A FLAMING DISASTER! - Knuckles (2024) Retrospective

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025

Комментарии • 231

  • @jackskirata4819
    @jackskirata4819 Месяц назад +83

    It wouldn’t be a Knuckles solo series without a holocaust analogy.
    It’s so weird that it happened twice. (See Archie for the first instance)

    • @aeon87
      @aeon87 Месяц назад +18

      Technically 3. The knuckles IDW comic was more focused on Trip so it was a nice story for her.

    • @Bobb11881
      @Bobb11881 Месяц назад +1

      She wasn't talking about the Holocaust, geez.

    • @aeon87
      @aeon87 Месяц назад +3

      @Bobb11881
      Knuckles: Listen, kid. I know what it's like. To be on your own with your solemn, lonely duty. To be left to protect what's left of your lost people's legacy. It's a heavy burden.
      Trip:.... but I'm not, though? Wanna meet everyone?
      I may be reading too deep into it, but Knuckles was implying to Trip that HER people were wiped out.

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink Месяц назад +1

      I bet Pen claimed about someone "stealing his idea" again.

  • @blargojargin
    @blargojargin Месяц назад +70

    just putting it out there now, i absolutely love the current intro song, i know it was changed for budgetary reasons but the substitute you have now is so nice. the logo timed with the song is such a punchy and fun way to start the video and its helped by the little rev at the beginning

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад +29

      Thanks! I'll send this over to my buddy Sam who composed it! This is the first time we've had a theme that was composed FOR the channel. I think this'll brighten his day.

    • @WigWoo1
      @WigWoo1 Месяц назад +7

      I know I love it too it sounds exactly like the intro of Britney Spears baby one more time

    • @Jemmy_867
      @Jemmy_867 Месяц назад +2

      I like it but having one that’s a solid theme for your channel and brand would be cool one day

    • @MikeSpruce
      @MikeSpruce Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ChannelPupWhat was the name of the one before?

    • @BrickFleetwood
      @BrickFleetwood Месяц назад +1

      I agree. Of all the intros, this is my favourite.

  • @Jorno_arts
    @Jorno_arts Месяц назад +16

    Interesting seeing the looping animations from pup's avatar getting gradually better with each video

  • @BritBox777
    @BritBox777 Месяц назад +22

    My headcanon for how Pachakama can act this way but still be his canon self, he's spent hundreds of years as a spirit regretting the evil acts he took in life. Hoping that by teaching others the same lessons his daughter Tikal once tried to teach him, lessons of friendship and empathy, he might one day deserve to see her again. That's why his mission for knuckles wasn't one of honor, but one of friendship.

  • @themoviegod4613
    @themoviegod4613 Месяц назад +22

    20:33 Crazy how you just fixed the entire show in like less than 3 minutes.

  • @Crusty783
    @Crusty783 Месяц назад +14

    9:50 Not sure I agree with this. The purpose of this episode was to have Knuckles interacting with human culture in a more indepth way, as a part of his arc of becoming more adapted to Earth

    • @SethLyons-wc3wd
      @SethLyons-wc3wd Месяц назад

      I would not binge this for Sonic 3. AT ALL

    • @Crusty783
      @Crusty783 Месяц назад +1

      @@SethLyons-wc3wd I wouldn't either because I dont think this show is very good

  • @blackprism5381
    @blackprism5381 Месяц назад +28

    Truly, honestly, I think what would’ve been better is an animated series going instead of the live action route and this could’ve been an opportunity to explore a little more on knuckles backstory on how he grew up and overtime became the the warrior he is now

    • @MonkeyboyST1
      @MonkeyboyST1 Месяц назад +6

      Holy shit, I never thought of that! That would’ve given the show more opportunities for bigger things. The fights could’ve been more epic and we could’ve gotten more characters, like Rouge or Espio.

  • @HdNinjaMsBrickStudio
    @HdNinjaMsBrickStudio Месяц назад +144

    Hot take: I really enjoyed the Knuckles show eventhough it could've been much better and focus more on Knuckles but it was,fun Wade's Mom was really cool I'm just glad they didn't introduce a million important stuff in this movie that's important for Sonic 3 to make it feel like homework

    • @2024thegoatyear
      @2024thegoatyear Месяц назад +6

      Same

    • @Destiny-Hybrid
      @Destiny-Hybrid Месяц назад +6

      Same, I agree.

    • @shockhedgehog4771
      @shockhedgehog4771 Месяц назад +2

      Based

    • @nickchavez720
      @nickchavez720 Месяц назад +8

      All things considered I give it a solid 7. They took Wade, a character I didn't really care about and made me empathize with him. Also the sequence with the puppets was funny as hell.

    • @47northm
      @47northm Месяц назад +2

      Same!

  • @julz_dzd
    @julz_dzd Месяц назад +25

    Ok but you gotta admit the bowling tournament being broadcasted on ESPN 8 the Ocho from Dodgeball is one of the funniest things to come out of the sonic movie universe

    • @thefitnerd5116
      @thefitnerd5116 Месяц назад +1

      Does that make Dodgeball canon??? 🤯🤯🤯😂

    • @julz_dzd
      @julz_dzd Месяц назад +1

      @ hell yeah. Vince Vaughn and Knuckles are about to get their own spin off

    • @ClydeJHatbird
      @ClydeJHatbird Месяц назад +2

      If I recall correctly, Dodgeball willed that into existence. It was a parody, but some exec saw that and thought, "wait, why don't we have a channel for obscure sports?"

