Spoilers since I just came out of the theater and saw it. I know everyone thought Amy looked great in the post credit scene but can we please talk about how good Metal Sonic looked? He literally looked like he jumped out of the games themselves
Imagine we get little planet in sonic 4, palmtree panic, stardust speedway, timestones, etc. Possibly leading to a story with mephiles. Movie 5 with the black arms. The sixth movie just being called Sonic 06 getting mephiles would be cool. For spinoff shows adapting the story book games seeing darkspine and excalibur or even sonic rush to set up blaze the cat. So much potential.
It's likely that this might be the case, or that he was still at least created using Black Doom's DNA. There are villains out there in the Sonic franchise that would be intelligent enough to do what Gerald did.
While I'm still disappointed that Maria's death wasn't as intentional as the games, I'm glad they still made it so it was absolutely GUN's fault, seems they are ramping up the death and mayhem though.
I think it was a pretty smart work around (they def couldnt have her straight up get shot) because it doesn't change much about shadow's feelings. he knows they were ABSOLUTELY about to shoot and kill maria, there was just an accident that got in the way first.
I’m glad they kept shadows backstory especially with Maria pretty brief and only through flashbacks. I’d prefer shadows full backstory saved for a tv show or a spinoff movie
In terms of eggman dying, I think they can write around it in the future. Chaos does not need to be summoned by eggman, can be just be released by random people, deadly six have their own motivations and infinite could just be someone corrupted. I know this is rough but dr. eggman does not necessarily need to be an anchor. I mean, these movies clearly have not problem with changing around parts with origins.
Thing is eggman is a pretty important and iconic part of the franchise on the same level of sonic himself, especially with how Jim has elevated the role. Eggman is gonna have to return in later films and literally all of the villains you just mentioned minus chaos can't carry a movie
@@richardPatterson-d2x okay you are not wrong but if that is the case, they might make a new villain or drastically change the villains. Also, this universe, where it stands now would never do infinite. I just used that as an example
@@michaelfang1393 yeah, I do want to see the explanation in the movie universe but the thing is agent stone is still alive and maybe he might want to continue his masters original dream before change of heart and make metal sonic to take over humanity or I do not know, CD bad and good future. Probably too early for that especially since silver will probably be used in time travel
With how Metal Sonic appears during his initial teleportation in the post credits, I think it’s a reference to the terminator films. So I imagine the writers and director looked at sonic CD, with the theme of of time travel and robotnik making a bad mechanical future, and thought they could take terminator as inspiration for how to work it in the movies. With Metal sonic, Neo Metal Sonic or Metallix acting as skynet while Amy acts as Kyle Reese.
I saw a theory that proposed Sonic ran so fast he was in the future in that post-credit scene, hence why he doesn't recognize anything and Amy being in an "apocalypse" getup. Might be interesting if true.
As now we can spoil it... Well as I said in the previous video: I Loved the movie and definitely is the best of the saga. Now with spoilers (Don't read if you havent seen the movie) Loved the parts with Maria and Shadow, mainly she playing the guitar in a scene that reminded me of those indie films that exist, with the photography being beautiful alongside with the 70s music. About her death, it was obvious they weren't gonna kill her like in the games, instead it was an explosion as all people expected in the trailers but impactful. Black Doom teased in the exposition of Shadow backstory was a moment I loved. Live and Learn was just epic after the fight in the moon. Tails and Knuckles were great. As a Mexican who watched telenovelas with my family, I LOLed hard with the scenes of Robotnik/watching one. Dr. Eggman saying an announcement and goodbye Agent Stone was emotional. The music of Sonic 06 was referenced a lot by the way and I loved it. Amy and Metal Sonic at the end made me scream since I'm a big fan of them, and I think 2026-2027 could be the year of Amy, like Shadow had. Agent Rockwell not being Rouge, was a thing I liked since I think it wasn't the time and gives the possible Shadow spinoff ways to introduce her and Omega (Who by the way is one of my favorite characters of Team Dark) With all of this, a Sonic Heroes adaptation is nearer than ever before, and I cant wait for that, since I loved that game as a 7 year old, in early 2005. The only part I didnt like, it was the pacing a little bit, since it was too fast sometimes.
I don’t think Carrey is fully done as Eggman if metal Sonic is in the picture then Eggman is done just yet. Plus after the previous 2 films of Eggman being sent to a mushroom planet and coming back, falling a considerably high distance and somehow surviving I somehow doubt he didn’t bounce back from this space colony especially if shadow survived
I really wish I could watch one of these movies without having the post-credit characters spoiled for me beforehand. I posted a comment on a video that talked about the post-credit scene being spoiled, asking when people will stop doing that, and an asshole replied to every comment on that video saying Metal Sonic and Amy are in the post-credit scene.
@@keeferkifflom360What Sonic 3 Is the Best of the trilogy for Many fans and people that saw the movie early Is the most acurrate to His game that Maria wasnt sick doesnt change nothing duh they only change that Shadow origin Is the same never was so edgy edgy boy
I just saw the movie last night from an employee showing (which I can guarantee most people only went to see me go crazy), and I don’t give a crap about recency bias, that was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen, that might be my favorite experience for a movie I mean I was literally screaming my lungs out (yeah I kinda started losing my voice 😂) like when Sonic said “Talk about low budget flights. No food or movies? We’re out of here”, when he and later both he and Shadow went Super and fought, everything Shadow did, Super Sonic and Super Shadow doing the SA2 pose, seeing Metal Sonic and Amy in the mid-credit scene, FREAKING LIVE AND LEARN PLAYING!!!!! And to anyone who may say “kinda a jerk move to constantly be screaming throughout the movie while your coworkers are watching with you”, they knew what they were getting into, everyone literally sat in the rows behind me to see how I reacted, if they had a problem with it then they shouldn’t have come because they knew what I was gonna be like
I adored the little scene with team sonic & Stone searching the building, with the SA2 reference about Knuckles being afraid of ghosts, and then Shadow just pops up and goes "boo." 😂 I loved this movie! Cant wait to watch it again!
I feel like they can find a way to bring Eggman back if they want to. It was suggested he died at the end of the 2nd movie as well and yet he miraculously came back in the 3rd. He's like a cockroach. That said, I know to some reviewers Carrey makes the movies worth it to them but I felt like I could have used less of him here. Or at least could have used a less goofy more intimidating Gerald. I think they overdid it on the silly Carrey shenanigans. And Gerald's death felt anticlimactic. There's a bit of a tonal bouncing between Shadow's story and Eggman's arc that could be solidified more if Gerald was treated more seriously. But that's just my personal preference.
