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Lol right there with you. Honestly though I went to perochial school and learning about angels then wasn't much different lol, like you said my interest is just more for SMT.
@@RemoWilliams1227 I also had a lot of religious studies and stuff at school like 10 years ago, but I think my thing is that I'm not religious, so I always took that as fantasy, and when we have SMT, it's easier to understand and appreciate the fantasy aspects and lore of it
On the interpretation of Metatron having a "robotic" role, I feel one reason for his depiction in this series is specifically symbolic of Enoch's transformation. Metatron, (and Sandalphon as well, as mentioned in the video) appears as a robot because he was not "born" an angel, but "made" into one, and is an "artificial" angel as a result.
Many descriptions of the bible are also pretty symbolic rather than literal... thousand of mouths referring as voices, on how to speak, may be he sounds like a robot and the best description for that is thousand of mouths, and having thousand of eyes are also another symbolic meaning of not being one metatron, but many metatron too
Typically the Host of Heaven are described as mechanical in their praises to the one Great and Honored. Isaiah 6 (NIV) 6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory.” 4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke. 5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.” Notice his reverence in sight of this scene. Compare his reaction to the gospel of the Host of Heaven. Now look at Revelations 4 The Throne in Heaven 4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits[a] of God. 6 Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal. In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,’[b] who was, and is, and is to come.” 9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say: 11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” The Haevenly host are seemingly mechanical in their gospel , devoid of any negative emotion and undying positive light for the lord. This is why I believe they made Metatron along with other Angels in SMT robotic. This is just my theory though and it is a Video Game after all. I like the theory that he is like an Artificial Angel as well.
In Gabriel's defense, she's not just the angel of prophecy. She's also sometimes depicted as an angel of death and mercy. Death is not always frightening, but welcome. And the mercy of YHWH requires love nearly as great as her creator. Thus, depicting her as a beautiful entity wielding a sword and lilies invokes the popular idea that she brings God's mercy wherever she goes.
@TheRealMakotoYuki675 Even if it's an insult it's true. Take out the names and the religious contexts, and what are you left with? A character who is at first human becomes the most important and loved in the eyes of an almighty being and is put higher than the original folk of the almighty, due to the mains characters actions, which align with the authors interpretation of a story he originally had no part in. So I mean, he's right regardless. Personally I find the concept of Metatron fascinating, as I'm sure do a lot others, but it makes sense why even the most faithful may not consider him Canon.
One Angel I would love to hand appear in SMT is Raziel. Raziel is also known as the "Angel of Secrets" and the "Angel of Mysteries”. He is also called "Keeper of All Magic." Allegedly when Adam & Eve were banished the Garden of Eden, Raziel imparted the knowledge he learned from listening to god onto them, so they could come to a better understanding of God and find their way “home”. So I could see Raziel fitting really well in SMT as a Law Representative. A relatively benevolent figure who wants humans to come to worship god via their own power and will, and genuinely cares for humans.
Damn, imagine you're an angel created straight from God at the beginning and then one day God's like "Hey guys, see that human right there?" points to Enoch "Yeah so he's an angel now , his name will be Metatron and from now on whatever he says you must obey as if it came straight from me" lol
God's bias towards humans when angels have been loving and working for Big G since forever and are able to nearly kill humans just by existing near them is why I kinda sympethize with Lucifer
@@macicoinc9363 What happened to Lucifer, if it truly was just because humans were made in the image of God, would be no different to discarding a pet after it outgrew its "cute" phase and then buying a replacement. In addition, are you unable to sympathize with something unless it looks like you?
Tony you are one of my favorite MegaTen youtubers. You go above and beyond with these lore videos and they're SO informative. Your channel is beyond underrated and deserves more recognition.
That really means a lot, thanks so much! I always try to do the best I can with these videos, but I wouldn't have nearly as much inspiration to make them without the kind words in the comments
As a lover of animals, I find Cherub's initial SMT appearance rather cute, lol. I wonder if the octopus on Powers' shield may represent YHVH's status as ruler over the universe or something like that; arms spreading all around? I think it would make sense. The strange gear and blindfold on Devil Summoner's and Persona's Angel might be the same kind of symbolism as SMTV's mask; that these angels are really just puppets carrying out YHVH's will loyally.
A whole hour of Tony4Me? Love the content Tony! I always have your videos on when in the background while I'm working, your voice is real calming and I appreciate the SMT lore. Keep it up, I hope there's a lot more Tony4Me in the New Year!
