If it makes any difference, you touched this jaded romanian gamer's heart (nostalgia wise) with your great videos and tests. As a fresh owner of a used Geforce 4 Ti4600 (and a desire to build a Win98 retro pc around it), it always brightens my day a bit when you upload something. Keep it up man, I believe you're on the right track.
I can second this statement, your channel helped inspire me to rebuild my first Xp build from 2004. It's now a circa 2008 Xp pc thanks to the retro rabbit hole.
You make me really want to start my RUclips channel. My collection is approaching 650 graphics cards and more coming regularly so I've got a lot of material to cover. And I wont mention the rest of the collection...that's nearly hoarder level. I'm also very interested in the underdogs, forgotten brands or ones that never made great cards. These are actually the cards many remember as they used them in their family computers (nobody had a Voodoo around me). Maybe we could collaborate?
I loved it Nathan. I really do enjoy these Q & A type videos. And I think there are some really heartfelt and sincere moments in the video. So it was a great watch and there is much to enjoy here. I would be more than happy to see more of these Q & A type vids in the future as well. It does bring back many past memories of happy and exciting times, and firmly puts me into nostalgia mode. And you did answer our most burning questions, so as subscribers there is much to enjoy here. Thanks again for the vid Nathan, this was a terrific surprise to find in my inbox on a lazy Sunday morning. I couldn't have woken up to anything better than more Pixel Pipes content.
Nathan, I really liked your channel (nearly) from the start. I discovered you with your Thinkpad 760XL video back in 2016... time goes on sooo quick !! To me it was like yesterday. I'm really glad that you've done a Q&A video, a nice surprise as I haven't been notified concerning the community tab stuff. I also have the Asrock AM3/AM2+ AGP and a Phenom x4 975 OCed to 4GHz and I totally agree with you, it's a really nice board (though the southbridge IS DAMN HOT) and not that sought after compared to other boards. I happened to test it on Windows 98SE (it works if you add by yourself a "PCI bus"using the new hardware in the control panel, it allows the OS to detect the rest of the components so you can use an AGP card / tested successfully with Geforce256 DDR and 6800Ultra) 'cause I was lazy to install Windows XP lol. Really impressed that the cpu score on 3DMARK99 was about the same as an i7 920 @4GHz :) I think i'll do one day to start a YT channel a video presenting the "ultimate AGP build" with an HD3850 on it and windows XP :) Keep up the good work dude !
I have the same FX5900 Ultra Winfast TDH. Awesome card, strange looking, but the huge metal shroud and twin angle fans do a great job in cooling the card and it's relatively quiet. Benching it against a 9800 XT it performs pretty well. As a Quake III OSP card in a retro build it's awesome!
i love all your videos keep up the good work, I was so happy to see my comment in the video that made my whole day :D My love for retro tech is only getting larger from watching your videos its so fun learning about it, my collection is slowing growing and growing and its amazing
For me the fun about old graphic cards is all that I miss for not having the money, now I can actually tell what I was missing back then when I was a kid with no money.
Awesome video as always. Definitely recomend a Quadro FX3000 if going for a XP gaming machine focused on 5900/5950U. Cheaper than those cards and Overclock to 5900/5950u speeds with ease. Better value and more practical than using a actual Geforce 5 series card in a build since they sell for way over 100$ and having it fail would suck. I purchased a FX 3000 and it overclocks to 475/475 fine I plan to mod the bios and flash it to a 5950u. Whilst I do physically own a Leadtek 5950u I wouldn't ever use it in a build. For getting good deals of graphics cards eBay may not be your best place to look but not to say i haven't found good deals there...you need to be quick and have stuff saved in your search and check regularly. I've found better deals on local or other sites. Even going outside and hitting up local used shops or Computer Recycling places. I'm pretty much done with my collecting soon, I'm only after 10 or so cards and I will have a complete collection of mid range to High end AGP cards from Nvidia and ATI.
would like to thankyou for being 1 of the few youtubers thats not in it for the money . i only rescently found & subscribed so i'm still going through your older videos & really enjoying the trips down memory lane .... so tp speak .. Well done ..
