*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:17 - Background of Dr. Abdullah Sueidi 0:43 - Topic of the Discussion 1:00 - History of "The Problem of Evil" 2:14 - Atheists using the problem of evil as a central argument against God's existence 4:58 - History of the Argument of problem of evil as presented by Atheists/Agnostics 9:26 - The Logical Problem of Evil 14:18 - The Evidential Problem of Evil 17:07 - Subjective reasons for disbelief & reconciliation of faith with suffering 19:09 - Islamic response to the argument of Problem of Evil 23:54 - Arguments for the existence of God 30:46 - Human Vestigiality argument used by Darwinian Evolutions 33:40 - Attributes of God in Islam 39:51 - Judeo-Christian vs Islamic understanding of God's nature 45:40 - God's justice on the Day of Judgement 50:45 - Suffering of Kids & Worldly life vs Afterlife 53:22 - Fate of the people who've not heard about Islam 54:25 - Muslims striving to help the needy through Zakat and Sadaqah 56:36 - Suffering/evil posing a problem for Atheists 1:06:54 - Overview & Availability of Dr. Abdullah Sueidi's PhD work to the general public 1:09:13 - Book Recommendations regarding the problem of evil 1:10:18 - Wrapping Up SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️ Very Insightful & Informative Discussion 👌🏻👍🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless and reward you both for your efforts._
I think Dr Sueidi makes a really good argument: if you can't accept visible evidence for God's existence, how are you going to accept hidden wisdom behind suffering?
@@user-kj8yl6sn2z its no use my brother 41:26 وَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لَا تَسْمَعُوا۟ لِهَـٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانِ وَٱلْغَوْا۟ فِيهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَغْلِبُونَ The disbelievers advised ˹one another˺, “Do not listen to this Quran but drown it out** so that you may prevail.” 41:27 فَلَنُذِيقَنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ عَذَابًا شَدِيدًا وَلَنَجْزِيَنَّهُمْ أَسْوَأَ ٱلَّذِى كَانُوا۟ يَعْمَلُونَ So We will certainly make the disbelievers taste a severe punishment, and We will surely repay them according to the worst of their deeds. 41:28 ذَٰلِكَ جَزَآءُ أَعْدَآءِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلنَّارُ ۖ لَهُمْ فِيهَا دَارُ ٱلْخُلْدِ ۖ جَزَآءًۢ بِمَا كَانُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِنَا يَجْحَدُونَ That is the reward of Allah’s enemies: the Fire, which will be their eternal home-a ˹fitting˺ reward for their denial of Our revelations. - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran صدق الله العظيم Other meanings include "speak improperly" and/or "make a clamor." The purpose of this was to prevent the hearing or understanding of the Qur’ān.**
@@bengreen171 The emotional need to believe in God? This is a really stupid statement. This is a statement that applies and fits you more. You don’t believe in God to satisfy your desires. It’s really crazy how two people can think about an argument completely differently. I think this is a great question that applies to people like you. If you have a problem with not believing in God because you can’t see him then how can you believe in something beyond your limited knowledge!!!! I don’t understand how people like you really live without a purpose and believe you’re right!!!!
@@bengreen171 to say he's begging the question would be to assume that the statement was being used as a premise to support an argument for the existence of God; but that's not the argument or point he's trying to support with that statement.
@@bengreen171 There is one thing I notice of the bat in your tone it’s that you’re arrogant. Not surprising that you’re an atheist. I feel like you don’t understand Islam or religion in general. The point of life is to actually believe in God without seeing him and have faith in him without any physical/vision. You mentioned multiple times that God is not a real thing. How do you define real? How do you define truth? As an atheist I’m surprised that you’re mentioning these things because if there’s no God then there is no truth. We’re just a bunch of particles with no value. There’s no right and wrong and we do what we thing is right. What is pain? What is feeling? The way I define these things is through Islam. What is right? What Allah says it is. Why should we be good? Allah has put an instinct into us to be good we’re also being tested and we will suffer the consequences. We have a choice of being good, patient, grateful believers and we will be rewarded. On the other hand, we can be arrogant, harmful and non-believers and we will suffer. How do I know Islam is right? Many reasons including subjective and objective. I can tell that everything around me has a purpose. The beauty of this world cannot just be made by randomness that’s nonsense and believing in fairytales. I can tell I’m being tested everyday. Too many coincidences are happening. I have many subjective reasons. Objective: 1- The Quran (How can someone write such a book in the 7th century? How can he make such claims and get away with it? How is it still preserved? The strength of its language and ambiguity is phenomenal.) 2- Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him (The evidences of his prophethood is inevitable and the only way to get around this is to simply reject all Islamic history and say it’s fake) How can someone be a great prophet, father, husband of 9 wives at once, leader, live an ascetic life and lead a caliphate that almost conquered the whole world. The Arabs where nothing and he gave them value. The first ever man in history to have an Asian, European, African, Arab and all ethnicities fighting together for the truth. 3- The amount of guidance and knowledge Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him had including prophecies, miracles etc. The chances of the evidences of Islam coming together to be by chance is basically 0. You don’t have any purpose except worldly maters. You want success, money, women, materials that’s all you want. You may tell me I care for my family and I love them. What is love? How did we develop these soul connections by randomnesses? Lastly, I don’t want you to think that I’m attacking you but that I don’t see any truth in atheism, just limited human intellect trying to understand everything and rejecting beyond their knowledge. I see only hating the concept of God for emotional reasons. We’re unable to verify whether God is there or not using science or a physical tool. We need to think beyond just what we see. Maybe you can ask God to guide us and be sincere then see what happens? May Allah guide us.
Dr. Abdullah Sueidi wanted to clarify something from the video. He used the attribute: All-loving about Allah, but the name of Allah al-Wadud actually means: "the One that loves and is loved". Allah loves belief, believers, good deeds and people that do good deeds. It's not correct according to Islamic Theology to say that Allah loves everything and everyone. There are many deeds and beliefs, as well as people doing these deeds and have these beliefs that Allah do not love. This is clear in many verses in the Qur'an.
Agreed. The comment with the timestamps had the most likes from what I recall, so it'll still be at the top of the comments. Paul, baarak Allahu feek for your efforts
The story of moses and khidir is a good addition to what is being said in this discussion, about us not knowing why and there being a wisdom behind things that we do not comprehend. I never knew of this story before, I would say a couple of months ago m.ruclips.net/video/tW0Zswpgn1s/видео.html
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I love how you come prepared for your interviews. You bring ayat from the Quran and ahadeeth from Sunnah which are at the core of the topic. May Allah increase you in knowledge, guide you and have mercy on you and your family.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dr Abdullah does a good job in dealing with this topic. A series with him and bringing him on more often would definitely fill a much needed gap on the channel
@@BloggingTheology You can appoint him as host for your #No Design series.. Hahaha. 😅 ... jokes aside Jazak Allahu Khayra once again brother Paul for this effort. It did clear the logical fallacies that I myself am prone to making in understanding God's Qadr.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@user-s8jb3qb6y God has given us court as an example of justice. If somebody earns a prison sentence (Hell) from breaking laws (Sins). He can be let out justly of prison if someone pays his fine (bail). Jesus death on the cross paid the fine (the fine is infinite because you have sinned against an infinite God so only Jesus can pay the fine because He is Perfect). Either Believe in Jesus and repent or spend eternity paying for your own sins
I didnt expect to see the Sheikh of Sweden Abdullah as-Suedi here with br Paul what a wonderful suprise! Him and Medinastudenten Moosa are well known scholars in Sweden. Barakallahu feekum!
