I go to Co-op, get 50 pound bag of trace mineral salts, and 50 pound bag of calcium diphosphate. Mix them 50-50 Deer tear the spot up. I put together 1 gallon bags, Ziploc bags of it. Find rotted stumps and pour one bag on each stump. Do this just before the rain and the stump will be soaked with it. Deer will eat out the stump. By placing multiple multiple multiple very small sites each deer can find the place that they like.
I do 2-50lb bag of trace, 50lb bag of cattle mineral and 50lb fine stock salt.. I can't seem to find the calcium diphosphate. I use them in 2:1:1 ratio.
Thanks, Spencer, glad we could help share some info. As others have mentioned, there are several alternatives out there that we didn't cover in the video too.
I just found your channel yesterday and I can't believe that people ain't watching and liking these videos. I've watched about half of your videos and 👍🏼 on them. Thanks for the videos
Derek Droc Thanks Derek! We're just a couple of guys from North Central PA who love whitetails and all things outdoors! We haven't been putting these videos together for too long and because we aren't on TV with 35 different endorsements putting 200" B&C or P&Y bucks on the wall each week, we grow our channel through guys like you, so, thanks for the comments! Be sure to subscribe and share!
I agree with much of this review. I do question the type of salt which is used. Trophy Rock comes close to what the deer needs as it is a type of sea salt. I suspect many companies use processed table salt which has 2 minerals and aluminum which is toxic to all living things including humans. Top Scientist agree that Calcium plays only a minor role in bone or antler growth and is the carrier for minerals. Bones and antlers are MOSTLY minerals... not calcium. The other minerals that make up bones and antlers are as follows... Boron, Chromium, Iron, Manganese, Selenium, Sulfur, Silica, Potassium, Phosphorus, Zink and 64 other trace minerals. Sea salt has all of them as in your blood. I suggest using rock salt which is sea salt and the makers of these products should do the same for the benefit of the animals. Ever wonder why deer are attracted to the roads in wintertime? They are after the rock salt spread on the roads for one. You mentioned Iodine... that could be a clue that they use regular salt even though it's a mineral. I'm a hunter and I've tried many of these products on your video... and yes many claims are a joke. I also agree that vitamins play a role but most man made vitamins don't work and can't be absorbed. Vitamins from the foods deer eat in the wild are much better and the Calcium from grass is in the correct form for us and deer to absorb into the cells... manufactured calcium is NOT! Concrete is made from calcium, the wrong type and I suspect it's used in these products... so I question that. I hope this helps clear up a few things but I'm sure it will cause more question also. Maybe I should start making this stuff the right way and make a lot of money with a good product made the right way... Lol!!!
I find it funny that you added a website for the whitetail institute and did not mention the acorn rage in a bag, or antler king trophy mineral. A quick internet search finds that the Antler King trophy mineral actually has 14% less salt, while having more calcium and phosphorus, along with having more ingredients. If you are going to do a comparison, don't compare something that is actually better than what you are paid to use, it doesn't look good... We all know it is much more cost effective to mix our own, and we control what we want in it that way.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Chris. Each product was given careful consideration and we can assure you, was not sponsored or paid for by anyone. Our goal was to provide an honest review of some of the products that were available on the market at the time the video was done. Acorn Rage is really nothing more than a plant-based attractant that serves little on the basis of true mineral supplementation. We almost felt it wasn’t even worth including. As for the Antler King mineral - while the packaging asserts two dozen years of science and research along with countless minerals and vitamins - when our video was produced none of the bags offered any sort of guaranteed analysis. It really left us scratching our heads as to why such an important piece of information was excluded from the packaging. On the other hand, their Hi-protein Big Buck Block DID have a guaranteed analysis. Like most plant-based products, though, it offered more in the way of crude protein than antler building minerals. Nonetheless, we felt it did serve a useful purpose and was thereby included in our commentary.
Thanks @Joseph Bowersox! We appreciate your support, hopefully there's some material we've done that you've found useful! If you have any suggestions for a future video, feel free to let us know!
A commenter below also brought up Antler King. We reviewed their 25lb High protein big buck block and were pretty happy to see the salt-calcium-phosporous ratio so it made our cut. Surprisingly, though, the Antler King mineral left much to be desired. For a company that claimed 25 years of science and research behind America's #1 deer mineral, none of the packages we noted in the store included nor provided any sort of guaranteed analysis whatsoever. To us, it was one of those things that left us wanting so much more out of it so we didn't even give it any air time.
