3D Printing is SLOW?| FLSUN V400
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40 hours to print, 200 hours fixing the machine between failed prints
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Now answer this question, which printing quality was better?
Ima guess the slow ass one
@@TheFlamingoBird depends on the print and what filling you use. Sometimes the slow one and fast one have very similar quality because of the size and density of the filling.
You could also sand the quick one, easy fix
@@TheFlamingoBird it’s probably a cheeper printer so maybe not.
Now answer this question, why would you spend $400 and 20 hours to print something you literally wouldn't even want for free?
@@vincenth.8709 He prints useless stuff because RUclips doesn't like it when you show how to print guns
"A person with 3 hands."
Still one pencil.
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I… how do I explain this. Two people walking 3 mph will still do the same distance and work as one walking 6 mph. Speed also increases productivity…
Heads he said
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It's more because all three motors can work together and without needing a gantry like many printers have your print head weighs a lot less meaning you can accelerate and decelerate it faster and with more precision.
I didn't realise how big those boats were until you showed them for the second time and knocked them over. Damn they're huge
*cat for scale*
Same, The cat for scale didn't register in my brain
*laughs in bambu lab x1c that darts fast enough it shakes like an abused dog with Parkinson’s disease*
this is correct.
Have fun laughing alone
@@rango5136 I have one
@@rango5136my X1C printed a flawless benchy in far less time than this thing, first print out of the box
Bro the quality on the infill already tells me all I need.
He has not tuned it that good. Flsun SR is awesome, so the v400 should be just as good
100%
you can print the walls slower though
Then you clearly know very little about 3d printing.
You obviously have to tune it
Came for the cool 3D print stuff, stayed for the cute cat
cats > Dogs
@@maven9323 no, I really don’t think you should say different animals is better than others, it just causes conflicts.
@@wol_x are you saying we can’t have opinions
@@missilemadness6833 no but some people get offended if you say cats>dogs or dogs>cats
@@missilemadness6833 so keep your opinions for your self
We’re just gonna ignore the massive layer shift on the 7 hour print. Okay.
Speed doesn’t always = quality 😂
🤔 isn’t it always the opposite
I think it actually tore open due to poor layer adhesion and warping. This is what happens if you just crank up the movement speed and cooling.
Of course we will, like in all paid promos 😊
its not the layer shift. its the file itself. if you print any benchy it has that little line right there and since its bigger, it shows more. the person who made it just messed up on that part.
@@miniegrolltest8170 I have seen and printed many a benchy at that size and bigger none have ever done that. It's a layer shift that cooled faster than the rest causing warping and separation.
I have this printer for my lab at work - yes it’s fast and the work space is larger than the typical printer, but I do have to say there’s a slight loss in print quality at higher speeds. HOWEVER, it’s actually perfect for rapid prototyping if you’re trying designs out over and over again like I do all day. It saves quite a bit of time compared to my personal printer
How much does it cost?
@@GermanGuyEdits as of today, I think you can get it on sale for around $600
@@max_hairlossrather buy a much faster bambu for the same price tbh
@@Ckcdillpickle I’d completely agree - better speed and quality, only thing is build plate size is a bit smaller but that’s a trade off that’s with it
If you only knew hot to optimize the slicing for a fast printer like this...
i know man.. i got a tevo tornado running LAPS around his V400
@@ItsBoyRed what do u do?
how do i optimize prints for speed?
@@liammartin8773 search for elli's guide, read it through
@@liammartin8773klipper software and firm ware I believe.
Just ignore the massive line shift in all of them and youre good i guess
@@ohiohouston3560 that'll polish right out 👌
Delta printers have those kind of problems. The accuracy will never be as good as with a "classic" fdm printer, because you have to calibrate in three axis, not in two
What tf is a line shift
Is it me, or has the purple one split?
Hmm, tell me you don't 3d print without telling me you don't 3d print lol. You can't eliminate that line, it's in all benchies, that's not a line shift.
"7 hours for the huge one" *while there's a pretty gnarly delamination on it*
Same thought 😂
I think it might be 2 halves stick together because it was too big to print in one go lol the table on that thing isn't huge.
@@TomoHawKzZ it could definitely be, kinda hard to tell to be honest. I will say that as someone who works in 3D printing, it still does look like a delaminated layer, at least from this angle. Typically we call that a partial delamination because it would have recovered after that layer. You can also see some layer shifting in other parts of the boat model
@@hallokitty98 exactly, and also the infill structure is printed pretty poorly, it looks like he has to low temperature and printed in to high speed, the claims of high speed are claims for low Quality.