I love that you took all your angel videos and god and combined it into one long video. it is super awesome to watch and your voice is soothing to sleep too.
Listening to your explanation, couldnt an inspiration of Sandalphon and Metatrons metallic exteriors be that they are artificial angels, born originally as men and then reconstructed as angels, as if robots reprogrammed or alternatively metal replacing the tainted skin of the human world.
That is a very interesting interpretation, one I actually think is most likely true. With them being tempered in the fires of heaven and reborn, a metallic like exterior makes sense. Especially since God is described in similar ways
My favorite non-named angle design is blue haired Dominion, It just looks so beautiful to me and my favorite named angel design is Gabriel because green is my favorite color.
Slightly out of context, but for the longest time I thought that Kin-ki‘s, Fuu-ki‘s and Sui-ki‘s names were some sort of innuendo. The thought that they were just separate types of Oni never crossed my mind
Meta or μετά as we write it int Greece it translates to "next" which can be used in different ways such as "he rules next to God" which in that case means after the God not besides. You could also use the exact same sentence but instead mean next as in besides God (in the English translation because in Greek we would use a different word, δίπλα which translates as in besides or next in English). Honestly as Greek I can say that many times our context can be easily misunderstood by people that live in other countries which is why there's so much misinformation and misunderstandings about our history and sometimes even us.
1 hour of great information dump! Great work, Tony man. Love the section explaining Mastema and Metatron. Funny too think how Metatron/Metraton worked overtime in games, like showing in Konami titles, reads: Silent Hill and Zone of the Enders. In one it's a seal, a symbol to restrain demons and in the other its a kind of ore, used by the mechas from that universe to operate. Keep up, man!
21:09 woah, now that's something I never thought I'd think about: the politics of Heaven. The war in heaven was partially caused by Lucifer being discontent with the idea of humans. And that war ended up kicking up 1/3 of all angels. And there were probably a lot of angels who weren't kicked that were probably also buds with the angels that were. So it'd obviously be natural that they'd feel slightly uncomfortable at the thought of having one as their boss
Just imagine how much controversy this series would have gotten if it was localized outside of japan sooner, especially SMT 2 and its YHVH. The Post Satanic Panic America would flip out. XD
@@Tony4You ironically enough, the first one isn't that problematic from a Christian standpoint. after all, it's not like God is portrayed as an outright villain.
I remember the first video of yours i saw when i found about your channel last year. It was the nocturne endings video and ever since then you've geniunely been my favorite megaten youtuber. Bonus points for being one of the few that give Law its fair share of spotlight and attention Keep up the good work man,Kagatsushi bless you OwO
Sorry for being late and while I think posted this before, my favorite type of angels are the Powers and Archangels, with my favorite named angel being Michael.
I think the wheel in the throne design is meant to reference the samsara since it has 6 spokes. It symbolizes the cycle of death and rebirth, which effectively conveys their role in collecting souls that can be more easily understood than doing a more 1:1 recreation of their most common depiction.
I love your videos, always interesting. I'd love to see you cover Sraosha. One of my favorite law demons. I actually thought he would be in this video but I checked the wiki and apparently they have a different origin.
Your voice is very comfortable and your explanations detailed yet consice as well as specifying the texts you source from, which is good because God knows people online will say stuff and the only source is "trust me :)" Of course, translations can differ greatly, but you at least specify which text, thank you!
Wow, you got sponsored by Atlus, great job? I never knew that besides making JRPGS, they also make VPNS, but hey, I want to summon demons and research their summoning conditions privately, so a VPN may come in handy. One question: does it also offer better deals for the demon auction?
I adore Virtues. But my favorite angel in smt is one that only appeared once or twice and you didn't mention. Haniel, the angel of joy and victory. She's wonderful. Also can we talk about how Koneko completely nailed the design of Angel in SMT I? The bondage gear is fine, but the original design is beautiful .
throne's design actually reminds me of the story of Ixion, a greek king who flirted with Zeus's wife Hera. as punishment Ixion was tied to a wheel on fire and flung across the stars never dying in eternal flame and agony.
From i can remember i only care about lesser mytological creatures and myths more attached to popular supersticions. But two years ago, and seven after discovering smt, i became interested in angels and the sacred texts, in a same way the other myths and religions. And a year ago i discovered ur channel and became more interested in it, and thanks to ya i begined to aprecciate the law routes and angels. Maybe too short of a text to pull all words i want or can say but i dont want to make a new bible of this x) And of course u do awesome videos needless to say.
