Ep. 173 | Digital Clutter (with Cal Newport)

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
  • Joshua & Ryan talk about digital clutter, technological exhaustion, quitting social media, and overall online health with their friend Cal Newport, author of the new book Digital Minimalism. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at / theminimalists
    Questions answered in this episode:
    How do I overcome the guilt I feel when I unfollow friends and family on social media? (1:33)
    How can my company or brand remain relevant without a constant media presence? (23:06)
    How do I keep up with work without drowning in information? (26:40)
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Комментарии • 72

  • @anelenunwana7084
    @anelenunwana7084 3 года назад +20

    I would have loved to hear more from Cal

    • @Merryyy203
      @Merryyy203 3 года назад +3

      Hahaha. I thought the same.

    • @JeremyMattingly
      @JeremyMattingly 2 года назад

      If you want to hear more from Cal Newport and how all of his work ties together, I recommend this interview: ruclips.net/video/ROKQHRfh2mA/видео.html

  • @Merryyy203
    @Merryyy203 3 года назад +18

    This is how much Cal spoke:
    3:48 - 4:17 (29 s)
    4:34 - 5:53 (1:19)
    6:39 - 7:48 (1:09)
    9:14 - 9:40 (36 s)
    9:51 - 10:31 (40 s)
    11:29 - 12:19 (50 s)
    12:59 - 14:14 (1:15)
    21:05 - 21:20 (15 s)
    22:08 - 22:37 (29 s)
    25:09 - 26:00 (51 s)
    26:04 - 26:18 (12 s)
    27:32 - 28:40 (1:08)
    If I did the math right, he didn't reach 10 minutes. Video length: 35:20 min.

    • @OK-Computer
      @OK-Computer Год назад +2

      lol, exactly. I was thinking about the same thing. So much for „minimalism“.

  • @martinarmbrust3678
    @martinarmbrust3678 5 лет назад +25

    I really enjoy listening to Cal... What an interesting and intelligent guy. This conversation was very useful.

  • @26laf
    @26laf 5 лет назад +6

    Real friends don't care if you follow them or not - that's so true.

  • @talkativetech
    @talkativetech 5 лет назад +11

    I love minimalism and your movie/podcasts helped my life. Thank you guys so much.

  • @dewi9611
    @dewi9611 5 лет назад +7

    I watched his Ted Talk long time ago on my journey to quit social media.

  • @nicholem6193
    @nicholem6193 5 лет назад +4

    That was absolutely awesome, and that exciting moment when someone articulates so perfectly what I feel but can't quite explain. Especially the description of facebook interaction! Well done.

  • @AprilDalaman
    @AprilDalaman 5 лет назад +1

    I like the mute button, especially on Instagram. That way you can follow people and message them back and forth when you want to talk to friends but you aren’t forced to see all the staged photos and stories. That way you don’t have to unfollow and hurt anyone’s feelings, but you can still protect your own mental health. That’s another reason why I enjoy Twitter because it feels more like talking to friends about things you enjoy or feel are important to share and reading people’s post that add value to your life instead of showing off photos to brag. I only have Twitter & a small private IG instead of adding on FB, Snapchat, Tumblr, etc. That’s another way I try to keep it minimal. :)

  • @SamDowdenmusic
    @SamDowdenmusic 5 лет назад +5

    I've just bought 'digital minimalism' on audible. Looking forward to hearing that. Great podcast guys!

  • @jasonshields9501
    @jasonshields9501 2 года назад

    I'm absolutely in love with Mr. Cal...total bromance though. Seriously though, you three have changed my life through your work. I watch your documentary every now and then to remind myself to keep it simple. Freeing myself of clutter and distractions has helped me gain my self-confidence and worth back. For the first time in years, I am looking forward to sharing my life with that special someone and I hope he is a clone of Ryan or Cal lol! I'd take one of Joshua too...hehehe. Thanks for everything you have done and continue to do!

  • @j.d.5709
    @j.d.5709 5 лет назад +1

    11:29 segment is pure gold.

  • @kellyshpeley
    @kellyshpeley 2 года назад

    I collect horrendous memes and can’t stop. Literally more memes than family photos. It’s an affliction.

