Lionel’s HR is almost always lower than most which is bad ass but I think a bike Lactate threshold can be lower than running (at least it is for me). Lionel is a beast!!
Wheel circumference = .7m*pi= 2.2 meters per wheel rotation Multiplied by gear ration = 2.2m * 6.2 = 13.63 meters per pedal stroke Multiplied by RPM = 13.63*80 = 1091 meters per minute Multiplied by minutes per hour = 65.4 km/h Divided by kilometers per mile = 6.54/1.61 = 40.1mph. Math checks out.
"Can't get to the top anymore without help." So true! 2021 I did more group rides than ever before and I learned so much and improved much more than my years of solo cycling.
Lionel's maximum HR is in 160's, Phill's max HR is close to 200, HR digit itself doen't tell you anything, We can only see that Lionel's pump can stroke more blood for one beat and that's it
I'm a cyclist but I've been learning a lot watching your videos and seeing your process. You're a mad scientist. Love your thoughts on need a training partner. Good luck this season mate.
So cool that you are assisting Ari! Love your videos. Thanks again to both you and Erin for my phenomenal autographed photo posted in my pain cave - a consistent treasure of inspiration!
A low heart rate in isolation doesn't mean your fit obviously Lionel is incredibly so but there are plenty of amateurs who would have equally low heart rates but at much much lower outputs
@@jaychu3850 that comparing heart rate is pointless and means nothing without an output for comparison which is what the original point was and if you think it was anything else then it's your points that needed reconsideration
The bike chase sequence is probably one of my favorite video clips I have seen ever Having both a dedicated TT solo bike with a chasing hill climb bike is the perfect storm to witness To see the difference of a quick TT bike spec geared out with aero gear with the added bonus of seeing Sanders' insanely low heartrate he can manage to the drafting allowing a completely stripped down bike to just its bars to go just as fast with an even lower power output Obviously Sander's setup isn't completely top of the line optimized but still just an amazing powerhouse Sanders is to go along with it and you shouldn't be using TT aero bars in a group ride so this is why it was the perfect storm since it isn't supposed to make logical sense.
Two of my favs! Also need to comment on that running hat. I purchased it off your website recently at it is quality. The best running hat I have ever used. And got a bonus swim cap thrown in. :)
Enjoyed the vid, keep them coming. Glad to see you have Ari as a full time partner, I think it will help to elevate both your games. Like you said in the vid, all the top triathletes have training partners. I think now that you have your swim team and Ari, you will be an even greater threat to win. Best of luck in 2022!
I'm pretty sure it's based on saddle/TT position. That will tilt your hips way forward, so though the ankles may look extremely different when compared to the flat of the horizon, they're much more similar when compared to hip position.
Loved the video. Can you explain what you were doing at the end with the lactate check in a future video, please? Nice music. Oh yeah, you AND Heather Jackson are in Tucson. Any chance that you both can do a video together?? Thanks.
Lionels physique looks what some might call "rude level fit" haha (when you look so fit that even just standing near feels a bit obnoxious)...great video!
Jeez, those watts are unreal. 370-380 is about as much as I can hold for a few minutes /tops/, and they’re banging it out as a 10x10 threshold set? Yeesh! Guess that’s what happens when you’re one of the best in the world.
LS you and Sam Long need to get together and push each other. Ik there’s some subtle rivalry there. But when push comes to shove (like at Daytona on the bike) you worked together. And the sprint off at ST-G was another. You two put your differences aside and team up. The Norwegian’s and Jan don’t stand a chance.
Damn, aero bike or not this shows how badass Lionel is. Phil might be retired but he's absolutely no joke. Great to see them flying down the road
Yeah man! They are BEASTS!
Talbot Cox doing the lord's work with this edit. Much thanks!
Absolutely stunning footage.
That HR is ridiculous, I go over that yawning too hard.
Yeah, I don't understand how Lionel's HR is so low. I wonder what his range is.
And that is at threshold? I don't understand.
I guess his heart is HUGE, pumps a lot with each beat and doesn't rev very high.
Is actually over 170bpm. He has a Zwift race where he climbs alpe d'u zwift ANH his heart rate is over 170bpm.
Lionel’s HR is almost always lower than most which is bad ass but I think a bike Lactate threshold can be lower than running (at least it is for me). Lionel is a beast!!
See Erin all over that lactate- she's an absolute hero. Love that you're both just embracing this process 📈☀️
What is she doing???
Lactate from ear for data
This is gotta be THE BEST RUclips channel of a professional triathlete. I follow many but I LOVE THIS CHANNEL. I am wrong? I don't think so.
