"You put your knife with a fork and a spoon and it seems innocuous. Perhaps you travel with a wife and a child for the same reason." One of the most concise and compelling analogies ever. Brilliant writing.
@@JeromeGentes I was given the Pasternak novel as a birthday gift by my wife. I still have the book. I just couldn't go past the first few pages, especially the Russian names. I am going to try to read that book again. It wasn't the books' fault, for sure. It is a masterpiece from what I understand. And this movie is one of my top ten favorites--if I can ever have top ten favorites.
Omar Sharif once said in an interview that he felt bad because for commercial reasons the script had been changed from the true spirit of Pasternak's book - In Doctor Zhivago (the book) the main character never says clearly whether he is for or against the Revolution. Like the author Boris Pasternak, Zhivago is sitting between two chairs. This applies to his relationships with women as well. After Lara left with Komarovsky he went back to Moscow where he lived with Marina and had 2 more daughters. Supposedly Lara was the great love of his life !!!! I have read Doctor Zhivago 20 + times, I know it almost by heart. Great litterature.
What a wonderful movie, even though it leaves you with a melancholy feeling. I wish this movie was required for every college graduate, along with Omar's other movie, Lawrence of Arabia.
@@eddarby469 yes I agree with you. People these days have no idea what they are missing. I live in a country where Spider man rules even for so called grownups.
Yes, the concept that the personal life is dead is challenged by the author in the novel through numerous personal encouters that challenged Strelnikov's statement about the personal life.
What a movie What a period And what a writer . BORIS PASTERNAK WHAT A MAN !!! I WAS IN COLLEGE ,ST JOSEPH'S, BANGALORE My Professor , spoke about the book , the author, and the movie effusively!!! Saw the movie It has stuck with me since then More than 55 years The book and the movie has made a great affect on my Life They are that powerful
One of the greatest love novels/films I’ve ever watched and read, it’s extraordinary and brings out so many emotions I have not seen in a long time. The ending especially breaks my heart seeing him die trying to run to the love of his life. I just like to imagine what would have happened if they had met the first time they saw each other back on that train in Moscow all the way at the beginning.
Dr. Zhivago projected the early loss of his mother onto Lara. Director David Lean makes that clear when Lara's theme is played at a dramatic moment at his mother's funeral long before Lara ever appears in the film.
There is a trolley scene early on in the film when both get on board but I don't think they see each other. Rather, director David Lean gives the trolley the sound of a loud electric spark that analogizes the combustible chemistry that will surface between Dr. Zhivago and Lara later on.
@@annakimborahpaYes....I had forgotten that, sort of.....but not absolutely sure your analysis is right; it might be that now that his mother has passed away, in the future, his childlike love of his mom will be replaced by the love of Lara, in his adulthood.
Fencing masterclass then "Your point, their village!" Tom Courtney`s character ready to explode with anger, only now too disciplined to do so, even when the truth so strongly hurts. He stands and then glances down at the Dr. He looks enraged, embarrassed, and to me, looks like he`s going to be sick. Fantastic actor.
At 2:15, you can see how insecure he is in his face. He re-emphasizes it when he says "the personal life is dead...for a man...with any manhood." Lara's affair with Komarovsky permanently undermined his masculinity. That's why he re-emphasizes the point. Beware of resentment.
Komarovsky when compared to Strelnikov: "You compare me to that murderous neurotic?! When they took him away for execution, he kept insisting they'd call him Pasha. He grabbed a gun from the guards and blew his own brains out." >paraphrasing there.
@@peterjanssen5901 I'm sure he called him a neurotic the first time he came to warn them and told the story of his suicide the second time, when he took Lara and her daughter away. And I thought his insistance on his real name was meant to symbolise him trying to return from the depth he had sunk to, albeit too late.
I don’t think he was resentful, he was just insecure. To him, due to his insecurity, he always thought that love was something which had to be earned, and so he kept pushing himself to achieve greatness no matter the cost. Which is tragic because we’d like to think meritocracy should prevail for everything except when it comes to love. Pasha’s only failure was refusing to believe that something as important as love could be something you randomly bump into, or something you might be entitled to. Instead he thought it had to be earned.
He is not insecure...his earlier idealism has found a new direction...if you recall in the war...he lead his men to victory against all odds. That horrible experience stripped him of his humanity and gave him a new purpose which he found in the Bolshevik cause. As was said earlier of him...he is pure.
As soon as Yuri says 'Christmas, 6 years ago' Pasha's mask of coldness slips ever so slightly. He's desperately trying to be someone he isn't. He's a man who still loves his wife.
@@joanpeach8927 There's a bit on RUclips where Steiger talks about his doubts about his ability to talk and sound like an upper class Russian aristocrat. His fears were groundless as he does a brilliant job!
Thank you for pointing that out. Never noticed the 2 machine guns in the room. Also just noticed that the one to the rear of Zhivago has a full ammo belt, while the one next to Strelnikov has like only 1 bullet in every 5 spces of its belt. My Russian is non-existent, but "Strzelnica" means 'gun" in Polish. ps. further proof that the movie director is responsible for every single item that appears on the screen.
They always stuck out to me. Even the little detail of the empty belts coming out indicating they've been used recently. I wish more people were aware of what happens when they get swept away with political fervor intolerant of differing opinions.
