Obviously you haven't suffered under the revenue raising police policies, or from the under-trained egocentric blue line gang members, or the every increasing outlawing of basic human rights... sheeple like you need to go get another vaccine booster and let educated critical thinkers deal with these things
Some people end up in Jail because they're of no fixed abode . . . because they can't get an income and can't afford their own home. . . police arrest them and then they wind in jail because they be bailed anywhere. . . it is not a simple matter of good v bad.
Yeah I never hear a call to abolish the MAORI All Blacks considering we have the All Blacks who accept anyone capable of playing for them and lets not forget the, 10% off your sentence for, 'cultural' reasons.
@@secondchance6603 Yes, the Maori All Blacks have an interesting history. I don't know if you remember this but many years ago they were denied access to South Africa because they were a team selected based on race. But here's the kicker... NONE of the activists like John Minto came out and protested OUR apartheid. None. The moral of the story there is that the left are massive hypocrites.
Well....that was 18 minutes of my life I won't get back. I've never heard so much crap from a guest on your show. I didn't realise how a pakeha lawyer could be so racist.
She claims Maori decent, a tribe from Kawhia, Waikato, so definitely presenting as Maori, 12 years a lawyer, following the new "legal mythology" now taught as science at NZ Uni's
Criminals are not 'impacted'. They are responsible for choosing actions. The people 'impacted' are the victims who were robbed or harmed in some way by a victimiser. To lessen the impact of malicious people on others we have laws. Laws are only relevant if they are enforced.
She trying to water down this blatantly racist load of tripe, there is enough division in nz now ,without these fools inflaming race relations, known racists should never be allowed to go near lawmakers, let alone advise them.
It’s WEF policy to select a supposed minority group and use them as a way to introduce intersectional Marxism and control the rest of society with hate speech laws. Creating dictatorships and mass control on behalf of the globalists and their economic assassins.
Yes... but it does specifically identify Maori - as if they are particularly identified, focused... and the choice of wording is important (as a lawyer she should know this) and is deliberate. And the further discussion of the particular case regarding Maori backs up the idea of there being a focus. Pls don't treat us like fools bc we have EXPERIENCED this bias again, and again... this lady is as biased as the SG's deliberation. Incidentally, this lady talks about Maori as if they are half-wits and don't understand consequences --- her low expectations of Maori is, frankly, racist!
It’s virtue signalling. Ardern showed us it works well for getting a better job without having to take any responsibility for the damage caused in the previous job.
@jasperhorace7147 yep and the reward is a honorary doctorate at some US Uni alongside Hilary Clinton and Victoria Nuland and last week a Damehood given by King Charles himself. Hail our vaulted queen of the WEF. (World Ecconomic Forum) Klaus Swabbs little princess, along with Justin Trudeau and Mark Rutte now head of Nato. The glory of being special. (Puke)
All we (Julila and team) are saying is that Maori get special treatment, that prosecutors will be chilled in how they handle Maori alleged offenders, they will have to prove that they have paid special attention to the needs of Maori alleged offenders, while the rest of us have to live with the consequences of ram-raids, gangs, drugs, violence etc. All of this masks the most fundamental question of all - why do more Maori proportionately offend than any other group in society??? Blaming the justice system is just a cop out - what are the real causes of Maori offending in greater number?? Don't distort the justice system; Maori leaders need to step up and take responsibility to help their people create better, safer, healthy lives instead of pushing grievance demands for preferential discriminatory treatment.
There is the same question about men versus women - why do more men offend? Will she be accepting that its justice system systemic bias that is creating this - can you answer any of these questions without noting that there are problems for lots of groups
@@secondchance6603and we have no maoris that are predominantly maori left there are all just cross breeds. Cant even find one these days that's half lol
This change can not proceed its full of fish hooks,who is a Māori is there a law defining a Māori,you will need one under this proposal.its apartheid all over again.
If I get this right then the innocent & distressed victims of crime plus their families will never get to see justice. While the criminals get a tray of beer & a hug !
Thin end of the Tikanga Law wedge. Best nip it in the bud. Nice try at watering it down by Julia, they are very crafty at the water down, take note of the technique and how it is used.
