noma snow blower clutch repair
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- this was a big pain but had to be done, I did a temp fix on this snowblower last winter but now its time to fix it right. so watch along and help me trouble shoot the problem,
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I'm aware this video is two years old and living in Texas I've never seen a snow blower let alone worked on one. Found this repair to be utterly fascinating as I felt I was right there trying to figure out how to remove that darn bracket. Great video Mustie! Whenever I hear you say "Let's get into it" I'm along for the ride. Thanks for all the premium content.
I watched this video because of the Noma snowblower. Just last month I sold an Estate brand snowblower made by Noma (out of Jackson,TN) that I had purchased in 1991, and had used and maintained ever since in WI. It was still in good shape after 26 years.These were pretty well made machines. Noma sold these under a number of brands: Estate, Spirit, Dynamark and Canadiana to name just a few. They were all the same except for the brand decals and slightly different paint schemes. In the mid-90's Noma was bought by Murray and you can see that all the Murray s'blowers from the late 90's on have Noma's distinctive auger bucket shape, nothing really changed except the name. Even some sears craftsman blowers were made by murray and had the noma auger bucket shape into the 2000's. Murray eventually got absorbed into Briggs & Stratton.
Typical, the part most likely to break is the one that's hardest to get to. It must have been designed by the Mitsubishi headlight globe design team.
BTW, as I'm watching you struggle to get the darn thing apart I'm watching the video carefully but as far as I can tell there are no swearing edits.
You sir, are a legend !
Some people are very zen about repairing things, part of why this channel is so relaxing. I'd probably be cursing up a storm trying to get something apart.
Sera oh I would've probably quit half way through.
No, GM designed it along side the Chevy Malibu which requires you to remove to bumper to replace the headlight bulb.
Really ? I thought it was only my Mitsubishi with that 'brilliant' design.
Ellesmere Wildwood
I'm a used car dealer. I've seen many of things I'd like to punch engineers for doing. My guess is they're giving the service departments job security. But of course it only pisses off customer. $10 bulb and 1-2 labor hours at $90 or so an hour.
Those of us who are not mechanics are amazed by those who are. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills.
Thank you for the super video of the repair on the noma snowblower . I have a 12 hp × 33 inch I purchased used probably 20 years ago +
Retired in 2003 and bought when working ,time flies..
The small gear/ sprocket ( 7 tooth lost its teeth. I later determined due to using single wheel drive which allows axle left / rt movement of about ¾ inch , making chain chop away at sprocket teeth. If I use single again I will install spacers on axle to keep centered. Doesn't happen in knocked wheel drive.
Anyway I watched your video at least twice and fully believe it made my job so much easier knowing ahead of time what I was dealing with. I toolk.lots of pics as no manual/ parts breakdown to refer to . I had to pretty much take everything apart in order to get to the one bolt n the inner bearing for the drive sprocket .
I finally found an un bored 7 tooth sprocket designed to install a key and setscrew to be machined as needed. . Decided against key as not original and research said keys not advised if sprockets reverse rotation. .
A friend with a lathe turned the shaft down to roughly ½ in and then we bored sprocket to ½ in. Ended up doing a 3 -4 thou press fit to a shoulder left on shaft as a stop . Oh ,, forgot ,,, ?? !! I REMOVED THE LARGE SPROCKET FIRST . For access and to handle shaft. Appears it was silver soldered on as I had sprocket totally red , ,, inherently it's,, shaft/ bearings are metric. Had to beat large sprocket flat as distorted slightly from force .
Before installing/ pressing sml sprocket on I removed the majority of setscrew key collar. Pressed on easily using only a vise , then welded tacks on inside . Large sprocket was also welded on from inside. . Even painted but red . Had to refer to pics a couple times for confidence and once when I allowed the clutch wheel to slide off and ?? Which way was it on her shaft . ..beats putting more together and finding backwards.
Got t🎉ogether with a couple warmish sunny days here in Colorado sun in the quanset .
Im.watching your video while typing this and your speaking is so relaxed it's a calling to do future videos. I did especially look at the welds on the fork assy you replaced,, looked like well made. I can't imagine how you managed to do the video and the work too. Definitely Hollywood quality . Or better.
Blower is back together and ready for next snow which will surely come in next 2 months .
I even found the belt cover I'd removed 6 months previous and put blower back in garage and forgot about it. Didn't remember the bad sprocket till big snow prediction and when finally started precautionary I realized I'd forgotten its problem .
Again , Great video . And if anyone needs a pic or info more than I described feel free to call me at 908 577 1647 .