@ChannelPup yeah it's a real "blink and you miss it" kind of thing (especially because it's in black-and-white), but seeing the tube going down the neck was the giveaway for me.
haha yeah i rememebr looking and thinkign of they are watchign a godzilla movie, but then looking clearly and noticing wait a minute that looks liek a lizard...omg
How does this movie justify Professor Gerald still being alive after all this time? Even in the games, had Prof. Gerald NOT been executed by the military, he STILL would have died long before Eggman matured into middle age.
It doesn't. He just throws out "looking good for 110 right?" So Gerald is just REALLY old with no explanation. I'm guessing cybernetic enhancements or something
They could do what the fans have been hoping for: Sage as a new villain. Instead of a data creature, make her his BIOLOGICAL daughter, and have her think Sonic killed him. I know it's too early, but it's the choice I feel Fowler would go for.
Let's put Fang the Hunter in as a villain. I was actually for a bit there, almost believing they might actually kill off Shadow to avoid character bloat. They did tie up his story well. I was waiting for them to shoot poor little Maria. I didn't think they would, but man, they played into that expectation all of the long term fans would have. No one outside of a Sonic fan would understand our need to watch a child get capped. I mean, it's not like we want her to die, it's just a canon event! Ivo Robotnik/ Stone is probably my favorite Robotnik and his mook dynamic. I will be sad not see more of them together, but it was a brilliant Eggman send off.
I think a Shadow and Knuckles show about the emeralds getting stolen (Rouge perhaps?), leading to them teaming up to track them down could be really fun
Probably one of my favorite and more nuanced takes of robotnik I've seen in a while. I was iffy about jim carrey at first but he grew into a respectable Eggman.
I think that a new Robotnik/Eggman will return. A different version from another realm with different traits and look. Who would build Metal Sonics? We had Eggman Nega in games.
SPOILERS: Seriously Spoilers: The soldier trying to stop them from shooting at Maria, Gerald and Shadow is young Commander Walters. Gerald says they’re here to take Shadow away- that’s why GUN raided. A CHAO IN SPACE poster can be seen when Shadow shows up in Tokyo.
i have a few thoughts on the first post credit scene spoiler warning- For the first 2 movies, we got a little tease onto the new characters, with tails and shadow appearing and simply teasing the next movie however with this one, sonic full on meets metal sonic and amy in the end of the third film in some really weird context. Which makes me a little concerned for how they're gonna introduce them in the 4th film The most obvious choice is to just retcon it and introduce them a new way but it just feels a little odd. Why couldnt they have just had metal sonic looking over at sonic from a distance watching him, or anything which doesnt basically force itself to not be real, or really mess with the start of the 4th movie
I mean if we're being honest, they COULD just start the 4th movie with the ending of 3. Start with the race, but also show context for Metal Sonic and Amy. Then it can go from where we last left sonic with more context perhaps?
Sonic CD would be a great place to go for adaptation next. Say Amy's from or knows about Little Planet, it's in trouble from a new villain, she's shown up to get help. This gives the plot a reason to get off of Earth, though admittedly away from Tom and Maddie, who I like to see (unless they come too). Still, you'd need to explain where the metal Sonics are coming from though, and I'm not sure who could be responsible for creating them, given the way Robotnik is both reformed/dead and Stone has no real reason to carry on. I'd say focus on that and then do adventure 1 with Chaos in the next film, spacing them out. 4's gonna have to introduce a new villain, and it might be a good time to start bringing in the planetary threats the series has seen (Perfect Chaos, Dark Gaia, Dark Mother Wisp, etc.) Then there's stuff like Shadow's actual origin, since he's actually from outer space, or Blaze's dimension, if they wanna go planet hopping again. Once again, bring Tom and Maddie along, they're like Chris Thorndyke, but if he actually worked the way he was supposed to. There's a lot to use, but it all hinges on the villain. Black Doom is viable, but Shadow needs to be on hand to resolve that.
"They're going to need to do a lot of work to bring him back and not undercut his sacrifice" No one's gonna tell him about Mr. Tinker, right? How Metal Sonic dragged him out of that peaceful lovely life in that cute village with his new wooden-botik daughter, mind broken back into being Eggman, His sacrifice may be chipped at, but it'll give us a new bitter moment. We even still have a lanky counterpart that can take over the Starline spot as the man who orders the Metals to do it.
@@ChannelPup Oh I know. But they haven't exactly followed Game or Comic story before. They can bring him back as Mr Tinker, fully Fat suited up, jolly helpful funny man who makes little toys in a little village for the kids. Doesn't even have to be in the next movie. Can be a teaser for a fifth movie. Roll the bringing back Mr Tinker in with the Sonic Forces storyline, flipping the events, and making the deranged mentality he showed when he first came back be the reason why he wins at the start of Forces. Heck they can do a whole subplot of Sonic failing to save Mr Tinker affecting his ego, sorta similar to how he thought his Donut Lord Dad was hurt. The next movie, in my opinion, with all the extra Metal Sonics, could be a Heros storyline, with Metal Sonic sending his clones after sonic and the gang.
9:16 as charriii5's stace on this has always been like i rather you do more with least characters than fill your story with characters we can't give equal focus to and that we can't care as much about in this case with rouge if we're going to get rouge i would rather her come into a story where we can actually focus on who she is as a character or as least where she comes from what she does than just have her be there for the sake of having her be there
I hugely agree. It feels force setup to show up in another film if they did that, and it'll do too much. Which is one of the main issues Marvel suffered with, and as Jeff Fowler said. It's better to see those fan favorites do more and play into the story rather than being there for cheers then disappears through out the film to be wasted for the sake of needing a fan favorite being there.
I always maintained they could do the personality backup thing they did in the Archie series. Imagine a scene in film 4 where its revealed that theres a line of Eggman bodies of different types, and the personality data is being downloaded into a body played by Willem Dafoe.
I just watched the movie last night and there are no words to describe the feeling I have when I watched this movie. The only thing that could describe it is like if I was on cloud 9. The fact that we are alive on this planet where we are getting a live action Sonic Movie universe is surreal to me. Let alone we got to watch Shadow the hedgehog on the big screen. I was emotional and teared up because the emotions just hit me all at once and to see how well it was don was everything I could have asked for. The fact that we are already getting Sonic movie 4 just proves how successful video game films can be when done the right way. Sure Robotnik was goofy and so was Gerald but I didn’t care. Jim Carey put his magnificent twist into these characters that made it work and it was never over the top for me. To me they were still Eggman and Gerald was Gerald. Gerald was even crazier than in SA2 in my opinion. The post credit scenes I will not mention but I’ll just say I lost it when I watched the first one.