It appears so, Una Jagose herself specifically called them out as needing special rights, like they are inherently criminal by nature and breeding, so need to be treated with special guidelines in order to take into account their negative inherent traits. Does she really believe this? Does she believe Maori are inferior? It's obvious she doesn't believe they're equal, or she would mot have made that special provision. Quite disturbing really, especially for Maori who actually believe they are all just NZ's like the rest of us.
@@LaurineCurrin tin foil hat time: the legal industry profits from crime. From judges and lawyers to politicians and NGOs: they all make big bucks from being "the ambulance at the bottom of the cliffs"
Language is important. One thing that has always seemed stupid to me is when a person is judged "not guilty of murder with/for reasons of insanity." Shouldn't it be?"found guilty of murder but with reason of insanity. After all, the victim is still dead. My point is the same here ,it matters not one jot to the victim of a crime that the person committing that crime on them is Maori,white,Asian, pacific Island or anything else and giving a lesser sentence because of it gives the very real impression that the crime didn't really matter that there personal harm doesn't matter, only the poor criminal matters.
Murder is a crime of intent, which is a state of mind and requires the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. The idea is that the minds of young children and people suffering from severe insanity do not allow them to differentiate, so they can't be found guilty of murder.
Good to hear the Maori law side of the argument. Transparency discussion and debate is a cornerstone of a democracy. Shame about the main media and their selective journalism. People should weigh up the facts before they form an opinion. There are clearly somw deep rooted beliefs in this whole Treaty principles and Waitangi debate. Plus now this perception of public servants deliberately disobeying government policy in creating racist privilege. New Zealand must have a respectful debate as this festering sore will only get worse. The he puapua aganda of Jacinda seems to be embedded in the public service where least expected. This must be identified reviewed and dealt with appropriately
From this brief discussion it appears that anyone considered to be on the spectrum of the disadvantaged is to be treated differently. My question is who is the arbiter of such, what scale would be used and what safeguards against abuse… Without knowing this the public will continue to lose trust in the justice system.
Is there such a thing as the Pakeha Law Society, when was the conference, and has it been consulted about these changes like the Māori Law Society has been??
Another equally ridiculous group is the Chinese building Association. For some reason they needed their own group outside the various associations already in NZ. Same shit different race, good luck setting up a European group, a swat team would arrive.
If it’s about being from a disadvantaged background, why do you need to add Maori? If you are disadvantaged in anyway, you would be included in that either way.
I went to the supermarket, Bunnings and some clothing stores yesterday - I didn't steal anything or assault people and guess what!? I didn't get arrested. F these people and their lack of self control. Keep us safe & Lock em up.
It is the values in the home that children are bought up with that impact on the lives of the children. You must go to the cause and deal with that (upbringing), rather than fluff around with the effect (offending). Giving weaker sentences will not stop reoffending. And you cannot rehabilitate anyone until they are prepared to change their ways. It takes a concerted effort by the extended family (and community) to stop offending. Paying lip service and or turning a blind eye to it will not make it happen. This sounds like another bandaid that will cause more festering of the wound.
How can she say 'stop and consider the individual circumstances...' if she supports a document that allows an entire ethnicity to be handled differently under the justice system. Ridiculous.
Nonsense. She is reading into it a whole other meaning that is actually NOT there in the words. Talk about bias! And she's a trained lawyer? Just another indicator of how poor our education system has become.
Apartied makes the people it favours weaker not stronger. That is what history shows over and over. Julia in every statue of justice she is blindfolded, explain that please, with your first class law degree.
Wow Michael Laws ran rings around this lady. The LAW is not so arbitary tool in the bag of tools available to the courts, it is the Specified rules of judegement for a particular crime not a particular individual. The individual has broken the 'rule' and must face the consequences. How the consequence is tempered to an individuals specific circumstances, impairment or race is not a consideration for the courts but for those tasked with applying the consequence. As Mike Laws said the corrections, social services etc and other 'corrections or rehabilitation providers, but certainly not the opinion of the judge or jury whe prosecute the crime according the Law.