    • @Planag7
      @Planag7 Месяц назад

      ​@@ClydeJHatbirdbroadcast some interesting sports, so it's a good thing right now

    • @Planag7
      @Planag7 Месяц назад

      Also puppy really needs to look up some translations. Ocho means 8 in Spanish lol

  • @LeonardoKlotz
    @LeonardoKlotz Месяц назад +30

    The climatic bowling alley could've been better if it had been more videogame-themed
    There was Wade's musical, where he was dressed as Knuckles and was "playing" the games
    They could've done something similar too

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia Месяц назад +1

      The definition of missed opportunity.

  • @mediamuncher69
    @mediamuncher69 Месяц назад +14

    🗣🔥🔥🔥 I WILL FIND THE FLAMES OF DISASTER!

  • @Sonicjohnathon
    @Sonicjohnathon Месяц назад +26

    The fact that people say that CGI is too expensive as a defence for this show I argue either A make it fully animated or B don't make the show at all.

    • @RayMcElroy50
      @RayMcElroy50 Месяц назад +7

      Considering that the first two episodes were directed by VFX artists, I think they did a great job with what they had

    • @Rishi123456789
      @Rishi123456789 Месяц назад +11

      >The fact that people say that CGI is too expensive as a defence for this show I argue either A make it fully animated or B don't make the show at all.
      Based, I can't stand the bullshit about expensive CGI. The Paramount Sonic movies/shows should've been animated all along so that Paramount has no excuse to cheap out.

    • @FlipSide2025
      @FlipSide2025 Месяц назад +3

      B is what I've been saying for the longest time @Sonicjohnathon ur based

    • @benraven9087
      @benraven9087 Месяц назад +4

      They couldn't possibly spend more money on the CGI. How would they afford to get Cary Elwes, Christopher Lloyd, and all the licensed 80s pop music? Get your priorities straight. 🙄

    • @FlipSide2025
      @FlipSide2025 Месяц назад +3

      @@benraven9087 if they couldn't, like what he said, atp don't make the show

  • @Crusty783
    @Crusty783 Месяц назад +5

    23:15 Exactly my take. This show gets barely anything right but I just find it so hard to completely hate it. There's an occasional really endearing nugget thrown in there

  • @aeon87
    @aeon87 Месяц назад +8

    I like Wade as much as I like Sheen and Patrick, in small doses. I did like his mom a lot, though. She and Knuckles had a good dynamic. The first episode was written by Jeff Fowler, so it's the best. I wish he wrote all of it but as it stands, I still give it an 8/10.

  • @The-e8p
    @The-e8p Месяц назад +11

    I really don't understand why they made Pachacamac a good guy when he KILLED SONIC'S MOTHER. If they needed a ghostly mentor for Knuckles, Tikal was right there.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад +4

      Agreed completely.

    • @Planag7
      @Planag7 Месяц назад

      I don't think that was him though

    • @barozukos7791
      @barozukos7791 Месяц назад +1

      I don't think Pachacamac was around for that, pretty sure he was still the chief from centuries ago

    • @Gerik75
      @Gerik75 Месяц назад

      But if it was Tikal, it would be very difficult to be voiced by Christopher Lloyd.

  • @Thunderdransword
    @Thunderdransword Месяц назад +2

    2:43 I remember the og plot that was leaked that in ep 1 rouge the bat would’ve appeared and steal the master emerald

  • @roylandscottness
    @roylandscottness Месяц назад +2

    Your point about responding to insecurity and defensiveness is so crucial. Thank you for being vulnerable for us, Pup! Can't be easy, I'm sure 💜

  • @Tiquono
    @Tiquono Месяц назад +2

    "I wish my Dad left ME in a TJ Maxx" is one of the craziest things ever said and it's in a SONIC SERIES 💀
    I wish we could've gotten more Knuckles but I also did really feel for Wade Whipple. Knuckles was kinda funny but he needed more to do. I also found this series funnier than the movies because Sonic wasn't there lol.

  • @STKMRProductions
    @STKMRProductions Месяц назад +4

    I genuinely loved knuckles I thought it was ok it’s a nice continuation of the universe but my only gripe is how much screen time knuckles gets but I think the show is awesome I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the Flames of Disaster song and the part when Knuckles uses the Flames of Disaster it’s just so cool

  • @harvjavivr
    @harvjavivr Месяц назад +1

    I can vouch I took a massive edible and watched this show and had the time of my life LMAO

  • @supersaiyanfox9190
    @supersaiyanfox9190 Месяц назад +13

    Doug Walker (Nostalgia Critic) and some of his fans called Sonic movie 1 the equivalent of Hop or Smurfs. I heavily disagree with that argument, especially because of the Knuckles TV show. This show is like Hop or Smurfs.

    • @deedoubs
      @deedoubs Месяц назад +2

      The first movie was pretty trash tbh. It was 80% stolen jokes, 20% genuinely interesting stuff. Movie 2 upped the quality by a good bit and felt less derivative over all... and then this is complete garbage. It's remarkable how little Jewish stereotypes add to Sonic.