Wheel circumference = .7m*pi= 2.2 meters per wheel rotation
Multiplied by gear ration = 2.2m * 6.2 = 13.63 meters per pedal stroke
Multiplied by RPM = 13.63*80 = 1091 meters per minute
Multiplied by minutes per hour = 65.4 km/h
Divided by kilometers per mile = 6.54/1.61 = 40.1mph.
Math checks out.
Mad
.7m measured at the wheel. Bit bigger with tires on
I have measured road bike circumference to be around 2.1m
Awesome! Two of my favourite guys together in one RUclips video!
Was going to post the same thing!
Ari is on youtube too! Check out his channel and his beats
@@chinter yep, Ari is cool too. Just getting into his stuff 👍
"Can't get to the top anymore without help."
So true! 2021 I did more group rides than ever before and I learned so much and improved much more than my years of solo cycling.
The difference in HR on the intervals is wild. Great vid, both of you are excellent RUclipsrs. Going to Phil's video next!
I actually can't comprehend how lionel has a HR of 133 pushing 364 watts... like what?? 4:46
@@MaxwellORoark I too don't get it! His HR monitor must be broken!!
Lionel's maximum HR is in 160's, Phill's max HR is close to 200, HR digit itself doen't tell you anything, We can only see that Lionel's pump can stroke more blood for one beat and that's it
I'm a cyclist but I've been learning a lot watching your videos and seeing your process. You're a mad scientist. Love your thoughts on need a training partner. Good luck this season mate.
This is the collaboration we didn’t know we need. So awesome
Love these guys, great to see them chatting. Hopefully Lionel picked up some nuggets
The HR difference was unreal! Great combo videos for both of you.
So cool that you are assisting Ari! Love your videos. Thanks again to both you and Erin for my phenomenal autographed photo posted in my pain cave - a consistent treasure of inspiration!
Super dope video! Great content and really enjoyed the side by side data points. Keep em coming boys!
Dream collab, something tells me you guys will get along just fine hahaha
Is Lionel human? My goodness, his HR is just unreal.
A low heart rate in isolation doesn't mean your fit obviously Lionel is incredibly so but there are plenty of amateurs who would have equally low heart rates but at much much lower outputs
@@rotation-y2n nah dude amateurs performing this stuff would not have nearly as low of a HR, if you actually think so, find a handful fo them for me
@@alen-commentnazi8774 nope amateurs can have low max heart rates as well. Read my comment again
Huh? Low he at much much lower outputs? Yeah no kidding lol….what’s your point?
@@jaychu3850 that comparing heart rate is pointless and means nothing without an output for comparison which is what the original point was and if you think it was anything else then it's your points that needed reconsideration
This was one of your best uploads in a long time!
This is so motivating!! LOVE YOUR WORK LIONEL
The bike chase sequence is probably one of my favorite video clips I have seen ever
Having both a dedicated TT solo bike with a chasing hill climb bike is the perfect storm to witness
To see the difference of a quick TT bike spec geared out with aero gear with the added bonus of seeing Sanders' insanely low heartrate he can manage
to the drafting allowing a completely stripped down bike to just its bars to go just as fast with an even lower power output
Obviously Sander's setup isn't completely top of the line optimized but still just an amazing powerhouse Sanders is to go along with it and you shouldn't be using TT aero bars in a group ride so this is why it was the perfect storm since it isn't supposed to make logical sense.
See you in Kona in October! Great content guys 🙌
I love how every year you reinvent your approach to training with intent to learn and stay at the tip of the weapon. Good stuff!
This is the colab we didn't even know we needed
Great video! Please do more collaborations like this!
I like the attitude in the video. All the best for the season
Two of my favs! Also need to comment on that running hat. I purchased it off your website recently at it is quality. The best running hat I have ever used. And got a bonus swim cap thrown in. :)
Cool content - with some great statements (no secrets) of lionel. Thanks for sharing! :-)
Just F amazing edit Talbot! Thank you!
Enjoyed the vid, keep them coming. Glad to see you have Ari as a full time partner, I think it will help to elevate both your games. Like you said in the vid, all the top triathletes have training partners. I think now that you have your swim team and Ari, you will be an even greater threat to win. Best of luck in 2022!
This is a dream collab of mine thank you guys!
So awesome to have two guys i love in the same video!
Great point LS, about the companionship
you become more and more like a viking !! what is missing is altitude training
Great video and always such a good editing from Talbot.
Look at Lionel's ankle angle compared to Phil! Maybe the saddle really is too high. Or maybe that's his secret to ruling in bike 😀
Yeah, that comparison and difference was interesting to see
the other interesting comparsion was the stride lenght during the run
What crank length does Lionel Run? Maybe he's running 165 making it easy to have toes pointed down at 12 o'clock?