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amazing discussion. Thank you for posting this video. I am a neurologist and can tell you that the creation of brain is perfected and complex beyond imagination and speaks for the greatness of Allah glory be to him.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Just fantastic !!! Dr. Sueidi presented a wholistic and conclusive answer to the problem of suffering from the Islamic perspective. I found the answers given convincing and coherent. The best English video I have watched on the problem of suffering. Muslims in the west should definitely share the video with their non muslim friends as the problem of suffering is one of the most questions that people raise on a continuous basis and Christianity specifically failed in presenting convincing theological answers. Amazing and methodical work Mr.Williams!! Thanks for introducing us to great minds.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
For the sake of Allah, I do not know English, I ask through a translator... do you happen to know how to explain the suffering of animals, some animals eat their children, some die before they are born or have already been born, forgive me, I am very concerned about this question, why do they need such suffering?😢😢😢😢😢
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
One of the examples how to see the suffering from a true Muslim perspective.. See those detained in Guantanamo.. The way they face the suffering is incredible and has fascinated people and even drove some to embrace Islam.. (This is from the present examples, aside from many Hadiths that have been presented by Dr. Suedi.) Mr. X converted to Islam while serving as a U.S. Army military policeman guarding detainees at Guantanamo Bay. It was the faith he saw lived by the detainees that drew him to study the religion he had been told was violent and destructive -- and he found there a discipline and peace he'd sought all his life. (and many more examples)
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jazak’Allah Brother Paul for introducing us to such brilliant personalities. through your discussions, I realized that we have been blessed with so many prominent scholars to take benefit from. May Allah grant you success in what you do and we’ll soon see you conducting such intellectual discussions face to face in a cozy studio Insha’Allah.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dear Paul. Thanks for bringing 2 Abdullah’s in your recent programs. They are both young ,highly educated , intelligent& articulate.. You & other new Muslims scholars with Immigrant Muslim scholars are doing a remarkably good job in clarifying many misconceptions about Islam in the West. I am so very thankful to Allah( God Almighty)for each one,s works.ShukerAlhumdolillah( thanks & praise be to God.). In the recent years I have noticed rapid increase in the number of reverts to Islam because of this kind of work. .It strips away centuries old ,deliberately induced misconception,falsification of facts, heaped against Islam & Muslims by other religious leaders.
Such a deep meaningful episode with a guest I have never seen before. May Allah Reward you. For me, the matter that sealed the problem of evil once and for all was some simple questions and answers. Q: Do you remember the pain of being born ? A: No, the pain was momentarily thus has been forgotten. Q: Do you complain about the pain in your dream even though it felt so real ? A: No because once I woke up to this reality, the pain of that reality no longer attached, thus forgotten. Q: Can you guarantee for certain that people who seems to be in extreme suffering are actually suffering or is your senses are deceiving you ? A: I can't guarantee that. My senses might perceive something to be extreme suffering but in reality, it's not. So I need to have some humility and I need to control my emotions in a world of trials and tribulation before passing hard judgement towards my creator. Q: Can pain always be bad ? A: no, some pain protect us from greater damage such the fast response from our nervous system in case of a burn for example. Also, the pain of hunger while fasting increase us in humility and make us sympathetic and more inclined towards giving charity.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
When you mentioned the book "why do bad things happen to good people?" It immediately came to my mind the Hadith : "When Allah loves a servant, he tests them". For Muslims, the more trials you have, your faith in Allah increases". The people who have read Muhammad's PBUH life knows how he endured all the trials and tribulations. He was called names by his own tribe. He was thrown by stones in Al Taif. He was subject to boycott. He was driven out from his home town Mecca. He was called a liar. He was called a sorcerer. All six of his children died in his life time except Fatima. His two biggest supporters, his wife Khadija and Uncle Abu Talib died during his most stressful time in Mecca. He dealt with all the hypocrites, who tried to kill him. His immigration and Fleeing with Abu Bakr only, from Mecca to Medina when they tried to kill him. He fought numerous battles. And many many more. But he PBUH was the most patient, the most content, the most thankful to Allah the history have ever known, despite all his tribulations.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 only talks nothing logic , fancy words does not make 1+1+1=1 but it would be still 3 no matter how much fancy words you used, The truth is GOD was One , and is One and will remain 1 , GOD is not Lego who will be divided in parts , Just think about this and set yourself free my friend
Salam. As I child I battled and wrestled with the concept of God because I could not compute the suffering which my parents underwent with a severly disabled child. I wanted to believe in something higher but perhaps i was too upset to reconcile everything. I have grown up with this suffering and effects me terribly until now. I dont understand why this has happened. Perhaps I never would in this life. ALLAH guided my heart to islam, and gave me personal signs after a sincere search and in the next life I will understand everything which has happened in this life when I meet my Lord.
Dear Bro Paul, May be we are more fortunate to have you in Islam and elated to see you hosting lot of debates and discussions with the elite people/ scholars and spreading the light of knowledge in the world for the benefit of Muslims and others as well. May Allah Swt reward you and your sweet family with the excellent home in the Aakhira that Allah Swt has promised for His righteous servants. (10:26) Ameen. Also May I request you, the list of converts/reverts who have done PhD or who are outstanding in the Islamic studies and work.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The story of Musa (a.s.w) and Khidr I'm Surah Khaf highlights succinctly that there is wisdom behind everything that Allah allows to happen but we may always understand even the most knowledgeable among us.
Yes that story is the perfect example of not seeing the wisdom behind a supposudely evil event, if a prophet can't see the wisdom sometimes then who are we
Brother Paul. May Allah reward you for all the good works you are doing. I will be honored to translate brother Abdullah's book/thesis from Arabic to English. If you will be kind enough to arrange contact with him for this purpose. I reside in Saudi Arabia and would be happy to meet brother Abdullah personally in Madina and take this forward. Thank you.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
One interesting thing about severe suffering is that it either enlightens people or endarkens people. Those who are enlightened by it come closer to Allah in difficult times, those who are endarkened by it have a negative outlook and might even deny the Lord in the end. So suffering becomes almost like a test to show which people belong to which category. And it can be called fitna (test) - or in english trials and tribulations.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Al-salaam alaikum warahamatul'Allah wa barakatuh bro Paul and everyone! You're truly doing a fantastic job in this Channel by helping to clarify major concepts that are barriers to many people from seeing the truth in Islam. Your work is helping to remove the dust that has covered their hearts and minds through the explanation of quality guests that you're inviting. Additionally, you are directing the guest speakers to address the right questions many people have - no doubt, I've became a big fan of your Channel even though in the beginning I thought there wasn't much for me here subhaanal'Allah. I'm learning a lot here in the end, may Allah reward you all for the great work. Thank you again Paul.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Mashallah Dr Sueidi really presented this topic well. Thoroughly enjoyed the discussion. Once again brother Paul thank you for inviting such a wonderful guest. I hope he recommends some books in English too. Waiting for his list.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dear Paul, I Wanted to commend you for inviting Dr. Sueidi for a follow discussion on this topic. The commentary you added served well to galvanize the extraordinary arguments made by Dr. Sueidi. In my humble opinion this was an excellent representation from the Islamic stance on suffering and all of the aspects surrounding it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Five stars from me. As secondary note, you’re are doing such phenomenal work, it gotten better and better as time has progressed!
May Allah bless you Dr.AbdulAllah. I saw the video twice times without boring(live,RUclips).By the way,MashaAllah your Arabic is a fluent. Atheists,you should know that,to a dark place this line of thought will carry you.So review your thoughts and accept the truth before it will be too late.
This is amazing, thanks Paul for having such a distinguished guest… What I find interesting that in Sura 20 verse 52: “Moses said, ‘My Lord alone has knowledge of them, all in a record; my Lord does not err or forget.’” Was Moses answer to Pharoah when he asked him about the previous nations that did not hear of Moses preaching on God… Very relevant…. In conclusion god is fair, the absolute fair, and he will treat all souls with fairness..
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM! This interview was excellent. One point never addressed is the number of suffering children as Dr. Eherman stated. It is due to injustice of man and the proof of this is the news. The solution is to work diligently to establish justice in this life. It is the duty of humans and they will be asked for their efforts to establish this goal. I can think of countless examples of mass suffering because a group is carefully planning and investing in such misery.
@@lewis72 From the news, the minority of disasters are unavoidable. Probably, the majority are manmade. Tsunamis, volcanos, earth quakes, ... frequently happen in known areas. These region are also very attractive and people move there. If they have the option to move out when they suspect of a disaster is imminent, it will be to their advantage. Unfortunately, manmade borders and regulations prevent them from moving around efficiently. Famine and droughts are caused by manmade mismanagement of resources and artificial borders. Destroying echo systems, sometimes intentionally, reflects back on the poor and helpless. As an example, the Sahara desert has cycles of drought and abundance. If people moved around freely it would have been for the best. Poor people need justice and good management more than anything else. The offender is not "god", it is man pretending to be god. For the very few unexplained misery, the interviews covered all aspects possible.