Two tier policing. Uk has it for African/Middle eastern immigrants vs native white citizens. The US has it for black Americans vs non black Americans. Evidence suggests it results in higher crime rates in those pampered groups. Jump back 60 years ago and those minorities were law abiding citizens, educated, owned their own homes and businesses, had fathers in the household, had respect for themselves and others. Then Labour and the democrats changed that. Told minorities that they were second class citizens due to racism. And told women of minority groups that they would be paid money to have children as long as the father wasn’t around. Fact ; receiving a lesser punishment is a reward within itself. Let’s reward the offenders. And if you don’t agree you will be punished for being racist etc. Forget progressiveness. Let’s turn back the clock to normality.
What is she talking about. If someone commits a crime the should be prosecuted if there is sufficient evidence. If there are extenuating circumstances that would be taken into account at sentencing, if at all. Otherwise the net result is suddenly all the criminals will suddenly start identifying with 'affected' groups.
Maaori criminals and others. can now be treated with leniency, in criminal courts? It's disastrous! Yet for decades if not centuries people of merit may be summoned to a criminal court and also be treated with leniency in a criminal court.
“We can’t assume all victims are the same” Yet, you assume all Maori are the same - disadvantaged, poor oppressed, etc… 🤔 Social justice is literally nothing more than profiling and stereotyping people
and given this is all based on the mental insane ideas of intersectionality - then by this action those that represent small numbers in prison should be held to the extreme levels of the law - say woman lawyers - if they break the law - say steal - maybe should be life imprisonment - just saying
The press release by Una Jagose herself as NZ Solicitor General, screams racial preference to my analysis, so much as to be so specific with which "race" is to be prioritized, namely Maori. How much more pointed and directional can you be.
NZ has had a one stop shop system for decades and clearly it hasn’t worked. Given NZ has a low income work force and a large proportion of its society isn’t sufficiently educated along with one of the most expensive countries to live in most are on the back foot . i would never make excuses for crime but some people are living in bad situations and see very little way out .
You are correct: the victims and the law-abiding citizens and taxpayers are really living a bad reality and see no way out. Correct again: the system has to change and get tougher with the ones that carry on committing crime even after all the softness they got along the way, their criminal lifes.
Lawyers psychiatrists judges and probation judiciary need repeat business . Some offenders have 100 offences and like going before the court especially one that’s kind to them ha ha. Her pensions assured
If a certain cultural group comes to the attention of the justice system, racism within the justice system is 1 possible reason. Today, under post modern critical analysis, all over the west, that is the ONLY reason ALLOWED to be assumed. Another likelier possibility is that the attention is warranted. It seems likely to prove a lot more fruitful to pursue the reasons for this, particularly if no concrete examples of systemic racism can be produced.
Public servants advising Ministers are Critical Race Theory-captured. Graduates have come out of the universities in last 20 years, CRT has defined their political opinions while at work, despite the established Public Service culture being non-political.
Lawyers psychiatrists judges and probation judiciary need repeat business . Some offenders have 100 offences and like going before the court especially one that’s kind to them ha ha. Her pensions assured ps does size of your tiki matter serious question as tpm are Hugh
Think the real issue is revolving door some have 100 convictions like the free accom food electric no bills free medical support even pocket money and social welfare ie free clothing . Want to go back in . Real victims staff getting up everyday paying taxes and know whatever do get no where . Lawyers happy crims happy as fully supported only losers taxpayers and workers in these places with assaults poor pay etc
Public servants advising Ministers are Critical Race Theory-captured. Graduates have come out of the universities in last 20 years, CRT has defined their political opinions while at work, despite the established Public Service culture being non-political.
Think the real issue is revolving door some have 100 convictions like the free accom food electric no bills free medical support even pocket money and social welfare ie free clothing . Want to go back in . Real victims staff getting up everyday paying taxes and know whatever do get no where . Lawyers happy crims happy as fully supported only losers taxpayers and workers in these places with assaults poor pay etc
If you don’t want to go to jail, don’t do the crime it’s pretty simple
If only they went to school
Obviously you haven't suffered under the revenue raising police policies, or from the under-trained egocentric blue line gang members, or the every increasing outlawing of basic human rights... sheeple like you need to go get another vaccine booster and let educated critical thinkers deal with these things
Some people end up in Jail because they're of no fixed abode . . . because they can't get an income and can't afford their own home. . . police arrest them and then they wind in jail because they be bailed anywhere. . . it is not a simple matter of good v bad.
Don't you just love it when people try to justify racism lol
The only way we will solve perceived racism is.... Real racism, codified into law.
