Beginner Suminagashi: Demo, trouble-shooting and tips
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this video I will show you the materials you need, talk about paper selection, demonstrate the technique on two kinds of paper and give you tips and tricks to help make your first Suminagashi a success. Thanks for watching!
Problems and solutions:
1) Your ink isn’t floating.
a) Hard water, use demineralized water
b) Add some more of your carrageenan mixture
2) Your ink rings are very thin or too light.
a) You may be using too much surfactant and thus, only DAB the surfactant tool on the top of the water quicker; try to place the ink on the top of the water and let the water draw or suck the ink off of the tool longer. You may be placing the tool too deep under the water.
b) Your tool (brush or stick) may have absorbed water and is mixing the water with the ink; try wiping the excess liquid from the tool in a paper towel and then reload with ink.
c) Your paper isn’t absorbing the ink correctly. Try a different type of paper or try treating your paper with Alum.
d) If you have used an Alum treated paper, you may have left it in the water too long and the water has reacted with the Alum and has started to rinse it off. Be a bit faster with your printing technique.
3) The ink is being pushed to the edge of the basin.
a) You have too much surfactant on the tool as it is spreading too much; try dabbing the tool that has the surfactant on a piece of paper towel first.
4) The ink rings are too thick
a) You need to reload your surfactant tool
b) You need to hold the surfactant tool on the top of the water longer.
5) You try to print the Suminagashi and it doesn’t transfer to the paper or is blurry.
a) Your paper is not absorbing the ink enough. This is the most frustrating problem as it is sometimes hard to find a paper that works. Use one of my recommended types of paper or treat your paper with alum.
b) Try rinsing your paper gently in a clean water bath right after printing.
Supply List:
• Rectangular Tray (a couple of inches larger than your paper that you will be printing on).
• Carrageenan
• Alum
• Surfactant (Kodak Photoflo or Ox Gall)
• Ink
• Paper (white newsprint for practice, uncoated cover stock for quality prints)
• Brush or wooden chopstick
• Demineralized water (optional)
• Fan, straw, hair or pet whisker
• Newspapers
• Paper towel
• Plastic lids
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The type of ink used definitely DOES matter, most will sink because in true suminagashi, you don't thicken the water - just plain water.
You are correct. I did not do true suminagashi though and other factors like water hardness tend to come into play as well.
True. This is her own customized adaptation, somewhere in the same neighbourhood as Ebru & Suminagashi 👍🏻
Where do you find colored sumi ink? I can only find black and red. The set I have from Aitoh Boku-Undo all sink (perhaps they're old?) and I can imagine there is a better quality out there.
Which type of ink is the correct one then?
what type of ink did you used? a special specific one or simple chemical ink?
Hi there. Thank you for your comment. Sorry about the delayed reply. I use Acrylic Artists Ink for coloured ink and artist quality india ink for the black.
This should be renamed Turkish Marbling not Suminagashi. They are both marbling but the difference between the two is using a thickener and the alum in Turkish Marbling and in Suminagashi only water and ink are used and the ink floats by not ever breaking the tension on the top of the water. Once the tip of the brush goes below the water the ink sinks to the bottom.
So you did the Turkish marbling Ebru. Sumanugashi doesn't use any size. Only Ebru does. I've seen both and Ebru is WAY more vibrant whereas Sumanugasi is "purist" for lack of a better word. Both are AWESOME
AND I ALWAYS SPELL SUM... incorrectly ugh. Lol
yes, you are correct. Thank you for your comments.
durotha ates I agree.☺🎨
Its Suminagashi not Sumanugashi.
Hi,
This video has been so informative, thank you.
You have been thorough with your description, of the process.
I live in Africa, and the term that you used, 'deminerised water' is foreign to me?
I don't believe, that it the same as 'distilled' water.
Could you shed some light, on my query, above please?
My sincere thanks.
Vinnie 🇿🇦
Really, you should not label your tutorial as suminagashi. It is not. Carageenan or other thickeners are not used. Newsprint is non-archival and really low quality paper not meant for finished prints. Also, never iron alum treated paper or fabric!
what if the sumi ink immediately drops and won't spread out what are the possible causes?
I actually used a collagen peptide (drink supplement) I use for the gym to thicken the water and it worked! Pretty cheap and thickens the water quickly without discoloring the paper. Also no wait time. Thanks for all the other tips! Worked great!
Hey Steph Wolf 😊 I just read your comment and was curious what brand of collagen you used 🤔 I was thinking of picking up a packet at the store.. instead of buying a whole container.. thanks so much!
It may possibly result in bugs being more attracted to the final artwork… collagen being protein, some bugs, in the long run.. over the years, may end up considering the paper as a tempting food source -
We bought a good sized disposable aluminum pan for the water and when we carried it from the sink it collapsed on us...just saying
Thanks for the tip. I bought one for this, I might get a jug and fill it up so it doesn’t have to be moved.