@@douglaswhite7328 strelnikov just means 'the shooter' in russian. Its an actual nickname given to him, like many early bolsheviks had ie. Molotov, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky. His original name was pasha antipov i seem to remember
Yes, cost is a major factor plus finding an audience for 3 hour films isn’t easy, hence the rise of streaming platforms that can tell epic stories over multiple episodes
If you ever rent this movie make sure it's the full version. Three and a half hours I believe. The condensed version is even missing a lot of the famous soundtrack.
@@mikeg2491 Commenting on social media has been ruined now; the fun has been taken out of it. I understand the reasoning when comments become abusive. But not when it’s sunk to the point that you haven’t done anything wrong, you just have an opinion that the service providers doesn’t agree with, or are deemed to have used those Orwellian ‘un words’ it’s a poor show. A couple of weeks ago, I even had one removed after commenting on a video about some pigeons. Pathetic.
@@catthomas3097 Ive been A Marxist, a Black one, since 1970. Working decades in a factory only reinforced and conformed it. Especially in regards to what Lenin fought for. A revolutionary vanguard party.
Oh, this episode was closed too early. The arc of suspense does not end inside the wagon. When Zhivago is walking away from the train the camera turns to a window through which Strelnikow is looking after him... his face gets convulsed by an impulse of anger: looks like he feels that Zhivago is right in insisting of having a life even in war time.
Also Polya tells Zhivago that he is lucky. Normally Strelnikov kills anyone that challenges, confronts or is brought to him without the correct answers.
@@thomast8539 That is _exactly_ the moment _I_ wanted to see - when Polya mutters affably, "_You're_ lucky ..." as he sees Zhivago off after accompanying Zhivago a short distance.
Strelnikov is a resentful, failed intellectual, and his resentment fueled his violence. But I think he spared Zhivago due to his being an intellectual also.
He soared Zhivago because Zhivago is portrayed as a “perfect” man. Non violent. Loves his kids. Whilst he cheats, he loves both women with no hostility.
@@cheeseandonions9558 he’s just an effeminate loser. Attempts to reclaim his masculinity through extreme acts of violence. The world is full of them. Petty vain people. And everyone’s goal should be to keep them frustrated. Because when they get power they’re tyrants.
He said he didn't like the long waiting time on set during the filming of scenes for Dr. Zhivago and decided afterwards to pursue acting full time on stage.
@@nneq2229 stop with your religious bigotry, you know well Omar al-Sharif is a Christian (Omar is not even his real name) and he converted to Islam only because he fell in love with an Arab girl and per the reactionary laws it's not allowed for a Christian to marry a Muslim unless he converts. So religion was his least concern and he did it just for the sake of love.
@N Tte3es رح احكي معاك عربي لأنك من الواضح عربي. اول شي شكرا على مجموعة الدواب اللي نصحتني فيها، الحمدلله ولا واحد فيهم يعنيلي اي شيء. تاني شي، انت تعرف تماما انه دخل الإسلام من باب حبه لفاتن حمامة و ليس من باب القناعة و لا احد يجرئ على الردة علناً. على كل الاحوال، الله اعلم ما في الصدور و هذا شيء بينه و بين ربه و نترحم عليه لأعماله العظيمة بغض النظر عن دينه او عقيدته.
What a great moment 3:12 when the commander had to swell nervously because someone told him that he did something wrong -- it seems like Zhivago touched his bad conscience
The scene immediately following this, as Zhivago is being led from the train, he looks back and he sees the commander look at him and then turn away as if in tears
When you think of what kind of anger and resentment starts a revolution then you understand those who lead it as being probably insecure in their new role. Once holding no power and suddenly having the power to decide life and death at a whim. Pangs of humanity must still lurk beneath the surface.
**NEWS FLASH** The book "1984" by George Orwell is once again a BEST SELLER, 70 years after its initial publication. (People KNOW what's happening !) See NY Times article: www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/books/1984-george-orwell-donald-trump.html
home dreams mate, I don’t really want to have this discussion with yet another impressionable teenager, but I’ll tell you this much: the “cultural Marxism” narrative is dishonest, obfuscating and only part of a shameless grift. Jordan Peterson is a hack.
Historically, he's correct. In times of revolution and civil war the private life of those most committed on both sides of the conflict take a back seat to the earth shattering events taking place. He's right. The American Revolution. The Civil War. The character, by the way, was a thinly veiled Leon Trotsky. The founder of the Red Army and famous for travelling from front to front (21 fronts stretching over thousands of miles) during the Russian Civil War in his armored train to motivate and lead the Red Army. At the time the book (1956) and movie came out (1965), Trotsky was a pariah in Soviet society. Mere mention of his name during the Great Terror of the 1930's meant a trip to a gulag.
@@jaysonbiggs8979 Funny. I remember growing up in the USSR in the 70s/80s and I recall being told the revolution was never ending. Not until all workers of the world are free comrade. Great excuse for them to put a boot on my face.
I always thought that Strelnikov was based on Leon Trotsky too. He was one of Lenin's favorite commanders but once Lenin died Stalin targeted him and he went into exile, and eventually Stalin had him murdered in Mexico.