  • @veronicasharp7085
    @veronicasharp7085 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I needed it. I have an addiction and very true, people have replace human interaction with a LIKE!! I am not built that way. I am making the decision today to make a change and make it for a long time. I have social media addition and is making me depressed. Like he said we had a freaking kid with a hood change our whole life and not knowing that for centuries and decades we were just find not knowing what the F other people where doing. I am scare because of my type of work, but in order to make things happen, change has to happen.

  • @talkativetech
    @talkativetech 5 лет назад +26

    Right now, I'm trying my best not to allow my phone control my life. I'm thinking about purchasing a old iPod classic just for music. After that I'd be okay leaving my phone at home.

    • @timljhcm
      @timljhcm 5 лет назад +5

      Talkative Tech I love my old iPod classic. It’s great that it’s not connected to the internet. I don’t get constant annoying interrupting notifications! I just hear the music, bliss.

    • @Merryyy203
      @Merryyy203 3 года назад

      I did that back in 2019. My iPhone's battery was acting up so I started using the iPod Touch. I often felt the urge to check something but without WiFi you just can't. It was nice to go outside and not worry about being called or texted. The only thing I didn't like was not being able to take pictures with a good camera.
      Last year I got a new phone so it all went down the toilet but in November I deleted my social media accounts (now I only have one Fb account that I use for groups to ask questions) and I do not even feel like taking pictures anymore. If I like something I'd rather enjoy it that way. I will once in a while send a picture to someone on Telegram to share it with them but that is it.

  • @magleeventures2246
    @magleeventures2246 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you so much for the immense value in the video! We are trying to be more conscious of our social media use! (Including both the good and bad of car camping and roadtripping) thanks again!

  • @1snee
    @1snee 5 лет назад

    The book is on its way since signing up to facebook in 2009 i became more unsocial more isolated and more socially anxious ! Over it thanks cal !

  • @jzen1455
    @jzen1455 3 года назад +2

    My internet addiction has ramped up during the covid pandemic. Somedays I spend 14 hrs mindlessly surfing the internet researching whatever strikes my fancy. The addiction intensity waxes and wanes, but today it feels really bad; it feels like my ass is glued to the sofa and stepping away feels nearly impossible. I'm seriously considering getting rid of my laptop and using my tiny iPhone SE as my main internet device., which I find much less engaging than my laptop. I'm hoping the void from not being able to get my laptop dopamine fix will compel me to do many things I've been putting off because of the pull of the internet vortex.

  • @JoanneWhitlock
    @JoanneWhitlock 2 года назад

    I’m just sorting out digital/IT stuff. It has grown in such an ad hoc way as I try new stuff and figure out what works for me. I feel like a system can’t be set up in advance but only in hindsight. Hoping, and doing some research now, to have something set up as I guess at future needs and thoughts about where the tech will go. Feel like I am needing to learn another language to understand it all!

  • @madeleinepousar
    @madeleinepousar 5 лет назад

    I really agree with that we as humans are designed to be interacting in real life to get authentic connections. When one of my friends gave birth to a beautiful baby daughter I wasnt able to see my friend because she doesnt live close to me. I didnt want to call her beeing busy with her new familiy or just send her a text. I wanted to do something special so I sent her flowers with a few kind words written on a card. She got the flowers next day and she told me she started crying because she was so happy I took the time to pick flowers and pick the words just for her and her family. Her words about the flowers ment so much to me. More than any like or comment on instagram ever could.

    • @jsupp13
      @jsupp13 3 года назад

      You had a guest who is an expert on this subject and you gave him approximately five minutes of time. Why?

  • @peachesandpoets
    @peachesandpoets 2 года назад +1

    GOOD TIP FOR WOMEN'S PRODUCTS. Shelters love things like lotions and body washes and things like that. Don't just donate them in the bins, directly donate to a shelter! 🙏🏾

  • @elisazouza
    @elisazouza 3 года назад +1

    my favourite podcast!!!

