they create "their own art", if you say we should pay for just seeing one thing and use it as training material then you would effectively be advocating a dystopia, because firstly it is impossible to charge to see something or to train with it, and secondly because creativity should not be limited by any law. Artificial intelligences learn about the contents and then "re-create" them, they don't actually copy or "blend" anything, because that would mean that we literally store the images inside them and then use some merge function, which is absolutely far from truth. They work through a process of diffusion and regeneration, their neural networks acquire information about the patterns contained in the images through trial and error processes and they manage to generate results through various mathematical functions, they are effectively "new" results in the sense that all that exists in a neural network is a series of millions of neurons and millions or billions of connections between its various layers, there is no "image storage" there, only storage of the patterns that were understood by the neural network, say that this is somehow "blending human contents" is nonsense.
@@diadetediotedio6918 I hope the law and lawyers agree with you! But anywhere there is money to be made will always draw the capitalistic vultures!
The title should be designing ASSESTS.... Not designing the app
Did you pay for midjourney?
Yes on their bottom tier I think it is $10/mo - they also do have a free option I think where images are licensed under Creative Commons (would have to double check that though)
AI like chatgpt or stable diffusion will make a huge difference by reducing the total amount of work needed, hence reducing total available full time jobs needed in a given field. No AI won't replace all artists, writers and coders. But it will easily replace 80% of them, and the 20% left will be using AI to serve 500% more clients. Fast forward 5 years and the tech is so good it can replace 90%. Another 5 years and it replaces 95% and you'd swear the AI is conscious and smarter than anyone you've ever met, though it's not, it seems that way. Another 10 years and it IS conscious and if you're employing humans you're just wasting money deliberately or serving a fraction of stubborn anti AI customers. This is a serious problem in capitalism, because capitalism is based on wage labour and private profits. we need to think about a UBI to redistrubute some of that profit to the masses just to prevent economic collapse from the severe wealth concentration it will produce or the less likely but preferable option: ditching capitalism and upgrading to an entirely new economic system compatible with AI, automation and sustainability. A system that distributes the benefits of AI and it's vast productivity increases evenly for all to share in the wealth. Needless to say this new system cannot have a class of people that just sit back and collect profits while being served by a vast class of wage labourers, AI is going to shrink the need for a working class and this reality of capitalism was barbaric and unfair to begin with.
Another showcase how ai can make very basic app that people do to learn coding as it's so basic and easy. No it's not ready to replace anyone and make any real world apps. Great helper tool tho.
Another showcase how a dev is turning a creative and pleasant UI concep into a generic, boring and clunky prototype. He basically just used the colors and images, but ditched everything that made the original concept aesthetic.
Midjourney as it currently is, is a great tool tho. Just like Wordpress, Webflow oder other tools. It may kill graphic design but there is a bit more tto UX/UI design that just images and colors^^
There are tricks to bypass $10-$30/mo for midjourney..
This is fantastic.
People need to embrace this.
Where is you user research and testing ? Lol is just a tool, a great tool.
That's not really designing an app. It's more like designing the concept art for an app.
It's more like prototyping an downgraded low budget version of a nice concept.
Very interesting video, but it seems to assume design is solely about how pretty something is and doesn't consider usability at all. Yes 'an' app template was generated, but is it 'the' app that users can actually use? And the 'icons' that were generated aren't icons. They're just small pretty pictures. The whole point of an icon is to be simple and represent something specific in an easily understandable way. These don't do that at all. What's behind them is a total mystery.
This tech may eventually be a useful, powerful tool. Why not have some parts of the design workflow be automated? However, having a human in that workflow that knows what questions to ask to get to the'why' of what a user really needs and then translating that between client and developers is gonna be vital for a long time.
Thanks for the comment! Yes I agree this doesn't replace the skills of a designer, but I also think a lot of lower-mid tier range apps aren't using professional designers to create a carefully thought out design/UX. A lot of these applications do just use things like general purpose themes from marketplaces, or just use reasonably standard patterns and don't worry too much about the design. This seems to be a good way to make those sorts of apps a bit "prettier" where there isn't budget for a designer. And yes, I just generated a more or less random icon set and used that here, but I could certainly put some more effort it in here and get Midjourney to design icons for the specific situation (e.g. I could create one icon at a time giving specific instructions as to what it should be).
It looks like trash to me. 10 years exp in design
plenty of trash designs made by "actual designers"
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"as long as it's pg" and not suggesting anything near what they may consider politically objectionable.
Side note-- God, Angular is ugly these days. I'm sure it's great for all the people who learned Java in college, but it's just a phenomenal amount of verbose junk for what it accomplishes. React is no beauty itself, but at least it's not playing to the antiquated OOP paradigm. Good video though.