There’s some serious resemblances to this scene and a couple of scenes from Inglorious Basterds. Even if Tarantino did or did not get inspired by this, he definitely captured the same intensity in such a beautiful way. ❤️
Pasha Antipov is a reminder to be kind to everyone! If you remember in Dr. Zhivago he was a nobody in the beginning but after the Russian revolution, he became a somebody and went after all the people who did him wrong.
"Take him away, he is innocent." "What's that, comrade?" "I said innocent." "I know, I just have never heard those words come out of a soviet officer before."
@@blazecallahan6256 Pure projection. Leftoids intend on putting every straight White man's head on a pike. That's why you leave us no choice but to do unto others before they do unto us. But you already knew that - you just hope that feeding the crocodile will mean it eats you last. Pathetic and shameful.
They cut the scene a little short. The point of it is to show two different views as to how to live one's life. Zhivago has a winning argument. They should have shown Strelnikov's futile sneer of contempt after Zhivago leaves.
I absolutely love this scene in the movie. Brilliantly acted by Omar Sharif and Tom Courtney. Strelnikov is a complicated man behind the cruel and brutal facade.
What a great film scene: well written, well acted, shot and edited as only David Lean could. And the cinematography was stunningly beautiful, with the horrors of Russian civil war set against the backdrop of the natural wonders of Russia. The movie is a masterpiece.
Strelnikov is Leon Trotsky ---commander of the Red Army during the civil war, 1917-1920. Trotski was famous for affecting a black leather coat and running around on an armoured train. He was Lenin's fair haired boy until Lenin's stroke, then Trotski faced Stalin as his enemy and scarcely ever won another significant political battle. Stalin had him cashiered from the Communist Party, expelled from Moscow and then from Russia altogether. Ultimately, Stalin had Trotsky assassinated in Mexico in 1940. Hundreds of thousands of people were executed by Stalin because they were thought to have had some connection to Trotsky or his ideas at some time. It didn't pay to get on Stalin's bad side.
T. Courteney, could have also played Dmitriy Shostakovitch. Just by wearing a suit & a tie, he would have been his "spitting image". Same hair styling, same glasses. Undoubtedly, a composer is a more popular figure than Strelnikov.
"Just live." You know, Lean was so clever. Before this scene, when they stopped the train and were walking around in the snow, Tonya tells Sasha they were going through the mountains and into the forest and it would be much warmer. Sasha asks her, "Will there be wolves in the forest?" She doesn't answer but Strelnikov's train comes blasting past them on another track as the people shout "Strelnikov!" Lean answered Sasha's question.
Fine actors hitting their highest marks. Omar's Zhivago is the Everyman confronted by Tom Courtney's New Soviet Man. The incomprehension is total. Lean it his most savage.
2:40 You would think he would want to see his wife after his wife's been looking for him all these years. But then again he says that the private life is dead.
His wife betrayed and emasculated him. He probably would have found it cathartic to raze the town where she was living. Strelnikov has poured all his frustration and resentment into the Revolution - he joins the army to get away from Lara because he can't stand to live with her after what she's done.
I actually think this is the saddest scene in the movie… a good man like Pierre Bezukhov In war and peace made bad by the ideology and events of his time
Strelnikov's character transformation was very interesting. During the Tsar's time, before he came to power, "they were running over women and children," and when he came to power, he burned people's villages.
I just gets better and better and better with age...though it won an Oscar Bolt's screenplay is not as highly regarded as I think as it should be: it is one of the great adaptations committed to film. As for the others: Lean, Young, Savage, Box, Dalton, Jarre, Sharif, Steiger, Christie, Chaplin, Courtney, Richardson, et al...just non pareil all round
@@monichat so was Hitler but it doesnt mean they werent mentally unstable sociopaths. Hence why 20 million people died in the USSR during the so called "Great revolution."
> All good Bolsheviks/Communists were tough as nails, and ready to kill at the drop of a hat. Remember Yevgrav? "I've killed better men than me with a small pistol."
It was entertainment back in the 80's on late night tv. Now people use it as a narrative for how similar life is today to revolutionary times back then. Someone waiting for a spark ? Sounds like many people are....
The private man is dead history has killed him , this Bolshevik is a prototype of the New Man - Soviet Man that would replace the private man.This an important scene in the movie. The carnage continues throughout the movie as did for the entire Stalinist era.The last scene at the hydro electric dam is what is supposed to be the progress that made the Revolution and all the sacrifices worthwhile .Only one detail was inaccurate if the Soviets had known ,that girl was the daughter of counter-revolutionaries, she would not have been allowed to live .
Anyone seen Billy Liar? 1963. Black and white. Monochrome to be a smartarse. Keith Waterhouse wrote it. Courtney is the star and Julie Christie is cool.
That is partly true. Everyone has a private life. You would go insane if you didn't. Trotsky and Lenin had private lives in the midst of the Civil War. However, inn times of civil war and revolution the private life of the individual is secondary to the events taking place.