Your channel has many wonderful and valuable interviews, but it is difficult to see them all. Why not cut the important parts into small clips so that they can be easily spread and attract a lot to watch, thanks Paul ❤️
Life is a test, it might be for an individual, for a family or for a nation. Simply it is a test for the offspring of Adam and Eve. Look at the life of the Prophets - more specifically the life of Prophet Muhammad SAW - the sufferings they have gone through. May Allah SWT make us among the successful!
Allah bless you both. I am from Syrian but live in Sweden for seven years now and wish I meat brother Abdullah. I always listen to his lessons on RUclips. Respect and best wishes for both of you. 😊 må Allah belöna er paradiset inshaa Allah.
This is really crucial discussion to have. Thank you brother Paul. Alhamdulillah for Muslims we have lesser problem with the "problem of suffering" in the world due to realistic worldview and the incredibly consistent theology of Islam. Islamic God concept with many many attributes of Allah demonstrated in the stories and lessons given in the Quran and Sunna resolve the issue theologically. Only duty of Muslims is of course first learn these truths, and more importantly patiently go through the life's difficulties inflicting us.
Alhamdulillah I watched this video while my left ear is swelling and is in really bad shape. I only pray to Allah to cleanse me from my sins rather than the disease. I’m getting very greedy to get as much forgiveness from Allah as I can despite my worst habits.
This, for me, is the best piece of content so far on BT tabaarakAllah. When you have people of the sunnah explaining any matter they refer to the Qur'an and Sunnah constantly. Absolutely wonderful. BaarakAllahufeekum
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: غَا فِرِ الذَّنْبِۢ وَقَا بِلِ التَّوْبِ شَدِيْدِ الْعِقَا بِ ذِى الطَّوْلِ ۗ لَاۤ اِلٰهَ اِلَّا هُوَ ۗ اِلَيْهِ الْمَصِيْرُ "The forgiver of sin, acceptor of repentance, severe in punishment, owner of abundance. There is no deity except Him; to Him is the destination."
I'm so glad to see dr Abdullah on your channel. I've followed the activities of al-yaqeen center against atheism, where dr Abdullah presented some conferences and that was really interesting.
Masha Allah. Excellent topic and excellent speaker as always brother Paul. May Allah reward the two of you for your efforts and keep us all in his mercy. Ameen.
Thank you, Paul, for discussing this topic. When speaking about suffering, we should remember the suffering we cause ourselves and each other due to our own selfish, hasty, weak and fearful nature. We cannot always lay the cause of suffering at God's door; Satan, too, accuses God of leading him astray. We should remain mindful of our own arrogance and blindness. Muslims have always understood the fundamental need for suffering and the essential role it plays in the purification of the soul. From suffering we learn to know our selves, learn humility, develop patience and empathy, and embrace creativity and problem solving. Most importantly, suffering rewards us by sweetening prayer and unburdening us (we are utterly reliant on God). So that even when ease comes, we remain mindful of God.
In the discussion between Dr Bart Ehrman and Dr Lawrence Brown it was possible for viewers to leave with doubts or unanswered questions regarding some issues. Since then Dr Lawrence Brown's follow up discussion and this discussion seem to have covered that in order to address any potential doubts or unanswered questions that may have arisen from that session. Appreciate the deep thought and effort behind the 2 follow up videos, jazaak Allaah khayr
According to Muslim thought, this world is not paradise/Janna, but a test for both the believers and the unbelievers. It's not a logical problem for Muslims that there is suffering in this world. If the problems are created by men, then God/Allah permits the believers to rectify the error and restore justice. If it was caused by natural causes, this would have been written (maktub) for the believers and they must persevere, for their reward is in al-Ākhira/afterlife. As Mr. Sweidi says here, the claim that the belief in God is incompatible with the reality of the world is refutable. Thank you, Paul, for bringing all those brilliant minds to speak on your channel!
Ma Sha Allah tabaraka Allah , may Allah reward you Br. Paul and your esteemed guest Dr. Abdullah for this great video, it is like a fuel for Eman in Allah , his messenger and the hereafter. May Allah guide and keep us on the right path
If you are suffering then you are doing something right ..without any form of suffering the meaning to life would be void ..perhaps even the worship to god too
The suffering argument by the atheists is the most useless and stupid argument since the suffering is an indivisible part of human life. Every atheist should ask his mother, sister or wife how much pain has to go through in his birth day.
Dear Paul If suffering doesn’t exist, then children will never encounter “danger”. If children won’t encounter danger, then parents won’t worry about their children getting endangered and suffering injury as a result. Given the above causal arguments we can therefore conclude their won’t much need for parenthood (to provide shelter from danger and protection, love, education, …, etc. ). We won’t need to have families or belonging to a kinship. Life becomes easy and meaningless
@euthyphro dilemma if God’s law such that kids will not suffer then I would imagine all parents will leave their kids to live on their own. What drives as parents to care for our children?! It’s our compassion towards them because real life is full of both good grace and hardship.
You cannot have a calm rational discussion with someone who is angry, arrogant, condescending and looking for a fight brother. You made a great point but the attitude of this person is clear: not only will he not accept what you say, he won't respect you either. He's looking to degrade and humiliate. Only sick people with disease in their hearts join gatherings of believers to try to humiliate them with their words. Of course, they fail to realize that they are the fools humiliating themselves in this world and in the next.
A wonderful discussion. I have watched it twice and have taken notes. Is there a way Paul, who I thank for a wonderful work he is doing - may Allah reward him for it immensely, can forward these rebuttals to Dr Bart Erhman please.
On the topic of suffering, use the following counter-argument, even though to me it appears as extremely logical and impossible to deny. So let's take a hypothetical argument between two people. Person 1: How can God be All-Good is there is so and so in the world? Person 2: So you expect perfect equity in this life? Person 1: Not perfect equity, but the easing of sufferings, no senseless deaths, no wars, no famine, no plagues, etc. Person 2: Even if all that were to be satisfied, the person acclimated to that hypothetical society would find injustice in smaller things, such as differences in height, differences in ability (intellectual/physical), differences in how much a person earns, differences in the places in which people are born and how those peoples differ in terms of development, and so on. Person 1: But at least there would be no suffering. Person 2: For a human it would be good enough, but God is Perfect, and imperfection cannot be in His creation. A life where there is no post-judgement must be a perfectly equitable life, as otherwise why would an All-Good, All-Perfect God create people who lives would be, even in the most minute way, inequitable. Indeed the only solution for a perfect being to create true equity in this life is to remove free-will, and create us as perfect equals, like blades of grass. Person 1: But that's clearly not how the world is now, humans are different, we aren't the same, the world is fundamentally unequitable. So how can God be All-Good. Person 2: I gave the prior argument as a preface to this one. The All-Good nature of God can be understood more easily through his attribute of being the Most-Just. God is Perfectly Omniscient, you can view this Omniscience as the following: God sees every quark or lesser, in the Universe, at it's exact location, down to the Planck length, or lesser, at every Planck time, or lesser, for all time, throughout all time. He knows everything there is to know, and more. As such, he has absolute knowledge, and is the absolute reference for everything. This allows Him to deal Absolute Justice. God is All-Good because He will offset the inequity of this world perfectly in the world to come. His will not deliver injustice to a person lesser than the weight of an atom. He knows everything, and can quantify everything. Any injustice you suffered here will be accounted for by Him. If you were born poor, born disabled, born only to be killed in war, famine, disease, cancer, murder, He will account for that, and deal with you with Perfect Justice. It is the only way to achieve true equity. What God gives to you is better than what you ask for, you ask for a lack of suffering in this world, but that cannot be possible while free-will exists. God gives you both free-will and perfect equity, there is no injustice, and God remains All-Good. In short, given the current condition of how we are, how we are built, the natural inequity that results from various factors such as socioeconomics, militarism, human vice, or straight up biological intra/inter gender variance, it is impossible for an All-Good and Perfect God, unless the inequity is offset perfectly, at a later time. Which Muslims believe in anyways. An athiest must prove that a faith's beliefs cannot be just according to its own belief tenets, he must take these tenets as given, as he himself is trying to disprove that very faith. For this reason, an Athiest must also take into consideration what the Day of Judgement entails. Unfortunately, doing so would lead to the "suffering" argument falling apart, as it yields perfect equity. Do not forget your life is nothing in the eyes of time. You have never lived in comparison to the infinite. And that is why amongst the 6 major beliefs of a Muslim, one of them is the Belief in the Day of Judgement. Not going to bother replying to comments, I have some weight to squat and bench.