Hope this gets to you as your video was made quite a while ago.
Hi mr. Iam hunting some information on my oldtimer . Its an NOMA CANADIANA 1032 2 stage, orange with black walls on the house. 10hk tech engine. No ide from wich year, HELP :-)
Wow Darren I’m sitting at my bench putting a sax back together watching you take this snow blower apart. What a job you are doing! Bravo! This is the the third time I’ve watched this one. It’s a favorite along with the “Lost In The Snowstorm “ episode.
Thanks Darren! This is very similar to my own Noma snowblower (ca 1986) … haven’t had to do anything major to it except replace the rotted out gas line , but it’s nice to know how to fix it if needed. Great thing about snowblowers is they’re fairly clean on the inside - no grass clippings or a lot of rust.
Hey Mustie, I am working on exactly the same blower and it has exactly the same problem. Unfortunately I don't have the tools to make a new bushing so I have to wait for the parts delivery. With your video it is going to be much easier to remember how it all goes back together. Thank you for helping me without even knowing it.
heiko K at the auto parts store you may be able to find one in those little red "help" packages. I think one pack is assorted size bushings.
hope the repair went well
The very best one yet. I've watched maybe a hundred hours, and this is the best because, it is a repair of a repair, total tear down and for a friend. An honest exchange , and great patience. Very impressive job, thank you.
Reminds me of some of the maintenance I've done. Much of the time is spent figuring out how to get the part out and normally ends with most of the equipment disassembled. After you have done it once it becomes much easier because you know what you have to do. A good shop manual ( not an owner's manual) can really help but is generally either hard to get and/or expensive. Reassembly is generally faster but more prone to finding a loose part which requires a full disassembly to get into the right spot. You do that a couple of times and you get really good at reassembly.
Much of the weird stuff engineers come up with is to either make it less expensive to manufacture ( not fix), get around patents or because the "best" part is not necessarily the best from a maintenance point of view. You get the planned obsolescence and force them to use our parts factions as well.
Hands of a doctor and patience of a Sainte. I would have given four minutes in and beat it with an ugly stick. Great job.
What a nightmare adventure. Your level of patience is amazing. No anger.
Wow, that was a tough repair Mustie. You had to take most of the of the machine apart to get at the broken lever. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
Pete Ciallella. And what a ride it was...lol..
Nice job! Was watching at work in beautiful sunny s. Fla. A couple of people asked what I was watching, and I told them. They reminded me we don’t need snowblowers here. I patiently explained it was for educational purposes, much like watching ........!
One of them was a County Commissioner of the county which I work for.
I think you grew up in the snow belt and miss the winters sometimes...Admit it...lol
Holly cow talk about reconstructive surgery! Now I know why there are literally 60 snow blowers between 3-6 years old with "small problems" here locally on Craig's List. Great informative video Mustie, thank you for bringing it to us.
I have this exact machine. Bought brand new in 1998. It's 20 years old now. Believe me I have put this thing thru it's paces every year. It's never given me any issues. Only regular maintenance... ie.. oil change and tune up, changed the belts and the odd shear pin. Tecumseh engine still running strong!!!
Master machanic ,parts maker ,patience, its spider man,no Mustie1.I have learned more from you then any other.!!!!!!!!!!
You are a good neighbor glad you are back missed your good humor and sharing your skill !
I was surprised you didn't put a quick additional tack or two on the shaft where the original failed. Easy when new/out, sure would hate to have to go thru this again... :)
RichE
I was thinking the same thing.
Me too.
yep same :D
Yeap, that one would have frustrated the dickens out of me. You are a combination of skill, knowledge, patience and tenacity. Thanks Mustie for yet another fun video.
I have to say , I've learned a lot from your videos , sir. You are go to for "how to" if I come across any problems with mechanical issues .
Oh Hell No ! I would have been so frustrated and positive that there was no way in hell I'd ever get it all back together correctly, that I would have looked around for my 12 pound sledge and extracted some vengeance. Then go buy the neighbor a replacement.
You are the man.
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Had to stop watching at 33 minutes in...couldn't handle seeing if one of those washers fell off!You are a better man than I, it would have been treated to a good four pound hammering in my workshop.
Royal PITA, that thing. Your reassembly skills are world-class.
I like how you can go online and seemingly buy any parts you need for any project and for cheap. Great.
I feel your pain.. picked up one that was free...no drive...figured shear pin or disc....noooo....same problem this one had.
Perfect editing Mustie, just keeping us on track with the meatier parts of the repair. Helps keep the focus.