Great clip. Great movie. Important book. Burning the village because they sold horses to the Whites is the policy directed by then head of the Red Army Leon Trotsky. Red Terror. Had the Whites stolen the horses from the village Red Army policy was that the village still be burned. Several people I've known held the idea that Trotsky was 'the good Bolshevik' and 'if only' he had he gained power in the USSR, instead of Stalin, everything would've been better. At this point in the Russian Civil War, I don't think Stalin had committed mass murder; clearly Trotsky had. I've got a copy of the University of Michigan 'first' edition of Dr Zhivago (in Russian.) The U.S. Government paid for this printing. Copies of this edition were given to Soviet citizens at an international conference. They immediately started ripping off the covers and breaking the sections down so they could smuggle them back into the USSR. Trotsky burned villages, Stalin made the Gulag, crushed Hitler; Boris Pasternak wrote a book.... and David Lean made a movie.
You forget about the White Terror that started about a year earlier than the Red Terror, and was equally as brutal. The Whites were not some 'noble' faction, they wanted all control over Russia too
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"You put your knife with a fork and a spoon and it seems innocuous. Perhaps you travel with a wife and a child for the same reason." One of the most concise and compelling analogies ever. Brilliant writing.
It was also the plot of We're the Millers. Not that deep.
It's worth reading the original if you haven't. The scenes Pasternak composed between Pasha and Yuri are the best in the world of the book.
@@JeromeGentes I was given the Pasternak novel as a birthday gift by my wife. I still have the book. I just couldn't go past the first few pages, especially the Russian names. I am going to try to read that book again. It wasn't the books' fault, for sure. It is a masterpiece from what I understand. And this movie is one of my top ten favorites--if I can ever have top ten favorites.
You put your knife with a fork and a spoon and it looks quite innocuous. Perhaps you travel with a wife and a child for the same reason."
you mean hide in plain sight?
Another David Lean masterpiece of movie making. Omar Sharif should of won a Oscar for this role as well. I never tire of watching this movie...
Omar Sharif once said in an interview that he felt bad because for commercial reasons the script had been changed from the true spirit of Pasternak's book - In Doctor Zhivago (the book) the main character never says clearly whether he is for or against the Revolution. Like the author Boris Pasternak, Zhivago is sitting between two chairs.
This applies to his relationships with women as well. After Lara left with Komarovsky he went back to Moscow where he lived with Marina and had 2 more daughters. Supposedly Lara was the great love of his life !!!!
I have read Doctor Zhivago 20 + times, I know it almost by heart. Great litterature.
What a wonderful movie, even though it leaves you with a melancholy feeling. I wish this movie was required for every college graduate, along with Omar's other movie, Lawrence of Arabia.
@@eddarby469 yes I agree with you. People these days have no idea what they are missing.
I live in a country where Spider man rules even for so called grownups.
"Should have"
Should have won an Oscar, not should of
One of the most important . . . and poetic . . . conversations in all of cinema. What great actors, what a great scene!
Yes, the concept that the personal life is dead is challenged by the author in the novel through numerous personal encouters that challenged Strelnikov's statement about the personal life.
The acting in this scene is brilliant. Wonderful screen writing as well.
And also nonsense. A complete mis-representation of what life in the Soviet Union was like.
I have heard that argument, David, but nonetheless a great scene to learn something about parts of human nature, anyway.
Agreed! I love this scene and watch it every now again. Tom Courtney at his best. My favourite film of all time.
"Your point. Their village." That's a killer. One of my favorite lines in movie history
Made full 5 years before the My Lai massacre.
@@cheeseandonions9558 And after thousands of such massacres in history, all over the world.
Followed by, "Take him away, he's innocent."
Absolutely...I just posted that on FB and making the same comment. Excellent.
He could have lost his head (literally speaking) for that. Imagine one of Kim Jong Un’s subjects telling him that.
What a movie
What a period
And what a writer . BORIS PASTERNAK
WHAT A MAN !!!
I WAS IN COLLEGE ,ST JOSEPH'S, BANGALORE
My Professor , spoke about the book , the author, and the movie effusively!!!
Saw the movie
It has stuck with me since then
More than 55 years
The book and the movie has made a great affect on my Life
They are that powerful
"Your point, their village."
Kissinger's point your life
What a brilliant piece of acting, a truly great movie.
Tom Courtenay is brilliant in this scene, a tremendously convincing performance. Sir Tom is a great actor.
One of the greatest love novels/films I’ve ever watched and read, it’s extraordinary and brings out so many emotions I have not seen in a long time. The ending especially breaks my heart seeing him die trying to run to the love of his life. I just like to imagine what would have happened if they had met the first time they saw each other back on that train in Moscow all the way at the beginning.
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I don't recall that at all. Can you describe it so I can go back and see it?
You have painted it so beautifully
Dr. Zhivago projected the early loss of his mother onto Lara. Director David Lean makes that clear when Lara's theme is played at a dramatic moment at his mother's funeral long before Lara ever appears in the film.
There is a trolley scene early on in the film when both get on board but I don't think they see each other. Rather, director David Lean gives the trolley the sound of a loud electric spark that analogizes the combustible chemistry that will surface between Dr. Zhivago and Lara later on.
@@annakimborahpaYes....I had forgotten that, sort of.....but not absolutely sure your analysis is right; it might be that now that his mother has passed away, in the future, his childlike love of his mom will be replaced by the love of Lara, in his adulthood.
Strelnikovs words are more relevant today than ever
Yes history has killed the private life in America… I think about that every day
Sadly but true.
