On December 30th my AD called and told me they had my 36mm Datejust in and I should come and collect it. So I did. It looks as though my new watch is just like yours Ash apart from the clasp of the Jubilee bracelet. It took approximately 3 months from the day I expressed my interest in this watch to the time I got "the call". I am very pleased with this purchase, and with my AD.
The Oyster Perpetual (no date) is the oldest model in the Rolex catalogue by some margin. It was introduced in 1931 and although it had many size and dial variations the essential DNA of the watch has remained the same. BTW, in early Datejust models the date did gradually change rather than snap into place at midnight. The key thing was the change of date was linked to the watch mechanism. The Datejust was the first watch with a date window where the date automatically changed.
Another great video. Having spent all of my teenage years during the 1980s it wasn't just Miami Vice and the original Bond heroes Rodger Moore and Sean Connery, but also Magnum PI and Clint Eastwood. Cheers!
Honestly i did the same thing in the last year. Sold most of my collection and bought an aqua terra small seconds, fully stickered in sales for £3700. I got it on bracelet and have a rubber strap too for summer and couldnt be happier. For ages i wanted an air king or explorer but the hype has taken the shine off rolex for me. Cut back the hype of Rolex and i found Omega suits the engineer in me far better.
Ash, If you had one watch, and it was the classic datejust, fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet variant, would you choose a black or blue dial? I ask this knowing you love your blue dial variation, but if you had to choose one watch only for your collection, and it being a classic datejust, would you opt for a black dial over blue dial for versatility? Thanks Kindly, Mullard
Not to mention the waitlist should'nt be that long as well! I was on the list for 3 months for a fluted/jubilee black dial 36, got the call for a blue dial in the same config and took it. Couldnt be happier.
“A very intelligent man…” you flatter me sir🤣. Only if the viewers knew what I was giving up. Thank you Ash! The deal is done and I’m just waiting on the call. You’ll be able to see the watch on the 1916 channel I’m assuming(they actually just had the black dial one on yesterday). I’ve come to see this decision as simply going back to my roots. I’m finally able to obtain the watches I’ve wanted since before Covid and the Rolex bandwagon. Now that I think about it, the whole Covid watch RUclips Rolex thing was just entertainment for me. It just got me through till recently and what it did to others hasn’t happened to me. Going back to a simple, well worn and greatly appreciated collection is my version of time travel. I’m going back to the “normal” days of my horological interests. I day dream of the day some Rolex hater stands before me telling me every reason Rolex sucks and all I do is smile and laugh to myself. Thanks again my man👊 PS I’m really looking forward to seeing a re-waxing video for your jacket.… In 10 years. Thing is so bad ass
I love my Datejusts and will always encourage someone to pull the trigger on a vintage one. I have 3 1601’s including a Bamboo bezel variant from 1960 and wear them on their bracelets and on leather straps. The Datejust 41 is not for me as it’s so big, larger than a 5 digit Submariner. I’d encourage anyone to get a 5 digit Datejust so you get quickset date and see how you like it before pulling the trigger and spending close to double on a brand new one.
Contrary to the popular, my favorite Datejusts are the two tone 36mm. Such a classic. I believe people will regret not going for those. A lot of the two tone datejusts go for the same dollar amount as steel on secondary. Hopefully I can get one soon!
My first Rolex was bought for the wife. A 41 white dial on oyster bracelet. She likes bigger watches. I then picked up a green mint dial on oyster bracelet smooth bezel. I just passed it on to my son after waiting 10 months for the AD call for my submariner Starbucks
I don’t know Ash, I see used Rolexes everywhere for sale, with discount, sitting unsold for months on. I fear maybe the market is not the best for selling a Rolly, maybe buying 2nd hand, but many people have reservations about buying from the secondary market I don’t know why, always good to let someone else take the hit of retail price IMO.
Lovely timepiece Ash, but for me probably a little too aspirational. However, I am attracted to the Oyster Perpetual no date. I do think that there are less ostentatious manufacturers such as Longines, Cuervo Y Sobrinos, Omega and Tudor. Even Christopher Ward has models which can compare very well for less money.