    • @supersaiyanfox9190
      @supersaiyanfox9190 Месяц назад +5

      @ Wow you really didn’t get the first movie, not even close.

    • @deedoubs
      @deedoubs Месяц назад

      @@supersaiyanfox9190 I'm sorry to shit on your stolen Zoolander and super hero movie jokes.

    • @DamnZtar
      @DamnZtar Месяц назад

      @@deedoubsthey fixed Sonic’s design tho

    • @deedoubs
      @deedoubs Месяц назад

      @@DamnZtar They did do that, but the writing and premise are just not great.

  • @LeafyLeafers
    @LeafyLeafers Месяц назад +1

    I LOVED THE KNUCKLES SHOW, i think the hate just spans from the fact it was marketed as a KNUCKLES show

  • @epicgobbleygourdfan
    @epicgobbleygourdfan Месяц назад +6

    0:48 ITS WHAT TIME???

    • @zcramblo
      @zcramblo 26 дней назад

      🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥

  • @StarMechV
    @StarMechV Месяц назад +1

    Personally I feel Pachacahmac was a wasted opportunity and could have been an interesting mirror of Pistol Pete, connecting Knuckles more to Wade's plight.
    I always found weird how the show keeps the legacy of the echidnas in such high esteem despite Sonic 2 showing us that things were much more morally gray. This specially feels weird when a big emotional point of the 2nd movie is Knuckles and Sonic bonding once realizing they are MORE than just the legacies they carry.
    Id have made it that as he witness Pistol Pete betraying everyone he has a mommt where he is met by the ghost of Pachacahmac once more who doesnt seem that interested beyondjust Knuckles seeking amother quest, for Knux to realize that similarly to Wade's relationship with his dad, Pachacamahac wasnt the greatest leader that Knuckles conjured in his mind.

  • @talonsofart
    @talonsofart 7 дней назад

    i’m so sad the devils lettuce heightens my anxiety tenfold because watching this high would literally be so peak

  • @Yume-AW
    @Yume-AW Месяц назад +2

    I liked it until like the 5th episode, then me and my dad forgot about it after that

  • @baguette995
    @baguette995 Месяц назад +1

    That was an awesome video!

  • @Jack_o3654
    @Jack_o3654 Месяц назад

    that movie 3 tease at the end. Sounds like we won't be disappointed

  • @damonhallyburton6424
    @damonhallyburton6424 Месяц назад +7

    A decent editor could probably make a decent hour and a half movie outta this. Cut as much of Wade's family as possible, maybe add any deleted scenes involving the bad guys.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад +5

      I have a 2 hour cut of it. 😂 I got curious. Still a lot of narrative dissonance but with less of the pacing issues.

    • @damonhallyburton6424
      @damonhallyburton6424 Месяц назад

      @ChannelPup Nice! I'm curious if there's any deleted scenes for it out there. Maybe they could make your cut of it a bit more coherent.

    • @AntolaRes
      @AntolaRes Месяц назад

      i would not watch a movie about this though

    • @damonhallyburton6424
      @damonhallyburton6424 Месяц назад

      @AntolaRes Fair.

  • @pablokpsctr
    @pablokpsctr Месяц назад +2

    Well Pup, I've been a Sonic fan for 28 years now and for the las 8 or so I've mainly consumed everything Sonic related really, really high. Regardless of quality.
    I guess that's just part of adulthood.

  • @PolipovsPopCulture
    @PolipovsPopCulture Месяц назад

    I am legit convinced that the reason this show turned out this way is because 1) They used an AI to write the script because actual writers going on strike last year (when the show would've been in production) hence why the plot is so disorganized and unfinished and 2) Adam Pally requested the show to be a personal project to boost his own acting resume (hence why he's the main character). Similar to how the reason the wedding scene in movie 2 exists is because Tika Sumpter (Maddie) and Natasha Rothschild (Rachel) requested more screen time from Jeff Fowler. At least the wedding scene only last 6 minutes tho...

  • @CHANIMATES
    @CHANIMATES Месяц назад +4

    I don't feel like doing this today 😮‍💨

  • @Arkus
    @Arkus Месяц назад

    I agree with the sweet moments between Knuckles and Wendy. Felt like he was finally starting to understand normal family times under the premise of being a guest, rather than being overloaded with it while living with Sonic and Maddie. While I was also dissapointed in this show (Wanda was wretched, and they could of had Knuckles be Wade's partner in the Bowling Tournement), I did kinda enjoyed seeing it as Knuckles' own journey to find enjoyment and appreciation for living in a place like Earth, by slowly being introduced to small moments.