Very natural and easy to understand explanation, compatible with the villager to the throne, layman to the erudite. The wisdoms behind suffering far outweigh the harms, if only people knew.
Jazak Allah uncle Paul for sharing this video by inviting this beautiful shaikh on your Chanel May Allah bless him I can see the shaikh isn’t fluent in English lol he was kind of struggling with the language but still the shaikh did a beautiful job may Allah grant him good health and a long life, Ameen
Tough topic . Dr. Sueidi handled it cautiously, slowly , but surely. I do believe it is all about the “ Test “ from Almighty God and the vast meaning of it . Believers or unbelievers - all have to undergo tryouts with evil and good for them for a testing til their death. Here is the verse from The Qur’an : “ Every soul shall taste of death ; and we try you with evil and good for a testing ; then unto Us you shall be returned “. The Prophets : 36
Thank you. I hope this discussion helps any atheist listening in. Belief in the Creator is logical and helps us to live a better life. Where do atheists get their sense of morals and justice. Of course from religion.
Thankyou Paul brilliant guest brilliant topic. I always learn so much from your videos thanks to you and your Learned guests in a respectful and peaceful manner to all religions
Read the Surat El Kahf (Chapter 18, from verses 71 to 82), and it will clarify that everything (even if seems bad) has a very MERCIFUL reason and wisdom behind it... This part of the Quran is unique, and clears the fog Elhamdulillah
Dr Abdullah is clearly well thought and educated in theology and philosophy ....he brings arguments within its discipline. He is the more suitable dialog partner to Dr Bart...than Dr. Brown.....only than you can appreciate it intellectually and academically...
This was an amazing discussion Paul, please bring on Dr. Abdullah again, inshallah. Also the brief mention of Dr. Jonathan Brown at around 42:15 really made me think about how awesome it would be to see him on this channel. There are so many topics that would be interesting to see him cover. I'm sure if you ask him to come on he'll accept ;) JazakAllahukhair
What's our struggle comparing with the prophet Muhammad pbuh him , all his life was struggle from childhood as growing an orphan kids poor adult and the tortured he got from kfar and most of his relatives and kids died in his life until the last day of his life when he said the pain of illness that I have is is like the illness of tow man of you . Even though he is the best of all creation he always reminded his companion of Akherah and the price of Allah is giving to the patient people . What ever our like is as believers we feel comfortable alhamdulillah for every the only life is the thereafter.
Thank to Dr Abdullah.and professor Paul williams. Please professor Paul williams we need more people like Abdullah and many more in our very best chanel Blogging theology. God bless all ameen
Could we also have scholarly input on verses in the Quran that mention suffering at the hands of other human beings for which people blame God and on suffering caused by our own mistakes, sins, etc.
Many thanks to Dr Sueidi for sharing his knowledge and opinion on a crucial matter. I've grown quite a bit through his insight. 👍🏽😘 Had to edit because I misspelled his name, so sorry.
Wow very eye opening on the findings of Jonathan Brown and Dr. Suedi on the lack of coverage on suffering by Islamic scholars. It now makes sense that when we don't have the whole picture, we make suffering an existential crisis as Dr Suedi mentioned.
Paul, you didn’t again! You continuously surpass expectations! I find myself waiting with anticipation for what’s next!!! Many of us Muslims that aren’t well versed in Arabic fully appreciate having easy access to such discussions and explanations!!!!!!!! Jazzak Allah kul Kheir May Allah (SWT) reward you with many blessings🤲🏻
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts? Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dear Paul, you had inquired at the end about some sources from a Muslim perspective: I recommend the new book God, Evil and Suffering in Islam by Salih Sayilgan (Cambridge University Press, 2023)
Atheists have a dialogue with their mind which is limited by the ego, while the believer is in dialogue with Allah and his infinate wisdom. Atheists have done a lot of evel, why crying religion is the root of evel. Great guest and host as always. Thank you!
@@srnp0007 The evidence points to ONE GOD! You need to do some work. Islam is rooted in truth. No worldly evidence can disprove it. Allah the Lord of the Universe sent to all humanity. May you be guided!!
@@srnp0007 The Qur'an is most preserved truth that ever was. I wish you enough wisdom to grasped it, in some capacity to lead to peace. For it is everlasting and forever guide for Humanity.
*Timestamps:*
0:00 - Introduction
0:17 - Background of Dr. Abdullah Sueidi
0:43 - Topic of the Discussion
1:00 - History of "The Problem of Evil"
2:14 - Atheists using the problem of evil as a central argument against God's existence
4:58 - History of the Argument of problem of evil as presented by Atheists/Agnostics
9:26 - The Logical Problem of Evil
14:18 - The Evidential Problem of Evil
17:07 - Subjective reasons for disbelief & reconciliation of faith with suffering
19:09 - Islamic response to the argument of Problem of Evil
23:54 - Arguments for the existence of God
30:46 - Human Vestigiality argument used by Darwinian Evolutions
33:40 - Attributes of God in Islam
39:51 - Judeo-Christian vs Islamic understanding of God's nature
45:40 - God's justice on the Day of Judgement
50:45 - Suffering of Kids & Worldly life vs Afterlife
53:22 - Fate of the people who've not heard about Islam
54:25 - Muslims striving to help the needy through Zakat and Sadaqah
56:36 - Suffering/evil posing a problem for Atheists
1:06:54 - Overview & Availability of Dr. Abdullah Sueidi's PhD work to the general public
1:09:13 - Book Recommendations regarding the problem of evil
1:10:18 - Wrapping Up
SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️
Very Insightful & Informative Discussion 👌🏻👍🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless and reward you both for your efforts._
👀 Mashallah Jazak Allahu Kheir
Assalamualaikum WaRahmatullah hi WabaRakatuhu
@@propheticadmirer1701 Wa Aleikum Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatu
@@-saheehinternationalorisah4959 وَإِيَّاك 😊
@@propheticadmirer1701 waalaikumsalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
I think Dr Sueidi makes a really good argument: if you can't accept visible evidence for God's existence, how are you going to accept hidden wisdom behind suffering?
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@@user-kj8yl6sn2z its no use my brother
41:26
وَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ لَا تَسْمَعُوا۟ لِهَـٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانِ وَٱلْغَوْا۟ فِيهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَغْلِبُونَ
The disbelievers advised ˹one another˺, “Do not listen to this Quran but drown it out** so that you may prevail.”
41:27
فَلَنُذِيقَنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ عَذَابًا شَدِيدًا وَلَنَجْزِيَنَّهُمْ أَسْوَأَ ٱلَّذِى كَانُوا۟ يَعْمَلُونَ
So We will certainly make the disbelievers taste a severe punishment, and We will surely repay them according to the worst of their deeds.
41:28
ذَٰلِكَ جَزَآءُ أَعْدَآءِ ٱللَّهِ ٱلنَّارُ ۖ لَهُمْ فِيهَا دَارُ ٱلْخُلْدِ ۖ جَزَآءًۢ بِمَا كَانُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِنَا يَجْحَدُونَ
That is the reward of Allah’s enemies: the Fire, which will be their eternal home-a ˹fitting˺ reward for their denial of Our revelations.
- Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
صدق الله العظيم
Other meanings include "speak improperly" and/or "make a clamor." The purpose of this was to prevent the hearing or understanding of the Qur’ān.**
@@bengreen171 The emotional need to believe in God? This is a really stupid statement. This is a statement that applies and fits you more. You don’t believe in God to satisfy your desires.
It’s really crazy how two people can think about an argument completely differently. I think this is a great question that applies to people like you. If you have a problem with not believing in God because you can’t see him then how can you believe in something beyond your limited knowledge!!!!