Correct unfortunately
Truly haunting and deeply philosophical scene. One of the greatest in film history
Fencing masterclass then "Your point, their village!" Tom Courtney`s character ready to explode with anger, only now too disciplined to do so, even when the truth so strongly hurts. He stands and then glances down at the Dr. He looks enraged, embarrassed, and to me, looks like he`s going to be sick. Fantastic actor.
At 2:15, you can see how insecure he is in his face. He re-emphasizes it when he says "the personal life is dead...for a man...with any manhood." Lara's affair with Komarovsky permanently undermined his masculinity. That's why he re-emphasizes the point. Beware of resentment.
Komarovsky when compared to Strelnikov: "You compare me to that murderous neurotic?! When they took him away for execution, he kept insisting they'd call him Pasha. He grabbed a gun from the guards and blew his own brains out."
>paraphrasing there.
@@peterjanssen5901 I'm sure he called him a neurotic the first time he came to warn them and told the story of his suicide the second time, when he took Lara and her daughter away. And I thought his insistance on his real name was meant to symbolise him trying to return from the depth he had sunk to, albeit too late.
I don’t think he was resentful, he was just insecure. To him, due to his insecurity, he always thought that love was something which had to be earned, and so he kept pushing himself to achieve greatness no matter the cost. Which is tragic because we’d like to think meritocracy should prevail for everything except when it comes to love. Pasha’s only failure was refusing to believe that something as important as love could be something you randomly bump into, or something you might be entitled to. Instead he thought it had to be earned.
He is not insecure...his earlier idealism has found a new direction...if you recall in the war...he lead his men to victory against all odds. That horrible experience stripped him of his humanity and gave him a new purpose which he found in the Bolshevik cause. As was said earlier of him...he is pure.
@@markseslstorytellerchannel3418 Fair enough I stand corrected
Happy 85th Birthday Tom Courtenay
Tom Courtney was a terrific actor. He plays the part of Sasha/Strelnikov very well. But then, the acting in this entire film was so very good.
As soon as Yuri says 'Christmas, 6 years ago' Pasha's mask of coldness slips ever so slightly. He's desperately trying to be someone he isn't. He's a man who still loves his wife.
And Rod Steiger said he had misgivings being the only American actor, but they had asked him.
@@peg202xo7 Exactly. He WANTS the personal life to be dead so he won't have to face his own.
@@joanpeach8927 There's a bit on RUclips where Steiger talks about his doubts about his ability to talk and sound like an upper class Russian aristocrat. His fears were groundless as he does a brilliant job!
I've seen this scene a million times. But the machine gun sitting between them in the shot just struck me today.
A brilliant touch
Thank you for pointing that out. Never noticed the 2 machine guns in the room. Also just noticed that the one to the rear of Zhivago has a full ammo belt, while the one next to Strelnikov has like only 1 bullet in every 5 spces of its belt. My Russian is non-existent, but "Strzelnica" means 'gun" in Polish. ps. further proof that the movie director is responsible for every single item that appears on the screen.
They always stuck out to me. Even the little detail of the empty belts coming out indicating they've been used recently. I wish more people were aware of what happens when they get swept away with political fervor intolerant of differing opinions.
@@douglaswhite7328 strelnikov just means 'the shooter' in russian. Its an actual nickname given to him, like many early bolsheviks had ie. Molotov, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky. His original name was pasha antipov i seem to remember
Strenlikov never blinks in this scene.
Truly Movies like this won't be made again.
They had a chance with Conclave, instead it is a Woke mess.
Yes, cost is a major factor plus finding an audience for 3 hour films isn’t easy, hence the rise of streaming platforms that can tell epic stories over multiple episodes
You're wrong. What about Meet the Fockers?
Not enough talent for todays actors too busy taking their pants off !
If you ever rent this movie make sure it's the full version. Three and a half hours I believe. The condensed version is even missing a lot of the famous soundtrack.
Right, the 2 disc DVD is the way to go
He's exactly like the creepiest guy you could possibly find on social media at any given time.
He's based
Probably works for Google now.
@@joshcastro739 Absolutely not
@@oleggorky906Nah he’s a reddit mod
@@mikeg2491 Commenting on social media has been ruined now; the fun has been taken out of it.
I understand the reasoning when comments become abusive. But not when it’s sunk to the point that you haven’t done anything wrong, you just have an opinion that the service providers doesn’t agree with, or are deemed to have used those Orwellian ‘un words’ it’s a poor show.
A couple of weeks ago, I even had one removed after commenting on a video about some pigeons. Pathetic.
Nothing but respect for the Tom Courtney character. Loosely based on Leon Trotsky, the commander of the Red Army.
I have no respect for a Marxist.
kyokogodai stop being a child
@@kyokogodai-ir6hy I used to be a marxist, then i saw the light and now i am a libertarian and conservative
Cat thomas you didn’t see the light, you changed a dead religion for an alive one
@@catthomas3097 Ive been A Marxist, a Black one, since 1970.
Working decades in a factory only reinforced and conformed it. Especially in regards to what Lenin fought for. A revolutionary vanguard party.
What a powerful scene.
And chilling.