  • @MagisterialVoyager
    @MagisterialVoyager 5 лет назад +1

    I signed up for Facebook sometime in 2009-2010. I used it until the end of 2010. Then I used it again for the entirety of 2012. Then I don't use it anymore except for opening a specific page because I have project in that page of Facebook. I only ever opened the Home/Feed page of Facebook on the first year I used Facebook. It created so much drama considering I was only a high school student then. Some good things happened, indeed, but I feel like the clutter the social media made is terribly unnecessary for my life.
    Now I can say it's almost a decade since I used social media the way people usually use it (open, check statistic, look at feed, etc.) and it's quite a solitude life. I catch up with my friends when I meet them. They always know something I don't, but then they'll tell me what is it and they got to enjoy my response to whatever is currently hot right now. I do think that so many of people's mental health being damaged by using social media, but I can't exactly stop people to use them, even if I know it's harmful for them.
    This is an interesting video. I just wish that more people either have the ability to utilise social media properly or just stop using it entirely if they no longer had control and or use over it.

  • @artistdq
    @artistdq 5 лет назад +1

    Hey guys just tumbled onto this from getting Cal Newports book. Would love to discuss how minimalism helps artist. Long story short my wife and I help inner city youth with strength identity with in the arts as she and I are artist and have done missions work and we feel identity is blurred with the consumption of social media. Any how dont want this getting real long hit me up if your interested.

  • @Bestbuddybob
    @Bestbuddybob 5 лет назад +6

    my name is Bob and I have an addiction. For me I have had to stop because of the twitch and the anxiety the social media gives me. If I post I am then constantly checking for replys and it's ashame because some times I really want to put out be that a quote or a picture. But the twitch and anxiety gets far to much so I am 22 days clean.

  • @talkativetech
    @talkativetech 5 лет назад +7

    I ended up deleting all social media. Also organize my email, delete apps I'm not using, installed Linux which is a light weight operating system.

    • @Trunk874
      @Trunk874 4 года назад

      Talkative Tech how was the move to Linux? I’d like to use Mac for development work and windows but Linux for personal

  • @lifelonglearner1863
    @lifelonglearner1863 2 года назад

    thanks for this episode.

  • @Mellybeans0919
    @Mellybeans0919 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic podcast.

  • @stuckcontactor5826
    @stuckcontactor5826 5 лет назад +6

    Whemever i leave the phone at the house and explore. I feel like the Omega Man.

  • @kailebrogan447
    @kailebrogan447 4 года назад

    I deleted two of my Instagram accounts and now have one specific to minimalism. I already feel 100 times better

    • @kailebrogan447
      @kailebrogan447 4 года назад

      I also shut down my Facebook accounts.

  • @keylalipo7778
    @keylalipo7778 5 лет назад

    I recently decided to take action on simplifying and as a result have ruthlessly minimized my IG account. Although I do plan to delete it altogether soon. My only hold back is it has been a nice tool to stay in touch with friends and relatives that live in other states.

    • @fpl_bailey
      @fpl_bailey 5 лет назад +1

      then keep it, you don't have to post on it everyday or go on it everyday. It seems like you still receive value from it by contacting friends and relatives.

    • @aiquesono
      @aiquesono 5 лет назад

      hmm...why don't add them on whatsapp?

  • @Csb1289
    @Csb1289 5 лет назад +2

    I realized I'm basically holding onto my Facebook account right now as a digital photo album. I don't want to take up space on my computer and every once in a while I want to see how some distant relative is doing yet I don't really wanna talk to them. But that says more than I thought. Might be deleting it altogether soon, thanks for the push!

  • @jackdavis7438
    @jackdavis7438 5 лет назад +5

    The irony is that i had this playing in the background as i scrolled through Facebook. I hardly payed attention. Yikes

  • @kirsten121
    @kirsten121 5 лет назад +1

    But how am I meant to stalk a guy if he has no social media?! Or should I take it as a sign he's a spy? Seriously though, I just deleted some of my more, eh, misguided musical downloads. Now my MP3 is all killer; no filler. Love you guys!