I don’t understand how people like you really live without a purpose and believe you’re right!!!!
@@bengreen171 to say he's begging the question would be to assume that the statement was being used as a premise to support an argument for the existence of God; but that's not the argument or point he's trying to support with that statement.
@@bengreen171 There is one thing I notice of the bat in your tone it’s that you’re arrogant. Not surprising that you’re an atheist.
I feel like you don’t understand Islam or religion in general. The point of life is to actually believe in God without seeing him and have faith in him without any physical/vision. You mentioned multiple times that God is not a real thing. How do you define real? How do you define truth? As an atheist I’m surprised that you’re mentioning these things because if there’s no God then there is no truth. We’re just a bunch of particles with no value. There’s no right and wrong and we do what we thing is right. What is pain? What is feeling?
The way I define these things is through Islam. What is right? What Allah says it is. Why should we be good? Allah has put an instinct into us to be good we’re also being tested and we will suffer the consequences. We have a choice of being good, patient, grateful believers and we will be rewarded. On the other hand, we can be arrogant, harmful and non-believers and we will suffer. How do I know Islam is right? Many reasons including subjective and objective. I can tell that everything around me has a purpose. The beauty of this world cannot just be made by randomness that’s nonsense and believing in fairytales. I can tell I’m being tested everyday. Too many coincidences are happening. I have many subjective reasons.
Objective:
1- The Quran (How can someone write such a book in the 7th century? How can he make such claims and get away with it? How is it still preserved? The strength of its language and ambiguity is phenomenal.)
2- Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him (The evidences of his prophethood is inevitable and the only way to get around this is to simply reject all Islamic history and say it’s fake) How can someone be a great prophet, father, husband of 9 wives at once, leader, live an ascetic life and lead a caliphate that almost conquered the whole world. The Arabs where nothing and he gave them value. The first ever man in history to have an Asian, European, African, Arab and all ethnicities fighting together for the truth.
3- The amount of guidance and knowledge Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him had including prophecies, miracles etc.
The chances of the evidences of Islam coming together to be by chance is basically 0.
You don’t have any purpose except worldly maters. You want success, money, women, materials that’s all you want. You may tell me I care for my family and I love them. What is love? How did we develop these soul connections by randomnesses?
Lastly, I don’t want you to think that I’m attacking you but that I don’t see any truth in atheism, just limited human intellect trying to understand everything and rejecting beyond their knowledge. I see only hating the concept of God for emotional reasons. We’re unable to verify whether God is there or not using science or a physical tool. We need to think beyond just what we see.
Maybe you can ask God to guide us and be sincere then see what happens?
May Allah guide us.
Dr. Abdullah Sueidi wanted to clarify something from the video. He used the attribute: All-loving about Allah, but the name of Allah al-Wadud actually means: "the One that loves and is loved". Allah loves belief, believers, good deeds and people that do good deeds. It's not correct according to Islamic Theology to say that Allah loves everything and everyone. There are many deeds and beliefs, as well as people doing these deeds and have these beliefs that Allah do not love. This is clear in many verses in the Qur'an.
This should really be the pinned comment! More people should see this clarification, may allah reward shayk Abdullah. Very humble
Agreed. The comment with the timestamps had the most likes from what I recall, so it'll still be at the top of the comments. Paul, baarak Allahu feek for your efforts
yes that's a very clear distinction between all loving and this. Makes more sense. All loving is what the christians say
If you learnt about Masheeah of Allaah, Iradah Kawneeyah, and Iradah Shareeyah. Then you would understand this issue. These all are in Aqeedah lesson.
@@al-Jakarti what exactly are you referring to with referencing iraadah kawniyyah and shar'iyyah?
Please leave your thoughts about the video below! I will add subtitles in other languages soon, God willing.
It is great, well done.
The story of moses and khidir is a good addition to what is being said in this discussion, about us not knowing why and there being a wisdom behind things that we do not comprehend. I never knew of this story before, I would say a couple of months ago
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Thank you for Malayalam🤗
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I love how you come prepared for your interviews. You bring ayat from the Quran and ahadeeth from Sunnah which are at the core of the topic. May Allah increase you in knowledge, guide you and have mercy on you and your family.
In my experience, this is one of the educated Englishman's strong attributes; he does his homework thoroughly first before reporting for duty.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dr Abdullah does a good job in dealing with this topic. A series with him and bringing him on more often would definitely fill a much needed gap on the channel
Yes I totally agree!
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@@BloggingTheology You can appoint him as host for your #No Design series.. Hahaha. 😅 ... jokes aside Jazak Allahu Khayra once again brother Paul for this effort. It did clear the logical fallacies that I myself am prone to making in understanding God's Qadr.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Bro Paul
You can't imagine how much this discussion is useful to all Muslims
May Allah reward you both
Every one should share this video
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The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 my thoughts are "no."
@@user-s8jb3qb6y God has given us court as an example of justice. If somebody earns a prison sentence (Hell) from breaking laws (Sins). He can be let out justly of prison if someone pays his fine (bail). Jesus death on the cross paid the fine (the fine is infinite because you have sinned against an infinite God so only Jesus can pay the fine because He is Perfect). Either Believe in Jesus and repent or spend eternity paying for your own sins
I didnt expect to see the Sheikh of Sweden Abdullah as-Suedi here with br Paul what a wonderful suprise! Him and Medinastudenten Moosa are well known scholars in Sweden. Barakallahu feekum!
Yes ma sha allah they are well known students of knowledge. May Allah preserve them.
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He has even written a few BOOKS in Arabic...
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What are the titles of those books brother
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Amazing discussion. Thank you for posting this video.
I am a neurologist and can tell you that the creation of brain is perfected and complex beyond imagination and speaks for the greatness of Allah glory be to him.
Wonderful!
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Just fantastic !!!
Dr. Sueidi presented a wholistic and conclusive answer to the problem of suffering from the Islamic perspective.
I found the answers given convincing and coherent. The best English video I have watched on the problem of suffering.
Muslims in the west should definitely share the video with their non muslim friends as the problem of suffering is one of the most questions that people raise on a continuous basis and Christianity specifically failed in presenting convincing theological answers.
Amazing and methodical work Mr.Williams!! Thanks for introducing us to great minds.
@euthyphro dilemma how wasnt it coherent…
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
For the sake of Allah, I do not know English, I ask through a translator... do you happen to know how to explain the suffering of animals, some animals eat their children, some die before they are born or have already been born, forgive me, I am very concerned about this question, why do they need such suffering?😢😢😢😢😢
Uncle Paul, our (viewers) words of gratitude to you will never be enough! Fortunately, Allah will reward you abundantly. Aameen!
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The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
*Congratulations on completing 15 Million Views brother Paul* 🥳🎉
_May Allah ﷻ put Barakah in your channel and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
InshaaAllah.. Alhamdulillah
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The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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One of the examples how to see the suffering from a true Muslim perspective.. See those detained in Guantanamo.. The way they face the suffering is incredible and has fascinated people and even drove some to embrace Islam.. (This is from the present examples, aside from many Hadiths that have been presented by Dr. Suedi.)
Mr. X converted to Islam while serving as a U.S. Army military policeman guarding detainees at Guantanamo Bay. It was the faith he saw lived by the detainees that drew him to study the religion he had been told was violent and destructive -- and he found there a discipline and peace he'd sought all his life. (and many more examples)
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Or the screaming housemaids being beheaded in Mecca.
Jazak’Allah Brother Paul for introducing us to such brilliant personalities. through your discussions, I realized that we have been blessed with so many prominent scholars to take benefit from. May Allah grant you success in what you do and we’ll soon see you conducting such intellectual discussions face to face in a cozy studio Insha’Allah.
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The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dear Paul. Thanks for bringing 2 Abdullah’s in your recent programs. They are both young ,highly educated , intelligent& articulate.. You & other new Muslims scholars with Immigrant Muslim scholars are doing a remarkably good job in clarifying many misconceptions about Islam in the West. I am so very thankful to Allah( God Almighty)for each one,s works.ShukerAlhumdolillah( thanks & praise be to God.). In the recent years I have noticed rapid increase in the number of reverts to Islam because of this kind of work. .It strips away centuries old ,deliberately induced misconception,falsification of facts, heaped against Islam & Muslims by other religious leaders.