@christopherbravo1813 think they ment how the games make him look up the information, I'm kinda the same way, will never touch a Bible but I'll watch these
Only just discovered this channel but I have to say I'm in love with your immaculate research and impartial observances on the natures and depictions of all these religious entities. The quotations especially are pleasing to the ear; I almost wish you'd do some audibooks of the Bible, mad as it sounds.
the reason metatron is potrayed as a robot is probably due to the association of "-tron"with machine,that and how meta kinda sounds like metal "metaltron" out of context does sound like a generic machine name
30:28 ah yes the story that tells how god´s ego made a poor guy lose everything. why? cuz the lucifer said "he aint loyal" and god was like "wanna bet bitch" .
When I saw the length, I thought you were going to talk about all the archangels because the four well known archangels aren't the only ones playing in smt
17:13 I think the last design is supposed to show their blind devotion to god as they don't think for themselves or have a conscience but it's still a little bit weird
Because it's SMT has it's own lore, because it's a game and doesn't have to 100% accurate and exactly like Bible, because it's different, hell there are a couple of different versions of Christianity and they're a bit different with each other (one example is that in one version if you commit self deletion you go to hell but in another you don't). Honestly I can keep going but that's a game made for JRPG gamers, not for churches and preaching, it's only natural to be different, take marvel for example, Odin, Thor and Loki are NOTHING alike their mythological counterparts but the pagans don't complain about it.
They describe an angels feet as being those of a calf, but I don’t think people have seen a newborn calf’s hooves, they aren’t normal hooves, trypophobia warning if you go look it up
Lol watching this entire video w 0 context was interesting I mean I’ve def run out of things to watch on RUclips but I jus clicked on this assuming it was related to a certain shonen jump anime I forgot the name of but nice vid😂
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Could you make video on Eitehr Samael or Nidhoggr? They are some of my favorite demons in Megami Tensei Series.
Wow what a perfect sponsor for this series
I couldn't have given half a damn about this when I was sitting in church as a kid but slap megaten on the cover and suddenly I'm enthralled.
Lol right there with you. Honestly though I went to perochial school and learning about angels then wasn't much different lol, like you said my interest is just more for SMT.
@@RemoWilliams1227 I also had a lot of religious studies and stuff at school like 10 years ago, but I think my thing is that I'm not religious, so I always took that as fantasy, and when we have SMT, it's easier to understand and appreciate the fantasy aspects and lore of it
On the interpretation of Metatron having a "robotic" role, I feel one reason for his depiction in this series is specifically symbolic of Enoch's transformation. Metatron, (and Sandalphon as well, as mentioned in the video) appears as a robot because he was not "born" an angel, but "made" into one, and is an "artificial" angel as a result.
Another reason is in the name: MetaTRON. Evokes robot vibes, no?
Many descriptions of the bible are also pretty symbolic rather than literal... thousand of mouths referring as voices, on how to speak, may be he sounds like a robot and the best description for that is thousand of mouths, and having thousand of eyes are also another symbolic meaning of not being one metatron, but many metatron too
@@Youhadabadday2021 as Is mutation suckerberg
Typically the Host of Heaven are described as mechanical in their praises to the one Great and Honored.
Isaiah 6 (NIV)
6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphim, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory.”
4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke.
5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Notice his reverence in sight of this scene. Compare his reaction to the gospel of the Host of Heaven.
Now look at Revelations 4
The Throne in Heaven
4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits[a] of God. 6 Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.
In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:
“‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’[b]
who was, and is, and is to come.”
9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
11
“You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”
The Haevenly host are seemingly mechanical in their gospel , devoid of any negative emotion and undying positive
light for the lord.
This is why I believe they made Metatron along with other Angels in SMT robotic. This is just my theory though and it is a Video Game after all. I like the theory that he is like an Artificial Angel as well.
Yeah, Mettaton- i mean metatron DOES evoke robot vibes
In Gabriel's defense, she's not just the angel of prophecy. She's also sometimes depicted as an angel of death and mercy. Death is not always frightening, but welcome. And the mercy of YHWH requires love nearly as great as her creator. Thus, depicting her as a beautiful entity wielding a sword and lilies invokes the popular idea that she brings God's mercy wherever she goes.
Gabriel is one of the deepest rabbit holes I went down for any angel and I was really blown away with how awesome she is
Ah, so that's why she has Mudo in DDS2.