Pete … excellent Rolex pairing: Submariner and Datejust. Since the Sub comes on an oyster bracelet I would go with the Jubilee for the Datejust. Enjoy.
Oh no, Ash. I’m reluctant to actually watch this one! I love my 1990 Submariner 16610 I bought in Japan more than a few moons ago, but your endorsement may very-well encourage me to trade mine in for a Datejust. I proceed with caution! 😆
They are very nice looking watches but IMHO, at 41mm, can only be carried off by a few people. I used to work with a guy who would be able to do so. He was the same height as me (6'4'') but had massive wrists. I would sadly not suit anything above 38mm due to my terminally skinny wrists. I am honest enough to know that 35 or 36mm is my sweet spot.
Still working towards getting one, in a moment of silliness I ask the Rolex salesperson since Rolex is owned by a non profit trust could I write the purchase off as a charitable donation 😊
Very odd that "41" is actually 39.5mm I believe... confusing...p.s. I prefer the classic 36mm size for these watches. They're very shiny and blingy, and 36mm just looks less gaudy
Good video but I'll stick with my Oris/Christopher Ward/Citizen collection. The servicing costs at Rolex seem excessive. Today's watch excitement here? Arrival of a replacement watch-strap, costing £7.99.
Nothing wrong with a datejust.. personally on jubilee and flutted bezel.. there slim silky elegant class good movement 70 hr power reserve beautiful dials come in two-tone or diamond dials.. factory set diamond 💎 dial etc beautiful time pieces.. 🎉 a lot of people dis rolex simply because they can't get1 😂😢🎉👍🆒️💯🤣💰📞💎🍾🤣
I think The DateJust is the eponymous Rolex, with the so called cyclops dial. It's a design classic. My grandfather had a Prince, which alack I didn't inherit.
@@whereRbearsTeeth hmmm not sure about that. plenty of people complaining of 32XX movement issues. Any mass produced watch will have some QC issues but i wouldnt say they are the most robust or reliable. the Coaxial from Omega has less issues and a longer service interval in my experience.
Honestly…. All I read is Rolex this and Rolex that… Rolex, Rolex, Rolex. Too common for me im afraid. . We’re going to buy Cartier. For me it has a more elegant look and feel.
I read somewhere that inflation-adjusted price of Rolex in 1950s in modern money would be around $1500. So, I tend to think that anything more than that price would not add much value, hence for me this is a reasonable price for a decent watch.
@johnnysilverhand1733I disagree. Most modern mechanical watch movements are actually very reliable and can be very accurate. The problem is it isn't economic for watch companies to take the time to regulate inexpensive watches to high accuracy. Seiko, for example, always quote awful accuracy for their sub £1,500 watches but it's common to find they actually run to within + /- ten seconds a day and can be regulated to even greater accuracy. Of course, if we're really focused on accuracy, our connected divices are for all practical purposes totally accurate
many grow up and watch maiami vice , but not many have go buy a ferrary , and good luck getting your money back ,, when not many will give that money to a random dude , and if you go to a shop will give you 2or 3 k
a lot of truth in this. when ive saved hard earned money to buy a luxury item i dont want to be told by a sales assistant that sorry you cant buy what you want, i want a company that values my custom whether it be an official boutique or AD
Ash, I’m surprised a man of your taste and being a connoisseur of many things whom I greatly admire and respect, chooses Rolex? It’s an overpriced brand for people who know little about watches. I’d expect you to be a VC man, or JAEGER-LECOULTRE or another classy horology brand rather than a fashion brand, which Rolex is bordering.
Only the potential buyer will determine the value of any preowned watch. If it is a scarce and desirable model, then the price will fit the market and it all comes down to desirability, supply and demand.
In terms of value retention, modern DJ in good condition with box/papers etc, in my opinion, will always be £5k + and that's reassuring compared to the hype models of course if you are happy with DJ. I'm an older guy and I've moved on wearing two tone but I still have my SS 126200.
@ since the late 80s rolex have been worth at least 40/50% of their rrp. Thats proven by the pawn shops in Hk paying that value. My dj 16014 1980 was £950 back then and today its worth prob 3500/4500 as the condition of the steel is like new, just the dial has aged
I use the GMT complication on my watches constantly at work. Maybe don’t just assume we all have the same use cases as you do. Very narrow-minded assessments overall.