Utterly ridiculous nonsense and disgusting behavior from her
Apartied, alive and well in NewZealand, even after the election.
Yeah I never hear a call to abolish the MAORI All Blacks considering we have the All Blacks who accept anyone capable of playing for them and lets not forget the, 10% off your sentence for, 'cultural' reasons.
@@secondchance6603 A team picked on color abolish the team .
National are the weakest link. Luxon mia as usual.
@@secondchance6603 All Blacks is a spelling mistake that should be corrected. They were called All Backs.
@@secondchance6603
Yes, the Maori All Blacks have an interesting history. I don't know if you remember this but many years ago they were denied access to South Africa because they were a team selected based on race. But here's the kicker...
NONE of the activists like John Minto came out and protested OUR apartheid. None. The moral of the story there is that the left are massive hypocrites.
Well....that was 18 minutes of my life I won't get back. I've never heard so much crap from a guest on your show. I didn't realise how a pakeha lawyer could be so racist.
The modern wo-man! 🤷
pakeha woman? - shes a tribal grifter doing maori tribal woke
Remember 1 millionth of her came here on a waka
She claims Maori decent, a tribe from Kawhia, Waikato, so definitely presenting as Maori, 12 years a lawyer, following the new "legal mythology" now taught as science at NZ Uni's
Totally agree cant debate with ignorance and idiots😊
given there are more men in prison than women will she be agreeable for violent men to be not charged because of the same reasoning?
@@user-tc-s7r only if they are trans, probably...
Only violent Maori men 😂😂😂
it amazes me these clowns cant figure out a certain group of ppl commit more crime then others.
It's not their fault. They're our responsiblity. I blame society. I learned that by listening to Only a Lad by Oingo Boingo forty years ago.
@mr2981 🎶Everyone said "If you don't get straight you'll surely go to hell"🎵〽️
A poor defense for the indefensible
Criminals are not 'impacted'. They are responsible for choosing actions.
The people 'impacted' are the victims who were robbed or harmed in some way by a victimiser. To lessen the impact of malicious people on others we have laws.
Laws are only relevant if they are enforced.
Great summary!
She trying to water down this blatantly racist load of tripe, there is enough division in nz now ,without these fools inflaming race relations, known racists should never be allowed to go near lawmakers, let alone advise them.
It’s WEF policy to select a supposed minority group and use them as a way to introduce intersectional Marxism and control the rest of society with hate speech laws. Creating dictatorships and mass control on behalf of the globalists and their economic assassins.
Yes... but it does specifically identify Maori - as if they are particularly identified, focused... and the choice of wording is important (as a lawyer she should know this) and is deliberate. And the further discussion of the particular case regarding Maori backs up the idea of there being a focus. Pls don't treat us like fools bc we have EXPERIENCED this bias again, and again... this lady is as biased as the SG's deliberation. Incidentally, this lady talks about Maori as if they are half-wits and don't understand consequences --- her low expectations of Maori is, frankly, racist!
Well put there 👋
🎯 The only ethnicity mentioned is Maori.
Lol she is a maori
@@paulleary8594 which is even more disgraceful that she's all for treating like Maori like idiotic naughty children.
@@paulleary8594 ... and yet...
It amazes me that people like this woman seem to believe their own bull.
It’s virtue signalling. Ardern showed us it works well for getting a better job without having to take any responsibility for the damage caused in the previous job.
@jasperhorace7147 yep and the reward is a honorary doctorate at some US Uni alongside Hilary Clinton and Victoria Nuland and last week a Damehood given by King Charles himself. Hail our vaulted queen of the WEF. (World Ecconomic Forum) Klaus Swabbs little princess, along with Justin Trudeau and Mark Rutte now head of Nato. The glory of being special. (Puke)
@@LaurineCurrin So correct, I even puked up just seeing her on RUclips.
Racists.
Agreed, imagine expecting special privileges just because you're a Maori, absolutely racist.
Racist as ,
All we (Julila and team) are saying is that Maori get special treatment, that prosecutors will be chilled in how they handle Maori alleged offenders, they will have to prove that they have paid special attention to the needs of Maori alleged offenders, while the rest of us have to live with the consequences of ram-raids, gangs, drugs, violence etc. All of this masks the most fundamental question of all - why do more Maori proportionately offend than any other group in society??? Blaming the justice system is just a cop out - what are the real causes of Maori offending in greater number?? Don't distort the justice system; Maori leaders need to step up and take responsibility to help their people create better, safer, healthy lives instead of pushing grievance demands for preferential discriminatory treatment.