Currently rocking a Quadro FX 3000 in the "retro" PC, softmodded to FX5900. When this video was made you could probably find one for sub-$100. I got mine a few years earlier for a cool $30. In 2022? Not so much.. it's only gotten harder. Even 2MX cards are going up. On #8: we tended to take what few stand-out items we liked from old proprietary specs and create more common ones out of them. S3 gave us S3TC (which became DXT1) and Imagination's tile-based deferred rendering mechanism set us up for much greater levels of parallelism in graphics processing when everybody else jumped on.
Great video Nathan. I appreciate all the informations you sharing with us. You're right. Computer 3D graphics is fascinating. And collecting retro hardware is a beautiful hobby. Especially when you build a dream PC of a specific era that you could't afford back in those days. You put it together all this stuff and it works and shines and brings back the sweet memories.
As a dude that has written Direct3D8 and Direct3D9 applications I can safely say you don't need to be good at math to program 3D applications from scratch using a DirectX API. Just some programming passion is all someone would need. It might be cool if there was a Direct3D PixelPipes test program? Great channel 👍
Hi Nathan, nice to hear a little more about you ;) Although I missed the right place and moment to ask you question, I have one here: what was the graphic setting you struggled the most to enable in a game? (and have playable framerate) For me was 'cube mapping' in Colin Mc Rally 2.0; to play with that feature enabled I had to wait for a loong time
for me, PowerSGL is my favorite proprietary API, so many games both looked and ran so amazing on powersgl mode... even better the more rare powersgl+3dnow versions of games like quake/quake2/unreal...
My hope is that one day you get your hands on the 3dfx Specter prototype cards!!! would love to see what you can do with them. Maybe actually compare them to the Geforce 3 which was the card they would have competed against.
the problem with the Spectre prototype (there should be only one working sample) is that drivers are so early that just obtaining a stable 3D image is already a huge goal and any performance measure is unfortunately pointless. At least this was the situation the last time I heard about it, no idea who is owning the prototype at the moment or if any progress has been done on drivers side
They only made around a dozen such cards at the most and like the other guy said good luck trying to find one working plus they're probably worth well north of $10k on the open market.
The Parhelia isn't the first consumer GPU to do 3 monitors, but the big difference is it did 3 independent displays. With my Radeon VE and Radeon 8500 (and future nVIDIA cards), I had 2 monitors, and the TV-out would mirror the primary or secondary display. As far as I remember, I wasn't able to independently run the TV-out unless you didn't have a second monitor. Even as a kid, I had 2 monitors and hoped more games would support it. Serious Sam was the first game I remember supporting 2 monitors. The other was Total Commander? Something like that. I don't remember any other game supporting it other than some early multiplayer VR titles though.
I started in 1998 and tended to hold on to my Hardware, then I bought out the inventory of a place called Computer Renaissance/Computerz and More that had a LOT of older hardware and software when it went belly up. We also have a local Goodwill Computer Bytes store, though lately they have been overpricing some of their stuff.
40:00 I don't know anything about the 2900 series -- I was in the nVidia camp at the time and never gave it a look. Maybe a quick overview video about it and a few unique things about it, plus a link over to F2F's videos as a sort of springboard would be nice?
i just scored a 6800 Ultra for $30 on ebay because the seller had it listed as an 8800Ultra mistakenly, they clearly didnt know what they had but i did. right place at the right time!
Its shocking how rare the 5800 ultra is, everywhere you look 5900 and 5950 ultras are everywhere even the 5700 ultra is pretty common, I found 1 with a garbage heatsink design and it was 800 bucks
3:24 Hey i took a notepad and printed pictures of all top models from ATI to make "The book of Radeons" that was crazy back then as i was on their side back then.
Ooh, a board with an AGP slot that actually supports the Phenom X2 series processors certainly is an unusual thing. I had thought that AGP was fully phased out by then. Running one of the six-core Phenom II processors in that thing should make for a monstrously over-specced test platform for AGP card testing. Presumably it also has PCI card slots as well, so it would be useful as a constant for such benchmarking. That was honestly the last generation where AMD had any legitimate competitive parts in the CPU market until Zen launched. Piledriver and Bulldozer were just failed architectures. Too power-hungry, poor branch prediction, shared floating point units that basically rendered an 8-core processor into a 4-core processor... It was just bad.