You know..I’d find it really funny if for sonic 4, we basically redid the mid credit scene with Amy but as soon as she takes off the hood, she goes full blown fan girl mood like “oh my gosh! It’s sonic! Did that look cool? Please tell me that looked cool?!” So that way there is kinda that “crush” but would also act as a nice little foil to Sonic, having finally seen someone as hyperactive as he is and the rest of the film is basically Sonic and Amy actually gaining that mutual friendship but hints of something else just there as well but normally expanded on. Would be better than just the standard 2010 style of “Me woman! Hear me roar.”! …okay granted there could be a better way of saying that but my point is I don’t want Amy to be a Mary sue . I have faith that we won’t go that route , though :) Maria not being ill…eh I can live with that. Honestly I didn’t even know she had a illness until like years after playing adventure 2 and shadows game (late 200/ to early 2010s, was a very late sonic fan) and it’s nothing really those latter games really delved into it. Heck that animation before generations was the first time I actually saw them expand on that illness. Sure it was probably mentioned in the manuals for the games but I didn’t read those or whatever. As for Robotnik…well to be fair he never really said he was turning good, just that he wanted to conquer not destroy, so while a return back in the antagonist role isn’t exactly out of reach, it does overall depend on Carrey’s willingness That said..I still feel mixed on Gerald being as whacky as Ivo
Watched it yesterday, and I absolutely loved it. A couple things though, the pacing was a little too fast at times (ironic, I know) and I'm not sure if it's because people keep pointing it out during the first 2 movies, but I felt like this one was far too heavy on the pop culture references. The comedy was 50/50 for me, sometimes good, sometimes very flat and basic. I will say though, Gerald's death made me audibly laugh in the theater. However, for whatever flat and low points this movie had, the high points way overshadowed (pun kinda intended) anything the low points toned down. I'm hoping that, if they're gonna bring eggman back, do it in 5 or something more creative. I know he's just as important to the sonic series as sonic himself and Jim absolutely crushes the role, but let's give the guy at least a one movie break. I'm really hoping we get a heroes/CD adaptation next movie and maybe having Agent Stone take over Robotnik's plans. There's so much potential for these movies and I'm here all the way!
Based on the fact that Shadow survived in the post credits scenes, 05 has to eventually happen. However, I have a feeling that it’ll be drastically different from the original game. It’s probably because this version came from a meteor, which makes me think that Black Doom probably created Shadow without any help (unlike the games) and that Shadow probably was a scout for Black Doom this entire time. I also have the feeling that Shadow will probably be manipulated into an even worse situation than what happened in the game because of him coming from a meteor, and that Gerald wasn’t the one that created him: probably leaving him to fend for himself in the upcoming Black Arms event. I also have the feelings that Gerald probably didn’t leave the note for Shadow to make the right judgement on the Black Arms, which might make things even worse.
Just got back from watching, so I'm not being spoiled. The closest thing to someone that could take over from Eggman that I can think of are THE END and Dr. Starline. THE END can endlessly reincarnate and is the literal antithesis to Chaos (the force not the character) and Sonic. It has no brethren and loves subjecting others to harm and death. Also, given its propensity for simple but devastating plans, manipulation, and capability to hijack and mutate machines alongside its goals of reducing all of existence to nothing it'd be very easy to have it as the overarching antagonist. Plus, it having beef with Sonic and taking it out on Movie Sonic sadistically would be dastardly hilarious and wonderful. Starline could have seen Eggman's livestream, looked into him, and taken his inspiration to make Surge and Kit; the fact Sonic is a KNOWN figure legendary for his speed would also help with that. Heck, maybe the Warp Topaz overload warped Starline into the movie universe when he was about to die by rubble!
The body kill count in this movie was pretty crazy, as well as the swearing. Also, this film actually had horror movie elements with jump scares during one scene that starts as a reference to Knuckles being freaked out by ghosts like King Boom Boo from Sonic Adventure 2. I both love and hate that part of the movie. I love it because it’s sinister, and it makes Shadow both awesome and terrifying. But I also hate it because Sonic is meant for kids, and it shouldn’t really try to scare them, and I also hate jump scares. Horror movies are my phobia, so when I got to the jump scares in this movie, like the moment when a broken pipe bursts out steam, it legitimately almost gave me a heart attack because of how much I did not expect jump scares to be in Sonic.
Mephiles could work as kind of a background villain. Someone who is manipulating other villains to do his dirty work and waits for the right moment to strike on his own. That's kind of what he what he was in Sonic 06
okay regarding the ending: if Shadow’s alive, then he could’ve saved Eggman too because we see how he’s kinda cool with him. would explain Metal sonic too
So I do actually agree this is the best spot to end things on for Robotnik but metal sonic has to come from somewhere right? It was stated by Gerald that the cannon ran on chaos energy and while it was never properly used in the movie, chaos control is a teleportation power. So what if the explosion was just a destructive teleportation. Robotnik also did still have that sonic quill on hand. My personal theory is that Robotnik was transported to Sonic’s original world where he built metal sonic and stuff happens there which is why Amy is suddenly coming to Earth likely to find Sonic. I do genuinely think the best way to avoid reversing Eggman’s arc is for Metal Sonic to be the big bad taking over Robotnik’s operation. This would also be a great way of giving the characters a reason to leave Earth. Of course I would personally love if Robotnik was kept dead since that’s something the games can’t do and is a great way to conclude his story.
I personally think it's entirely possible that because Shadow and Eggman were working together at the end it's entirely possible that since Shadow survived he may have grabbed Eggman on his way out of the explosion
As far is Eggman is concerned, it could be possible they could use an alternative version of Eggman from another universe like they did in the Archie comics. Not quite on the same level of Jim Carry’s Eggman but still just as entertaining. Or they could go the IDW route and introduce a character like Dr. Starline who idolizes Eggman and tries to emulate him. If tails could find and monitor Sonic from across the universe, I am sure someone would do the same for Eggman.
Spoilers below When the Maria death scene happened, a guy in my theater started clapping. The 3 kids in the audience must've been so confused but I respect the man for having the balls to do it While they changed Shadow's origin story, they did it justice which I appreciated. The whole, 50 years ago humans had a space colony and were experimenting on creating immortality with Doom's DNA wouldn't really make sense, since that would means 50 years ago humans had better tech than they do today. Gerald no longer being a biologist creating lifeforms also provides the reason for no Bio Lizard, although I still wish they had it if they were going to have a CGI battle anyways. While I did absolutely love the movie, I feel like it needed just...a few more minutes for Shadow to turn to the good side. Just a couple more scenes of him doubting destroying the earth, or having conflicting opinions with Gerald. I also feel like maybe he was a bit too buddy buddy at the end with Sonic, I wanted more of a reluctant team up rather than Shadow basically joining the Team and turning good guy (Which in hindsight...makes me kind of a dick, Shadow's suffered enough, let him have a family and friends screw it)
maybe he secretly created metal sonic as a last resort if he ever died which is why he took sonic's quill in the middle of the movie? which could set up metal sonic to actually have eggman's consciousness Ig
It so sad Dr. Robotnik sacrifice himself to save the world in the movie about jim gonna be retired for being a actor after the movie ended with him. Truly a legend and a hero in the end
Sonic being the one to convince shadow makes complete sense in a way seeing age parallels Sega has give to sonic and Maria especially the end of SXS Gens. this part is just fan canon but sonic represents hope and freedom and Amy represents kindness and comfort the best of humanity these traits are all shared by them and Maria.