  • @anadampling666
    @anadampling666 5 лет назад

    I love Cal books

  • @elisazouza
    @elisazouza 3 года назад +2

    14:50 this is how i feel and people think im crazy ahahha like dude i can talk to you in person lmao

  • @reneerenee1783
    @reneerenee1783 5 лет назад

    Thank you for this. I was hoping you two would collab with Cal :)

  • @EmeliaSings
    @EmeliaSings 5 лет назад +1

    Please for anyone reading this, don't just throw away to achieve a more minimalistic home, do think of the environment. Do try to use up as long as something is still good to use. Do try to give away to someone who can use what you're thinking about getting rid of. Just throwing perfectly good skincare/makeup/bathroom products away is SUCH a waste. And if you stick with your products, trying to use them up BEFORE purchasing something new, you'll be less likely to buy multiple in the future, cause you will know how long it will take to use something up. The environment thanks you!

  • @novicetheaf
    @novicetheaf 5 лет назад

    Even when my friend buy's a new phone I feel a part of me is tempted to buy a new phone too, I think it's the comparison too, just on a smaller scale. Once my phone is working fine though I won't upgrade, trying not to keep up with technology anymore, especially when most phone for 150 Euro are plenty good, but yeah 😂

  • @just.donutssss
    @just.donutssss 5 лет назад +2

    I thought you were going to say “cult” at 17:47 😂
    My mind is dark i know

  • @IH_Lee
    @IH_Lee 5 лет назад

    I didn't LIKE this video cuz it's almost an insult. Kidding. I stopped logging in my FB and Instagram 2 months ago. It didn't change a lot in my life but now I have more time to do other meaningful things like watching this video clip. Haha. And I got the idea from this clip of unfollowing or unfriending everyone and starting following again from the scratch only people I like to hear from and people who care about me so want to follow me again. I love this clip and really want to read the book Digital Minimalism, but I'm Korean and I think it's not translated in Korean yet. I hope it's published in Korean soon. Thank you for this great episode.

  • @AntonioCarlosHeinenZardin
    @AntonioCarlosHeinenZardin 5 лет назад

    I really liked. Should I give thumbs up to this video or not? I'm confused :p

  • @dkbegue
    @dkbegue 5 лет назад

    Huge take away don't remove something without replacing it with something that brings joy and purpose

  • @imanabdalla3997
    @imanabdalla3997 3 года назад

    Useful information indeed, but you still have social media links in your description. 🤣
    But, I feel like cal could have spoken a little more.

  • @cristinatheonelove
    @cristinatheonelove 5 лет назад

    Thank you

  • @anadampling666
    @anadampling666 5 лет назад

    Is the episod on patroen already?

  • @PixelPioneer176
    @PixelPioneer176 11 месяцев назад +1

    You're reading quality content. A related book could be a great supplement if you're keen. "A Life Unplugged: Reclaiming Reality in a Digital Age" by Theodore Blaze

  • @janethockey9070
    @janethockey9070 5 лет назад

    Got rid of social media

  • @tomcockcroft9394
    @tomcockcroft9394 3 года назад

    What are his thoughts on Netflix?

  • @gainde1137
    @gainde1137 5 лет назад

    Beat the algorythms!

  • @1snee
    @1snee 5 лет назад +1

    Guys check out on youtube short film social media addiction "percentage of life " unreal

  • @mjh1750
    @mjh1750 5 лет назад

    ❤️

  • @yseultCH
    @yseultCH 5 лет назад

    I am truly touched by this and by all three of your paths and work and have been for years now, but you are missing something every strong, simply because you haven't had an experience of it yourself: Facebook Groups. Now, it might be niche, it might be special to women, but the links found and shared in a common experience through the simplicity of a Facebook group realises itself completely outside of the simple setting of 'ads or consumption' that you are drawing up for the use of Social Media. There IS a bit more nuance to this and I would actually like to have a sociologist start looking into FB, Twitter, Instagram as a community building force when used intentionally and with discernment.

  • @evanoshea9506
    @evanoshea9506 3 года назад

    Great interview, but i think you should sit at the same side of table and have the guest across so he isn't playing tennis with his eyes. It's pretty distracting to watch

  • @SamuelKelemenC
    @SamuelKelemenC 5 лет назад

    Donald Knuth....?

  • @ichoosejoy2712
    @ichoosejoy2712 3 года назад

    Just an observation but Cal seemed so insecure and uncomfortable. Other interviews he has done, like the Rich Roll podcast for example, he was so much more confident and talkative.

  • @TheHannahbarker
    @TheHannahbarker 5 лет назад

    Ahhhhhh I need to delete facebook. 😣