@14:00 : i also have a habit to collect retro(only nVIDIA though) GPUs for my own collection. I almost never throw away the GPUs i've used through the years ,but i also paid for some GPUs which were special for me but never managed to own them during their time. I recently bought a *GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB* (100€ ) and a *GeForce 8800GTS 320MB* (45€ ) ,since they were too expensive for me during their time and i had an obsession to buy them some day. (---P.S.: I actually always wanted an 8800GT ,but the only 45€ cost of the 8800GTS made me buy this one instead. )
heh, back in the day at least, we used modified drivers on many gf and quadro cards to get them to be seen as the other, softquadro/softgeforce was a thing... back before you had windows freak out that your drivers were not signed!!!
Got two engineering sample laptops one being a very late 2008 Alienware M17x R1 (pre-production unit) that has some differences from the retail models.
Hi Nathan, thanks for answering my question and I must say you really really have some gems in ypur collection. Hope your offspring will one day share the same enthusiasm with you, for this nice hobby 😁
Explore IBM, DEC (Graphics Chips), Intergraph (Realizm), 3Dlabs little Mix of Super Cards, Need more Power Just Add a Extra Chip set and your off..I started with the Intergraph Intense 3D 1000-T, Dual Pentium Pro,256MB ECC, I spent a Good $8,000 thru all the upgrades of the cards for a good 6 year..
Wish I had an XGI Volari Duo working... but they are rare and so expensive... I have most everything else including at least 3 working and 1 not working FX5800 Ultra. 2 of which was the Asus with different heatsink design... 1 BFG and other I think possibly pre production release. I was collecting alot of AGP cards some PCIE from 10yrs back.. IDK why I spent so much many I cleaned up, refurbished and tested/benchmarked... now they just sit in my huge closet.
i love your videos i was working as recycling for computers in my citys main place in 2014 and the back rooms had to be cleaned so i went to take a look and there was 2 book shelfs full off allkind off gpu from ati 9700 9800 nvidia 8800 gtx gts and newer i took 20 cards that day to home becouse they were trown out else so it was great start fro my collecting and still to this day i go and ask the guy in there if i can chek the back rooms and buy old gpu and have to only pay 10 euros for 1 pound off cards
Beyond3d..... nice. Nothing reminded me I don't know crap, like a trip to beyond3d. I'd love to see an old graphics card in that AGP to PCI-E adapter from albatross, Battle it out with an i7.
I had an HD 2900GT 256MB and cannot seem to find it anywhere anymore. Can you tell me how rare that card is? My understanding is it was just a cutdown HD 2900PRO and you couldn't flash it so it never sold well but it was priced accordingly at the time and actually performed well for the price.
I never heard anyone refer to the 2900GT as rare, but sometimes there are dry spells of anything 2900 related on eBay, because in general it wasn't the best-selling line of cards.
Thanks for the answer although the shortest one! I actually have an Asus fx 5900 ultra and just wondering what is your card temps under load? Using hwinfo & rivatuner ss to monitor GPU temperature I got over 100 C in heavy games and the interesting part is the slow down temp in the driver control panel is 140 C at least the Asus model! The paste are changed of course
I can't say off hand but I really don't think I got nearly that high. 100C has to be a misread or a faulty sensor. You better make sure the paste is good on there.
@@PixelPipes I changed the paste twice just to be sure. not any difference.. to be fair I got that temp on hot days of summer without any good airflow, with open sidepanel I got 87-90 under load. if you want to monitor your temps and GPU/CPU usage in-game on Windows XP or later you can download the latest versions of "HWiNFO" & "Rivatuner statistics server" (yes both still work on XP!) and use them to monitor the values. I'll be waiting for your review ;)
The IHS on these cards is really flimsy. I had a similar issue when removing the cooler off my reference model. The paste connecting the die to the IHS finally gave up and detached. Only solution was to delid and run a different cooler
My Gainward Single slot card which is similar to your card hits 86c under load. Badly designed cooler. Recommend removing the shim if your brave enough or getting a aftermarket cooler for it. Or even maxing fan speed via Rivatuner
@@AshTechCorner Thanks! I can remove the shim but it kinda ruins the aesthetic of the card. wondering if slapping an 80 mm fan right under it would help it much...
Workstation cards are mostly attractive because they are typically cheaper than whatever card they are based on it. I can get a Parhelia-LX (workstation version of Parhelia) for like $20. Try finding one of the consumer ones for that much money.
@@wishusknight3009 Not always. Quadro NVS-280 (PCI version) has same specs as the FX 5500 AGP. NVS-280 AGP has lower memory clock, but not PCI version for some reason.