There are movies and then there is Dr zhivago
🙏
Deciphered for the Americans ...."Doctor Chicago"
There are actors, and then there is Omar Sharif.
Oh, this episode was closed too early. The arc of suspense does not end inside the wagon. When Zhivago is walking away from the train the camera turns to a window through which Strelnikow is looking after him... his face gets convulsed by an impulse of anger: looks like he feels that Zhivago is right in insisting of having a life even in war time.
Also Polya tells Zhivago that he is lucky. Normally Strelnikov kills anyone that challenges, confronts or is brought to him without the correct answers.
Sakiz hhaniim
His face betrays the fact that he still loves Lara, he resents the fact that Zhivago made him realize that fact.
@@thomast8539 That is _exactly_ the moment _I_ wanted to see - when Polya mutters affably, "_You're_ lucky ..." as he sees Zhivago off after accompanying Zhivago a short distance.
Pasha certainly changed drastically, he started out as a very sweet young man, yet became a killer!
Strelnikov is a resentful, failed intellectual, and his resentment fueled his violence. But I think he spared Zhivago due to his being an intellectual also.
He soared Zhivago because Zhivago is portrayed as a “perfect” man. Non violent. Loves his kids. Whilst he cheats, he loves both women with no hostility.
Strenikov is a failed poet...
@@cheeseandonions9558 he’s just an effeminate loser. Attempts to reclaim his masculinity through extreme acts of violence.
The world is full of them. Petty vain people. And everyone’s goal should be to keep them frustrated. Because when they get power they’re tyrants.
We all perform the roles we didn't really choose, but we try to perform them as best as we can...
Strelnikov was a poet, also I believe Zhivago's frankness in the way he spoke to him saved him and established his innocence.
Classic dialogue. Personal life is dead for a man with any manhood. Can't help to watch this again and again.
Boris Pasternak never wrote that the private life is dead in Russia. Ridiculous dialogue.
If I recall in this scene, the guard took him out and said "your a lucky bastard".
Script written by a british capitalist
I was waiting for that. Cut too soon.
Tom Courtnay didn't make enough movies.
He said he didn't like the long waiting time on set during the filming of scenes for Dr. Zhivago and decided afterwards to pursue acting full time on stage.
What about Billy Liar?
Omar sharif is a great actor ❤
Was
@@jaysonbiggs8979 You have to read about islam and im proud to be muslim
@@nneq2229 stop with your religious bigotry, you know well Omar al-Sharif is a Christian (Omar is not even his real name) and he converted to Islam only because he fell in love with an Arab girl and per the reactionary laws it's not allowed for a Christian to marry a Muslim unless he converts.
So religion was his least concern and he did it just for the sake of love.
@N Tte3es رح احكي معاك عربي لأنك من الواضح عربي.
اول شي شكرا على مجموعة الدواب اللي نصحتني فيها، الحمدلله ولا واحد فيهم يعنيلي اي شيء.
تاني شي، انت تعرف تماما انه دخل الإسلام من باب حبه لفاتن حمامة و ليس من باب القناعة و لا احد يجرئ على الردة علناً.
على كل الاحوال، الله اعلم ما في الصدور و هذا شيء بينه و بين ربه و نترحم عليه لأعماله العظيمة بغض النظر عن دينه او عقيدته.
Yes, he was
What a great moment 3:12 when the commander had to swell nervously because someone told him that he did something wrong -- it seems like Zhivago touched his bad conscience
The scene immediately following this, as Zhivago is being led from the train, he looks back and he sees the commander look at him and then turn away as if in tears
When you think of what kind of anger and resentment starts a revolution then you understand those who lead it as being probably insecure in their new role. Once holding no power and suddenly having the power to decide life and death at a whim. Pangs of humanity must still lurk beneath the surface.
0:52 I love the crackling of his jacket as he leans in, adding so much tension to the scene.
His only crime...was feeling.
this is excellent
Equilibrium
And the Private , Personal Life is indeed really DEAD in the age of intrusive technology and social surrender of individuality.
**NEWS FLASH**
The book "1984" by George Orwell is once again a BEST SELLER, 70 years after its initial publication. (People KNOW what's happening !) See NY Times article:
www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/books/1984-george-orwell-donald-trump.html
Well put S.T.
Cultural Marxism. Constant intrusion.
home dreams mate, I don’t really want to have this discussion with yet another impressionable teenager, but I’ll tell you this much: the “cultural Marxism” narrative is dishonest, obfuscating and only part of a shameless grift. Jordan Peterson is a hack.
@@JordanCoggburn Is that like cultural bolshevism?
Historically, he's correct. In times of revolution and civil war the private life of those most committed on both sides of the conflict take a back seat to the earth shattering events taking place. He's right. The American Revolution. The Civil War.
The character, by the way, was a thinly veiled Leon Trotsky. The founder of the Red Army and famous for travelling from front to front (21 fronts stretching over thousands of miles) during the Russian Civil War in his armored train to motivate and lead the Red Army.
At the time the book (1956) and movie came out (1965), Trotsky was a pariah in Soviet society. Mere mention of his name during the Great Terror of the 1930's meant a trip to a gulag.
@Help I'm A Rock
Not really. That's nonsensical.