  • @bathilra5364
    @bathilra5364 Месяц назад +2

    8:50 yeah thanks for that kenith penders

  • @SXMDUB
    @SXMDUB Месяц назад +1

    I couldn’t get past episode 2 of the Knuckles show. For any new series they make, I really hope they focus more on the Sonic characters and less on the humans

  • @takeshikujo2909
    @takeshikujo2909 Месяц назад

    Personally, I would have preferred a 3 or 4 episode mini-series that saves up enough budget to introduce Rouge who sneaks through the ring portal in ep. 1 and works with the rogue agents before choosing to do the right thing in the end and become a full-fledged G.U.N. agent, leading us into her cinematic debut to have the classic Dark Team from SA2. Also, for some reason, having Sam Elliot be a hermit that Knuckles and Wade meet along the way who helps with Wade’s physical and mental maturity while teaching Knuckles that men like them who are strong still find more purpose in sharing their lives with others and with what you don’t know than living only with yourself and knowing nothing but the same thing every single day, showing signs of regret and making sure the echidna does not end up like him.
    Maybe not that last one, since I’m sure that would defeat the “save the budget” thing since Sam Elliot would cost a pretty penny. For some reason, I just think it would be really cool to see Sam Elliot and Idris Elba Knuckles on the same screen.

  • @ryananthony2869
    @ryananthony2869 Месяц назад

    One thing that burned me with this show was the lack of any meaningful hints to Movie 3 outside of a small line about Shadow,even the lesser MCU projects had teases to the bigger movies and Paramount clearly wants Sonic to be their MCU and I think that they can do it with how rich the Sonic lore is.
    Knuckles probably isn't the worst show and ever there are still scenes I like including the Holding out for a Hero montage,the Shabbat dinners fight with the rotating camera,and the rock opera.One thing they should keep is for Michael Bolton to keep singing songs for them,imagine hearing a cover of Open Your Heart or His World from his angelic voice.
    All of the good stuff is just held back by all the mistakes we thought the first movie were gonna make and it made for many fans worried for Movie 3 and future projects,if they made them here then they will make them again and the only way they'll stop is if they know we don't want this and that it won't show what makes Sonic special.
    Movie Knuckles is my favorite interpretation of him honestly and it was such a shame he got shafted hard on this show,and I think Wade is actually one of the better human characters in not just the movies but Sonic in general.I've seen your edit of this show into a movie on your Bluesky and it's so much better with the addition of actual Sonic music and better pacing,if that rumored Shadow spinoff does happen,then they have to make it a movie and not a show,and have it play in theaters so they can afford Keanu again and expand more on the Sonic stuff,Shadow sells himself on his own so I'm sure it'll be a hit and be the best selling movie of the year it comes out.👍
    Lastly,the fact that Knuckles isn't even playing in the tournament was such a waste.
    P.S.If Sonic music isn't (apparently) appealing enough for general audiences,then why not have more popular artists make remixes of them?Sonic fans win because they get awesome remixes of their favorite game songs,general audiences win because they get to hear artists they know play these songs and get them curious to hear the originals,and Paramount wins because they can sell albums of the remixes.

  • @mstr293
    @mstr293 Месяц назад

    Knowing Jeff, Season 1 is a good lesson he’ll learn from. Expect Season 2 to be more epic.

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Месяц назад +2

    31:50 “The ocko"???😂 ITS OH CHO, Spanish mi boy

  • @IamLegendaryguy1998
    @IamLegendaryguy1998 Месяц назад

    The first flames of disaster was in sonic 06 with the Solaris project

  • @natoriousthehopeful2786
    @natoriousthehopeful2786 Месяц назад +2

    I know it wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but my mom and I actually enjoyed watching the knuckles show: the only part of it that we didn't like was Wade's sister, but other than that the show is a solid 7.5 out of 10 in our book

  • @harryfleutv666
    @harryfleutv666 Месяц назад +1

    This show definitely felt very rushed and we didn’t get much of a story from Knuckles which is a shame because he’s my favourite character in this franchise

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Месяц назад +1

    It’s a shame, but this was pretty much what knuckles got for his 30th anniversary.
    There’s also the IDW special, but again it’s a story where knuckles is taking someone under his wing, and his apprentice gets more of a spotlight than him on his own anniversary
    The only difference between the two is the comic is fairly short, and I think Trip is far more interesting than Wade

  • @thealvabro1852
    @thealvabro1852 Месяц назад +8

    0:47
    PHRASING!

  • @Megaman12Protoman14
    @Megaman12Protoman14 Месяц назад

    I decided to finally watch Knuckles since movie 3 is was close to release and finished it a few days ago. Knowing how much negative reception it got back dueing its release from Sonic fans definitely helped ease me into it and kept the disappointment from surfacing. I got to actually enjoy the more standout moments of the show that you praised here and since I had 0 expectations going in all the lackluster parts didn’t bother me. The backlash the show got is 100% deserved imo, and it's hard to even say that this just isn’t meant for adult Sonic fans since they aren’t the primary demographic. In my experience, I can't see any of the kids I know that really like Sonic finding the same level of enjoyment as they would from the movies proper. The shoe definitely suffers from an identity crisis because I don't think it really knows what it wanted to be, so in the end it just kind of doesn’t matter as the show progresses into the finale. I'd like it more of the main driving force was Knuckles finding a place with Wade and his family in a similar vein to Sonic and Tails with Tom and Maddie.

  • @KnucklesPunchess
    @KnucklesPunchess Месяц назад +2

    in my opinion, they needa give knuckles more respect in the movies! whenever he fights anything new he looses and then it just ends like that, he's a warrior he can take things

    • @derekhibbard9018
      @derekhibbard9018 Месяц назад

      It's the piccolo effect

    • @KnucklesPunchess
      @KnucklesPunchess Месяц назад

      @derekhibbard9018 what's a piccolo effect?