Such a deep meaningful episode with a guest I have never seen before. May Allah Reward you.
For me, the matter that sealed the problem of evil once and for all was some simple questions and answers.
Q: Do you remember the pain of being born ?
A: No, the pain was momentarily thus has been forgotten.
Q: Do you complain about the pain in your dream even though it felt so real ?
A: No because once I woke up to this reality, the pain of that reality no longer attached, thus forgotten.
Q: Can you guarantee for certain that people who seems to be in extreme suffering are actually suffering or is your senses are deceiving you ?
A: I can't guarantee that. My senses might perceive something to be extreme suffering but in reality, it's not. So I need to have some humility and I need to control my emotions in a world of trials and tribulation before passing hard judgement towards my creator.
Q: Can pain always be bad ?
A: no, some pain protect us from greater damage such the fast response from our nervous system in case of a burn for example. Also, the pain of hunger while fasting increase us in humility and make us sympathetic and more inclined towards giving charity.
Wow thats so enlightening!
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
When you mentioned the book "why do bad things happen to good people?" It immediately came to my mind the Hadith : "When Allah loves a servant, he tests them". For Muslims, the more trials you have, your faith in Allah increases". The people who have read Muhammad's PBUH life knows how he endured all the trials and tribulations.
He was called names by his own tribe.
He was thrown by stones in Al Taif.
He was subject to boycott.
He was driven out from his home town Mecca.
He was called a liar.
He was called a sorcerer.
All six of his children died in his life time except Fatima.
His two biggest supporters, his wife Khadija and Uncle Abu Talib died during his most stressful time in Mecca.
He dealt with all the hypocrites, who tried to kill him.
His immigration and Fleeing with Abu Bakr only, from Mecca to Medina when they tried to kill him.
He fought numerous battles.
And many many more. But he PBUH was the most patient, the most content, the most thankful to Allah the history have ever known, despite all his tribulations.
Swallalaho Aliahe Wa alehi Wasalam
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 only talks nothing logic , fancy words does not make 1+1+1=1 but it would be still 3 no matter how much fancy words you used, The truth is GOD was One , and is One and will remain 1 , GOD is not Lego who will be divided in parts , Just think about this and set yourself free my friend
Salam. As I child I battled and wrestled with the concept of God because I could not compute the suffering which my parents underwent with a severly disabled child. I wanted to believe in something higher but perhaps i was too upset to reconcile everything. I have grown up with this suffering and effects me terribly until now. I dont understand why this has happened. Perhaps I never would in this life.
ALLAH guided my heart to islam, and gave me personal signs after a sincere search and in the next life I will understand everything which has happened in this life when I meet my Lord.
Dear Bro Paul, May be we are more fortunate to have you in Islam and elated to see you hosting lot of debates and discussions with the elite people/ scholars and spreading the light of knowledge in the world for the benefit of Muslims and others as well. May Allah Swt reward you and your sweet family with the excellent home in the Aakhira that Allah Swt has promised for His righteous servants. (10:26) Ameen.
Also May I request you, the list of converts/reverts who have done PhD or who are outstanding in the Islamic studies and work.
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The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The story of Musa (a.s.w) and Khidr I'm Surah Khaf highlights succinctly that there is wisdom behind everything that Allah allows to happen but we may always understand even the most knowledgeable among us.
Yes that story is the perfect example of not seeing the wisdom behind a supposudely evil event, if a prophet can't see the wisdom sometimes then who are we
He was teaching me before at Islamic Thelogy Faculty in Islamic University of Medina. Jazaahullah 'anna khaeran
Lucky you!
Brother Paul. May Allah reward you for all the good works you are doing.
I will be honored to translate brother Abdullah's book/thesis from Arabic to English. If you will be kind enough to arrange contact with him for this purpose.
I reside in Saudi Arabia and would be happy to meet brother Abdullah personally in Madina and take this forward.
Thank you.
May Allah bless your efforts👍, their is alot of work in Arabic that has lost in time its unfortunate.
I have passed on your message to Dr Sueidi.
@@BloggingTheology thank you.
Great!
Dear Saad, Dr Abdullah would like to contact you. Could you kindly drop me a line at my email address please: p.a.williams007@btinternet.com
Brilliant interview Allahuakbar. “Allah will be not be asked, but they will be asked what they did” powerful stuff, hit me pretty hard
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Brother Paul , you are doing great for me and for every one looking for truth
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Fascinating! One of the best discourses on atheism ive heard for a long time. Subhanallah
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
One interesting thing about severe suffering is that it either enlightens people or endarkens people. Those who are enlightened by it come closer to Allah in difficult times, those who are endarkened by it have a negative outlook and might even deny the Lord in the end. So suffering becomes almost like a test to show which people belong to which category. And it can be called fitna (test) - or in english trials and tribulations.
Thank you for this great video, and for listening to the guest without annoying interruptions ،may allah reward you both , and bless you ...
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Brother Paul, as-Salām 'alaikum.
This was absolutely excellent! JazākaAllāhu khayran! 🤲🏾
Beautiful discussion. Thank you Paul and Dr. Suedi
Dr. Shadee al Masri would be a good guest to talk on this topic
Grateful for the knowledge and academics this channel brings. Well done and thank you.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Al-salaam alaikum warahamatul'Allah wa barakatuh bro Paul and everyone! You're truly doing a fantastic job in this Channel by helping to clarify major concepts that are barriers to many people from seeing the truth in Islam. Your work is helping to remove the dust that has covered their hearts and minds through the explanation of quality guests that you're inviting. Additionally, you are directing the guest speakers to address the right questions many people have - no doubt, I've became a big fan of your Channel even though in the beginning I thought there wasn't much for me here subhaanal'Allah. I'm learning a lot here in the end, may Allah reward you all for the great work. Thank you again Paul.
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Lovely stream! Dr. Abdullah is an amazing speaker! Thank you Paul and thank you Dr. Abdullah.
I hope to see the brother again here soon, Paul!
Mashallah Dr Sueidi really presented this topic well. Thoroughly enjoyed the discussion. Once again brother Paul thank you for inviting such a wonderful guest. I hope he recommends some books in English too. Waiting for his list.
Glad you enjoyed it
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dear Paul, I Wanted to commend you for inviting Dr. Sueidi for a follow discussion on this topic. The commentary you added served well to galvanize the extraordinary arguments made by Dr. Sueidi. In my humble opinion this was an excellent representation from the Islamic stance on suffering and all of the aspects surrounding it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Five stars from me. As secondary note, you’re are doing such phenomenal work, it gotten better and better as time has progressed!
Selam alejkum from switzerland🇨🇭
What a beautiful stream❤
Wa alaykumu s-salam
A very interesting and timely discussion Paul... thank you for bringing the brother on. 👍🏼
Thanks brother Paul for all your effort. May Allah reward you for your work in spreading the truth.
May Allah bless you Dr.AbdulAllah.
I saw the video twice times without boring(live,RUclips).By the way,MashaAllah your Arabic is a fluent.
Atheists,you should know that,to a dark place this line of thought will carry you.So review your thoughts and accept the truth before it will be too late.
This is amazing, thanks Paul for having such a distinguished guest…
What I find interesting that in Sura 20 verse 52: “Moses said, ‘My Lord alone has knowledge of them, all in a record; my Lord does not err or forget.’” Was Moses answer to Pharoah when he asked him about the previous nations that did not hear of Moses preaching on God…
Very relevant…. In conclusion god is fair, the absolute fair, and he will treat all souls with fairness..
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!
This interview was excellent. One point never addressed is the number of suffering children as Dr. Eherman stated. It is due to injustice of man and the proof of this is the news. The solution is to work diligently to establish justice in this life. It is the duty of humans and they will be asked for their efforts to establish this goal. I can think of countless examples of mass suffering because a group is carefully planning and investing in such misery.
@@lewis72 From the news, the minority of disasters are unavoidable. Probably, the majority are manmade. Tsunamis, volcanos, earth quakes, ... frequently happen in known areas. These region are also very attractive and people move there. If they have the option to move out when they suspect of a disaster is imminent, it will be to their advantage. Unfortunately, manmade borders and regulations prevent them from moving around efficiently.