You bring up an interesting point Paul, and it's one that we have no exposure to. SEA90 seems like an interesting option to research further. I'm not sure how widespread the approach has been adopted in livestock or farming practices. Let us know if you come up with anything!
You've got it Nate. Minerals make up about 5% of their body, with calcium and phosphorous comprising two of the most prevalent. In order to grow those antlers, which are about 22% calcium and 11% phosphorous once hardened, the average buck needs 0.2% calcium and 0.1% phosphorous in its total dietary intake. Those amounts are nearly three times as much for a doe in late gestation. Keep in mind, the actual weight then varies since deer eat anywhere from 1.8 to 4.8% of their body weight in dry weight forage per day.
Thanks for the comments Sage. You're correct, we didn't review it... and for good reason. In all fairness, we did review their 25lb High protein big buck block and were pretty happy to see the salt-calcium-phosporous ratio so that one made our cut. Surprisingly, though, the Antler King mineral left much to be desired. For a company that claimed 25 years of science and research behind America's #1 deer mineral, none of the packages we noted in the store included nor provided any sort of guaranteed analysis whatsoever. To us, it was one of those things that left us wanting so much more out of it so we didn't even give it any air time.
Antler king trophy grandulat deer. Mineral is great
Buying buy the bag never mixed your own
Build tha Bone mineral. Cant be beat
Commercial cattle mineral supplements work fine and have very little salt.
Granular
Grandular
Very professional thanks.
You bet Chester, hope it was helpful!
I’ve used trophy rocks forever, the deer love it and it lasts forever, would recommend.
We use them as well... good product.
What if I mix some Creatine with the deer cane
I go to Co-op, get 50 pound bag of trace mineral salts, and 50 pound bag of calcium diphosphate. Mix them 50-50 Deer tear the spot up. I put together 1 gallon bags, Ziploc bags of it. Find rotted stumps and pour one bag on each stump. Do this just before the rain and the stump will be soaked with it. Deer will eat out the stump. By placing multiple multiple multiple very small sites each deer can find the place that they like.
I do 2-50lb bag of trace, 50lb bag of cattle mineral and 50lb fine stock salt.. I can't seem to find the calcium diphosphate. I use them in 2:1:1 ratio.
Deer are copper hogs
Awesome video! Very informative and will really help me when establishing my mineral sites this spring. Looks like a couple bags of WTI are in order.
Thanks, Spencer, glad we could help share some info. As others have mentioned, there are several alternatives out there that we didn't cover in the video too.
I just found your channel yesterday and I can't believe that people ain't watching and liking these videos. I've watched about half of your videos and 👍🏼 on them. Thanks for the videos
Derek Droc Thanks Derek! We're just a couple of guys from North Central PA who love whitetails and all things outdoors! We haven't been putting these videos together for too long and because we aren't on TV with 35 different endorsements putting 200" B&C or P&Y bucks on the wall each week, we grow our channel through guys like you, so, thanks for the comments! Be sure to subscribe and share!
Portugee Prepper Q@
Does the imperial whitetail offer good attraction?
Yes
Oh yeah
I agree with much of this review. I do question the type of salt which is used. Trophy Rock comes close to what the deer needs as it is a type of sea salt. I suspect many companies use processed table salt which has 2 minerals and aluminum which is toxic to all living things including humans. Top Scientist agree that Calcium plays only a minor role in bone or antler growth and is the carrier for minerals. Bones and antlers are MOSTLY minerals... not calcium. The other minerals that make up bones and antlers are as follows... Boron, Chromium, Iron, Manganese, Selenium, Sulfur, Silica, Potassium, Phosphorus, Zink and 64 other trace minerals. Sea salt has all of them as in your blood. I suggest using rock salt which is sea salt and the makers of these products should do the same for the benefit of the animals. Ever wonder why deer are attracted to the roads in wintertime? They are after the rock salt spread on the roads for one.
You mentioned Iodine... that could be a clue that they use regular salt even though it's a mineral. I'm a hunter and I've tried many of these products on your video... and yes many claims are a joke. I also agree that vitamins play a role but most man made vitamins don't work and can't be absorbed. Vitamins from the foods deer eat in the wild are much better and the Calcium from grass is in the correct form for us and deer to absorb into the cells... manufactured calcium is NOT! Concrete is made from calcium, the wrong type and I suspect it's used in these products... so I question that.