    • @derekhibbard9018
      @derekhibbard9018 Месяц назад

      @KnucklesPunchess piccolo from dbz. As in like, you have this character who everyone loves and is badass and super strong, but because of plot reasons they're basically never allowed to win a real fight because that's for the "main" character.

    • @KnucklesPunchess
      @KnucklesPunchess Месяц назад +1

      @@derekhibbard9018 ok i understand, yeah knuckles is powerful and can win and has the most potential to beating shadow or silver idk, he wouldn't win but it would be a close fight!

  • @salliemagnaye1403
    @salliemagnaye1403 Месяц назад +1

    The Buyer also used to work for Eggman, in the predecessor of GUN

  • @mediamuncher69
    @mediamuncher69 Месяц назад +3

    20:53 They should've made the knuckles show fully 3D animated to not worry about it.😂

  • @DanielKariuki-er5gi
    @DanielKariuki-er5gi Месяц назад

    In this Sonic movie franchise which VFX studio is your favorite? MPC (Moving Picture Company) or Industrial Light & Magic? I think Industrial Light & Magic looks a little better than MPC but MPC still did a great job on the first 2 movies.

  • @Sharkhunt
    @Sharkhunt Месяц назад

    I have no issue saying this show was ass and that I wish I could take my viewership back. It was very disappointing and failed to even deliver on what it said it was going to do. Great review though! 👍

  • @crosstrigger1
    @crosstrigger1 Месяц назад +2

    9:34 oof.

  • @RayMcElroy50
    @RayMcElroy50 Месяц назад +1

    I hope Brandon Trost gets to direct more movies
    If episode 3 and "An American Pickle" proved anything, is that he can be a solid director

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад

      Which Knuckles episode/s did he direct?

    • @RayMcElroy50
      @RayMcElroy50 Месяц назад

      ​@@ChannelPupEpisode 3
      The shabbat one

  • @sonic23233
    @sonic23233 Месяц назад +1

    Maybe if they got Ian Flynn to write the script, it might have been better

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад +1

      Personally I think the Boom writers would have nailed this premise.

    • @bluhathedg
      @bluhathedg Месяц назад

      “You’re rougher than the rest of them, Wade!”

    • @Sone01TheFirst
      @Sone01TheFirst Месяц назад

      A comic writer would not translate that well to a show format(No, he mainly wrote dialogue for the games, not the game stories themselves), movie writers seem to struggle hard enough when translating to a show format if the MCU is anything to go by.

  • @sonicjhiq
    @sonicjhiq Месяц назад

    I know this is bad and all but I do hope it's not forgotten about in the wider Sonic Cinematic Universe

  • @KelsonArwhi
    @KelsonArwhi Месяц назад

    All the money blown on licensed music and still no "Hard Times" despite a blatant Ice Cap reference?
    It not being played in the background of the second movie as Knuckles chased Sonic down the slopes was bad enough. This missed opportunity was unforgivable.
    That said, I enjoyed the show for what it is.

  • @DarkHeroesForever
    @DarkHeroesForever Месяц назад

    18:44 to 20:15 I hate it when RUclips contact creators can make up better stories than any execs in Hollywood these days.

  • @kenn_k
    @kenn_k Месяц назад +3

    23:19 oh THAT'S where he's from, i knew i recognized him
    26:37 lmao, i was losing hope but you didn't let me down

  • @ClydeJHatbird
    @ClydeJHatbird Месяц назад

    Okay, I'll say this. First off, you are correct. About nearly everything. Speaking as someone who legitimately enjoyed this show, there has to be a certain way you go about this. As a connective tissue with any sense of world building, this show fails miserably. The one and only thing it does right is it's comedy. I love absurdist and cartoony humor, and this puts it out in spades. If I could compare it to anything, it'd be somewhere between a Ben Stiller and Will Ferrel movie.
    You mentioned not binging this, however that's ironically exactly what I did. I told myself I just start with one or two episodes, but ended up in for the long haul. Each episode had something in that made my have to pause and just laugh for about 5 minutes straight.
    Unfortunately, to get that level of enjoyment out of this, you do have to disconnect. As I watched past episode one, I could tell almost immediately that two things were going to happen:
    1: EVERYBODY is going to hate this show. While Knuckles isn't treated like a clown, this story takes place in clown world. It's way more cartoony in tone compared to the movies. Thing is, I kinda liked that. I felt the insane visual gags gave this universe a bit more of an identity.
    2: Knuckles is barely going to be relevant to the plot. Yeah, it's the Wade Wipple show, through and through. Now, I actually did enjoy a lot of the extraneous characters, like the sister and the bounty hunter. However, a better story could be told, hell you mapped it out beautifully in your redo.
    I say this as a long time Sonic fan of the 90s, with Knuckles being my favorite character of the series: I don't think this show is hot garbage and can be enjoyed. However, you have to be aware of what it is and not expect the world from it. It's not a slap in the face to Sonic enjoyers or anything like that, it's just a dumb show that some writers went nuts on, forgetting to ground it to the rest of the series.
    Of course, if you hate it, that's fine too. As I said, I knew almost instantly that people were not going to like this. The only thing that kept me hooked was the comedy.