I personally dont like this kind of atidute
@@TomoHawKzZ But (If so) where is the purpose of printing a Benchmark if you cheat by printing it in two halfs and glue them together? In my opinion that whole video doesnt make sense
"It's... It's going 3x faster than the average 3D printer!" - Earth Federation Print Force.
*Chars gallant intensifies
now all we need is it in red
I thought that game died does it actually have a fandom still lmao
@@radical7628 bruh gundam is a multi million dollar franchise ain't no wayyy
HAHAHAHA
This printer is like the kid who knocks over his moms vase
30 minutes for the small one is slow compared to what others have done with the v400
In some years, people will look back and say: "Did you know people used to need HOURS to 3d print?!"
No,no no. You’ve got it wrong, they won’t even have 3d printers. They will literally make something better.
@@thatonememerguy eventually, sure. But the next step is, most likely, speed.
@@GOLVEL nah they’ll just be able to 3D print with their eyes with some chip in their eyeball
@@Usotsukii. could imagine, however, that's why I wrote "in some years"... as in a few ones.
@@GOLVEL no it wont, the next step is repetability and "comercial" Printer wich you Can use with no knowledge in electronic, Or software, speed in itself is pointless if people need Hours to calibrate the thing, that where printer like Bambulab are a real leap forward.
Normal Printer:**prints in a normal way**
FLSUN:**Intense Jedi noises**
Cat: “4 hours or 40 hours, I’m knocking these ma f***in’ boats over asap”
_bambu lab x1 carbon has entered the chat_
Mine prints so fast
Nice AD you got there. But if you wanna go fast go with a CoreXY build like a Voron.
Look up Voron 0 Speed Benchy, its about the quality you push out here on the "fast" printer but in under 4minutes.
Makes me think of the 90's how document printers could take 15-30 minutes to print a color page with photos.
Now it'll take any printer a few seconds.
Voron 0: Hold my bee.... sorry, already drank it.
My V0.1 : casually prints at 500mm/s 10k accel
@@eski5195 Ehh mm^3/s with a 0.6mm nozzle is a much more relevant metric than mm/s
@@NavinF yea speedsters need to know volumetric rates. It's getting to the point where the hotend is the bottleneck. I'm printing at ~25mm/s^3 though a 0.4mm CHT on a Dragon HF.
@@Apophis-en9pi must explain the existence Slice Magnum Plus I think it is that can take dual 50W heaters.
@@filanfyretracker 100w of heat is so much it's silly.
assuming a baseline thermal loss of 20 watts on a normal heater block
That leaves you with about 80 watts dedicated for melting the plastic.
That gives you about 4kg/hr.
Yes. 4KG.
(or about 1000mms^3 ... That's not a typo)
40 hours?? It really isn't THAT slow
But he said to print all of them, looks like you got confused like me....
Maybe not quite 40 hours, but at least 24 hours.
it absolutely is, 3d printing is a hobby of patience
@@paulyd4978 Despite that, I still wish to save up for a 3D printer one day. But that might be in a couple of months or years...
@@paulyd4978 it could take that long but you would have no benefit. My cheap printer could print equal or better quality benchies in less time by just tweaking the settings to optimize print time and quality.
@@imnotbeluga007 that’s not slow
Save 60 percent of time compared to other fdm printers and lose 60 percent print place (approximately).🎉🎉🎉
Bambu X1 Carbon be like, “Hold my extruder…”
14 hours with a big huge ring in it!! I’ll keep my printer that prints well thank you
That's a problem with calibration or just trying to push it as fast as it can go.
Bambu X1C smokes everything out there on speed, quality and tech
@@braunsch4901 Tech, yes. Speed, no.... Quality? As far as quality goes, plenty of printers can high quality when they are properly calibrated.
I just love the cat chilling on the back like when you finna feed bruh
The problem is that printing doesn't scale as the square or cube, ex (double size) 2×scale = 8×vol (8x print time).
Perimeters have to go slow no matter the size same with top and bottom.
I expected it to be an answer not being included, like 400 hours
Don't need a new delta printer to increase speed. Most printers are cable of this speed. Speed is determined by the quality and power of the hot end, which has a finite limit based.
Not really these days. Printing speed is tied to strength and rigidity of the frame. So yeah deltas are absolutely not the best when it comes to speed or even accuracy. They trade off a meager speed increase for substantially less geometrically accurate parts. Core XYs are the kings of both speed and accuracy.
People might say 3D printing is slow, but it is usually still a lot faster (and cheaper) than ordering simple parts online. Even if you have to create the part yourself.
Like I just used mine to make some Gopro mounts, takes about 20-40 min to make a mount depending on size. And you can just let it run over night while you are asleep.