That could also just be a curveball because you'd expect an angel to deal light damage@@espurrseyes42
I can see why Metatron's not considered canon, he sounds like a fancharacter.
He's the autor's OC
Definitely an OC but still pretty neat.
Is that a insult because it sounds a little offensive to me 😅
@TheRealMakotoYuki675 Even if it's an insult it's true. Take out the names and the religious contexts, and what are you left with? A character who is at first human becomes the most important and loved in the eyes of an almighty being and is put higher than the original folk of the almighty, due to the mains characters actions, which align with the authors interpretation of a story he originally had no part in. So I mean, he's right regardless. Personally I find the concept of Metatron fascinating, as I'm sure do a lot others, but it makes sense why even the most faithful may not consider him Canon.
One Angel I would love to hand appear in SMT is Raziel. Raziel is also known as the "Angel of Secrets" and the "Angel of Mysteries”. He is also called "Keeper of All Magic."
Allegedly when Adam & Eve were banished the Garden of Eden, Raziel imparted the knowledge he learned from listening to god onto them, so they could come to a better understanding of God and find their way “home”.
So I could see Raziel fitting really well in SMT as a Law Representative. A relatively benevolent figure who wants humans to come to worship god via their own power and will, and genuinely cares for humans.
Honestly, Raziel would sound like an amazing Law Representative when you put it like that.
Oh, that's just neat.
So basically Light-Law rep
Noice
a pretty neat substitute for Metatron or hell, potentially clashes with him even
sounds like what Mastema tried to do in IV.
Damn, imagine you're an angel created straight from God at the beginning and then one day God's like "Hey guys, see that human right there?" points to Enoch "Yeah so he's an angel now , his name will be Metatron and from now on whatever he says you must obey as if it came straight from me" lol
big reason why I don't think Metatron actually exists.
Those two probably fuelled more Lucifer copycats.
God's bias towards humans when angels have been loving and working for Big G since forever and are able to nearly kill humans just by existing near them is why I kinda sympethize with Lucifer
@@ZenoDLC Humans are made in the image of God, angels are not. There is nothing about Lucifer that invokes sympathy, only pity.
@@macicoinc9363 What happened to Lucifer, if it truly was just because humans were made in the image of God, would be no different to discarding a pet after it outgrew its "cute" phase and then buying a replacement. In addition, are you unable to sympathize with something unless it looks like you?
Tony needs to open his own Sunday School. The presentation alone makes learning about these topics really engaging.
I mean damn, regardless of what you believe, you can't deny it's informative and fun as hell thanks to the SMT medium
Tony you are one of my favorite MegaTen youtubers. You go above and beyond with these lore videos and they're SO informative. Your channel is beyond underrated and deserves more recognition.
That really means a lot, thanks so much! I always try to do the best I can with these videos, but I wouldn't have nearly as much inspiration to make them without the kind words in the comments
@@Tony4You I agree with Kay, your content is top-notch
Praise his name, praise his notification
Day 1 kings
I like this definitive video for the heavenly hosts in smt. I'd love something similarly for the demons of the goetia and other servants of chaos.
Ars Goetia is coming soon!
cant wait for goetia, that ones gonna be great
As a lover of animals, I find Cherub's initial SMT appearance rather cute, lol.
I wonder if the octopus on Powers' shield may represent YHVH's status as ruler over the universe or something like that; arms spreading all around? I think it would make sense.
The strange gear and blindfold on Devil Summoner's and Persona's Angel might be the same kind of symbolism as SMTV's mask; that these angels are really just puppets carrying out YHVH's will loyally.
A whole hour of Tony4Me?
Love the content Tony! I always have your videos on when in the background while I'm working, your voice is real calming and I appreciate the SMT lore.
Keep it up, I hope there's a lot more Tony4Me in the New Year!
Couldnt agree more. I actually got excited when I saw the video. Keep making longer videos!
Thanks for watching and suporting! Always happy to hear people have been enjoying my stuff for a while. Hope to see you all in the new year too!
So, would Mastema basically be God's Vibe Checker?
He is the equivalent to Willy Wonka's Arthur Slugworth. He exists to test your loyalty to his master by tempting you to misbehave or disobey.
Kinda, but don't forget that he likes to do a "little trolling" as well.
I love that you took all your angel videos and god and combined it into one long video. it is super awesome to watch and your voice is soothing to sleep too.