This is only concept. Its not usable
It is useable though, that was the point of the video - I used the generated concepts to create an actual app. You could debate whether what I created was crap or not, but it is a useable app.
@@JoshuaMorony I mean this concepts generated by AI are far from real business tasks and app functionality and real userflows or scenarios
Sorry for misunderstanding, you did great job 👍
@@JoshuaMorony it is not usable because you can't use or steal designs from dribble for your app.
Whoever is creating these AI tools should please stop
no, am waiting for skynet, been out of time for too long
how the fk will ai replace our jobs its not possible yes its smart but its still just scraping information on multiple website.
Nice clickbait
Please, not Ionic! That framework is horrible for mobile native accessibility. For mobile web only, it's probably fine, but all of its components are web components and therefore provide a horrible user experience when packaged as a native mobile application in one of the app stores.
Web design will die soon, 5-10 +- ))
This is cool if you want to avoid a designer and have a shitty design concept :D Next video make a video how ChatGPT can totally help us avoid you coders :D 🤡
Yes ok, but these aren't actually good designs. For one, the contrast is really week, these are pretty bad for color blind people. Some of those buttons just end up looking all the same. Secondly, These are too noisy, there's too much happening on the screen. If you overwhelm your users in the first 15 seconds, they are just going to ditch your app. Lastly, some of these buttons are just barely touch-friendly. A smaller phone would make some of these unusable... Most of those look like an art piece than an app. I mean they look nice if you don't think about UX or UI. But once you actually consider UX/UI, these are just a fancier version of a kid making a high contrast website with blinking logos and fire gifs in the background. It's all looks, no utility...
just sayin'. KISS principle - Keep it simple, stupid
you are missing all the points here
@@minhuang8848 I thought the point was that AI can design an entire app in minutes. Which yes, it can, just badly, and then you still need to put it together yourself, so minutes still turn to hours of time spent on a design that's not great.
what did I miss?
@@Hazarth You missed that this enables people without any design experience whatsoever put together themes that would otherwise take them months
It doesn't matter that this might not be a perfect UX straight out of the box, that's something we'll quickly be able to abstract away. Just consider how far temporal coherence has come with chatgpt and the next iteration will give you thorough pointers on basic design specs you might want to consider - which even this example still way, way overkills. Maybe it's missing some aspects, but even so it'd still outpace every single billion-dollar company's UX design endeavors, regardless of backend considerations.
Yeah duh you still have to put it together, but the sheer amount of work you save by not hiring a concept artist (or, lmao, doing it yourself) alone is off the charts and more than indicative of a trend. Noisy my ass, people already care little about good design, basic UX is good enough if it accomplishes your task. This stuff looks like a million bucks in comparison, and that's just a preliminary attempt at putting together something with the earliest tools. Picking it apart at the seams when it really is more of a proof of concept is just silly.
@@minhuang8848 Are you a manager at some company? You talk exactly like a manager: Nothing matters, but we make money, so it's good
No to AI art , using shit to create art with AI is a no no it steals doesn't create
just pay someone
I'm not scared of AI, as a business owner. Reason being, if they make a car detailing robot my car detailing company will purchase one. If AI renders and edits artwork my graphic design company will simply use ai. Somebody has to type to the ai. Lol. Just makes our jobs wayyyyy easier. If you work for a company, yeah be worried.
The biggest downside of your workflow is that the image you used are not vector
So if your app is used on a larger screen then every image in your app is gonna pixelated and horrible
I think stable diffusion through gimp or Krita has a vector output option
LOL, Designers is about to lose their jobs soon or significantly cut their salaries. Plus there are many "junior-designers" will use AI to overtop "middle/senior designers"
Lmao everyone gonna lose there jobs the whole app/website making thing will go down and people will start to Create their own app although most of them will be useless apps.... but let's be real no one can create spotify, facebook, and youtube with it the usefull apps because useful apps needs ux designers to create design that will make the users hooked and some serious backend coders are also required to run all of those apps.
and i think juniors developers are the ones who are in trouble now cause most of the seniors have years of experience and they understand the inner working of those apps but the juniors developers are clueless they don't even know what they are creating and most of them end up creating useless apps/websites.
@@sussybaka2478 that video gave you the answer. Joshua now doesnt need a Designer. Cause he have AI and BASIC design skills. Imagine how many people now dont need a designer?) Thats the answer.
@@DesGTS did i disagreed with the video absolutely not but I'm saying creating a real world usefull app with 100s of interfaces and lots of backend codes is still not available... i know your answer you'll probably say not yet
@@DesGTSLike this represents all design needs and we haven’t seen frameworks, themes, templates before that trying to solve design.