On December 30th my AD called and told me they had my 36mm Datejust in and I should come and collect it. So I did. It looks as though my new watch is just like yours Ash apart from the clasp of the Jubilee bracelet. It took approximately 3 months from the day I expressed my interest in this watch to the time I got "the call". I am very pleased with this purchase, and with my AD.
The Oyster Perpetual (no date) is the oldest model in the Rolex catalogue by some margin.
It was introduced in 1931 and although it had many size and dial variations the essential DNA of the watch has remained the same.
BTW, in early Datejust models the date did gradually change rather than snap into place at midnight. The key thing was the change of date was linked to the watch mechanism. The Datejust was the first watch with a date window where the date automatically changed.
The DJ only works in 36 mm, as it was originally designed to be. The proportions are completely off on the 41.
Beat me too it, the larger watch boat has sailed.
Another great video. Having spent all of my teenage years during the 1980s it wasn't just Miami Vice and the original Bond heroes Rodger Moore and Sean Connery, but also Magnum PI and Clint Eastwood. Cheers!
Honestly i did the same thing in the last year. Sold most of my collection and bought an aqua terra small seconds, fully stickered in sales for £3700. I got it on bracelet and have a rubber strap too for summer and couldnt be happier. For ages i wanted an air king or explorer but the hype has taken the shine off rolex for me. Cut back the hype of Rolex and i found Omega suits the engineer in me far better.
Thelma wants to know when she can have her jumper back! 😉💕
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It’s actually Velma. A female character from Scooby Doo and she wears the exact same colour and style of jumper.
I just bought a 1959 datejust ref 6605 from the us, had to pay 20% duty, but happy with the watch, and the price
I have it 41mm but with the smooth bezel, love it.
Ash,
If you had one watch, and it was the classic datejust, fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet variant, would you choose a black or blue dial?
I ask this knowing you love your blue dial variation, but if you had to choose one watch only for your collection, and it being a classic datejust, would you opt for a black dial over blue dial for versatility?
Thanks Kindly,
Mullard
For me nit would be a blue dial. Blue is my favourite colour!
I would choose neither. I would choose a white dial or maybe a silver. Neither blue or black are really versatile.
Not to mention the waitlist should'nt be that long as well! I was on the list for 3 months for a fluted/jubilee black dial 36, got the call for a blue dial in the same config and took it. Couldnt be happier.
Yes, that exact DateJust. I have requested that particular watch from my AD. I have tried it on and it is stunning on the wrist.
Good on you, Ash. Love my Rolex DJ 41 in blue too. 👏🏻☘️
This is the only place in the UK where you can leave a Rolex on the table outside.
Just picked that very watch up on Saturday from the AD. It is a lovely piece and will be my go to watch in my collection.
How long did you wait?
“A very intelligent man…” you flatter me sir🤣. Only if the viewers knew what I was giving up.
Thank you Ash! The deal is done and I’m just waiting on the call. You’ll be able to see the watch on the 1916 channel I’m assuming(they actually just had the black dial one on yesterday). I’ve come to see this decision as simply going back to my roots. I’m finally able to obtain the watches I’ve wanted since before Covid and the Rolex bandwagon. Now that I think about it, the whole Covid watch RUclips Rolex thing was just entertainment for me. It just got me through till recently and what it did to others hasn’t happened to me. Going back to a simple, well worn and greatly appreciated collection is my version of time travel. I’m going back to the “normal” days of my horological interests. I day dream of the day some Rolex hater stands before me telling me every reason Rolex sucks and all I do is smile and laugh to myself.
Thanks again my man👊
PS
I’m really looking forward to seeing a re-waxing video for your jacket.… In 10 years. Thing is so bad ass
So funny the timing on this. I'm thinking of selling mine to get an Explorer lol. Want something more under the radar. Great content.
Is your current DJ on Oyster or Jubilee?