This
100%
There is the same question about men versus women - why do more men offend? Will she be accepting that its justice system systemic bias that is creating this - can you answer any of these questions without noting that there are problems for lots of groups
Yep Marxism 101 on display.
Māori leaders really don’t seem to care about the Māori at the bottom of the heap. They are much more interested in enriching themselves.
Is there a white lawyer group. Is there a non-maori lawyer group?
We have the Maori All Blacks but no Asian All Blacks or the European All Blacks, funny that.
@@secondchance6603and we have no maoris that are predominantly maori left there are all just cross breeds. Cant even find one these days that's half lol
Maoris can play for the All Blacks AND the Maori All Blacks. Could pakeha play for the All Blacks AND a pakeha only team?
@johns7988 pakeha only team would suck hard, probably left with 4 or 5 players 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dumbass
This change can not proceed its full of fish hooks,who is a Māori is there a law defining a Māori,you will need one under this proposal.its apartheid all over again.
What a load of tosh!!
Rules for me but not for thee..
Interesting, she said that her Tribe {which I have never heard of} arrived on the Waka Tainui. Obviously NOT INDIGENOUS
If I get this right then the innocent & distressed victims of crime plus their families will never get to see justice. While the criminals get a tray of beer & a hug !
Don’t forget the KFC or McDonald’s
Thin end of the Tikanga Law wedge. Best nip it in the bud.
Nice try at watering it down by Julia, they are very crafty at the water down, take note of the technique and how it is used.
'Nice try at watering it down...'
Reminds me of, 'We only want a civil union, nothing more'.
Yes the ol tip toe technique
@secondchance6603 until you been there three years and want half of everything...
The new guidelines recognize Māori as hereditarily inferior.
Yep, naughty children who never grow up, very respectful.
I don’t think they’ve adapted to civilisation very well.
@@marcusnz232 Hardly surprising as the never managed to progress beyond the Stone Age.
It appears so, Una Jagose herself specifically called them out as needing special rights, like they are inherently criminal by nature and breeding, so need to be treated with special guidelines in order to take into account their negative inherent traits. Does she really believe this? Does she believe Maori are inferior?
It's obvious she doesn't believe they're equal, or she would mot have made that special provision.
Quite disturbing really, especially for Maori who actually believe they are all just NZ's like the rest of us.
@@LaurineCurrin tin foil hat time: the legal industry profits from crime. From judges and lawyers to politicians and NGOs: they all make big bucks from being "the ambulance at the bottom of the cliffs"
Language is important. One thing that has always seemed stupid to me is when a person is judged "not guilty of murder with/for reasons of insanity." Shouldn't it be?"found guilty of murder but with reason of insanity. After all, the victim is still dead. My point is the same here ,it matters not one jot to the victim of a crime that the person committing that crime on them is Maori,white,Asian, pacific Island or anything else and giving a lesser sentence because of it gives the very real impression that the crime didn't really matter that there personal harm doesn't matter, only the poor criminal matters.
Murder is a crime of intent, which is a state of mind and requires the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. The idea is that the minds of young children and people suffering from severe insanity do not allow them to differentiate, so they can't be found guilty of murder.
Murder requires intent to murder. Insanity being not of one’s mind. Hence person before the court can’t be guilty.
A maori get out of jail free card.
Get out of jail free, steal a car and commit another crime …. Get another card. ….. steal. …..
@@jasperhorace7147 Spot on.
Stop doing crimes and all this BS wont apply to you.!! Simple really.
Good to hear the Maori law side of the argument. Transparency discussion and debate is a cornerstone of a democracy. Shame about the main media and their selective journalism. People should weigh up the facts before they form an opinion. There are clearly somw deep rooted beliefs in this whole Treaty principles and Waitangi debate. Plus now this perception of public servants deliberately disobeying government policy in creating racist privilege.
New Zealand must have a respectful debate as this festering sore will only get worse.