@@harryshuman9637 I was referring to the ParheliaLX in particular. The one you mentioned has half the number of rendering pipelines and units compared to consumer variants for example. I suppose its a good cheap way to explore what the capabilities of that chip are, but not its performance. Quadro cards are a mixed bag, but you can find some really good cards out there for sure if you know what you are looking at. The one that I have modded to be an FX5500 PCI actually works in my Asus TX97 where as for some reason the consumer versions have conflict with the PCI controller of the TX chipset. So that is telling me there may be higher quality buffering on the quadro cards.
@@harryshuman9637 I use both a intel 200MMX and occasonally install a K6-2 that I run at 400mhz 6x66mhz., As for the model of the card, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, I would need to dig down to find the computer. Phils computer lab has tried the nearly identical card only it was a branded fx5500. Turns out mine was a different revision PCB than his but they looked otherwise identical but for their vbios and a couple of resisters on the backside. And a couple of other subtle component differences. His did not work on any intel socket 7 motherboard he owned.
I do! Though I would probably rank things differently now a decade later... docs.google.com/document/d/1IDrxH5VUj868Uf3trfmGui2UEeeNhr4ZzPMxVzIZoaI/edit?usp=sharing
you should volt mod and overclock your collection of ancient gpus! use that cool asrock board, i bought it from eBay cheap a few years ago but it was a dead board, no beep codes even, had to return it :( that ended my AGP experiments.
back in the day, i won a 5800ultra, after trying to use it for a while and finding it worse then the base 256mb 9600 in the titles i wanted to play... a buddy who was super into linux and sure linux gaming was gonna takeover.... offered me more then the MSRP of the card, if i would trade him a 9600 for the 5800ultra.. it was too loud, too hot, and, honestly just a really crap card... but, i will admit, had i know it would skyrocket in value decades later, i would have gotten it back from him when he moved on..heh... that card was a damn dustbuster from hell... holy crap my ears are still ringing all these years later!!! ;) (i use the money he gave me to do other upgrades, the 9600 was plenty for the games i played at the time, and, turned out the ver he got me, had the exact same ram as the 9600xt 256mb cards they were selling, replaced the cooler, and it ran at XT clocks... eventually i got ahold of an unlockable 9500pro... that ended up flashed to a 9700pro or 9800pro bios... that cards still functional in a buddies retro system... he paid well for a box of my old stuff back in the day, i later learned he mostly wanted that card and my 2 kyro 2 cards that had the SE bios flashed to them (higher clocks was the main thing the SE bios had...) he had always wanted both... i dont regret it, he actually uses all of the parts hes gotten off me other then a huge box of old dialup modems...he has a weird fixation with modems... hes got several large totes of them... good ones to the worst you can imagine ....
I sold half of my collection of 30 years for 150 euro to Retrospector78 he has a youtube vlog, still have very old stuff and I am planning to sell all of it.
If it makes any difference, you touched this jaded romanian gamer's heart (nostalgia wise) with your great videos and tests. As a fresh owner of a used Geforce 4 Ti4600 (and a desire to build a Win98 retro pc around it), it always brightens my day a bit when you upload something. Keep it up man, I believe you're on the right track.
I can second this statement, your channel helped inspire me to rebuild my first Xp build from 2004. It's now a circa 2008 Xp pc thanks to the retro rabbit hole.
You make me really want to start my RUclips channel. My collection is approaching 650 graphics cards and more coming regularly so I've got a lot of material to cover. And I wont mention the rest of the collection...that's nearly hoarder level.
I'm also very interested in the underdogs, forgotten brands or ones that never made great cards. These are actually the cards many remember as they used them in their family computers (nobody had a Voodoo around me). Maybe we could collaborate?
"How did it all begin?" ... I enter first bin :-)
I loved it Nathan. I really do enjoy these Q & A type videos. And I think there are some really heartfelt and sincere moments in the video. So it was a great watch and there is much to enjoy here. I would be more than happy to see more of these Q & A type vids in the future as well. It does bring back many past memories of happy and exciting times, and firmly puts me into nostalgia mode. And you did answer our most burning questions, so as subscribers there is much to enjoy here.
Thanks again for the vid Nathan, this was a terrific surprise to find in my inbox on a lazy Sunday morning. I couldn't have woken up to anything better than more Pixel Pipes content.
