Reading Your HOT TAKES on the June 2024 Nintendo Direct | Spicy Take Salad
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Every Nintendo Direct generates some CONTROVERSIAL opinions. The June 2024 Direct was no different.
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4 views in 5 days smh.. so sad 😔
Hot take: arlo is blue
ZeFrank is actually the guy who inspired the VlogBrothers (John and Hank Green.)
I still remember you saying Yoshi Touch and Go is a terrible game that's just a mere mini game. That was your worst take and showed how terrible taste you have, Arlo. Yoshi Touch and Go is the most innovative, interesting and the most beautiful looking game ever with its colourful sprites and soothing music.
damn, arlo got so hyped for prime 4 he unlocked time travel
I think a lot of people forget Nintendo first announced Prime 4 back in 2017 specifically for the Nintendo Switch. Keeping the release for the system is honoring their word which in my opinion is VERY important to maintain customer trust.
BoTW style.
@@bagofgroceries”I expected [the Wii U to have] an exclusive Zelda… but they took so long in making it that it ended up not being exclusive at all.” -Arlo
yeah, I'm sure there were metroid fans who bought the switch near launch because they knew prime 4 would be coming to it, announcing last minute that you'd actually need a different console to play it would've been an understandable choice all things considered, but they promised them they'd be able to play prime 4 on this system, so they're making sure you can.
my favorite example of this is that people bought a ps3 for kingdom hearts 3 and then it came out on the ps4
l meann, l could very much see them do the exact same thing as with BotW,, announce its existence near the start of the console, dont show it off in any substantial way for years and years, and then when they get closer to a release date you dual release it for both the current and the next platform. BotW was originally announced for specifically the WiiU as well, but they didnt mind going for the dual release when push came to shove
The MvC trailer was a master class in show me don’t tell me. If they made a big build up hoopla, then to reveal a retro collection, the non-fgc would be “all that hype for a retro collection?” Instead, Max getting his brain fried as a viral moment did way more to communicate to the non-fgc crowd how special this is than anything Capcom could’ve put together.
You're very right about this. I saw his reaction on Twitter and initially, I thought the over the top reaction was for farming views. Then I checked his channel out, watched how he campaigned to revive the franchise, realized that it was never going to happen and let it go. Then this drops on his lap on a Tuesday at 7am his time. No wonder he lost his mind.
I also think that it's meant to give life to the mvc yt page (which to my understanding had been inactive for a while). Coz the trailer they show there is different from the direct
They got the important opening and ending detail right. Opening the reveal with "this ones gonna take you for a ride" and using the character select theme at the end was the only way to announce this collection for those who've wanted it
The only thing that would've made it better was if the reveal had the presenter go "ITS MARVEL BAYBEE" Like Nintendos official twitter account did
@@Dasaltwarrior Nah, the Take You for a Ride line was perfect - much more subtle, and actually stopped me in my tracks and made me say "no freaking way" out loud even though I was watching the Direct alone.
@@muffin_man281 A random Tuesday on a random Nintendo Direct when multiple other bigger events had come and gone, and THE biggest fighting game tournament in the world is happening next month.
It's not just like if, as Arlo said, Metroid Prime 4 was just randomly stuck in the middle of the Direct. It's like if Metroid Prime 4 randomly dropped the trailer in the Summer Game Fest with a Nintendo Direct already announced. It's an impossible thing happening in the place that's even less possible than the other place.
My (not) spicy take is that Ace Attorney Investigations 2 getting an official localization is awesome news and everyone here should play it
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I am going to miss some of the fan names though. "Eddie Fender" has definitely grown on me, but I'm still going to miss "Raymond Shields"
YES!
@@druidt8949 I still think Raymond Shields is better
@@druidt8949 I always thought "Justine Courtney" was a little too on the nose, so I'm okay with the name she's getting.
Eustice Winner though...
The wildly different gameplay seen in echoes of wisdom very likely *IS* because Zelda is the protagonist this time.
Not in a "Oh she can't be a HERO, cause she's the PRINCESS" way; that's stupid.
But rather in a "She relies on a fundamentally different set of skills from Link, and represents an entirely different piece of the triforce. Of course her gameplay would be different." sort of way.