Famine and droughts are caused by manmade mismanagement of resources and artificial borders. Destroying echo systems, sometimes intentionally, reflects back on the poor and helpless. As an example, the Sahara desert has cycles of drought and abundance. If people moved around freely it would have been for the best.
Poor people need justice and good management more than anything else. The offender is not "god", it is man pretending to be god.
For the very few unexplained misery, the interviews covered all aspects possible.
MashaAllah top notch, I vote the two of you as leaders of the Muslim world
Your channel has many wonderful and valuable interviews, but it is difficult to see them all. Why not cut the important parts into small clips so that they can be easily spread and attract a lot to watch, thanks Paul ❤️
Thank you very much for adding Kurdish subtitle ❤️
No problem
Life is a test, it might be for an individual, for a family or for a nation.
Simply it is a test for the offspring of Adam and Eve.
Look at the life of the Prophets - more specifically the life of Prophet Muhammad SAW - the sufferings they have gone through.
May Allah SWT make us among the successful!
Allah bless you both. I am from Syrian but live in Sweden for seven years now and wish I meat brother Abdullah. I always listen to his lessons on RUclips. Respect and best wishes for both of you. 😊 må Allah belöna er paradiset inshaa Allah.
This is a wonderful discussion, neatly structured. I listened to a few months back. I am back here to listen again.
This is really crucial discussion to have. Thank you brother Paul. Alhamdulillah for Muslims we have lesser problem with the "problem of suffering" in the world due to realistic worldview and the incredibly consistent theology of Islam. Islamic God concept with many many attributes of Allah demonstrated in the stories and lessons given in the Quran and Sunna resolve the issue theologically. Only duty of Muslims is of course first learn these truths, and more importantly patiently go through the life's difficulties inflicting us.
Brilliant discussion and an in depth look into this issue. Thank you
Dr Sueidi really knows this topic inside out. May Allah reward him and you both.
Surah Al-Lail, Verse 8:
وَأَمَّا مَن بَخِلَ وَاسْتَغْنَىٰ
But he who is greedy miser and thinks himself self-sufficient.
(English - Mohsin Khan)
Alhamdulillah I watched this video while my left ear is swelling and is in really bad shape. I only pray to Allah to cleanse me from my sins rather than the disease. I’m getting very greedy to get as much forgiveness from Allah as I can despite my worst habits.
My favorite interview so far this year; amazing questions and discussion. May Allah reward you both.
This, for me, is the best piece of content so far on BT tabaarakAllah.
When you have people of the sunnah explaining any matter they refer to the Qur'an and Sunnah constantly. Absolutely wonderful. BaarakAllahufeekum
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Thanks a lot Mr Williams! You're a great thinker!
Not me!
May Allah helps you and protect you from all evil salam
I am keep learning so many new things after watching your video… May Almighty bless you.. Ameen
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
غَا فِرِ الذَّنْبِۢ وَقَا بِلِ التَّوْبِ شَدِيْدِ الْعِقَا بِ ذِى الطَّوْلِ ۗ لَاۤ اِلٰهَ اِلَّا هُوَ ۗ اِلَيْهِ الْمَصِيْرُ
"The forgiver of sin, acceptor of repentance, severe in punishment, owner of abundance. There is no deity except Him; to Him is the destination."
I'm so glad to see dr Abdullah on your channel. I've followed the activities of al-yaqeen center against atheism, where dr Abdullah presented some conferences and that was really interesting.
Dear and respected Paul. Thanks for the great work you are doing. May Allah bless you with tremendous victory.
جزاكم الله خيرا
Masha Allah. Excellent topic and excellent speaker as always brother Paul. May Allah reward the two of you for your efforts and keep us all in his mercy. Ameen.
Thank you, Paul, for discussing this topic. When speaking about suffering, we should remember the suffering we cause ourselves and each other due to our own selfish, hasty, weak and fearful nature. We cannot always lay the cause of suffering at God's door; Satan, too, accuses God of leading him astray. We should remain mindful of our own arrogance and blindness.
Muslims have always understood the fundamental need for suffering and the essential role it plays in the purification of the soul. From suffering we learn to know our selves, learn humility, develop patience and empathy, and embrace creativity and problem solving. Most importantly, suffering rewards us by sweetening prayer and unburdening us (we are utterly reliant on God). So that even when ease comes, we remain mindful of God.
In the discussion between Dr Bart Ehrman and Dr Lawrence Brown it was possible for viewers to leave with doubts or unanswered questions regarding some issues. Since then Dr Lawrence Brown's follow up discussion and this discussion seem to have covered that in order to address any potential doubts or unanswered questions that may have arisen from that session. Appreciate the deep thought and effort behind the 2 follow up videos, jazaak Allaah khayr
According to Muslim thought, this world is not paradise/Janna, but a test for both the believers and the unbelievers. It's not a logical problem for Muslims that there is suffering in this world. If the problems are created by men, then God/Allah permits the believers to rectify the error and restore justice. If it was caused by natural causes, this would have been written (maktub) for the believers and they must persevere, for their reward is in al-Ākhira/afterlife. As Mr. Sweidi says here, the claim that the belief in God is incompatible with the reality of the world is refutable. Thank you, Paul, for bringing all those brilliant minds to speak on your channel!
Ma Sha Allah tabaraka Allah , may Allah reward you Br. Paul and your esteemed guest Dr. Abdullah for this great video, it is like a fuel for Eman in Allah , his messenger and the hereafter. May Allah guide and keep us on the right path
Brother Paul, amazing once again. Thanks to Dr Abdullah Sueidi for in-depth view.
If you are suffering then you are doing something right ..without any form of suffering the meaning to life would be void ..perhaps even the worship to god too
The suffering argument by the atheists is the most useless and stupid argument since the suffering is an indivisible part of human life. Every atheist should ask his mother, sister or wife how much pain has to go through in his birth day.
Dear Paul
If suffering doesn’t exist, then children will never encounter “danger”. If children won’t encounter danger, then parents won’t worry about their children getting endangered and suffering injury as a result. Given the above causal arguments we can therefore conclude their won’t much need for parenthood (to provide shelter from danger and protection, love, education, …, etc. ). We won’t need to have families or belonging to a kinship. Life becomes easy and meaningless
@euthyphro dilemma if God’s law such that kids will not suffer then I would imagine all parents will leave their kids to live on their own. What drives as parents to care for our children?! It’s our compassion towards them because real life is full of both good grace and hardship.
@euthyphro dilemma are you a parent?
You won’t get it period.
@euthyphro dilemma what do u consider to be suffering? May be it will help me answer you more clearly
You cannot have a calm rational discussion with someone who is angry, arrogant, condescending and looking for a fight brother. You made a great point but the attitude of this person is clear: not only will he not accept what you say, he won't respect you either. He's looking to degrade and humiliate. Only sick people with disease in their hearts join gatherings of believers to try to humiliate them with their words. Of course, they fail to realize that they are the fools humiliating themselves in this world and in the next.
A wonderful discussion. I have watched it twice and have taken notes. Is there a way Paul, who I thank for a wonderful work he is doing - may Allah reward him for it immensely, can forward these rebuttals to Dr Bart Erhman please.
One of 6 pillars of belief in Islam. الإيمان بالقدر خيره و شره
On the topic of suffering, use the following counter-argument, even though to me it appears as extremely logical and impossible to deny. So let's take a hypothetical argument between two people.
Person 1: How can God be All-Good is there is so and so in the world?
Person 2: So you expect perfect equity in this life?
Person 1: Not perfect equity, but the easing of sufferings, no senseless deaths, no wars, no famine, no plagues, etc.
Person 2: Even if all that were to be satisfied, the person acclimated to that hypothetical society would find injustice in smaller things, such as differences in height, differences in ability (intellectual/physical), differences in how much a person earns, differences in the places in which people are born and how those peoples differ in terms of development, and so on.
Person 1: But at least there would be no suffering.
Person 2: For a human it would be good enough, but God is Perfect, and imperfection cannot be in His creation. A life where there is no post-judgement must be a perfectly equitable life, as otherwise why would an All-Good, All-Perfect God create people who lives would be, even in the most minute way, inequitable. Indeed the only solution for a perfect being to create true equity in this life is to remove free-will, and create us as perfect equals, like blades of grass.