I hope this helps clear up a few things but I'm sure it will cause more question also.
Maybe I should start making this stuff the right way and make a lot of money with a good product made the right way... Lol!!!
Where can you buy ipocks deer crack
How as out just getting a cattle mineral bag and mixing it with salt
I’ve been told to use
10 lb Dicalcium Phosphate
10 lb Salt
20 lb Mineral
10 lb Dry molasses
Opinions on what y’all think?
Try Big Tine.
Haven’t seen Big Tine, but we’ll check it out. Thanks
In New York we can't use anything but they sell in several stores
I did when I lived in the People's Republic of New Yorkastan. Cattle mineral, fine salt and trace mineral salt. Use it in 1:1:2 ratio. Screw ENCON!
I find it funny that you added a website for the whitetail institute and did not mention the acorn rage in a bag, or antler king trophy mineral. A quick internet search finds that the Antler King trophy mineral actually has 14% less salt, while having more calcium and phosphorus, along with having more ingredients. If you are going to do a comparison, don't compare something that is actually better than what you are paid to use, it doesn't look good... We all know it is much more cost effective to mix our own, and we control what we want in it that way.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Chris. Each product was given careful consideration and we can assure you, was not sponsored or paid for by anyone. Our goal was to provide an honest review of some of the products that were available on the market at the time the video was done. Acorn Rage is really nothing more than a plant-based attractant that serves little on the basis of true mineral supplementation. We almost felt it wasn’t even worth including.
As for the Antler King mineral - while the packaging asserts two dozen years of science and research along with countless minerals and vitamins - when our video was produced none of the bags offered any sort of guaranteed analysis. It really left us scratching our heads as to why such an important piece of information was excluded from the packaging. On the other hand, their Hi-protein Big Buck Block DID have a guaranteed analysis. Like most plant-based products, though, it offered more in the way of crude protein than antler building minerals. Nonetheless, we felt it did serve a useful purpose and was thereby included in our commentary.
representing PA im in middle pa and follow all your videos thank you for imfo and videos
Thanks @Joseph Bowersox! We appreciate your support, hopefully there's some material we've done that you've found useful! If you have any suggestions for a future video, feel free to let us know!
What about antler king?
A commenter below also brought up Antler King. We reviewed their 25lb High protein big buck block and were pretty happy to see the salt-calcium-phosporous ratio so it made our cut. Surprisingly, though, the Antler King mineral left much to be desired. For a company that claimed 25 years of science and research behind America's #1 deer mineral, none of the packages we noted in the store included nor provided any sort of guaranteed analysis whatsoever. To us, it was one of those things that left us wanting so much more out of it so we didn't even give it any air time.
How about SEA90 salt from the ocean ? a product used in agriculture to reintroduce minerals to our natural soils?
You bring up an interesting point Paul, and it's one that we have no exposure to. SEA90 seems like an interesting option to research further. I'm not sure how widespread the approach has been adopted in livestock or farming practices. Let us know if you come up with anything!
Calcium and phosphorus should be in a 2:1 ratio
You've got it Nate. Minerals make up about 5% of their body, with calcium and phosphorous comprising two of
the most prevalent. In order to grow those antlers, which are about 22% calcium and 11% phosphorous once hardened, the average buck needs 0.2% calcium and 0.1% phosphorous in its total dietary intake. Those amounts are nearly three times as much for a doe in late gestation. Keep in mind, the actual weight then varies since deer eat anywhere from 1.8 to 4.8% of their body weight in dry weight forage per day.
Come to think of it. It's the only one that wasnt reviewed....odd
Thanks for the comments Sage. You're correct, we didn't review it... and for good reason. In all fairness, we did review their 25lb High protein big buck block and were pretty happy to see the salt-calcium-phosporous ratio so that one made our cut. Surprisingly, though, the Antler King mineral left much to be desired. For a company that claimed 25 years of science and research behind America's #1 deer mineral, none of the packages we noted in the store included nor provided any sort of guaranteed analysis whatsoever. To us, it was one of those things that left us wanting so much more out of it so we didn't even give it any air time.
I tried deer cane... deer went away!
George Adams lol
Show some love
These clowns work for imperial whitetail just an FYI
just make your own.. better than all this. salt+dical