23:13 YES!!!! YEEEEESSS!!!! I don't know about you, but I thought this song NEEDED to be in the movie, seriously, I would even swap live and learn for it.
Guys should i bring a speaker into the theaters so when the final credits finish rolling i can just blast live and learn and the whole room starts singing in hype
I guess Ritter was cast because they wanted someone with gravitas to replace Walters...which I guess means G.U.N. is going to continue to show up moving forward.
The Great Battle Kukku being voiced by William Dafoe would be a dream of mine. I am not sure if you know Tekno the Canary from Sonic the Comic. I know originally in her backstory, she was forced to work for Eggman. But maybe in this continuity, she could work for the Grand Kukku. She gets a change of heart when she meets Amy.
Tease Mephiles for Movie 6, but instead of wanting to unleash Solaris, he wants to unleash Chaos, build up to it. And as far as Movie 4, if Metal Sonic is from the Future, they could do a Eggman Nega and just have someone else play the character and have Nega be the one that built Metal and sent him back to the past, then because of time travel shenanigans, Mephiles becomes aware of Sonic and how he could mess with his plan SA 1 Perfect Chaos fight but with all the characters ala Endgame style
Robotnik wasn't "redeemed" per se, he just discovered a small amount of humanity to save someone he cared about, but he still wants Earth to conquer. So, he may see the value of human life, but he's too much of an egomaniac to not want the universe to bow to him.
Not that its likely, but I'd go absolutely insane if they brought in Dr Starline as a temporary replacement for Eggmans role. I honestly believe he has immense potential with the right script
Agent Rockwell should've been Agent Topaz from Sonic X. and have the actor look JUST LIKE the anime topaz design. it would make perfect sense. and more sense than having rouge there. cuz then you could bring back this human character in future movies ALONGSIDE rouge!
I love spoilers but unfortunately I had a special deal with SEGA and got to see the movie early so now the spoilers mean nothing 😭 That being said, my biggest complaints before the movie was a lack of Rouge, Amy, and bio-lizard. **Spoiler alert** 2/3 ain't bad. Edit: holy shit, I went back to the leaked concept art for Sonic Movie 3 and Amy's outfit matches. On top of that she was supposed to be on the moon with Sonic instead of Shadow. I really wonder the Amy and Rouge version of the movie looks like because they're there in concept art so we completely know what they look like in the movie universe. Edit 2: did you miss the Bio-Lizard cameo?
Spoilers since I just came out of the theater and saw it.
I know everyone thought Amy looked great in the post credit scene but can we please talk about how good Metal Sonic looked? He literally looked like he jumped out of the games themselves
I kinda didn’t like that actually, seemed too similar, like they just ripped the model.
Metal sonic actually looked like his game counterpart
i know right? that’s exactly what i thought too! i wonder how they’re gonna treat amy and metal showing up out of nowhere
Revenge guac reminds me of how Eggman called all his food evil food in Sonic Boom
Imagine we get little planet in sonic 4, palmtree panic, stardust speedway, timestones, etc. Possibly leading to a story with mephiles. Movie 5 with the black arms. The sixth movie just being called Sonic 06 getting mephiles would be cool. For spinoff shows adapting the story book games seeing darkspine and excalibur or even sonic rush to set up blaze the cat. So much potential.
*I consent to getting spoiled.*
agreed, don't got a dung to spoilers. :D
Although Gerald may not have created shadow, i think it goes without saying he was still created by Black Doom just not with Gerald's help
It's likely that this might be the case, or that he was still at least created using Black Doom's DNA. There are villains out there in the Sonic franchise that would be intelligent enough to do what Gerald did.
While I'm still disappointed that Maria's death wasn't as intentional as the games, I'm glad they still made it so it was absolutely GUN's fault, seems they are ramping up the death and mayhem though.
They turned her into fried chicken.
Yeah, that dude was definitely *going* to shoot her. That was enough for me. 😅
I think it was a pretty smart work around (they def couldnt have her straight up get shot) because it doesn't change much about shadow's feelings. he knows they were ABSOLUTELY about to shoot and kill maria, there was just an accident that got in the way first.
@@VerivikReminds me of those canon events where no matter what universe, GUN will always somehow kill her to trigger Shadow's story
I’m glad they kept shadows backstory especially with Maria pretty brief and only through flashbacks. I’d prefer shadows full backstory saved for a tv show or a spinoff movie
Not watching just commenting because algorithm boost or whatever.
Same
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Silver's in the movie
@ nope
@@noww446 seen people say the same about a million other characters so I can’t take you seriously lmao
In terms of eggman dying, I think they can write around it in the future. Chaos does not need to be summoned by eggman, can be just be released by random people, deadly six have their own motivations and infinite could just be someone corrupted. I know this is rough but dr. eggman does not necessarily need to be an anchor. I mean, these movies clearly have not problem with changing around parts with origins.
They're gonna need to explain Metal Sonic because Ivo is the very reason for his existence.
Thing is eggman is a pretty important and iconic part of the franchise on the same level of sonic himself, especially with how Jim has elevated the role.
Eggman is gonna have to return in later films and literally all of the villains you just mentioned minus chaos can't carry a movie
@@richardPatterson-d2x okay you are not wrong but if that is the case, they might make a new villain or drastically change the villains. Also, this universe, where it stands now would never do infinite. I just used that as an example
@@michaelfang1393 yeah, I do want to see the explanation in the movie universe but the thing is agent stone is still alive and maybe he might want to continue his masters original dream before change of heart and make metal sonic to take over humanity or I do not know, CD bad and good future. Probably too early for that especially since silver will probably be used in time travel
@@michaelfang1393 maybe they'll use agent stone
With how Metal Sonic appears during his initial teleportation in the post credits, I think it’s a reference to the terminator films.
So I imagine the writers and director looked at sonic CD, with the theme of of time travel and robotnik making a bad mechanical future, and thought they could take terminator as inspiration for how to work it in the movies. With Metal sonic, Neo Metal Sonic or Metallix acting as skynet while Amy acts as Kyle Reese.
I saw a theory that proposed Sonic ran so fast he was in the future in that post-credit scene, hence why he doesn't recognize anything and Amy being in an "apocalypse" getup.
Might be interesting if true.
I guess the whole "loathsome copy" would make sense in the movie
Just got back from seeing the movie during the "fan event". So good of movie, I'm seeing it AGAIN. Tomorrow!
Same here saw it at 3 in 4DX
Same, everyone went crazy at the best parts
SAME! Need to process what I just watched this afternoon
Same here!! Need a second viewing to truly process what happened
Same
As now we can spoil it... Well as I said in the previous video: I Loved the movie and definitely is the best of the saga.