Nathan, I really liked your channel (nearly) from the start. I discovered you with your Thinkpad 760XL video back in 2016... time goes on sooo quick !! To me it was like yesterday. I'm really glad that you've done a Q&A video, a nice surprise as I haven't been notified concerning the community tab stuff. I also have the Asrock AM3/AM2+ AGP and a Phenom x4 975 OCed to 4GHz and I totally agree with you, it's a really nice board (though the southbridge IS DAMN HOT) and not that sought after compared to other boards. I happened to test it on Windows 98SE (it works if you add by yourself a "PCI bus"using the new hardware in the control panel, it allows the OS to detect the rest of the components so you can use an AGP card / tested successfully with Geforce256 DDR and 6800Ultra) 'cause I was lazy to install Windows XP lol. Really impressed that the cpu score on 3DMARK99 was about the same as an i7 920 @4GHz :) I think i'll do one day to start a YT channel a video presenting the "ultimate AGP build" with an HD3850 on it and windows XP :)
Keep up the good work dude !
I have the same FX5900 Ultra Winfast TDH. Awesome card, strange looking, but the huge metal shroud and twin angle fans do a great job in cooling the card and it's relatively quiet. Benching it against a 9800 XT it performs pretty well. As a Quake III OSP card in a retro build it's awesome!
i love all your videos keep up the good work, I was so happy to see my comment in the video that made my whole day :D
My love for retro tech is only getting larger from watching your videos its so fun learning about it, my collection is slowing growing and growing and its amazing
He is gay
Love the fact that your staying real in not requesting money for support...your doing it out of love...
Lol there's ads on the video... I'm sure he loves doing what he does but it's not like he's doing it for free...
@@hi_tech_reptiles Yeah I'm not completely altruistic lol
For me the fun about old graphic cards is all that I miss for not having the money, now I can actually tell what I was missing back then when I was a kid with no money.
Awesome video as always.
Definitely recomend a Quadro FX3000 if going for a XP gaming machine focused on 5900/5950U. Cheaper than those cards and Overclock to 5900/5950u speeds with ease. Better value and more practical than using a actual Geforce 5 series card in a build since they sell for way over 100$ and having it fail would suck. I purchased a FX 3000 and it overclocks to 475/475 fine I plan to mod the bios and flash it to a 5950u. Whilst I do physically own a Leadtek 5950u I wouldn't ever use it in a build.
For getting good deals of graphics cards eBay may not be your best place to look but not to say i haven't found good deals there...you need to be quick and have stuff saved in your search and check regularly. I've found better deals on local or other sites. Even going outside and hitting up local used shops or Computer Recycling places.
I'm pretty much done with my collecting soon, I'm only after 10 or so cards and I will have a complete collection of mid range to High end AGP cards from Nvidia and ATI.
would like to thankyou for being 1 of the few youtubers thats not in it for the money . i only rescently found & subscribed so i'm still going through your older videos & really enjoying the trips down memory lane .... so tp speak .. Well done ..
Thank you! Enjoy! (My first few videos are pretty rough)
Two more questions:
How many graphics cards do you have ?
Do you have a list of them ?
Currently rocking a Quadro FX 3000 in the "retro" PC, softmodded to FX5900. When this video was made you could probably find one for sub-$100. I got mine a few years earlier for a cool $30. In 2022? Not so much.. it's only gotten harder. Even 2MX cards are going up.
On #8: we tended to take what few stand-out items we liked from old proprietary specs and create more common ones out of them. S3 gave us S3TC (which became DXT1) and Imagination's tile-based deferred rendering mechanism set us up for much greater levels of parallelism in graphics processing when everybody else jumped on.
Glad to see a new video presentation again. Thanks Nathan
Great video Nathan. I appreciate all the informations you sharing with us. You're right. Computer 3D graphics is fascinating. And collecting retro hardware is a beautiful hobby. Especially when you build a dream PC of a specific era that you could't afford back in those days. You put it together all this stuff and it works and shines and brings back the sweet memories.