  • @don_hato
    @don_hato Месяц назад +1

    They should've called this show Wade & Knuckles

  • @LemonConsumption
    @LemonConsumption Месяц назад

    Wanna know something sad? Since this is a tv series and not a movie that’s all about wade, that means wade has the most total screen time out of any character in the sonic movie universe

  • @proceededspy1370
    @proceededspy1370 Месяц назад

    The disconnet with something you want to like but don't and see it being reveived well, pretty much sums up what i feel towards the Sonic gens remake.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад

      I'd imagine that stings. I'm curious as to your thoughts!

    • @proceededspy1370
      @proceededspy1370 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelPup Short answear I just don't like re-writes, i want the past to stay corney and cringy. And i have a 0-tolerance for censorship.
      Long answear.
      I feel Amy had her character completely re-writen and Rouge just gives me the same whiplash from hearing some of the journalists give Balder's Gate 3 high praise for realistic dong physics but at the same time turning around and saying Eve from Stellar Blade sould cover up. They covered up Rouge's back, when she has wings, but gave the Black arms soldiers the most detailed butt i have seen in the game part of this franchise. all that is missing is a dong😵‍💫(basically the modern thing around female characters that actually makes me as a woman feel very unwelcome in todays day and age, and when it is in a game franchise with characters i have loved for over 20 years it hurts.)
      And for the rest of the re-writes my feeling are, "Well for a game all about nostalgia they sure as heck gave no fudge about crapping all over its past self🤗" .
      This has not given me any faith for future remakes.

    • @proceededspy1370
      @proceededspy1370 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelPup i tried to answear but it seems to have been deleted so i'll try again, Short answear. i don't like re-writes, i want the past to be corny and cringy and i have 0-tolerance for censorships.
      Long answear.
      I feel Amy had her character completely re-writen and Rouge just gives me the same whiplash from hearing some of the journalists give Balder's Gate 3 high praise for realistic dong physics but at the same time turning around and saying Eve from Stellar Blade sould cover up. They covered up Rouge's back, when she has wings, but gave the Black arms soldiers the most detailed butt i have seen in the game part of this franchise. all that is missing is a dong. 😵‍💫(basically the modern thing around female characters that actually makes me as a woman feel very unwelcome in todays day and age, and when it is in a game franchise with characters i have loved for over 20 years it hurts.)
      And for the rest of the re-writes my feeling are, "Well for a game all about nostalgia they sure as heck gave no fudge about crapping all over its past self🤗" .
      This has not given me any faith for future remakes.

    • @proceededspy1370
      @proceededspy1370 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelPup Short answear. i don't like re-writes i want the past to be as corny and cringy as it was. And i have a 0-tolerance for censorships.
      Long answear.
      I feel Amy had her character completely re-writen and Rouge just gives me the same whiplash from hearing some of the journalists give Balder's Gate 3 high praise for realistic dong physics but at the same time turning around and saying Eve from Stellar Blade sould cover up. They covered up Rouge's back, when she has wings, but gave the Black arms soldiers the most detailed butt i have seen in the game part of this franchise. all that is missing is a dong 😵‍💫 (basically the modern thing around female characters that actually makes me as a woman feel very unwelcome in todays day and age, and when it is in a game franchise with characters i have loved for over 20 years it hurts.)
      And for the rest of the re-writes my feeling are, "Well for a game all about nostalgia they sure as heck gave no fudge about crapping all over its past self🤗" .
      This has not given me any faith for future remakes.

    • @proceededspy1370
      @proceededspy1370 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelPup Short answear. I don't like re-writes i want the past to be as corny and cringy as it was. And i have a 0-tolerance for censorship.
      Speaking of i have been trying to answear for over an hour and my comment keep disappearing.

  • @goliath1785
    @goliath1785 Месяц назад

    If a season 2 ever happens they need to lean more into the game lore like including the Chaotix which would be really interesting

    • @Sone01TheFirst
      @Sone01TheFirst Месяц назад

      If a continuation of spin offs like this happens, they need to abandon the Streaming series model in favor of straight to streaming films(Or just release more films to cinema, whichever works). Until AI technology is advanced enough, the CGI is too much of an expense to give the game characters a consistent presence in the show.

  • @Rishi123456789
    @Rishi123456789 Месяц назад +3

    I am a big Knuckles fan, which is why I will never watch The Wade And Knuckles Show.

  • @supercyclone8342
    @supercyclone8342 Месяц назад

    You know, after your explanation of episode 1 I was almost willing to pause the video and give this show a chance... and then you explained that episode 2 concludes the non-existent arc of the whole show! Yeah, I just decided to watch the whole video instead lol

  • @BDSFormula1
    @BDSFormula1 Месяц назад +9

    this show was THE FLAMES OF DISASTER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
    NOW PUT IT OUT🔥🔥🔥

  • @GarudaUltima
    @GarudaUltima Месяц назад

    Yea, I definitely agree with your remaster of the show to be completely honest!

  • @DanielKariuki-er5gi
    @DanielKariuki-er5gi Месяц назад

    Knuckles and Wendy are the best characters. I like Wade as well.