Now with spoilers (Don't read if you havent seen the movie)
Loved the parts with Maria and Shadow, mainly she playing the guitar in a scene that reminded me of those indie films that exist, with the photography being beautiful alongside with the 70s music.
About her death, it was obvious they weren't gonna kill her like in the games, instead it was an explosion as all people expected in the trailers but impactful.
Black Doom teased in the exposition of Shadow backstory was a moment I loved.
Live and Learn was just epic after the fight in the moon.
Tails and Knuckles were great.
As a Mexican who watched telenovelas with my family, I LOLed hard with the scenes of Robotnik/watching one.
Dr. Eggman saying an announcement and goodbye Agent Stone was emotional.
The music of Sonic 06 was referenced a lot by the way and I loved it.
Amy and Metal Sonic at the end made me scream since I'm a big fan of them, and I think 2026-2027 could be the year of Amy, like Shadow had.
Agent Rockwell not being Rouge, was a thing I liked since I think it wasn't the time and gives the possible Shadow spinoff ways to introduce her and Omega (Who by the way is one of my favorite characters of Team Dark)
With all of this, a Sonic Heroes adaptation is nearer than ever before, and I cant wait for that, since I loved that game as a 7 year old, in early 2005.
The only part I didnt like, it was the pacing a little bit, since it was too fast sometimes.
Was live and learn the actual thing? Lyrics and all?
@@theguywholikesturtlez Yes!!!
@@theguywholikesturtlezfull action sequence lyrics and all.
I can confirm, yes!!!!
What music from sonic 06 was referenced? I didn’t catch it
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I don’t think Carrey is fully done as Eggman if metal Sonic is in the picture then Eggman is done just yet. Plus after the previous 2 films of Eggman being sent to a mushroom planet and coming back, falling a considerably high distance and somehow surviving I somehow doubt he didn’t bounce back from this space colony especially if shadow survived
I really wish I could watch one of these movies without having the post-credit characters spoiled for me beforehand. I posted a comment on a video that talked about the post-credit scene being spoiled, asking when people will stop doing that, and an asshole replied to every comment on that video saying Metal Sonic and Amy are in the post-credit scene.
Whoa, maria not beeing sick is a biiiig change
It’s a paramount film,their films are mediocre and by the numbers..of course this film was gonna be missing depth lol.
That's one thing that threw me off, I was questioning: are they gonna talk about why they have her in the lab?
@@keeferkifflom360 not what they were implying.
@@keeferkifflom360What Sonic 3 Is the Best of the trilogy for Many fans and people that saw the movie early Is the most acurrate to His game that Maria wasnt sick doesnt change nothing duh they only change that Shadow origin Is the same never was so edgy edgy boy
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I agree, I'm shocked the sonic movies are as decent as they are!!
I came from the movie theater an hour ago and I thought it was peak.
The OST has now released. The track GUN Control is a reworking of Escape from the City so that's another one you can add to the stack.
I just saw the movie last night from an employee showing (which I can guarantee most people only went to see me go crazy), and I don’t give a crap about recency bias, that was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen, that might be my favorite experience for a movie I mean I was literally screaming my lungs out (yeah I kinda started losing my voice 😂) like when Sonic said “Talk about low budget flights. No food or movies? We’re out of here”, when he and later both he and Shadow went Super and fought, everything Shadow did, Super Sonic and Super Shadow doing the SA2 pose, seeing Metal Sonic and Amy in the mid-credit scene, FREAKING LIVE AND LEARN PLAYING!!!!! And to anyone who may say “kinda a jerk move to constantly be screaming throughout the movie while your coworkers are watching with you”, they knew what they were getting into, everyone literally sat in the rows behind me to see how I reacted, if they had a problem with it then they shouldn’t have come because they knew what I was gonna be like
I adored the little scene with team sonic & Stone searching the building, with the SA2 reference about Knuckles being afraid of ghosts, and then Shadow just pops up and goes "boo." 😂
I loved this movie! Cant wait to watch it again!
The eclipse Canon still has the Half moon shape and Gerald's face. I would still describe it has a hybrid.
The military still used gun to kill Maria in front of Shadow.
the entire narrative structure is the same.
Biolizard does make an appearance. It is in the movie Shadow and Maria are watching.
I feel like they can find a way to bring Eggman back if they want to. It was suggested he died at the end of the 2nd movie as well and yet he miraculously came back in the 3rd. He's like a cockroach. That said, I know to some reviewers Carrey makes the movies worth it to them but I felt like I could have used less of him here. Or at least could have used a less goofy more intimidating Gerald. I think they overdid it on the silly Carrey shenanigans. And Gerald's death felt anticlimactic. There's a bit of a tonal bouncing between Shadow's story and Eggman's arc that could be solidified more if Gerald was treated more seriously. But that's just my personal preference.
Im still going to watch it haha, sonic is one of those series that I can tolerate spoilers!
Heres an thing most pieces of media should be good even with spoilers. With some exceptions such as when a twist is the foundation of said media.
tbf we *kind of * got the Biolizard...? It was the Godzilla-esque puppet monster in the kaiju movie Shadow and Maria watched
... Damn. Nice takeaway!!
@ChannelPup yeah it's a real "blink and you miss it" kind of thing (especially because it's in black-and-white), but seeing the tube going down the neck was the giveaway for me.
haha yeah i rememebr looking and thinkign of they are watchign a godzilla movie, but then looking clearly and noticing wait a minute that looks liek a lizard...omg
Agent Stone could definitely be the next Eggman! Some development and redesign
How does this movie justify Professor Gerald still being alive after all this time? Even in the games, had Prof. Gerald NOT been executed by the military, he STILL would have died long before Eggman matured into middle age.
Gerald mentions that he is 110 in the movie. The movie doesn't mention how he's still alive and active though
It doesn't. He just throws out "looking good for 110 right?" So Gerald is just REALLY old with no explanation. I'm guessing cybernetic enhancements or something
Also he seems to get energized by Shadow’s quill he has on him all the time.
I’m hyped that Amy and Metal are finally in the movie verse. We gettin a cd adaptation next ladies and gents!
They should change the music in the Japanese/European and American versions of Sonic the Hedgehog 4 that would be awesome
They better get Tee Lopes to do the music.
They could do what the fans have been hoping for: Sage as a new villain. Instead of a data creature, make her his BIOLOGICAL daughter, and have her think Sonic killed him. I know it's too early, but it's the choice I feel Fowler would go for.
It wasn't another soldier pup it was young Walters that attempted to stop the shot from going off in the flashback
Thanks for the clarification. Only seen it the once over 10 days ago so some things got a little lost.
@ it's all good bro keep up the good work! Great review overall!