The he puapua aganda of Jacinda seems to be embedded in the public service where least expected. This must be identified reviewed and dealt with appropriately
100% correct.
Such a shame. We're going down the gurgler.
When Maori set up guidelines to common law, benefits the Maori criminal and prejudices all other New Zealanders
Julia Spelman I think, is more Ngati pakeha than anything else.
From this brief discussion it appears that anyone considered to be on the spectrum of the disadvantaged is to be treated differently. My question is who is the arbiter of such, what scale would be used and what safeguards against abuse… Without knowing this the public will continue to lose trust in the justice system.
Is there such a thing as the Pakeha Law Society, when was the conference, and has it been consulted about these changes like the Māori Law Society has been??
Another equally ridiculous group is the Chinese building Association. For some reason they needed their own group outside the various associations already in NZ. Same shit different race, good luck setting up a European group, a swat team would arrive.
The Maori Law Society was incorporated on 8 August 1988.
@@LaurineCurrin that is not the question.
If it’s about being from a disadvantaged background, why do you need to add Maori? If you are disadvantaged in anyway, you would be included in that either way.
But how does that make you eligible for special privileges?
Another Tui add Yeh Right.
Exactly
I went to the supermarket, Bunnings and some clothing stores yesterday - I didn't steal anything or assault people and guess what!?
I didn't get arrested.
F these people and their lack of self control. Keep us safe & Lock em up.
Same rules apply to all.
It is the values in the home that children are bought up with that impact on the lives of the children.
You must go to the cause and deal with that (upbringing), rather than fluff around with the effect (offending).
Giving weaker sentences will not stop reoffending.
And you cannot rehabilitate anyone until they are prepared to change their ways.
It takes a concerted effort by the extended family (and community) to stop offending.
Paying lip service and or turning a blind eye to it will not make it happen.
This sounds like another bandaid that will cause more festering of the wound.
Justice should be blind, shouldn't it? Colour blind hopefully.
Co governance alive and well. Cheers Cindy 🎉
Everyday in the mainstream media it's pushed
Get her out.
What about guy who got case dropped because it would affect his mana
How can she say 'stop and consider the individual circumstances...' if she supports a document that allows an entire ethnicity to be handled differently under the justice system. Ridiculous.
It would seem justice is blind... depending.
So true
Nonsense. She is reading into it a whole other meaning that is actually NOT there in the words. Talk about bias! And she's a trained lawyer? Just another indicator of how poor our education system has become.
Is she really a trained lawyer or was she just given a pass on her race?😮
We do want to be taking these things into account but race isn't one of them...
As Michael showed here, sometimes it’s better to just let people speak…😂
Apartied makes the people it favours weaker not stronger. That is what history shows over and over. Julia in every statue of justice she is blindfolded, explain that please, with your first class law degree.
Wow Michael Laws ran rings around this lady. The LAW is not so arbitary tool in the bag of tools available to the courts, it is the Specified rules of judegement for a particular crime not a particular individual. The individual has broken the 'rule' and must face the consequences. How the consequence is tempered to an individuals specific circumstances, impairment or race is not a consideration for the courts but for those tasked with applying the consequence. As Mike Laws said the corrections, social services etc and other 'corrections or rehabilitation providers, but certainly not the opinion of the judge or jury whe prosecute the crime according the Law.
Want lower representation? Represent less
Distilled logic, well played.
Two tier policing.
Uk has it for African/Middle eastern immigrants vs native white citizens.
The US has it for black Americans vs non black Americans.
Evidence suggests it results in higher crime rates in those pampered groups.
Jump back 60 years ago and those minorities were law abiding citizens, educated, owned their own homes and businesses, had fathers in the household, had respect for themselves and others.
Then Labour and the democrats changed that.
Told minorities that they were second class citizens due to racism.
And told women of minority groups that they would be paid money to have children as long as the father wasn’t around.
Fact ; receiving a lesser punishment is a reward within itself.
Let’s reward the offenders.
And if you don’t agree you will be punished for being racist etc.
Forget progressiveness.
Let’s turn back the clock to normality.
What is she talking about.
If someone commits a crime the should be prosecuted if there is sufficient evidence. If there are extenuating circumstances that would be taken into account at sentencing, if at all.
Otherwise the net result is suddenly all the criminals will suddenly start identifying with 'affected' groups.