@@jaysonbiggs8979 Funny. I remember growing up in the USSR in the 70s/80s and I recall being told the revolution was never ending. Not until all workers of the world are free comrade. Great excuse for them to put a boot on my face.
I always thought that Strelnikov was based on Leon Trotsky too. He was one of Lenin's favorite commanders but once Lenin died Stalin targeted him and he went into exile, and eventually Stalin had him murdered in Mexico.
@@JerryD121657 All true.
This is one of the most memorable scenes in the film. Tension between these two characters just crackles.
There’s some serious resemblances to this scene and a couple of scenes from Inglorious Basterds. Even if Tarantino did or did not get inspired by this, he definitely captured the same intensity in such a beautiful way. ❤️
Incredible acting. This film is a masterpiece.
Pasha Antipov is a reminder to be kind to everyone! If you remember in Dr. Zhivago he was a nobody in the beginning but after the Russian revolution, he became a somebody and went after all the people who did him wrong.
"Take him away, he is innocent."
"What's that, comrade?"
"I said innocent."
"I know, I just have never heard those words come out of a soviet officer before."
any more than officers of american military occupiers in afghanistan or iraq. despicable people are all alike.
🤣🤣
Soon appearing in a western state near you.
That's where we're headed with the MAGAts.
@@blazecallahan6256 Pure projection. Leftoids intend on putting every straight White man's head on a pike. That's why you leave us no choice but to do unto others before they do unto us. But you already knew that - you just hope that feeding the crocodile will mean it eats you last. Pathetic and shameful.
They cut the scene a little short. The point of it is to show two different views as to how to live one's life. Zhivago has a winning argument. They should have shown Strelnikov's futile sneer of contempt after Zhivago leaves.
Courtenay always played mousy little men, and played them well
What a fantastic movie!
Zhivago stood up to a man who could have him killed in an instant and never backed down.
Finally realized that Tom Courtenay reminds me a bit of Matthew Modine. They can both pull off such stern looks.
Joker from FMJ!
To me he reminds of David Soul in Magnum Force.
I can't believe this villainous character is still alive the actor not the character in the movie
The older I become the more I appreciate this acting . A masterpiece of cinema.
Probably in my top five favorite movies
My fav
“Your point, their village.” *WHAM*
Freddie Young together with David Lean were responsible for some of the most magnificence ever recorded on film.
Courtenay and Sharif appear again in night of the generals in different roles
I absolutely love this scene in the movie. Brilliantly acted by Omar Sharif and Tom Courtney. Strelnikov is a complicated man behind the cruel and brutal facade.
Patrick McGoohan watched this scene very closely.
What a great film scene: well written, well acted, shot and edited as only David Lean could. And the cinematography was stunningly beautiful, with the horrors of Russian civil war set against the backdrop of the natural wonders of Russia. The movie is a masterpiece.
Strelnikov is Leon Trotsky ---commander of the Red Army during the civil war, 1917-1920. Trotski was famous for affecting a black leather coat and running around on an armoured train.
He was Lenin's fair haired boy until Lenin's stroke, then Trotski faced Stalin as his enemy and scarcely ever won another significant political battle. Stalin had him cashiered from the Communist Party, expelled from Moscow and then from Russia altogether. Ultimately, Stalin had Trotsky assassinated in Mexico in 1940.
Hundreds of thousands of people were executed by Stalin because they were thought to have had some connection to Trotsky or his ideas at some time.
It didn't pay to get on Stalin's bad side.
Isn't it strange that Stalin never bothered Boris Pasternak -
What riveting acting!!
Wrong village was targeted. Mistakes matter.
They should have included a few more seconds where a soldier tells him: "You're lucky"........
One of the best films made.
One of the most powerful scenes in this wonderful movie: "I hate everything you say, but not enough to kill you for it!"
Creepiest Tom Courtenay role.
He did a great job.
あの頃の正義感に溢れる青年がいつの間にか、ストレイニコフとして政党のリーダーへ。
T. Courteney, could have also played Dmitriy Shostakovitch. Just by wearing a suit & a tie, he would have been his "spitting image". Same hair styling, same glasses. Undoubtedly, a composer is a more popular figure than Strelnikov.
"Just live." You know, Lean was so clever. Before this scene, when they stopped the train and were walking around in the snow, Tonya tells Sasha they were going through the mountains and into the forest and it would be much warmer. Sasha asks her, "Will there be wolves in the forest?" She doesn't answer but Strelnikov's train comes blasting past them on another track as the people shout "Strelnikov!" Lean answered Sasha's question.
the joke is, Tom Courtney looked more like the real TE in Lawrence of Arabia than O'Toole
Your point, their village
Fine actors hitting their highest marks. Omar's Zhivago is the Everyman confronted by Tom Courtney's New Soviet Man. The incomprehension is total. Lean it his most savage.
Two heavyweight actors, absolute legends
Omar Sharif is the greatest Egyptian actor
Both men didn't budge their views. Both were
courageous to do their view of the 'right' ding.
Superb.
2:40 You would think he would want to see his wife after his wife's been looking for him all these years. But then again he says that the private life is dead.
His wife betrayed and emasculated him. He probably would have found it cathartic to raze the town where she was living. Strelnikov has poured all his frustration and resentment into the Revolution - he joins the army to get away from Lara because he can't stand to live with her after what she's done.