As a dude that has written Direct3D8 and Direct3D9 applications I can safely say you don't need to be good at math to program 3D applications from scratch using a DirectX API. Just some programming passion is all someone would need. It might be cool if there was a Direct3D PixelPipes test program? Great channel 👍
Hi Nathan, nice to hear a little more about you ;)
Although I missed the right place and moment to ask you question, I have one here: what was the graphic setting you struggled the most to enable in a game? (and have playable framerate) For me was 'cube mapping' in Colin Mc Rally 2.0; to play with that feature enabled I had to wait for a loong time
Im not Nathan but for it was shader model 2.0 MoH Pacific Assault and Call of Duty 2:) Had to wait loong time too.
for me, PowerSGL is my favorite proprietary API, so many games both looked and ran so amazing on powersgl mode... even better the more rare powersgl+3dnow versions of games like quake/quake2/unreal...
My hope is that one day you get your hands on the 3dfx Specter prototype cards!!! would love to see what you can do with them. Maybe actually compare them to the Geforce 3 which was the card they would have competed against.
the problem with the Spectre prototype (there should be only one working sample) is that drivers are so early that just obtaining a stable 3D image is already a huge goal and any performance measure is unfortunately pointless. At least this was the situation the last time I heard about it, no idea who is owning the prototype at the moment or if any progress has been done on drivers side
They only made around a dozen such cards at the most and like the other guy said good luck trying to find one working plus they're probably worth well north of $10k on the open market.
your videos are so relaxing!
Enjoyed it Nathan!
Thank you
This was a very interesting perspective to hear.
The Parhelia isn't the first consumer GPU to do 3 monitors, but the big difference is it did 3 independent displays. With my Radeon VE and Radeon 8500 (and future nVIDIA cards), I had 2 monitors, and the TV-out would mirror the primary or secondary display. As far as I remember, I wasn't able to independently run the TV-out unless you didn't have a second monitor.
Even as a kid, I had 2 monitors and hoped more games would support it. Serious Sam was the first game I remember supporting 2 monitors. The other was Total Commander? Something like that. I don't remember any other game supporting it other than some early multiplayer VR titles though.
I started in 1998 and tended to hold on to my Hardware, then I bought out the inventory of a place called Computer Renaissance/Computerz and More that had a LOT of older hardware and software when it went belly up. We also have a local Goodwill Computer Bytes store, though lately they have been overpricing some of their stuff.
Good sir, You've earned a new suscription.
Bro... same exact same concept here, ended up becoming a 3D Modeler... I had the 6800 ultra as well but in 04
Whens the next Pixel Talk Podcast? :P
Make it happen guys!
40:00 I don't know anything about the 2900 series -- I was in the nVidia camp at the time and never gave it a look.
Maybe a quick overview video about it and a few unique things about it, plus a link over to F2F's videos as a sort of springboard would be nice?
I'll figure out......SOMETHING, I don't know what. I suppose as long as it's entertaining, gj right?
i just scored a 6800 Ultra for $30 on ebay because the seller had it listed as an 8800Ultra mistakenly, they clearly didnt know what they had but i did. right place at the right time!
Oh, super nice!
Its shocking how rare the 5800 ultra is, everywhere you look 5900 and 5950 ultras are everywhere even the 5700 ultra is pretty common, I found 1 with a garbage heatsink design and it was 800 bucks
Thanx for another great video 📹
3:24 Hey i took a notepad and printed pictures of all top models from ATI to make "The book of Radeons" that was crazy back then as i was on their side back then.
Haha nice
Ooh, a board with an AGP slot that actually supports the Phenom X2 series processors certainly is an unusual thing. I had thought that AGP was fully phased out by then. Running one of the six-core Phenom II processors in that thing should make for a monstrously over-specced test platform for AGP card testing. Presumably it also has PCI card slots as well, so it would be useful as a constant for such benchmarking. That was honestly the last generation where AMD had any legitimate competitive parts in the CPU market until Zen launched. Piledriver and Bulldozer were just failed architectures. Too power-hungry, poor branch prediction, shared floating point units that basically rendered an 8-core processor into a 4-core processor... It was just bad.
Indeed they are very powerful AGP test platforms. Among the best
I got an FX 5950 Ultra on launch day.
Absolutely no idea where it is now lol
had a Geforce 256 as well, same problem
@PixelPipes do you have the vQuake port, I am looking for that but I didn't find any on the Internet. If you could upload that port 😀
I believe this is where I got it: gona.mactar.hu/v1000/
@@PixelPipes thanks
@14:00 :
i also have a habit to collect retro(only nVIDIA though) GPUs for my own collection.