Really appreciate it lol. I always get flattered when people ay they use my vids to fall asleep, so I made some supercuts just for that!
@@Tony4You No, thank you I absolutely love your content.
Listening to your explanation, couldnt an inspiration of Sandalphon and Metatrons metallic exteriors be that they are artificial angels, born originally as men and then reconstructed as angels, as if robots reprogrammed or alternatively metal replacing the tainted skin of the human world.
That is a very interesting interpretation, one I actually think is most likely true. With them being tempered in the fires of heaven and reborn, a metallic like exterior makes sense. Especially since God is described in similar ways
Think it's just a plan of the fact Metatron's name sounds like Megatron
@@arthurdossantos6826 that doesnt explain Sandalphon though
@@loyalmctinfoil Because they're twins.
@@arthurdossantos6826 but sandalphon does not sound like megatron
My favorite non-named angle design is blue haired Dominion, It just looks so beautiful to me and my favorite named angel design is Gabriel because green is my favorite color.
It would be cool if you talked about Kin-ki and the whole Ki family of demons/personas. I think that would be very interesting
Slightly out of context, but for the longest time I thought that Kin-ki‘s, Fuu-ki‘s and Sui-ki‘s names were some sort of innuendo. The thought that they were just separate types of Oni never crossed my mind
@@KeDe1606 I can kind of see where your coming from. Kin-ki's name really doesn't help either, right? 💀
@@CJones-iz3hd oh he was DEFINITELY the main contender behind me thinking that. Fuu-ki and Sui-ki are a bit more of a stretch though
Interesting Idea for sure. I've wanted to talk about the Yokai of SMT for a while so I'll add it to the list
@@KeDe1606 Is it really, Fuu ki sounds like f*ck, Sui Ki...you can imagine
Meta or μετά as we write it int Greece it translates to "next" which can be used in different ways such as "he rules next to God" which in that case means after the God not besides.
You could also use the exact same sentence but instead mean next as in besides God (in the English translation because in Greek we would use a different word, δίπλα which translates as in besides or next in English). Honestly as Greek I can say that many times our context can be easily misunderstood by people that live in other countries which is why there's so much misinformation and misunderstandings about our history and sometimes even us.
1 hour of great information dump! Great work, Tony man.
Love the section explaining Mastema and Metatron. Funny too think how Metatron/Metraton worked overtime in games, like showing in Konami titles, reads: Silent Hill and Zone of the Enders. In one it's a seal, a symbol to restrain demons and in the other its a kind of ore, used by the mechas from that universe to operate.
Keep up, man!
2:56 They had to go through five Adams before they figured that part out.
Mommy Gabriel..I mean Mommy I mean Mommy I mean holy mommy.
It's Holy mother Gabriel for you, heathen!
Gabriel: Such unbridled lust.
Asmodeus: Hehehe
shoutout smt1 gabriel pre hrt
YHVH: STOP SINNING
Sorry mister YHVH it's like green mommy who my name is celebrited when You said Mary she was baring Jesus.
Really glad you made a supercut. I'm like nostalgic remembering listening to some of these on drives home from work
Crazy to think I made a lot of these vids a long time ago, glad I could put them out again for everyone to enjoy
Wow a full hour. Tony impresses me as always.
Thank you Mr.4you for this blessed content🙏
YHVH bless🙏
Thank you! You're a real legend from the beginning!
Man the Demon Summoning games are so fun, really immersive too. Glad for the info dump and hope you get tons of new subs. I want more SMT
Here's hoping, thanks a lot!
21:09 woah, now that's something I never thought I'd think about: the politics of Heaven. The war in heaven was partially caused by Lucifer being discontent with the idea of humans. And that war ended up kicking up 1/3 of all angels. And there were probably a lot of angels who weren't kicked that were probably also buds with the angels that were. So it'd obviously be natural that they'd feel slightly uncomfortable at the thought of having one as their boss
Just imagine how much controversy this series would have gotten if it was localized outside of japan sooner, especially SMT 2 and its YHVH. The Post Satanic Panic America would flip out. XD
Yeah I have a feeling they want to keep those old games under wraps forever despite how good they are narratively
@@Tony4You ironically enough, the first one isn't that problematic from a Christian standpoint. after all, it's not like God is portrayed as an outright villain.
Yeah. If pokemon is demonic, then this is crafted by satans hands himself
@@onezerozeroonethree2369 "Do this and you will become greater than God."
tale as old as time.