Let's put Fang the Hunter in as a villain. I was actually for a bit there, almost believing they might actually kill off Shadow to avoid character bloat. They did tie up his story well.
I was waiting for them to shoot poor little Maria. I didn't think they would, but man, they played into that expectation all of the long term fans would have. No one outside of a Sonic fan would understand our need to watch a child get capped. I mean, it's not like we want her to die, it's just a canon event!
Ivo Robotnik/ Stone is probably my favorite Robotnik and his mook dynamic. I will be sad not see more of them together, but it was a brilliant Eggman send off.
Amy barely did anything in Adventure 2.
She hasn't been setup yet.
Sonic can give the Maria turn speech fine enough.
I think a Shadow and Knuckles show about the emeralds getting stolen (Rouge perhaps?), leading to them teaming up to track them down could be really fun
They really have room for Mephiles, since Knuckles has Iblis's power, you could have Mephiles and Silver go after him for it.
The robotnik trilogy has ended fellas
Probably one of my favorite and more nuanced takes of robotnik I've seen in a while.
I was iffy about jim carrey at first but he grew into a respectable Eggman.
I think that a new Robotnik/Eggman will return. A different version from another realm with different traits and look. Who would build Metal Sonics? We had Eggman Nega in games.
That final act felt like a fever dream, it was so awesome
IKR, THE END CREDIT SCENE ALSO FELT LIKE A FEVER DREAM- ACTUALLY THE WHOLE MOVIE DID, I HAVE BEEN WAITING 2 YEARS FOR THIS MOMENT..
All's I'm gonna say is whatever they do next with Shadow had dang well better involve...the Computer Room. :D
Knuckles season two to be a long love triangle between Knuckles Shadow and Rouge
18:56 We could pull a robo Robotnik from the Archie comics.
Ngl I had the same thought, either that or Tails and Knuckles gave him a ring to use that he used at the last minute
SPOILERS:
Seriously Spoilers:
The soldier trying to stop them from shooting at Maria, Gerald and Shadow is young Commander Walters.
Gerald says they’re here to take Shadow away- that’s why GUN raided.
A CHAO IN SPACE poster can be seen when Shadow shows up in Tokyo.
IM BACK TO FINISH WATCHING THAT SHIT WAS SO GOOD
No Silver :c
i have a few thoughts on the first post credit scene
spoiler warning-
For the first 2 movies, we got a little tease onto the new characters, with tails and shadow appearing and simply teasing the next movie
however with this one, sonic full on meets metal sonic and amy in the end of the third film in some really weird context. Which makes me a little concerned for how they're gonna introduce them in the 4th film
The most obvious choice is to just retcon it and introduce them a new way but it just feels a little odd. Why couldnt they have just had metal sonic looking over at sonic from a distance watching him, or anything which doesnt basically force itself to not be real, or really mess with the start of the 4th movie
I mean if we're being honest, they COULD just start the 4th movie with the ending of 3. Start with the race, but also show context for Metal Sonic and Amy. Then it can go from where we last left sonic with more context perhaps?
I screamed with all my life when I heard the first strum of Live and Learn
Just finished the movie and HOLY SHIT IM SO EXCITED FOR SONIC 4. THAT FINAL FIGHT AND THAT MID CREDIT SCENE GOT ME HYPED
Sonic CD would be a great place to go for adaptation next. Say Amy's from or knows about Little Planet, it's in trouble from a new villain, she's shown up to get help. This gives the plot a reason to get off of Earth, though admittedly away from Tom and Maddie, who I like to see (unless they come too). Still, you'd need to explain where the metal Sonics are coming from though, and I'm not sure who could be responsible for creating them, given the way Robotnik is both reformed/dead and Stone has no real reason to carry on.
I'd say focus on that and then do adventure 1 with Chaos in the next film, spacing them out. 4's gonna have to introduce a new villain, and it might be a good time to start bringing in the planetary threats the series has seen (Perfect Chaos, Dark Gaia, Dark Mother Wisp, etc.) Then there's stuff like Shadow's actual origin, since he's actually from outer space, or Blaze's dimension, if they wanna go planet hopping again. Once again, bring Tom and Maddie along, they're like Chris Thorndyke, but if he actually worked the way he was supposed to.
There's a lot to use, but it all hinges on the villain. Black Doom is viable, but Shadow needs to be on hand to resolve that.
Sonic says the low budget flights line
Also, I see 2 possible ways to explain metal sonic: Dr. Starline (IDW comics) or do a time travel movie
In the music section of the credits, I saw Escape From The City there but I didn’t hear it throughout the movie.
"They're going to need to do a lot of work to bring him back and not undercut his sacrifice"
No one's gonna tell him about Mr. Tinker, right? How Metal Sonic dragged him out of that peaceful lovely life in that cute village with his new wooden-botik daughter, mind broken back into being Eggman, His sacrifice may be chipped at, but it'll give us a new bitter moment. We even still have a lanky counterpart that can take over the Starline spot as the man who orders the Metals to do it.
That worked there but Robotnik didn't get a massive full circle moment in Sonic Forces nor was he explicitly killed off.
@@ChannelPup Oh I know. But they haven't exactly followed Game or Comic story before. They can bring him back as Mr Tinker, fully Fat suited up, jolly helpful funny man who makes little toys in a little village for the kids. Doesn't even have to be in the next movie. Can be a teaser for a fifth movie. Roll the bringing back Mr Tinker in with the Sonic Forces storyline, flipping the events, and making the deranged mentality he showed when he first came back be the reason why he wins at the start of Forces.
Heck they can do a whole subplot of Sonic failing to save Mr Tinker affecting his ego, sorta similar to how he thought his Donut Lord Dad was hurt. The next movie, in my opinion, with all the extra Metal Sonics, could be a Heros storyline, with Metal Sonic sending his clones after sonic and the gang.
9:16 as charriii5's stace on this has always been like i rather you do more with least characters than fill your story with characters we can't give equal focus to and that we can't care as much about in this case with rouge if we're going to get rouge i would rather her come into a story where we can actually focus on who she is as a character or as least where she comes from what she does than just have her be there for the sake of having her be there
I hugely agree. It feels force setup to show up in another film if they did that, and it'll do too much. Which is one of the main issues Marvel suffered with, and as Jeff Fowler said. It's better to see those fan favorites do more and play into the story rather than being there for cheers then disappears through out the film to be wasted for the sake of needing a fan favorite being there.
I always maintained they could do the personality backup thing they did in the Archie series. Imagine a scene in film 4 where its revealed that theres a line of Eggman bodies of different types, and the personality data is being downloaded into a body played by Willem Dafoe.