I almost never throw away the GPUs i've used through the years ,but i also paid for some GPUs which were special for me but never managed to own them during their time.
I recently bought a *GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB* (100€ ) and a *GeForce 8800GTS 320MB* (45€ ) ,since they were too expensive for me during their time and i had an obsession to buy them some day.
(---P.S.: I actually always wanted an 8800GT ,but the only 45€ cost of the 8800GTS made me buy this one instead. )
heh, back in the day at least, we used modified drivers on many gf and quadro cards to get them to be seen as the other, softquadro/softgeforce was a thing... back before you had windows freak out that your drivers were not signed!!!
Thanks for the question response! Have to check out some rendition cards, never owned one.
Got two engineering sample laptops one being a very late 2008 Alienware M17x R1 (pre-production unit) that has some differences from the retail models.
Hi Nathan, thanks for answering my question and I must say you really really have some gems in ypur collection. Hope your offspring will one day share the same enthusiasm with you, for this nice hobby 😁
look im needy for a card send one my way ill mak damn good use of it ]
Explore IBM, DEC (Graphics Chips), Intergraph (Realizm), 3Dlabs little Mix of Super Cards, Need more Power Just Add a Extra Chip set and your off..I started with the Intergraph Intense 3D 1000-T, Dual Pentium Pro,256MB ECC, I spent a Good $8,000 thru all the upgrades of the cards for a good 6 year..
Wish I had an XGI Volari Duo working... but they are rare and so expensive... I have most everything else including at least 3 working and 1 not working FX5800 Ultra. 2 of which was the Asus with different heatsink design... 1 BFG and other I think possibly pre production release. I was collecting alot of AGP cards some PCIE from 10yrs back.. IDK why I spent so much many I cleaned up, refurbished and tested/benchmarked... now they just sit in my huge closet.
i love your videos i was working as recycling for computers in my citys main place in 2014 and the back rooms had to be cleaned so i went to take a look and there was 2 book shelfs full off allkind off gpu from ati 9700 9800 nvidia 8800 gtx gts and newer i took 20 cards that day to home becouse they were trown out else so it was great start fro my collecting and still to this day i go and ask the guy in there if i can chek the back rooms and buy old gpu and have to only pay 10 euros for 1 pound off cards
To think I picked up a pair of new old stock Voodoo 2s in 2016 for £55. Would be lucky to get a single used one for that now.
46:36 Probably Geforce 256's. They are vicious towards other GPU's as you know.
Beyond3d..... nice. Nothing reminded me I don't know crap, like a trip to beyond3d.
I'd love to see an old graphics card in that AGP to PCI-E adapter from albatross, Battle it out with an i7.
Got a FX 5950U for 5 bucks. Beat that haha
I can't!
I had an HD 2900GT 256MB and cannot seem to find it anywhere anymore. Can you tell me how rare that card is? My understanding is it was just a cutdown HD 2900PRO and you couldn't flash it so it never sold well but it was priced accordingly at the time and actually performed well for the price.
I never heard anyone refer to the 2900GT as rare, but sometimes there are dry spells of anything 2900 related on eBay, because in general it wasn't the best-selling line of cards.
Thanks for the answer although the shortest one!
I actually have an Asus fx 5900 ultra and just wondering what is your card temps under load?
Using hwinfo & rivatuner ss to monitor GPU temperature I got over 100 C in heavy games and the interesting part is the slow down temp in the driver control panel is 140 C at least the Asus model! The paste are changed of course
I can't say off hand but I really don't think I got nearly that high. 100C has to be a misread or a faulty sensor. You better make sure the paste is good on there.
@@PixelPipes I changed the paste twice just to be sure. not any difference..
to be fair I got that temp on hot days of summer without any good airflow, with open sidepanel I got 87-90 under load.
if you want to monitor your temps and GPU/CPU usage in-game on Windows XP or later you can download the latest versions of "HWiNFO" & "Rivatuner statistics server" (yes both still work on XP!) and use them to monitor the values.
I'll be waiting for your review ;)
The IHS on these cards is really flimsy. I had a similar issue when removing the cooler off my reference model. The paste connecting the die to the IHS finally gave up and detached. Only solution was to delid and run a different cooler
My Gainward Single slot card which is similar to your card hits 86c under load. Badly designed cooler. Recommend removing the shim if your brave enough or getting a aftermarket cooler for it. Or even maxing fan speed via Rivatuner
@@AshTechCorner Thanks! I can remove the shim but it kinda ruins the aesthetic of the card. wondering if slapping an 80 mm fan right under it would help it much...