Person 1: But that's clearly not how the world is now, humans are different, we aren't the same, the world is fundamentally unequitable. So how can God be All-Good.
Person 2: I gave the prior argument as a preface to this one. The All-Good nature of God can be understood more easily through his attribute of being the Most-Just. God is Perfectly Omniscient, you can view this Omniscience as the following: God sees every quark or lesser, in the Universe, at it's exact location, down to the Planck length, or lesser, at every Planck time, or lesser, for all time, throughout all time. He knows everything there is to know, and more. As such, he has absolute knowledge, and is the absolute reference for everything. This allows Him to deal Absolute Justice. God is All-Good because He will offset the inequity of this world perfectly in the world to come. His will not deliver injustice to a person lesser than the weight of an atom. He knows everything, and can quantify everything. Any injustice you suffered here will be accounted for by Him. If you were born poor, born disabled, born only to be killed in war, famine, disease, cancer, murder, He will account for that, and deal with you with Perfect Justice. It is the only way to achieve true equity. What God gives to you is better than what you ask for, you ask for a lack of suffering in this world, but that cannot be possible while free-will exists. God gives you both free-will and perfect equity, there is no injustice, and God remains All-Good. In short, given the current condition of how we are, how we are built, the natural inequity that results from various factors such as socioeconomics, militarism, human vice, or straight up biological intra/inter gender variance, it is impossible for an All-Good and Perfect God, unless the inequity is offset perfectly, at a later time. Which Muslims believe in anyways. An athiest must prove that a faith's beliefs cannot be just according to its own belief tenets, he must take these tenets as given, as he himself is trying to disprove that very faith. For this reason, an Athiest must also take into consideration what the Day of Judgement entails. Unfortunately, doing so would lead to the "suffering" argument falling apart, as it yields perfect equity. Do not forget your life is nothing in the eyes of time. You have never lived in comparison to the infinite.
And that is why amongst the 6 major beliefs of a Muslim, one of them is the Belief in the Day of Judgement. Not going to bother replying to comments, I have some weight to squat and bench.
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Very natural and easy to understand explanation, compatible with the villager to the throne, layman to the erudite. The wisdoms behind suffering far outweigh the harms, if only people knew.
Jazak Allah uncle Paul for sharing this video by inviting this beautiful shaikh on your Chanel May Allah bless him I can see the shaikh isn’t fluent in English lol he was kind of struggling with the language but still the shaikh did a beautiful job may Allah grant him good health and a long life, Ameen
JazakaAllahu khayr both of you brothers.
Tough topic . Dr. Sueidi handled it cautiously, slowly , but surely.
I do believe it is all about the “ Test “ from Almighty God and the vast meaning of it . Believers or unbelievers - all have to undergo tryouts with evil and good for them for a testing til their death.
Here is the verse from The Qur’an :
“ Every soul shall taste of death ; and we try you with evil and good for a testing ; then unto Us you shall be returned “. The Prophets : 36
Thank you. I hope this discussion helps any atheist listening in. Belief in the Creator is logical and helps us to live a better life. Where do atheists get their sense of morals and justice. Of course from religion.
Thankyou Paul brilliant guest brilliant topic. I always learn so much from your videos thanks to you and your Learned guests in a respectful and peaceful manner to all religions
Is good to bring Abdullah Sueidi again to debunk Darwinian evolution brother paul
Thank you bro Paul for all yr efforts. May Allah reward you duniya akherat!
Read the Surat El Kahf (Chapter 18, from verses 71 to 82), and it will clarify that everything (even if seems bad) has a very MERCIFUL reason and wisdom behind it...
This part of the Quran is unique, and clears the fog Elhamdulillah
Big Up Abdullah Assuedi and his crew over here in Sweden!
I have enjoyed this very much! JazakaAllahu khayr.
Dr Abdullah is clearly well thought and educated in theology and philosophy ....he brings arguments within its discipline. He is the more suitable dialog partner to Dr Bart...than Dr. Brown.....only than you can appreciate it intellectually and academically...
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This was an amazing discussion Paul, please bring on Dr. Abdullah again, inshallah.
Also the brief mention of Dr. Jonathan Brown at around 42:15 really made me think about how awesome it would be to see him on this channel. There are so many topics that would be interesting to see him cover. I'm sure if you ask him to come on he'll accept ;)
JazakAllahukhair
I have invited Dr. Jonathan Brown
@@BloggingTheology Yay! Alhamdulilah
What's our struggle comparing with the prophet Muhammad pbuh him , all his life was struggle from childhood as growing an orphan kids poor adult and the tortured he got from kfar and most of his relatives and kids died in his life until the last day of his life when he said the pain of illness that I have is is like the illness of tow man of you .
Even though he is the best of all creation he always reminded his companion of Akherah and the price of Allah is giving to the patient people .
What ever our like is as believers we feel comfortable alhamdulillah for every the only life is the thereafter.
thank you Paul and abdullah,
see how palestinian, kashmiri people and so..facing theire sufring by saying Alhamdollillah.
Thank to Dr Abdullah.and professor Paul williams.
Please professor Paul williams we need more people like Abdullah and many more in our very best chanel Blogging theology. God bless all ameen
Inshallah.
MashAllah excellent interview. I would love see more from Dr Sueidi in future.
Could we also have scholarly input on verses in the Quran that mention suffering at the hands of other human beings for which people blame God and on suffering caused by our own mistakes, sins, etc.
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Many thanks to Dr Sueidi for sharing his knowledge and opinion on a crucial matter. I've grown quite a bit through his insight.
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Had to edit because I misspelled his name, so sorry.
Wow very eye opening on the findings of Jonathan Brown and Dr. Suedi on the lack of coverage on suffering by Islamic scholars. It now makes sense that when we don't have the whole picture, we make suffering an existential crisis as Dr Suedi mentioned.
Paul, you didn’t again! You continuously surpass expectations! I find myself waiting with anticipation for what’s next!!! Many of us Muslims that aren’t well versed in Arabic fully appreciate having easy access to such discussions and explanations!!!!!!!!
Jazzak Allah kul Kheir
May Allah (SWT) reward you with many blessings🤲🏻
The truth can make you feel uncomfortable to hear yet is necessary. A Doctor doesn’t want to tell his client that he has only days to live from cancer, but he does so he can present the cure. The Medicine makes no sense without the diagnosis of sickness first. God has diagnosed you as a sick individual with symptoms of lying, stealing, disrespecting parents, lusting after women, corrupt thoughts etc Jesus is the Medicine/Cure for your sickness of sin otherwise you will remain sick and eventually die from your disease of sin. Your Thoughts?
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Dr. Sueidi is much better with his logic and argument compared to the previous Muslim guest you had with Dr. Ehrman. Thanks for the interview.
Subhanallah.
Now i understand. :)
Thanks Paul & Dr. Abdullah.
another awesome discussion , Allah bless you both
Thanks for the great discussion. I'd appreciate trying to simplify the language to make things easy to follow.
MaShaAllah….. great discussion
Brilliant talk. Please keep them coming.
I love this Swedish man!. I have learned a lot from you!. Stort respekt 🌷
Dear Paul, you had inquired at the end about some sources from a Muslim perspective: I recommend the new book God, Evil and Suffering in Islam by Salih Sayilgan (Cambridge University Press, 2023)
Atheists have a dialogue with their mind which is limited by the ego, while the believer is in dialogue with Allah and his infinate wisdom.
Atheists have done a lot of evel, why crying religion is the root of evel.
Great guest and host as always. Thank you!
@@srnp0007 For sure some do. What's your point?
@@srnp0007 The evidence points to ONE GOD! You need to do some work. Islam is rooted in truth. No worldly evidence can disprove it. Allah the Lord of the Universe sent to all humanity. May you be guided!!
@@srnp0007 The Qur'an is most preserved truth that ever was. I wish you enough wisdom to grasped it, in some capacity to lead to peace. For it is everlasting and forever guide for Humanity.
@@srnp0007 Sorry! I have to do my prayers. To you be your way and to me mine.
@@srnp0007 What If I told you, Whatever you say doesn't effect the preservation of Quran