"Men" would be a group?
Men are overall disproportionately affected by crime.
Maaori criminals and others. can now be treated with leniency, in criminal courts?
It's disastrous!
Yet for decades if not centuries people of merit may be summoned to a criminal court and also be treated with leniency in a criminal court.
“We can’t assume all victims are the same”
Yet, you assume all Maori are the same - disadvantaged, poor oppressed, etc… 🤔
Social justice is literally nothing more than profiling and stereotyping people
Nice work Michael. Always bringing the microscope of logical analysis.
Wow…that was…embarrassing…😂
"Informed decision" or "go easy"
She is very biased and deceptive
and given this is all based on the mental insane ideas of intersectionality - then by this action those that represent small numbers in prison should be held to the extreme levels of the law - say woman lawyers - if they break the law - say steal - maybe should be life imprisonment - just saying
The press release by Una Jagose herself as NZ Solicitor General, screams racial preference to my analysis, so much as to be so specific with which "race" is to be prioritized, namely Maori. How much more pointed and directional can you be.
NZ has had a one stop shop system for decades and clearly it hasn’t worked. Given NZ has a low income work force and a large proportion of its society isn’t sufficiently educated along with one of the most expensive countries to live in most are on the back foot . i would never make excuses for crime but some people are living in bad situations and see very little way out .
You are correct: the victims and the law-abiding citizens and taxpayers are really living a bad reality and see no way out. Correct again: the system has to change and get tougher with the ones that carry on committing crime even after all the softness they got along the way, their criminal lifes.
Lawyers psychiatrists judges and probation judiciary need repeat business . Some offenders have 100 offences and like going before the court especially one that’s kind to them ha ha. Her pensions assured
The new guidelines are racist. End of story. But NZ is now chock full of racist apologists.
Your correspondent talks paternalistic tokenistic horseshit as does the Solicitor General.......
100% correct
If a certain cultural group comes to the attention of the justice system, racism within the justice system is 1 possible reason. Today, under post modern critical analysis, all over the west, that is the ONLY reason ALLOWED to be assumed. Another likelier possibility is that the attention is warranted. It seems likely to prove a lot more fruitful to pursue the reasons for this, particularly if no concrete examples of systemic racism can be produced.
Its apartied plain & simple
Over represented simply means the commit more crimes…this is moronic and we are morons if we accept it. The poor me never ends.
I think she's saying that justice shouldn't be blind. I thought we'd figured out long ago that it should be.
You are complaining to the wrong person Mike.
Understand the process going on around them? Literally the opposite of what woke maori culture has created in NZ for kiwis.
I don't believe she has any maori blood in her veins at all.
She's as white as I am.
What about survivors of abuse who weren’t in state care
Public servants advising Ministers are Critical Race Theory-captured. Graduates have come out of the universities in last 20 years, CRT has defined their political opinions while at work, despite the established Public Service culture being non-political.
I can hardly beleave my ears I won't prosecution to put cims in the can
She only got a little tiki not like TPM
Kawhia is magical. This document is shyte.
Lawyers psychiatrists judges and probation judiciary need repeat business . Some offenders have 100 offences and like going before the court especially one that’s kind to them ha ha. Her pensions assured ps does size of your tiki matter serious question as tpm are Hugh
Think the real issue is revolving door some have 100 convictions like the free accom food electric no bills free medical support even pocket money and social welfare ie free clothing . Want to go back in . Real victims staff getting up everyday paying taxes and know whatever do get no where . Lawyers happy crims happy as fully supported only losers taxpayers and workers in these places with assaults poor pay etc
"Any group disproportionately impacted by the criminal justice system" ... ie. All those caught breaking the law.
So "men" would be a group right?
"over represented "euphemism for Commit more crime
Public servants advising Ministers are Critical Race Theory-captured. Graduates have come out of the universities in last 20 years, CRT has defined their political opinions while at work, despite the established Public Service culture being non-political.
Think the real issue is revolving door some have 100 convictions like the free accom food electric no bills free medical support even pocket money and social welfare ie free clothing . Want to go back in . Real victims staff getting up everyday paying taxes and know whatever do get no where . Lawyers happy crims happy as fully supported only losers taxpayers and workers in these places with assaults poor pay etc