I remember the first video of yours i saw when i found about your channel last year.
It was the nocturne endings video and ever since then you've geniunely been my favorite megaten youtuber.
Bonus points for being one of the few that give Law its fair share of spotlight and attention
Keep up the good work man,Kagatsushi bless you OwO
Another amazing video as always Law Hero. Keep it up 💯🙅♂️🧢
Thank you legend, Tony of the Messian cult will always aim to please!
I just discovered your channel. It's great! Thank you so much for all that juicy lore.
I appreciate it! I hope to see you in the comments of the videos to come as well!
About time Atlus sponsored Tony! I’ve been waiting for thi- hey wait.
Idk if I can watch all this but I really respect the grind
Sorry for being late and while I think posted this before, my favorite type of angels are the Powers and Archangels, with my favorite named angel being Michael.
I think the wheel in the throne design is meant to reference the samsara since it has 6 spokes. It symbolizes the cycle of death and rebirth, which effectively conveys their role in collecting souls that can be more easily understood than doing a more 1:1 recreation of their most common depiction.
I love your videos, always interesting. I'd love to see you cover Sraosha. One of my favorite law demons. I actually thought he would be in this video but I checked the wiki and apparently they have a different origin.
I always thought he was very interesting, I'll have him on the list!
i rarely ever go law but honestly angels have some of the best designs in the series
Awesome video! Happy New Year SMT fans!!!
This is the perfect vid to prepare New Years dinner with. Thank Tony keep up the great work!
Did not expect an hour long Tony4You upload
And this is perfect, exactly the kinda thing I wanna watch while waiting for a flight
Dude this video is next level. Literally haha. Thanks for putting the time and effort into it. Much respect ✊
Wow! Powerful enough to shatter glass? That's crazy! I can shatter glass by accident just by dropping it. Am I an angel?
Who knows? You may just be.
DAMN TONY YOU DROPPING BARS! YHVH BLESS YOU, YOU DANK BOI OF EL!
*"BE NOT AFRAID"* if i saw a angel irl id run and piss myself with terror!
Your voice is very comfortable and your explanations detailed yet consice as well as specifying the texts you source from, which is good because God knows people online will say stuff and the only source is "trust me :)"
Of course, translations can differ greatly, but you at least specify which text, thank you!
Let me know what you think of the angels with any suggestions here!
Wow, you got sponsored by Atlus, great job? I never knew that besides making JRPGS, they also make VPNS, but hey, I want to summon demons and research their summoning conditions privately, so a VPN may come in handy. One question: does it also offer better deals for the demon auction?
I adore Virtues. But my favorite angel in smt is one that only appeared once or twice and you didn't mention. Haniel, the angel of joy and victory. She's wonderful.
Also can we talk about how Koneko completely nailed the design of Angel in SMT I? The bondage gear is fine, but the original design is beautiful .
apparently Aniel is Haniel.
The first angel design is pretty cool, I dig it. But I'm sorry, that angel design in SMT V is peak.
@@jessielsanchez5079 The gay golden puppet mask? The symbolism is too fucking obvious. No thanks.
@@mannysmith5397 Which is why it makes it good.
God bless you very cool video and kinda want to look deeper into angelology
Thank you so much for making this amazing video i highly appreciate it. ❤️
Always happy to talk about religion!
Hour long tony videos for me? Nice
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Great stuff!! Happy New Year to you, Tony! Keep up these excellent breakdowns!
throne's design actually reminds me of the story of Ixion, a greek king who flirted with Zeus's wife Hera. as punishment Ixion was tied to a wheel on fire and flung across the stars never dying in eternal flame and agony.
I though that Metatron had that appereance as a pun for Metatron. Just like why mara looks like that.
I am sure the Trumpeter really enjoyed their time playing the final boss theme in SMT IV against YHVH and Stephen. Those trumpets really stood out.
"Oh, and uh... Spoilers ahead."
🤦♂️😂 instant sub.
From i can remember i only care about lesser mytological creatures and myths more attached to popular supersticions. But two years ago, and seven after discovering smt, i became interested in angels and the sacred texts, in a same way the other myths and religions. And a year ago i discovered ur channel and became more interested in it, and thanks to ya i begined to aprecciate the law routes and angels.
Maybe too short of a text to pull all words i want or can say but i dont want to make a new bible of this x)
And of course u do awesome videos needless to say.