  • @33pandagamer
    @33pandagamer Месяц назад

    As much as I liked the Knuckles Show, I will not stand for what they did to the Flames of Disaster and Iblis. They took something that was significant, and a major part of the lore, and turned it into a power-up.

  • @dwightk.schrute7213
    @dwightk.schrute7213 Месяц назад

    This is the honest criticism that the show needs. It could have been salvaged. Can't believe you liked the rock opera though lmao

  • @Oc_TheGrunt
    @Oc_TheGrunt Месяц назад

    Even though I can see all the flaws of the Knuckles show, I personally still think its a really fun show to watch, the goofiness of wade in the show makes me laugh so much and honestly my only complains with the final result is that I want wanda to be killed in sonic 3 I hate her so much, the buyer was defeated really easily and was underutilised a lot and the final bowling tourniment lasted a bit too long
    I do think it should have been called Wade & Knuckles since it wouldn't have pissed so many people off + be a funny reference to S3K
    Also FINALLY someone said that episode 4 is one of the best episodes for the show (hot take: it's my favourite episode)

  • @DrCocofruit
    @DrCocofruit Месяц назад

    Thank you for assuring us that Sonic 3 will be awesome. But please, I need to know...
    Is there any toilet humour to be aware of? (If you can say without spoilers) I wanna avoid them if the unfortunately exist there, but also I pray there ISNT ANY cue I watched Puss in Boots Last Wish two nights ago and realised there were NO 'childish' jokes or toilet humour (there was puss using the toilet like a human BUT that didn't overstay it's welcome and it was funny seeing him be discouraged for it like the cat he is) and that made the movie one of my favourites cus I can fully enjoy every second of it

  • @LeandroCartoon
    @LeandroCartoon Месяц назад

    I just like the series because has knuckles in it
    Oh-
    Its a knuckles show i guess

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 Месяц назад

    Okey man this is a long one so you listen and listen well iv seen poeple argue that fans shouldn't be up set becuase we KNEW what the premise is ahead of the show's release: (knuckles agrees to train wade as his protégé and teach him the ways of the echidna worrior) which i guess, in the strictest sence is true he does AGREE to do it but dosen't mean it ever HAPPENS. it would be fine if knuckles was still central to his role in guiding wade if they made it a point that, despite trying to teach him everything about becoming a great worrior - the way HE was taught and learnd - kunckles still manages to learn valueble lessons from wade throughout thier Journey together and i feel like thats what they were going for but thats not at all what the end result IS. wade is going to reno, and kunckles is just THERE sometimes

  • @indicidian7179
    @indicidian7179 Месяц назад +1

    I still don’t understand why you like episode 4 so much, like yeah its the episode with the most amount of sonic stuff, but the way its delivered makes me feel like the shows making fun of me for liking sonic stuff. Like the shows going “yeah look at all this dumb shit that we’re not even gonna bother putting in the budget to render cgi stuff, isnt this all so lame and cringe, can you believe people actually like this.” So it overall leaves a bad taste in my mouth

    • @devofficialchannel
      @devofficialchannel Месяц назад

      ​@jskywalker58If I remember, they wanted to tell Knuckles' backstory, but because of budget and time limits they couldn't animate the entire scene.
      So the rock opera was the most practical option for them (and I personally love it for that).

  • @cyl_genderfluid-furry
    @cyl_genderfluid-furry Месяц назад

    Honestly, just replace Knuckles with Moon Knight with the MCU suit (the best one) and nothing else changed, and I see the issue.

  • @ashesGeek
    @ashesGeek Месяц назад

    Hot take: Sonic Underground is just slightly cringe and is much better show than you remember. Main trio chemistry was pure gold.

  • @Matt2D2Music
    @Matt2D2Music Месяц назад

    This show is genuinely so much fun to watch

  • @scottnichols8211
    @scottnichols8211 Месяц назад

    I actually think it’s a fun show. It’s a good show. It’s just it didn’t meet Sonic fans expectations. But that doesn’t mean it’s a bad show. It’s actually a good one. So I say, stop going into things with expectations. Go in open minded and you might enjoy things. This goes for the games too.

  • @DonkeyFilms
    @DonkeyFilms Месяц назад

    Loved this series it was so stupid, btw I HEARD that there’s a small payoff to the Knuckles series in Sonic 3

  • @zeen9505
    @zeen9505 Месяц назад

    This show feels like a Nickelodeon sitcom, and it’s going to be re-aired on Nickelodeon… I think I only enjoyed it bc I was intoxicated throughout the watch. Objectively it’s bad, but I kinda like how stupid and shitty it is lmao. Having a good and thoughtful knuckles story would be lovely, we can dream.

  • @MrGamer07100
    @MrGamer07100 Месяц назад +1

    I wished episode 2 onward was episode 1 x10. Then it would have been fine. I’ll never see this show again. And I’ll happily forget it exists except I can’t. Lol My genuine problem with Knuckles is that it’s not funny. It just felt too meaningless. And I never cared for Wade as a character. The human characters are insufferable and uninteresting. I wasn’t expecting Wade to be the core central focus. And budget doesn’t excuse generic storytelling. What I liked about it? I like seeing Knuckles in action. I liked episode 1. At least we’re spared of any importance or relevancy to watch this series. If we do get a supposed Shadow and Knuckles series, hopefully it’s hella better than this.