I love my Datejusts and will always encourage someone to pull the trigger on a vintage one. I have 3 1601’s including a Bamboo bezel variant from 1960 and wear them on their bracelets and on leather straps. The Datejust 41 is not for me as it’s so big, larger than a 5 digit Submariner. I’d encourage anyone to get a 5 digit Datejust so you get quickset date and see how you like it before pulling the trigger and spending close to double on a brand new one.
Contrary to the popular, my favorite Datejusts are the two tone 36mm. Such a classic. I believe people will regret not going for those. A lot of the two tone datejusts go for the same dollar amount as steel on secondary. Hopefully I can get one soon!
If I were Pete I would pause this video to get a Datejust and resume after wearing it 😎, you sold it too good and now I want one 😶
A great idea 👊
My first Rolex was bought for the wife. A 41 white dial on oyster bracelet. She likes bigger watches. I then picked up a green mint dial on oyster bracelet smooth bezel. I just passed it on to my son after waiting 10 months for the AD call for my submariner Starbucks
I don’t know Ash, I see used Rolexes everywhere for sale, with discount, sitting unsold for months on. I fear maybe the market is not the best for selling a Rolly, maybe buying 2nd hand, but many people have reservations about buying from the secondary market I don’t know why, always good to let someone else take the hit of retail price IMO.
Lovely timepiece Ash, but for me probably a little too aspirational. However, I am attracted to the Oyster Perpetual no date. I do think that there are less ostentatious manufacturers such as Longines, Cuervo Y Sobrinos, Omega and Tudor. Even Christopher Ward has models which can compare very well for less money.
Datejust with smooth bezel, oyster bracelet, and dark rhodium face would be a great GADA watch.
You should’ve told him to get the CWC G22 watch, like you told the other chap. lol
Pete … excellent Rolex pairing: Submariner and Datejust. Since the Sub comes on an oyster bracelet I would go with the Jubilee for the Datejust. Enjoy.
It’ll be matched with my 2tone SeaDweller 💪
Oh no, Ash. I’m reluctant to actually watch this one! I love my 1990 Submariner 16610 I bought in Japan more than a few moons ago, but your endorsement may very-well encourage me to trade mine in for a Datejust. I proceed with caution! 😆
One reason not to - CWC G10 for £300.... loving my "new" 1990s navy issued. Perfect daily watch
They are very nice looking watches but IMHO, at 41mm, can only be carried off by a few people.
I used to work with a guy who would be able to do so. He was the same height as me (6'4'') but had massive wrists.
I would sadly not suit anything above 38mm due to my terminally skinny wrists. I am honest enough to know that 35 or 36mm is my sweet spot.
Still working towards getting one, in a moment of silliness I ask the Rolex salesperson since Rolex is owned by a non profit trust could I write the purchase off as a charitable donation 😊
Very odd that "41" is actually 39.5mm I believe... confusing...p.s. I prefer the classic 36mm size for these watches. They're very shiny and blingy, and 36mm just looks less gaudy
Good video but I'll stick with my Oris/Christopher Ward/Citizen collection. The servicing costs at Rolex seem excessive.
Today's watch excitement here? Arrival of a replacement watch-strap, costing £7.99.
😂
I get Rolex's chronological importance but as watches they leave me cold. My heart rate does not alter one beat if I see one. Each to their own.
Nothing wrong with a datejust.. personally on jubilee and flutted bezel.. there slim silky elegant class good movement 70 hr power reserve beautiful dials come in two-tone or diamond dials.. factory set diamond 💎 dial etc beautiful time pieces.. 🎉 a lot of people dis rolex simply because they can't get1 😂😢🎉👍🆒️💯🤣💰📞💎🍾🤣
Better Tudor 1926 - beautiful dress watch with good price
I think The DateJust is the eponymous Rolex, with the so called cyclops dial. It's a design classic.
My grandfather had a Prince, which alack I didn't inherit.
If you have no style, choose the Datejust in the 41mm style
Oh no! Even MORE talk about watches? :)
Overhyped and overpriced. Rolex are mass produced watches and the bubble seems to have burst. Sadly now also dangerous to wear in some places.
They make the most robust and reliable tool watches in the world. That hasn’t changed.
@@whereRbearsTeeth hmmm not sure about that. plenty of people complaining of 32XX movement issues. Any mass produced watch will have some QC issues but i wouldnt say they are the most robust or reliable. the Coaxial from Omega has less issues and a longer service interval in my experience.