Not to pick nits, but the proper name for those retainers is cotter PIN, not cotter key. Your videos are a blast to watch, reminds me of me!!
Well done mustie :-D, that looked like a right pain.
Your neighbour is very lucky to get your help, if he had took it to a repair shop they would have empted his pockets.
Hope you enjoyed your vacation :-D
Darin/aka Mustie1 big thanks for teaching me by example. Gonna have snow here in southern MN and I had to get my non working lawn tractor working. did your "cold Start" method. To my suprise I found a "Mouse"nest and black walnuts from my yard. Had to charge the battery a few times to run it as I don't have a battery pack. Happy to say The lawn tractor is running with power again. Thanks for your mentoring as with this video. Have one of these sitting in my garden shed.
I LOVE that electric start, I have an ariens snowblower and one cold day it wouldn't start so I hooked up the power and I held that start button and 10 seconds later the engine started. Mess with me snowblower, say hello to my little friend.
Well, I found the part on line. I was able to do this same exact job, this video helped me out immensely. Thank you.
I was going to junk the same snowblower with the same problem till I watched your vid. fixed it right up
I just wanted to say welcome back musty1 i hope your vacation was enjoyable. I missed me my musty1 video's. I look forward too all of them you showed me how to keep my mower running. And i want to say thanks
Seems like they build the whole snow blower around that little metal piece.
Hope you had a great vacation nice to have you back now give us videos we were in withdrawal.
I think this is the exact fix that my snow blower needs. Thanks.
Actually cheered when the drive disc finally came out...what a PITA. Glad you had a barter deal in place...my neighbor probably wouldn't like me any more after he got my bill for that...
Good grief. It would have been easier to change a wrist pin. I'm glad you're back to making videos. Hope you had a nice vacation.
Hope you had a great vacation brother glad to see you back stay safe
That assembly sure was a Pain in the Arse! I was stressed just from watching - haha. When you asked “what do you think” when trying to figure out the next step, I was talking to the screen.
But as usual you figured it out and got it done and done right! Good video! It was nice to see that the vacation went well with the family! You needed a break anyway!
When you were cutting the brass part on the lathe I was definitely thinking oh look he can make a shoulder without any extra effort. :) but you managed to pull it off in your own way. Looks good.
I was thinking the same. He had another plan and he showed us! Chuck in Kansas
MrWoodfiddler cheers from Vancouver canada
Glad to have you back, missed the dry humour and sense of calm. Keep it up we all love your vids.
Love your videos...if everyone sent you something to fix we would have more videos ....you are the master !!!
I'll send you something in the future.and after you fix it you can keep it...that would be worth a video...
Thanks for the video. I will be replacing the same part as soon as it arrives. This should save me a lot of time. Thanks again
easier to buy another snowblower... your a braver man then I...
Trying to get that friction disc out myself as I have to replace both bearings for that shaft assembly.
thanks for the video.
At about 34:30 I was looking at the spring on the bench and wondering where that went. There was also the rear fixings on the belly pan to fix. A job that needed a lot of patience so well done.
Hi Mustie1, You did again and as always a nice job, a good old handmade thumbs up to you, and again thanks for your fine videos, love them.
A Plant Operations VP was fed up with his Design and Manufacturing engineers. He had both groups responsible for the product come to the assembly line to not only make product but also quota per hour. After strugling with equipment failures and design stack up problems they had produced the equivalent of 30 minutes of product in 3 hours. They were mandated to work all weekend for free to fix their mistakes. The design you are working with is an example of that kind of engineering.
That is the first starter that uses an extension cord I've ever seen. It probably isn't popular with battery manufacturers. I'm going to go look that up. Another excellent video.
A true craftsman....love your videos..don't change a thing
Every time I see a repair like this I want to find the engineer that designed the thing and slap him! That was a royal PITA. As someone else commented, it appeared that the the entire unit was built around that one piece! Great video - VERY informative. Keep 'em comin'. Be well, Don
Nice to see somebody looking after a machine 👍 interesting as ever thanks
I have the same exact machine with the same exact problem. Great video very helpful. Right now in debating whether to diy or send it to a shop.
Usually the welds break on that box that holds the drive plate with those Nomas. In order to weld it this same teardown is required. I hope you like your neighbor.
I own one of these. Had to replace that upper drive gear. No choice but complete disassembly. Bought it used. Lack of maintenance from previous owner.
About time... Good to see you back to working on things. I was going through withdrawal here.
What a pain in the butt...I hope I never have to go through that repair .Good job and thanks for posting .
Hi Darren, hope you enjoyed your vacation as much as I did!!! Love your videos, please keep 'em coming!!!