  • @DoomDogLazy7335
    @DoomDogLazy7335 Месяц назад +1

    Yes, it was A Disappointing Spin-off. But it should be tails to got his own spin-off than knuckles?

    • @DamnZtar
      @DamnZtar Месяц назад

      @jskywalker58nah, that’ll happen in the shadow show, Tails will be sidelined in his show by having donut lord take over as the main character

  • @Bobb11881
    @Bobb11881 Месяц назад +2

    8:55 What do you mean by that?

  • @somedudewhodraws9377
    @somedudewhodraws9377 Месяц назад

    Seeing this really makes me concerned about the future of the SMU (Sonic Movie Universe). Cuz after the 3rd movie comes out and makes its through theaters then eventually to streaming and then what? Supposedly Paramount has plans fro Silver and Amy to appear soon and also supposedly Shadow will either get a spinoff movie or a series. Pararmount needs to hire writers who actually care about the fans and the games as this series was not a good test run and I refuse to finish it.

    • @DamnZtar
      @DamnZtar Месяц назад

      We are getting a 4th movie

  • @Planag7
    @Planag7 Месяц назад

    Sorry guy but I lived through Sonic underground it was all pizzazz all merch all push but for nothing in the end.
    It was basically a teaser for something that could have been and then was abandoned. This however has connections at least in the grand scheme of things.

  • @JOJO-oj8gy
    @JOJO-oj8gy Месяц назад

    They could just made a movie of the 1st , 2nd episode and the last half of final episode and it will still be better than the show

  • @smaco6633
    @smaco6633 Месяц назад

    In the game Pachacamac is someone who will put his pursuit of power in front of everything, willing to sacrifice his family
    ... in the series is just a goof.
    Thats... thats exactly what they are doing with Gerald, isnt it? serious in the games, goof in the movie verse. I havent seen the movie (obviously, i know you have pup so you'd prolly have an idea of how true this is) but they seem to be worried to tackle the more serious things of the sonicv story in the movieverse

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Месяц назад +1

      It's not the same thing, I'd say. Gerald is generally a goofier take but the core of the character is still there. Pachacamac just kinda hollowed the character out for a joke. With this, there's rhyme and reason to the changes and they do ultimately honour the character.

    • @smaco6633
      @smaco6633 Месяц назад

      @@ChannelPup Just saw your no spoiler review and im excited! I was worry about Gerald but if they kept the core of the character im hopeful! ... Sadly Sonic 3 releases on the 26th here so it will be hard to avoid spoilers, but ill do my best lmao.

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink Месяц назад

    "It's fisting time."
    Poor phrasing to put on the internet.

  • @Omen_SMK
    @Omen_SMK Месяц назад

    This solidified my fear in the movie franchise cause it reminded me of how transformers were treated where the characters we actually wanted to see for were just in the sideline and used just to fight for cool action

  • @EchidnaSharp
    @EchidnaSharp Месяц назад

    THE FLAMES OF DISASTER

  • @sr.palit0
    @sr.palit0 Месяц назад

    Knuckles show is good when knuckles is on screen doing something cool... Which is overshadowed by all the other nonsense
    Oh, I think the series would be better if it was about Knuckles telling stories from his past to Sonic and Tails.

  • @XP9724
    @XP9724 Месяц назад

    Mario bros 93 is fire

  • @rickyronny4019
    @rickyronny4019 Месяц назад

    Y’all will never make me hate this show. 😂

  • @Kopek-vn4mx
    @Kopek-vn4mx Месяц назад

    Before this show i only knew Reno from fallout 2

  • @philipthewolf8972
    @philipthewolf8972 Месяц назад

    Personally, I think the show is good through the first four episodes but there last 2 almost ruin the whole thing for me. They NEED to hire someone like Flynn to write the shadow spin-off, I don’t trust new people with the game cast after this.

  • @peterrealar2.067
    @peterrealar2.067 Месяц назад

    Yeah, this miniseries was all sorts of dumb. I even said so in my review.
    Knuckles NEVER TRAINED HIM.
    The opening did more training than the show. Pachacamac being the trainer was a copout.
    Which is funny, Wade is a cop, and didn't become a better cop in the end. They made him a better BOWLER??
    OCHO is Spanish for Eight. Oh-cho. Ever seen Herbie Goes Bananas? They say it there.

  • @maskedsentai2003
    @maskedsentai2003 Месяц назад

    I'm gonna watch sonic 3 on the 21st i wanted to watch it on the 20th but my dad have to go visit grandpa so my brother is taking me

  • @theevildalek5425
    @theevildalek5425 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t like The Flames of Disaster episode & Rock Opera. If that’s as far as the Knuckles Show will take Sonic seriously…Then I can’t really respect that

  • @WigWoo1
    @WigWoo1 Месяц назад +2

    I feel like I’m the odd one out because I think I might actually like knuckles better than sonic 2. Wade is one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise. He’s such a lovable dork and I love him. He’s very relatable in my opinion, and I think having knuckles as his partner is a much better and more fun dynamic than Tom and sonic

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Месяц назад

    Yeah the knuckles series sounded like a disappointment in my opinion, which is a shame because the knuckles show had so much potential to be amazing in my opinion.