I used to buy them back in the 80's and 90's when they were value for money, sadly that's no longer the case!
How? You can't get one!
Honestly…. All I read is Rolex this and Rolex that… Rolex, Rolex, Rolex. Too common for me im afraid. . We’re going to buy Cartier. For me it has a more elegant look and feel.
All i hear is cartier this cartier that…i’m sticking with my Nomos, it has elegant look and feel.
@ lol.. jealous id say. That’s ok… give you something to aim for. I wont spend a penny over $25k . 🤣
@@Kennybooy9 why would someone be jealous of a RUclips comment? 😂
I wouldn’t bother with either, everyone will think that they’re fake anyway.
@@Kennybooy9 i’m so jealous of someone who dreams to spend 25k on a Cartier to look uncommon!
Ok …if you’re loaded..
Sadly, I am a pensioner and cannot afford a Rolex.
Sounds like a challenge for Ash: to find an all-rounder watch, stylish enough for a chap, for less than £150.
I read somewhere that inflation-adjusted price of Rolex in 1950s in modern money would be around $1500. So, I tend to think that anything more than that price would not add much value, hence for me this is a reasonable price for a decent watch.
There's no decent mechanical for that price new. They will all have shitty movements with trash accuracy.
If only the math was that simple
@johnnysilverhand1733I disagree. Most modern mechanical watch movements are actually very reliable and can be very accurate. The problem is it isn't economic for watch companies to take the time to regulate inexpensive watches to high accuracy.
Seiko, for example, always quote awful accuracy for their sub £1,500 watches but it's common to find they actually run to within + /- ten seconds a day and can be regulated to even greater accuracy.
Of course, if we're really focused on accuracy, our connected divices are for all practical purposes totally accurate
Clueless comment
many grow up and watch maiami vice , but not many have go buy a ferrary , and good luck getting your money back ,, when not many will give that money to a random dude , and if you go to a shop will give you 2or 3 k
I’m not going to be watch-blocked by a retail worker who can’t even afford to buy a Rolex. I’ve moved on.
You sound bitter and jealous.
@ of course. And now I’ve moved on. Hello Omega!
@saulgood2366 Omega is a compromise brand.
@@whereRbearsTeeth- Don’t see where you get “jealous “ . He moved on to an equally expensive brand.
a lot of truth in this. when ive saved hard earned money to buy a luxury item i dont want to be told by a sales assistant that sorry you cant buy what you want, i want a company that values my custom whether it be an official boutique or AD
These are not worth 10k
No need to pay £10k you can get these for about £5 - 7k easy.
Ash, I’m surprised a man of your taste and being a connoisseur of many things whom I greatly admire and respect, chooses Rolex? It’s an overpriced brand for people who know little about watches. I’d expect you to be a VC man, or JAEGER-LECOULTRE or another classy horology brand rather than a fashion brand, which Rolex is bordering.
At least the DJ is worth at least 50% of its value in the future
Only the potential buyer will determine the value of any preowned watch. If it is a scarce and desirable model, then the price will fit the market and it all comes down to desirability, supply and demand.
In terms of value retention, modern DJ in good condition with box/papers etc, in my opinion, will always be £5k + and that's reassuring compared to the hype models of course if you are happy with DJ. I'm an older guy and I've moved on wearing two tone but I still have my SS 126200.
@ i have my dj 16014 1980, plexiglass, t25 linen dial, serviced 3 times so far. Bought at watches of switz in Leicester Sq. It goes on 4ever
@ since the late 80s rolex have been worth at least 40/50% of their rrp. Thats proven by the pawn shops in Hk paying that value. My dj 16014 1980 was £950 back then and today its worth prob 3500/4500 as the condition of the steel is like new, just the dial has aged
I use the GMT complication on my watches constantly at work. Maybe don’t just assume we all have the same use cases as you do. Very narrow-minded assessments overall.
Calm down, Karen.
Covid era called. Rolex is so passe.
A bit jealous?
@@whereRbearsTeeth Google 32xx poll and data thread 🤣
@ no thanks