I have 1850sqft garage and mine is just as tight to move in as yours! I would not have it any other way. I have a smithy 1220 lathe that is such a handy little machine!
Nice work,
Thanks for bringing us along.
Steve,
I just found one on the curb, brought it home drained the yellow gas removed the float bowl, it was surprising clean except for bits floating in the yellow gas, sprayed it down with carb cleaner reinstalled it put in some new gas plugged it in pressed the button and it roared to life and ran great, now it's a matter of freeing up the drive and auger mechanism, it drives but it sounds like the chain is tight, a bit of lube I hope is all it needs.
great video. you have a lot of patience.
Digging around old videos now to see if you have changed much. So far, thankfully, you are still the same cool cat with greasy paws.
Boy I hope you got paid well for all that work. Nice video
99% of the time I say Yes. "I agree." go for it. Thanks for doing these man.
You sir and an awesome genius with machines!
"It like Chinese puzzle. If you move in correct sequence, access to glorious and ancient engineering wonders await you".
That is the one thing about snowblowers/throwers. The design is awesome for what it does. But to access the workings, in the transmission, is like Mission Impossible. Go under this laser and do a back flip, etc.. They do work and they are definitely a no argument replacement for shoveling snow. Unless you are 21. Still. Great job Mustie1, as usual.
You do know that only good mechanics talk to themselves... Good fix.
Good to see you back in the shop Mustie!
Think i would have cut a big hole under the motor for access and weld it again...enjoy all your vids
Todd Leather. Either that or put a door on it...lol..
Liked this video bro as do not see snow blowers where I live as we only get a light dusting of snow on the ranges although not for a year or two now. Planet is definitely warming up.
You certainly went to battle on this one! Appreciate viewing your determination to get this back to working order...I can relax a bit when I know that even the talented mechanics can get burned on machines that you have to disassemble the whole machine in order to get to the repair. Myself, I feel the stress with every part I have to remove! -You are cool under pressure! (At least in the final RUclips upload you are! -lol)
Just found your channel last week - love what you do brother! Keep it rolling!
This guy must never sleep!!!
You have a lot of patience! I would have broke something by now!
Reminds me of the Ariens I restored, lots of head scratching in that transmission area. Nice blower, has grease zerks which you won’t find today.
Just in the past few minutes when I saw this video thumbnail, to this point when I opened it, it's earned a fresh 2,000 views.
So good to see you back on youtube after your small break.
Such patience! I would have pitched it out in the street half way through. NICE WORK.
I have 3 (three) fairly new snowblowers to look at-all dual stage like yours-BUT all have different problems
with awgers or transmission and/ or BOTH
-since ALL made CHEAP these days,with plastic parts and THIN metal
-where my 30 year old unit has ALL METAL parts-brass bushings AND CAST IRON transmissions ~
for both awger and drive ~when stuff made to last ~ ~bit heavier but STILL WORKING
although I installed modern ohv Chinese engine on unit about 5 yrs ago
Great video.. Same color as my old Gilson.
I've learned a lot from your videos. You have a lot of technical knowledge and classic know how which is hard to find nowadays. You speak clearly and concisely, and can hold a viewers attention. In essence you're a great teacher. I subscribed because your channel is top notch. Nice work, and thanks for all the videos. Looking forward to watching more videos.
That was one hell of a fix . well done!!
At the 15 minute mark I wouldn't put that thing in a box and left in on my neighbor's front steps.
You're a lefty, too! So is John on CarsAndCameras...Two creative minds!!
A lot of people just tip them up onto the face of the auger housing. Some drain all the fluids first, others just shut the gas valve off and screw a ziploc bag under the gas cap.
Great patience and video thanks!
When I need to work on the transmission of my snow blower, I usually stand the machine up on the auger scoop. No need to split it or take off the engine.
yeah but you are not trying to film it.
Glad you are back!!
Watching this video reminded me that I need to fix my snowblower
should have added a Mustie weld around the new part before you installed it. factory weld looked a bit on the cheap side. all in all a very nice job, again, as usual.
you are very patient !
man you are one patient dude, great job as usual
Mustie you are good enjoy wAtching your videos
Its not easy and yes your doing the right thing good job again
*Darrin watch out for the newspapers lol... Nice job on the Noma* Last time I saw a Noma was on Lynols Office
Outstanding Video buddy. TY!
That broken snowblower still looks better than the POS my family and neighbor share, which I think says we need to get a new one. The only thing reliable about ours is that it tends to reliably start, and it definitely reliably clogs up with wet snow and ice (it's a pile).