Have you tried "thick it" for the water? It's WAY cheaper!
Realy thank you for this video. I only have some questions : when do you use the ox gall ? I don't know what is photoflow ? Thanks for you're answer. I wright you from France, sorry for my horrible english :)
Why do you pronounce suminagshi so weird?
Bonsoir peux Peut-on travailler sur le tissu avec cet méthodes merci
the best video so far!!!!
Thank you for this video, it's been incredibly helpful!!
Thank you Catherine! I am glad to help.
Thank you very much for this video! I loved all the tips, but most of all, I loved that you reuse the water!!! I was very concern about throwing the water every time you make a new print! So, you are saving the waters planet too! Also, I appreciate the names of the materials you used. Blessings for you!
Thank you Patricia!
I am at the point you were at, and your video so far, has been invaluable. You are saving me a TON of frustration! TYSVM!
aww thank you
Thankyou for the video.can you recommend a brand of 80 lb unsized paper. I don't want to purchase the wrong type
Thank you so much for your explanation. Can you paint on fabric like this?
Great video, thanks for the tips. I tried to make it today, but my ink sunk. Will try to get more of the supplies you recommended. Very helpful
Great tutorial! I'm wondering how you prepared the carrageenan mixture? The packet I found doesn't have any instructions.
Did you use acrylic ink? They look like the daler rowney inks...is that right?
Turkish marbling is interesting too. And has been around for thousands of years.
I love your suminagashi instruction thank you,.
Curious why you completely bypassed speaking about the inks. I use calligraphy Sumi inks but I also have some coloured calligraphy inks. Some are acrylics which may or may not work in this case... hmmm.
When I did this video there was no detailed info out there about any of this (and believe me - I looked) so I learned through many trials and many errors. Since that time, suminagashi has been somewhat on-trend and as this art has caught on, there is more and more info out there about the inks and details about the method. If I would have known about the way different inks float, I may not have used any size. This was simply my method that I used through many trials and errors.
This really helped me make this kind of art! Thank you for this tutorial! Great video!
But most of them said that all you need is water and ink and soapy water?????use plain
Judi Spackman True Suminagashi uses a certain ink which works with basically just plain water - but this video seems to be an explanation of more specifically her own version of the process- borrowing from all kinds of marbling/Ebru/sumi.
Search for “Ebru Marbling” :)
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Hi Natalie!! Thanks for the video.Your explanation is great!!I wanted to ask you how do you treat the paper with alum.Is there a tip you can give me to get the best result?
I mixed it in a spray bottle with water, then just sprayed the paper and let it dry. This seemed to help make the ink much more vibrant and also help to eliminate bleeding.
Your presentation is highly informative and most helpful this explains the process very well, and is also an excellent presentation of the Suminagashi technique. Thanks!!
Thank you!
Thanks for your detail explanation. Really appreciate it 😁
Awesome and so helpful! Thank you!
You helped me a lot. Thank you
I love your tutorial on this. What kind of ink do you actually use - there are so many out there. Oil base? Acrylic? Thank you so much.
Hi there. Thank you for your comment. Sorry about the delayed reply. I use Acrylic Artists Ink for the coloured ink and artist quality india ink for the black. You could try an oil based ink though - it may have some interesting effects as it should float on the top of the water. I haven't tried that but a lot that I learned was simply from trial and error.
+Natalie T Hallo, for ox gall see: www.schmincke.de, very good produkts for artists. You can find Canadian retailers in the Homepage. Greetings from Austria
I just did my first Suminagashi using Golden Fluid Acrylic, PhotoFlo with Japanese Sketch paper and Strathmore Parchment - I’m very happy with both and enjoyed the crispness and vibrancy of the parchment. Used tap water. I have some distilled water, Sumi ink, alum and water thickener that I’ll try in the future. Right now I will explore the traditional Japanese techniques. Thank you for the excellent tutorial
Hello! You know if this products and techniques goes well with leather?
I am sorry, I don't know for sure. You may have to experiment with proper leather ink/paint and perhaps thicken up your water (like Ebru) to hold the ink on top. You may want to Google and see if someone else has tried. :)
Thank you! I search for videos or tutorials with leather and they don't explain properly. Your video is so helpful and good that I will try as you suggest. :)
Thank you!
This is a GREAT Tutorial... "Thank YOU"
oh you're welcome -- it's the only video that I've ever done :)
is there a substitute for alum?
Gosh, I am not sure, this was just what I used... sorry I couldn't be of more help :)
Natalie T I have since learned the answer to that question..... photo paper. it does the same thing ....fix the inks or media and pops the colors. I learned that from someone else who does not have alum either. she said "don't need it if you use photo paper" ....it was like a "duh" moment.
Great to know, thank you!
Natalie T also had good luck with plain Hammermill paper....but DON'T rinse it. just let it dry. the colors will be muted but that's OK.