It's funny how persona is the thing that taught me about actual Judeo-Christian lore. Considering I live in a fairly religious society
to be fair, a good deal of it isn't entirely accurate.
@christopherbravo1813 think they ment how the games make him look up the information, I'm kinda the same way, will never touch a Bible but I'll watch these
@@rawrdino7046 i never looked it up. just stumbled upon it. i'm an atheist, so, i never really learned anything at all, properly, about christianity
Only just discovered this channel but I have to say I'm in love with your immaculate research and impartial observances on the natures and depictions of all these religious entities. The quotations especially are pleasing to the ear; I almost wish you'd do some audibooks of the Bible, mad as it sounds.
the reason metatron is potrayed as a robot is probably due to the association of "-tron"with machine,that and how meta kinda sounds like metal "metaltron" out of context does sound like a generic machine name
Mastema would have to be my favorite angel.
30:28 ah yes the story that tells how god´s ego made a poor guy lose everything. why? cuz the lucifer said "he aint loyal" and god was like "wanna bet bitch" .
In terms of design, Metatron and Dominons are my favorite.
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Thanks for the video
Happy to provide them!
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A hour Tony4you video! Oh Boy!
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When I saw the length, I thought you were going to talk about all the archangels because the four well known archangels aren't the only ones playing in smt
Came as soon as I saw the notification
I came too
True legend!
i came 3
This is freaking fascinating :O
how do I file a complaint to Sandolphon I think he messed up with me
Playing a SMT V angel run while listening to this
Outside of missing Sandalphon, great video
Great video
Truly, a glorious present.
thank you 4 this
17:13 I think the last design is supposed to show their blind devotion to god as they don't think for themselves or have a conscience but it's still a little bit weird
You didn't include Sandalphon or Merkabah?
weren't there more demons than just these guys? i couldve sworn there were a ton that didnt really fit into the heirarchy
angels *
There are more angels but this is the main canonical angels in the bible. Other angels will be covered at a later time
@@Tony4You oh, i look forward to it then! that said, did you do a video like this before? i could swear i saw an angelic hierarchy video from you
you really have to wonder, what it feels like joining megaten team, the new employee induction is like introducing you to a cult
Man, these primarch lore vids are really going off the rails
Why does SMT represent Lucifer as a Seraphim when in the Bible is said he was a Cherubim in Ezekiel 28
Because it's SMT has it's own lore, because it's a game and doesn't have to 100% accurate and exactly like Bible, because it's different, hell there are a couple of different versions of Christianity and they're a bit different with each other (one example is that in one version if you commit self deletion you go to hell but in another you don't). Honestly I can keep going but that's a game made for JRPG gamers, not for churches and preaching, it's only natural to be different, take marvel for example, Odin, Thor and Loki are NOTHING alike their mythological counterparts but the pagans don't complain about it.
WTF he didnt talk about sexy armpit angel
I think Guillermo Del Toro plays SMT games, based on those things in the new Pinocchio movie.
lmao, I think he just read Bible 🤣
This comment emanates the "Smt was so good that they created the Bible" energy
Damn didn’t know that AtlusVPN was an angel
Haha funny nocturne reference 37:20
They describe an angels feet as being those of a calf, but I don’t think people have seen a newborn calf’s hooves, they aren’t normal hooves, trypophobia warning if you go look it up
Bless you sir bless you
Lol watching this entire video w 0 context was interesting I mean I’ve def run out of things to watch on RUclips but I jus clicked on this assuming it was related to a certain shonen jump anime I forgot the name of but nice vid😂
Hey as long as you enjoyed the video, I'm happy! Thanks for stopping by
@@Tony4You oh wow, you’re welcome bro
Michael is such an icon fr
"im" (pronounced "eem", not "im") is plural in Hebrew. It's not "a Seraphim", "a Cherubim", etc.
It's "A Seraph", "A Cherub", etc.
Grigori Rasputin from Devil summoner Raidou
I usually rep Law in most SMT games but easily my favourite ending would have been in Devil Survivor Reclocked
Oh I just assumed he was depicted as a robot because his name ends in tron probably a play on words.
what is camael? In smt 5 iirc he was called an archangel but he isn't really like the other named archangels
I plan to cover the "lesser known" angels in another separate video
Make card games of these
i desire you to make videos on all smt deities demons angels gods absolutely all of them, please
So much religion I’m struggling to finish video but I must. I left a like though.
Its kinda funny that God (kinda) said "bastard" unironically