I like to design my own parts for various things. Of course if it's a common thing like gopro mounts then there's likely someone already made one in which case I'd just download and print. Or modify
You realize filament is $10 for a roll that can print dozens of prints, right? And most take less than 5 hours
@@KingRootBeer I don't get your point, I didn't say it was bad. I guess the plastic is about $20 per kg, which is rather expensive compared to other production processes but the manufacturing cost is a lot less (just the machine, power and some maintenance. No expensive molds).
So you get most parts a lot cheaper and faster than ordering stuff online.
But only to a certain degree. Like you wouldn't want to print anything too large, otherwise the plastic cost will quickly add up. (You wouldn't print an entire plastic chair to save cost)
I've been using a 3D printer almost daily for over 10 years and for me it saved a lot of money and time. (But I'm an engineer so it might be a bad example)
@@ugandanknuckles3429 You realize plastic molds can cost thousands right?
3 times faster at only 900 times the price?
I’ll take it!
I can literally see the lines and scratches on faster printed boats 💀
I said 2 days before you listed the options
I guess I have a knack for guessing print times
No it looks like three robots trying to communicate with their dead friends on an ouija board
"3d printing a 3d printer" thats a banger right there
Welcome to the concept of RapRep
everyone thinks they being clever with that statement not realizing that 3D printing a 3D printer is what popularized 3D printing a decade ago. (called project RepRap)
What's next, automotives being used to ship parts around to build more automotives? Crazy world!
What he didn't mention was it also depends on printer settings too
What’s the print quality of the FL compared to the slow one
I guess pretty bad, you can't increase filament max speed by buying faster printer
Shhh, that would be against the sponsor's wishes on this brand deal.
The quality on the v400 is fantastic. Quality suffers on every printer when you're pushing it to its maximum speed.
As someone with a 3d printer, I can confirm. To make the small cat that was already defaulted as a design on the printer, it took at least 5 hours.
For a small Mario coin the size of a dime, it took 18 minutes.
EDIT: I have an Ender v2 I believe
Nice me to. Just edited some firmware and i can print with polycarbonate and nylon :)
@MG Burrito yes, but I like printing with PLA. Also, I suck at adding stuff
@@BeanieBoos1O1 all I can say is get jyers firmware. Real easy to install and is worlds better than creality's pile of shit. Look up a vid of it it'll take you 15 minutes and will drastically change your printer. (If you don't have auto leveling get the base firmware. I.e. no 3x3 or 5x5)
Same
The Cat stl that comes with Ender printers is isnt optimized at all. You can easily print that without any infill at 90-110mm/s. If you keep printing at 50-60mm/s then no wonder why it took you 5 hours. 18 minutes for a coin the size of a dime? Bro, calibrate and tune your printer and slicer.
My Ender v3 printed benchi in like I don’t know 30 mins
“Add them up and we got”
Me: brain damage
Edit: thanks for 32 likes
Me: let’s do some math then: 5sc+ 1h = 1.2h
Him: let’s do some math 5ec + 1h + 1.2h = 4.2h
Me having a lot of 3D printing experience: it’s prob a trick question and it’s 4 hours
Reality: it took 40 hours as usual
The trick question is for the people who have little to no 3D printing experience. You just played yourself.
Your example 'other' printer is just on incredibly slow settings. The printer I built myself in 2007 is just as fast as your product-placement advertised printer.
AnkerMake is making the little one within 15 minutes.
Ooh you have good content!! U earned a new sub 👍
Remember, when you print faster, the layers dont have enough time to bond as well. While yes, you are printing faster, you are sacrificing strength. It's not slow, it's just how slow it has to be to get good layer adhesion
A way you get around this is to 3d print at higher temperatures. Printers can print faster when they have better cooling, so to allow the layers to adhere better with the stronger cooling solution, you print the plastic hotter. I print PLA at 230 at high speeds. Not only does it give me comparable strength, but it makes it easier on the extruder and the enhanced cooling doesn't lead to a loss in quality due to higher temp printing.
This.
Not true, polymer sets almost instantly. If anything, you'd like the previous layer to still have some heat in it for optimal strength.
I do large-scale development, and I have analysed the entire process under thermal cameras.
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Ah but need to factor in poor and failed prints, like that big purple one, that would need to be printed again. There's a balance of speed and quality, it's getting better, but just "gotta go fast" won't cit it chief
Is there any specific reason I always see people printing that specific boat?
**in walks Bambu Lab:
“Cute”
Might never buy a different brand after buying X1C, thing is elite in every way
OK stop...these $1000 (or 1500 if you get the mmu unit) seem too good to be true but I want one so bad...