@@CountArtha I doubt he did all this because of Lara. It wasn't just because of Lara. Let's not forget he had a daughter.
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Lara didn't have a child at the time of these fictional events. Later she had Yuri's child.
It was mentioned that he did try to find his wife near the end of the film.
‘Just Live’ - all Zhivago ever wanted to do..
I believe that the character "strelnikov" is for Pasternak a portmanteau of yezhov and beria ... two henchmen obsessed with pleasing stalin
Only a few handful of actors can say so much with their eyes. Omar Sharif has to say nothing and expresses so much.
Watch him in the earlier scene where the mounted dragons attack the peaceful demonstrators with sabers. His eyes say more than any words.
I really love a great film like that.
Zhivago should have said "Just survive."
To survive is not to live. The author conveys that life is a gift in the novel.
I actually think this is the saddest scene in the movie… a good man like Pierre Bezukhov In war and peace made bad by the ideology and events of his time
Strelnikov's character transformation was very interesting. During the Tsar's time, before he came to power, "they were running over women and children," and when he came to power, he burned people's villages.
yes, rather like democrats in LA.
Strelnikov reminds me of Starmer even his hair cut is the same
And so it goes...coming to an america near you.
Masterpiece.
''Take him away, he's innocent''. Wait wat...i would've said release him lol. Such a confusing order.
Zivago wasn't arrested but taken captive for interrogations by military Police as he was walking near Commander's Train.
I always like his last reply to "what he planned to do with his wife and kid?"........... " Just Live"
So personal. History has killed it. You're wrong. Absolutely correct
I just gets better and better and better with age...though it won an Oscar Bolt's screenplay is not as highly regarded as I think as it should be: it is one of the great adaptations committed to film. As for the others: Lean, Young, Savage, Box, Dalton, Jarre, Sharif, Steiger, Christie, Chaplin, Courtney, Richardson, et al...just non pareil all round
Loosely based on Trotsky. Head of the Red Army. Tough as nails.
Trotsky was a genius, just like the great Lenin
@@monichat so was Hitler but it doesnt mean they werent mentally unstable sociopaths. Hence why 20 million people died in the USSR during the so called "Great revolution."
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All good Bolsheviks/Communists were tough as nails, and ready to kill at the drop of a hat.
Remember Yevgrav? "I've killed better men than me with a small pistol."
Streknikov terror in the picture.
powerful film; performances superb
And to think that Dr. Zhivago treated his injuries after the march attacked by the Guards.
In fact... no.
Don't believe that is true. Zhivago tended to others, until he was warned to go inside, but not Pasha.
No, Zhivago treated others who were attacked, but Pasha got away and went to Lara’s and self-treated the scar on his face with iodine
Wrong. He never treated him at all.
The film of my Life.
It was entertainment back in the 80's on late night tv. Now people use it as a narrative for how similar life is today to revolutionary times back then. Someone waiting for a spark ? Sounds like many people are....
The private man is dead history has killed him , this Bolshevik is a prototype of the New Man - Soviet Man that would replace the private man.This an important scene in the movie. The carnage continues throughout the movie as did for the entire Stalinist era.The last scene at the hydro electric dam is what is supposed to be the progress that made the Revolution and all the sacrifices worthwhile .Only one detail was inaccurate if the Soviets had known ,that girl was the daughter of counter-revolutionaries, she
would not have been allowed to live .
who doesnt feel like Dr Zhivago nowadays after the Election of 2020?
Are you trying to say Buzz Windrump represented freedom?
It was good the cameras were running during Starmers last closed door cabinet meeting.
The Big Brother is watching you.
Anyone seen Billy Liar? 1963. Black and white. Monochrome to be a smartarse. Keith Waterhouse wrote it. Courtney is the star and Julie Christie is cool.
It's one of my favourite films
Phenomenal scene phenomenal movie
That is partly true. Everyone has a private life. You would go insane if you didn't. Trotsky and Lenin had private lives in the midst of the Civil War. However, inn times of civil war and revolution the private life of the individual is secondary to the events taking place.
Damn, Omar Sharif was so attractive.
And so many people want this sort of life for us over here, if only they had the power.
Great clip. Great movie. Important book. Burning the village because they sold horses to the Whites is the policy directed by then head of the Red Army Leon Trotsky. Red Terror. Had the Whites stolen the horses from the village Red Army policy was that the village still be burned. Several people I've known held the idea that Trotsky was 'the good Bolshevik' and 'if only' he had he gained power in the USSR, instead of Stalin, everything would've been better. At this point in the Russian Civil War, I don't think Stalin had committed mass murder; clearly Trotsky had.
I've got a copy of the University of Michigan 'first' edition of Dr Zhivago (in Russian.) The U.S. Government paid for this printing. Copies of this edition were given to Soviet citizens at an international conference. They immediately started ripping off the covers and breaking the sections down so they could smuggle them back into the USSR. Trotsky burned villages, Stalin made the Gulag, crushed Hitler; Boris Pasternak wrote a book.... and David Lean made a movie.
You forget about the White Terror that started about a year earlier than the Red Terror, and was equally as brutal. The Whites were not some 'noble' faction, they wanted all control over Russia too