I'm pretty sure it's based on saddle/TT position. That will tilt your hips way forward, so though the ankles may look extremely different when compared to the flat of the horizon, they're much more similar when compared to hip position.
@Jeremiah Newport That's a really valid point and likely explains it
I can't wait to see how you go with your new training plan. Should be awesome
Wow. Great motivation...and I love those bumps, Talbot.
Lionel: let’s go 45 easy
Ari: So, carbon plated shoes, then?
Here from Phils channel!! Very interesting stuff!! Love to do the challenge of a Ironman...... ye are IRONMEN and women!!!!
riding at 375 watts at 130HR !? Man lionel is a machine
Would love to see you guys ride a climb together!
Man I've been itching for a new video. Keep hammerin buddy
Loved the video. Can you explain what you were doing at the end with the lactate check in a future video, please? Nice music. Oh yeah, you AND Heather Jackson are in Tucson. Any chance that you both can do a video together?? Thanks.
Interesting with the different cadences
Phil backs off when he sees a tri guy reach for a water bottle. Smart move!
Also, cadence difference is interesting.
More content!!! Can t get enough!!! More more more!!!
The discord is lit!
Clean collab, clean content x
The edit is like...YES! 👌
Ari, Phil and Lionel... Some tripod.
Limitless 🍪 with the 🦁 whats not to like :-)
131 heart rate at 300+ watts.....ok jeez
kudos to Phil, keeping up against a full TT bike ....while dangling a bar bag and all, lol!
Love the collab!!
Vote for mt lemon kom battle! Phil vs Lionel vs Sam
I saw from social media that Mr Lessing was in the area. Would of been very funny to have seen Simon pedal by on an easy ride :)
Lionel, are you using AeroCoach? How do you like it? Anyone know aerobar set up here?
Lionels physique looks what some might call "rude level fit" haha (when you look so fit that even just standing near feels a bit obnoxious)...great video!
Proper bike riders know it takes more skill to ride slowly than to ride fast.
The person being drafted actually gets a boost too because there is less drag pulling him backwards. I don't know how many watts that give Lionel.
Keep it up!
Great edit!
badass sustaining threshold power at a HR of 130!
Thats what we call the Lionel Train! :p
nice to see Ari as part of Team No Limits.
What a difference the wind can make in the average speed
Would love to see this guy do some World Tour TT’s
I am only here for Ari... ;-) great team, nice spirit, keep going you both!
He’s taking lactate and his Norwegian influence is showing!!
It always cracks me up to see how low Sanders’ heart rate is at threshold.
Lionel, its clear your injury affects your run stride. Do you have pelvic tilt or favor one side? Maybe a lift on one shoe may help balance you out.
Next collab with Lionel, Phil and Sam Long 🔥
Lionel do you think you were a gifted athlete before you became an athlete. in otherwords are fine tuning a gift right now with the hard work?
Gerçek bir ironman Lionel ---> The King
what is Lionels resting pulse? Like 5 or what?
131 bpm busting out 365 watts is crazy hahaha
Use me as the Ari like button.
Great vid✌️
Jeez, those watts are unreal. 370-380 is about as much as I can hold for a few minutes /tops/, and they’re banging it out as a 10x10 threshold set? Yeesh! Guess that’s what happens when you’re one of the best in the world.
love this one
LS you and Sam Long need to get together and push each other. Ik there’s some subtle rivalry there. But when push comes to shove (like at Daytona on the bike) you worked together. And the sprint off at ST-G was another. You two put your differences aside and team up. The Norwegian’s and Jan don’t stand a chance.
what a joke
Nice!
361w at 131 heart rate...anyone else feel like 2022 is Lionel's year?
You need to consider that his maxhr is pretty low
@@vozzen people still don’t get it. 🙄
@@vozzen well aware of Lionel's storied HR, still impressive
His into songs are 🔥🔥fire
How TF is your heart rate at 131 bpm pushing 363 watts????????? Superhuman!
Same as Eluid....teamwork
Incredible, Lionel's resting hr would be like 23
Lionel, what was your lactate on the big?
Where's the BTA hydration on the Canyon ?
Bottle on seat post costs watts and takes you out aero position
Impressive motoring with that low hr
Original &black&white#8
This is sick
When are you and Sam going to become full time training partners?
Lionel hr 🔥🔥🔥
133bpm??? Insane
130bpm heart rate, lol. Absolute machine.
Those videos!!!
How is his threshold HR in the 130s???
I have the same helmet as Phil, the same elite water bottle as Lionel..... that’s where the comparison stops 😬
you just drag Phil into his nightmare ^_^
Name of the song in the intro?
Epic