The cat is the best part of the videos
Y do I want one of these now
Can someone help me set up my printer, I just got my first one for my birthday and I can’t figure it out I have the “Ender 3 v-2 neo”
Cat in the background :
yo what is this guy yapping about give me food dude
Wow!
The fact that the last ship didn't take 8 hours hurt my OCD
What is the music, it soud reallt good. Btw, your videos are very cool, i love your cat too:)
I got Bambu lab x1c it took like 15 mins. If I use 0.8 mm nozzle it prints even faster.
I always print at 120% speed on my anycubic cobra 2 neo. Prints are way better than at slower speeds
I’m guessing the cat is also 3d printed
I used to run my i3 mega at 400% speed. Had to sit and watch almost every moment of the print but god was it fast.
Start praying to god, because this man is satan.
Why not pick a 0.6 nozzle and print at 0.3 layer height or get 0.4 nozzle with 0.6 line width and 0.2-0.3 layer height? For my 10h print it makes it a 4.5h print and with all metal hotend and retarded high print speed and temperature a 2h print :D
@@WiewiurTV what's the setting for cura? Will need to mess around a bit
@@SahilP2648 You need to physically buy a 0.6 nozzle as the diameter of the nozzle usually is either 0.4mm or 0.3mm in very very old printers.
Does the quality decrease with the increased speed?
Hey, Can you make a liquid proof cup from it? I am thinking to buy V400
Respect for the cat being in every video vibing
The cat is so helpful
3D printing isn't slow, cheap 3d printers are.
Speed and quality can walk together as long as you have a decent printer.
The printer used for this video cannot be used as reference for both. I've a Voron and building another one, you can have both high speed AND high quality prints.
This is nonsense, I run my $120 3D printer at 75mm/s and it’s grand
I actually got the flsun V400 printer I made a couple of things for gifts 🎁
Apparently if you spam skeleton emojis like this 💀💀💀💀💀💀 you will get a lot of likes
No one: litterly no one: That 3d printer: AM PLAYING STARWARS!
My sla printer still faster than this printer
(Elegoo saturn 3 ultra 12k)
The owl my dad made on the 3d printer took 32😬hours
My anxiety:💹💹💹💹💹💹💹💹💹💹💹💹
I wanna know why he's pretending like each printer can only print at one speed. My bet is, the OP is inexperienced and will shill for any company that pays him.
Well this is still a lot faster
@@MrSkeleton14 Only because he set it to print faster on the machine he's advertising
Didnt Tell US price
It stills less than my 2G download speed (aint jokking)😂
66% would be 3x faster and 60% is pretty damn close!
So in other words if you picked A or B you were wrong
I’ve seen a Bambi lab printer that printed one in 17 minutes, not even on its fastest speed (although they cost a couple thousand dollars)
the bambulab p1s prints the benchy in 18 minutes for $600
"And we got....."
*Cat kicks off the boats*
"....14.5 hours"
14.5 hours, i guessed before watching
Is no one gonna talk about that NASTY layer shift on the biggest benchy. That should tell you everything you need to know about printing too fast like that 😂
Can you help me 3-D print stuff? I’m not able to 3-D print on my 3-D printer. It’s the FLSUN V 400.
I printed a 2 foot bong yesterday, with 100% in fill, a pretty big one with q built in bulb and bowl. Took 4 hours. Not sure why but my printer goes pretty fast. I can speee it up a lot too. The lines are supwr nice too.
My ender 3 prints just as fast as the delta printer
little idiot me said “woah 14.5 hours! thats still like over 1 day!” i cant do math omg
Shouldn’t be going that fast if u can’t get it spit it out and suck it back up. But I will say that having a bed that doesn’t move is very accurate
Creality k1 has a significantly fast time on benchys
me: " *well since 40 hours is a answer ill choose it* "
It's fast but it's built like crap, doesn't feed fast enough and if it needs maintenance good luck. Also, it can't print carbon fiber PETG.
My guy, it's not three times the hands. A traditional printer uses a motor for each X and Y axis. You've got 50% more motors doing the same style of motion. Be real, here.
Dude check out Bambu Lab X1 Carbon. It prints at 500 mm/sec!!!
Bro knows how to keep the internet attention: just put a cat in every. single. video.
Im pretty sure that is a wye structure not delta. It looks like a wye powerline connection and not like a delta one
That one was really cool this one that I'm watching
thats still pretty slow. Take for example the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon or a Voron Printer, they are way faster
homie....fix your video. You say 40 hours, but then calculate 14 hours. 40!=14.
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If you had a good printer. It would have taken 1 hour...