God this just makes me think that if these movies were made like a decade earlier then Robin Williams would've done great as Eggman
I just watched the movie last night and there are no words to describe the feeling I have when I watched this movie. The only thing that could describe it is like if I was on cloud 9. The fact that we are alive on this planet where we are getting a live action Sonic Movie universe is surreal to me. Let alone we got to watch Shadow the hedgehog on the big screen. I was emotional and teared up because the emotions just hit me all at once and to see how well it was don was everything I could have asked for. The fact that we are already getting Sonic movie 4 just proves how successful video game films can be when done the right way. Sure Robotnik was goofy and so was Gerald but I didn’t care. Jim Carey put his magnificent twist into these characters that made it work and it was never over the top for me. To me they were still Eggman and Gerald was Gerald. Gerald was even crazier than in SA2 in my opinion. The post credit scenes I will not mention but I’ll just say I lost it when I watched the first one.
You know..I’d find it really funny if for sonic 4, we basically redid the mid credit scene with Amy but as soon as she takes off the hood, she goes full blown fan girl mood like “oh my gosh! It’s sonic! Did that look cool? Please tell me that looked cool?!”
So that way there is kinda that “crush” but would also act as a nice little foil to Sonic, having finally seen someone as hyperactive as he is and the rest of the film is basically Sonic and Amy actually gaining that mutual friendship but hints of something else just there as well but normally expanded on.
Would be better than just the standard 2010 style of “Me woman! Hear me roar.”!
…okay granted there could be a better way of saying that but my point is I don’t want Amy to be a Mary sue . I have faith that we won’t go that route , though :)
Maria not being ill…eh I can live with that. Honestly I didn’t even know she had a illness until like years after playing adventure 2 and shadows game (late 200/ to early 2010s, was a very late sonic fan) and it’s nothing really those latter games really delved into it. Heck that animation before generations was the first time I actually saw them expand on that illness. Sure it was probably mentioned in the manuals for the games but I didn’t read those or whatever.
As for Robotnik…well to be fair he never really said he was turning good, just that he wanted to conquer not destroy, so while a return back in the antagonist role isn’t exactly out of reach, it does overall depend on Carrey’s willingness
That said..I still feel mixed on Gerald being as whacky as Ivo
She could definitely have one moment standing tall like in the scene and then go complete fangirl towards him the next second.
No retconning needed.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I think the scene with Shadow watching the telenovela is a nod to the "I just love Latinas" meme.
Amy: I’m here to talk about the Heroes Initiative!
ok but NULL SPACE FROM SONIC FORCES WHAT actually it kinda makes sense because the portal was sucking them in so i guess it can be null space but WHAT
Well that's just what I named it. It's more just kinda a black hole.
You don’t understand how good it feels to finally watch these videos.
Watched it yesterday, and I absolutely loved it. A couple things though, the pacing was a little too fast at times (ironic, I know) and I'm not sure if it's because people keep pointing it out during the first 2 movies, but I felt like this one was far too heavy on the pop culture references. The comedy was 50/50 for me, sometimes good, sometimes very flat and basic. I will say though, Gerald's death made me audibly laugh in the theater. However, for whatever flat and low points this movie had, the high points way overshadowed (pun kinda intended) anything the low points toned down. I'm hoping that, if they're gonna bring eggman back, do it in 5 or something more creative. I know he's just as important to the sonic series as sonic himself and Jim absolutely crushes the role, but let's give the guy at least a one movie break. I'm really hoping we get a heroes/CD adaptation next movie and maybe having Agent Stone take over Robotnik's plans. There's so much potential for these movies and I'm here all the way!
Also, one more note. The eclipse cannon was powered by essentially a hamster on a wheel. Just throwing that out there.
I just LOVED the references, specifically the biolizard
I dont think egg man is dead >
Snively? Metarex?
Based on the fact that Shadow survived in the post credits scenes, 05 has to eventually happen. However, I have a feeling that it’ll be drastically different from the original game. It’s probably because this version came from a meteor, which makes me think that Black Doom probably created Shadow without any help (unlike the games) and that Shadow probably was a scout for Black Doom this entire time. I also have the feeling that Shadow will probably be manipulated into an even worse situation than what happened in the game because of him coming from a meteor, and that Gerald wasn’t the one that created him: probably leaving him to fend for himself in the upcoming Black Arms event. I also have the feelings that Gerald probably didn’t leave the note for Shadow to make the right judgement on the Black Arms, which might make things even worse.
Seeing the eyes of Dr. Gerald Robotnik in the verge of tears when Maria died broke me.
Just got back from watching, so I'm not being spoiled.
The closest thing to someone that could take over from Eggman that I can think of are THE END and Dr. Starline.
THE END can endlessly reincarnate and is the literal antithesis to Chaos (the force not the character) and Sonic. It has no brethren and loves subjecting others to harm and death. Also, given its propensity for simple but devastating plans, manipulation, and capability to hijack and mutate machines alongside its goals of reducing all of existence to nothing it'd be very easy to have it as the overarching antagonist. Plus, it having beef with Sonic and taking it out on Movie Sonic sadistically would be dastardly hilarious and wonderful.
Starline could have seen Eggman's livestream, looked into him, and taken his inspiration to make Surge and Kit; the fact Sonic is a KNOWN figure legendary for his speed would also help with that. Heck, maybe the Warp Topaz overload warped Starline into the movie universe when he was about to die by rubble!
The body kill count in this movie was pretty crazy, as well as the swearing. Also, this film actually had horror movie elements with jump scares during one scene that starts as a reference to Knuckles being freaked out by ghosts like King Boom Boo from Sonic Adventure 2. I both love and hate that part of the movie. I love it because it’s sinister, and it makes Shadow both awesome and terrifying. But I also hate it because Sonic is meant for kids, and it shouldn’t really try to scare them, and I also hate jump scares. Horror movies are my phobia, so when I got to the jump scares in this movie, like the moment when a broken pipe bursts out steam, it legitimately almost gave me a heart attack because of how much I did not expect jump scares to be in Sonic.
it was not that scary mate
Mephiles could work as kind of a background villain. Someone who is manipulating other villains to do his dirty work and waits for the right moment to strike on his own. That's kind of what he what he was in Sonic 06
Metal Sonic would be totally fooled by “the iblis trigger” thing.
okay regarding the ending:
if Shadow’s alive, then he could’ve saved Eggman too because we see how he’s kinda cool with him. would explain Metal sonic too
This movie was fantastic
I wasn’t too surprised by amy
But metal sonic made me scream my heart out
So I do actually agree this is the best spot to end things on for Robotnik but metal sonic has to come from somewhere right?
It was stated by Gerald that the cannon ran on chaos energy and while it was never properly used in the movie, chaos control is a teleportation power. So what if the explosion was just a destructive teleportation. Robotnik also did still have that sonic quill on hand. My personal theory is that Robotnik was transported to Sonic’s original world where he built metal sonic and stuff happens there which is why Amy is suddenly coming to Earth likely to find Sonic. I do genuinely think the best way to avoid reversing Eggman’s arc is for Metal Sonic to be the big bad taking over Robotnik’s operation. This would also be a great way of giving the characters a reason to leave Earth. Of course I would personally love if Robotnik was kept dead since that’s something the games can’t do and is a great way to conclude his story.