Workstation cards are mostly attractive because they are typically cheaper than whatever card they are based on it.
I can get a Parhelia-LX (workstation version of Parhelia) for like $20. Try finding one of the consumer ones for that much money.
The bad thing about those ones is they are the cut down version as well. They are basically a higher clocked P550 with the pipelines halved. .
@@wishusknight3009 Not always. Quadro NVS-280 (PCI version) has same specs as the FX 5500 AGP. NVS-280 AGP has lower memory clock, but not PCI version for some reason.
@@harryshuman9637 I was referring to the ParheliaLX in particular. The one you mentioned has half the number of rendering pipelines and units compared to consumer variants for example. I suppose its a good cheap way to explore what the capabilities of that chip are, but not its performance.
Quadro cards are a mixed bag, but you can find some really good cards out there for sure if you know what you are looking at. The one that I have modded to be an FX5500 PCI actually works in my Asus TX97 where as for some reason the consumer versions have conflict with the PCI controller of the TX chipset. So that is telling me there may be higher quality buffering on the quadro cards.
@@wishusknight3009 May I ask the CPU you are using for that PCI Quadro build, and the exact model of the card?
@@harryshuman9637 I use both a intel 200MMX and occasonally install a K6-2 that I run at 400mhz 6x66mhz., As for the model of the card, I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, I would need to dig down to find the computer. Phils computer lab has tried the nearly identical card only it was a branded fx5500. Turns out mine was a different revision PCB than his but they looked otherwise identical but for their vbios and a couple of resisters on the backside. And a couple of other subtle component differences. His did not work on any intel socket 7 motherboard he owned.
46:30 Subjected to a lot of GeForces, you say... 😏😅
Do you ever consider selling hardware?
You happen to have a backup of that article?
I do! Though I would probably rank things differently now a decade later...
docs.google.com/document/d/1IDrxH5VUj868Uf3trfmGui2UEeeNhr4ZzPMxVzIZoaI/edit?usp=sharing
@@PixelPipes Thanks Nathan!
Found it on eBay
you should volt mod and overclock your collection of ancient gpus!
use that cool asrock board, i bought it from eBay cheap a few years ago but it was a dead board, no beep codes even, had to return it :(
that ended my AGP experiments.
What on earth - why is Frankie Boyle doing computer stuff?!?! (For those that don't know, Scottish comedian,check him out)
back in the day, i won a 5800ultra, after trying to use it for a while and finding it worse then the base 256mb 9600 in the titles i wanted to play... a buddy who was super into linux and sure linux gaming was gonna takeover.... offered me more then the MSRP of the card, if i would trade him a 9600 for the 5800ultra..
it was too loud, too hot, and, honestly just a really crap card...
but, i will admit, had i know it would skyrocket in value decades later, i would have gotten it back from him when he moved on..heh...
that card was a damn dustbuster from hell... holy crap my ears are still ringing all these years later!!! ;) (i use the money he gave me to do other upgrades, the 9600 was plenty for the games i played at the time, and, turned out the ver he got me, had the exact same ram as the 9600xt 256mb cards they were selling, replaced the cooler, and it ran at XT clocks... eventually i got ahold of an unlockable 9500pro... that ended up flashed to a 9700pro or 9800pro bios... that cards still functional in a buddies retro system... he paid well for a box of my old stuff back in the day, i later learned he mostly wanted that card and my 2 kyro 2 cards that had the SE bios flashed to them (higher clocks was the main thing the SE bios had...) he had always wanted both... i dont regret it, he actually uses all of the parts hes gotten off me other then a huge box of old dialup modems...he has a weird fixation with modems... hes got several large totes of them... good ones to the worst you can imagine ....
I sold half of my collection of 30 years for 150 euro to Retrospector78 he has a youtube vlog, still have very old stuff and I am planning to sell all of it.
ruclips.net/video/AZ4UKQuR3nI/видео.html ; here you can see some of the stuff.
why you are selling it? Do you plan to keep at least some of the most favourites pieces from retro collection?
No views?
must be a fresh upload
@@leneyes ya
All these cards are interesting parts of past history, but I mean it is time to use a REAL graphic card, not these.