Not sure if anyone noticed this, but when Maria & Shadow are watching a movie on TV the monster of the movie was the BIO-LIZARD.
I feel like they are going to throw us a curve ball and bring in Eggman Nega from another timeline or whatever.
I've never had a movie do me like this. I went numb. I think i was in shock.
Everyone in the auditorium absolutely freaked out when Amy was revealed.
Also, fourth Sonic movie has now been confirmed and will be releasing some time in spring of 2027.
Haven't watch the video and I won't until I see Sonic 3, I just clicked because I want to say, man, I love the name you choosed for the video!
I personally think it's entirely possible that because Shadow and Eggman were working together at the end it's entirely possible that since Shadow survived he may have grabbed Eggman on his way out of the explosion
As far is Eggman is concerned, it could be possible they could use an alternative version of Eggman from another universe like they did in the Archie comics. Not quite on the same level of Jim Carry’s Eggman but still just as entertaining. Or they could go the IDW route and introduce a character like Dr. Starline who idolizes Eggman and tries to emulate him. If tails could find and monitor Sonic from across the universe, I am sure someone would do the same for Eggman.
13:09 What do you mean twice???? I don't understand, like, the music plays and then it repeats itself?
It plays two versions from what I heard.
It plays, then there's another scene, then it plays again
Spoilers below
When the Maria death scene happened, a guy in my theater started clapping. The 3 kids in the audience must've been so confused but I respect the man for having the balls to do it
While they changed Shadow's origin story, they did it justice which I appreciated. The whole, 50 years ago humans had a space colony and were experimenting on creating immortality with Doom's DNA wouldn't really make sense, since that would means 50 years ago humans had better tech than they do today. Gerald no longer being a biologist creating lifeforms also provides the reason for no Bio Lizard, although I still wish they had it if they were going to have a CGI battle anyways. While I did absolutely love the movie, I feel like it needed just...a few more minutes for Shadow to turn to the good side. Just a couple more scenes of him doubting destroying the earth, or having conflicting opinions with Gerald. I also feel like maybe he was a bit too buddy buddy at the end with Sonic, I wanted more of a reluctant team up rather than Shadow basically joining the Team and turning good guy (Which in hindsight...makes me kind of a dick, Shadow's suffered enough, let him have a family and friends screw it)
If robotnik died then who the hell created metal sonic?
maybe he secretly created metal sonic as a last resort if he ever died which is why he took sonic's quill in the middle of the movie?
which could set up metal sonic to actually have eggman's consciousness Ig
I think you can get away with having someone else build him, after all, he is just a robot based on Sonic.
Black Doom maybe? It's a bit of a stretch but that's really the only option I can see them using if Eggman doesn't return for the fourth movie
Stone
I don’t think Jim Carey ain’t coming back for sonic 4 cause he did say he wants to work with sonic movie team more
It so sad Dr. Robotnik sacrifice himself to save the world in the movie about jim gonna be retired for being a actor after the movie ended with him. Truly a legend and a hero in the end
Sonic being the one to convince shadow makes complete sense in a way seeing age parallels Sega has give to sonic and Maria especially the end of SXS Gens. this part is just fan canon but sonic represents hope and freedom and Amy represents kindness and comfort the best of humanity these traits are all shared by them and Maria.
23:13 YES!!!! YEEEEESSS!!!!
I don't know about you, but I thought this song NEEDED to be in the movie, seriously, I would even swap live and learn for it.
Guys should i bring a speaker into the theaters so when the final credits finish rolling i can just blast live and learn and the whole room starts singing in hype
please dont
Yeah I'm not watching because Sonic 3 is literally tomorrow
I guess Ritter was cast because they wanted someone with gravitas to replace Walters...which I guess means G.U.N. is going to continue to show up moving forward.
if Metal Knuckles and Tais Doll are in the sequel I will lose my mind in the best possible way
The fact that Sonic 3 could possibly be Jim Carrey’s last movie is crazy.
If he was willing to come back for two more movies he'll definitely come back for a third one
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Finally, the Great Battle Kukku XV's time to shine!
The Great Battle Kukku being voiced by William Dafoe would be a dream of mine.
I am not sure if you know Tekno the Canary from Sonic the Comic. I know originally in her backstory, she was forced to work for Eggman. But maybe in this continuity, she could work for the Grand Kukku. She gets a change of heart when she meets Amy.
On the part of Robotniks death, I think they'll go the route that Stone takes the mantle of Eggman
They could bring egg man back like the comics but I doubt that. Having his conscious put into a new body.
Tease Mephiles for Movie 6, but instead of wanting to unleash Solaris, he wants to unleash Chaos, build up to it. And as far as Movie 4, if Metal Sonic is from the Future, they could do a Eggman Nega and just have someone else play the character and have Nega be the one that built Metal and sent him back to the past, then because of time travel shenanigans, Mephiles becomes aware of Sonic and how he could mess with his plan
SA 1 Perfect Chaos fight but with all the characters ala Endgame style
I was thinking the buyer could return but I forgot knuckles got him crushed by a giant disco looking ball
Robotnik wasn't "redeemed" per se, he just discovered a small amount of humanity to save someone he cared about, but he still wants Earth to conquer. So, he may see the value of human life, but he's too much of an egomaniac to not want the universe to bow to him.
ngl i'd kill to see some starline and stone interactions in upcoming movies
Cant wait for more great content!
Man, that Rouge idea was stellar.
Not that its likely, but I'd go absolutely insane if they brought in Dr Starline as a temporary replacement for Eggmans role. I honestly believe he has immense potential with the right script
Don’t forget, we got “Damn” in this movie!
Agent Rockwell should've been Agent Topaz from Sonic X. and have the actor look JUST LIKE the anime topaz design.
it would make perfect sense. and more sense than having rouge there. cuz then you could bring back this human character in future movies ALONGSIDE rouge!
Yo pup the blood is actually non family on the phrase. Since it's the blood of the covenant.
I love spoilers but unfortunately I had a special deal with SEGA and got to see the movie early so now the spoilers mean nothing 😭
That being said, my biggest complaints before the movie was a lack of Rouge, Amy, and bio-lizard.
**Spoiler alert**
2/3 ain't bad.
Edit: holy shit, I went back to the leaked concept art for Sonic Movie 3 and Amy's outfit matches. On top of that she was supposed to be on the moon with Sonic instead of Shadow. I really wonder the Amy and Rouge version of the movie looks like because they're there in concept art so we completely know what they look like in the movie universe.
Edit 2: did you miss the Bio-Lizard cameo?