This shouldn’t really be surprising. Zelda’s a thinker, and a leader. I had personally thought that a top-down city-building/unit-management game would work well and play into Zelda’s role as a leader, but EoW is honestly not too far off from that idea, just much smaller in scale.
Given Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with the gameplay concept first and then decided that Zelda would be a better fit for the gameplay than Link. Nintendo is generally gameplay-first after all, and it wouldn't be the first time they chose a character to fit a gameplay concept.
For an example, Captain Toad: Nintendo came up with the idea of a puzzle-platformer where the character can't jump, then they decided that Captain Toad would fit as the protagonist because his backpack could justify being unable to jump.
If zelda was fighting with a sword I wouldn't play it period, I don't want "female link", I want zelda. She deserves to have her own unique identity instead of just being "the girl character".
Granted I think it would have been smarter to make her a combat mage instead of a necromancer/summoner, but her gameplay impacts both puzzle progression AND combat so it's still very in line with the wielder of wisdom.
The only time I wanna see zelda fighting with proper weaponry and things is in hyrule warriors titles, and if they ever do a game where the big 3 all have their triforces swapped and zelda gets power/courage and has to be the hero instead (which would be a cool idea nintendo make that happen, and a zelda rpg with more playable races please🙏).
@@matthewmuir8884 I can believe this. I seem to recall how Aonuma over the years has said something along the lines of how they wouldn't want a playable Zelda to be identical to Link or something to that effect when it comes to movesets when the topic of playable Zelda has come up. I imagine this was in the concept phase and they thought that Zelda would be a better fit than Link.
People got spoiled by the unrealistic expectations set in the Hyrule Warriors games
Zelda isn't a warrior, that's pretty obvious otherwise she'd be the one wielding the Master Sword. The only times she's been more proactive was when she was Tetra rather than Zelda, and when she was a spirit able to possess things with natural power.
Honestly, all ya need to know about Sylux is that he hates Samus, hates the Galactic Federation, and has access to Metroids
His more in-depth lore, origins, and backstory are largely unknown, and aside from what I listed above, all we know about him is he's allied with the space pirates and has a stolen Federation tech
Hell, he's pretty much the one bounty hunter from Hunters we know the least about, only that he hated Samus and feds, with no explanation as to why, at least we know with Weaval his grudge is so bad because Samus maimed him on a mission since he was a Space Pirate, so honestly they picked the one guy from that game who has the least issue with new fans meeting with how mysterious he's been
This guy sure sounds dangerous, I hope he's a big part of the Metroid series!
I just remember watching the Prime Hunters opening/trailer that showed off all the bounty hunters and Sylux was the only one my brain latched onto.
Calling it right now, there is a zero percent chance of Sylux being the big bad, even for one game, or even dying a villain.
I don’t know how someone could think Metroid prime 4 looks “empty” when none of the prime games have ever been run and guns. You’re essentially a space detective in those games.
Not sure if that person has ever played prime
Yeah that comment reads like the person just hasn't played any of the games. I mean, that was the least empty environment I've seen from these games hahaha.
Stil makes it empty tho? So u just proved hes point 🤷
@@SilentSpringzzz it was never meant to be over crowded with NPCs? His complaint would be valid if this wasn’t the case with the other prime games, but this trailer perfectly lines up with everything we’ve come to expect.
Plus, like another person commented, just based off the opening this is actually the most over populated a Metroid prime game has ever looked lol. So I don’t exactly know what that guy was looking for to begin with. Probably hasn’t ever touched a Metroid tho
@liquidjake7672 Exactly. It reads as someone watching an Animal Crossing trailer and expecting GTA6. It's... absurd.
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The Peach game was easy because it's made by the developers of Yoshi's Woolly World and Crafted World. They just mainly make simple platformers.
Yeah, but “simple” doesn’t have to mean “for babies and no one else.” Good-feel also worked on Kirby’s Epic Yarn, and while it’s very easy, it’s still enjoyable for all ages.
Their games make you feel good.
I hope zelda is easy so arlo cries
@@666slateran666honestly I just hope it's interesting, because the central copy mechanic strikes me as either really great or really boring depending on how it's done.
i can't wait to see the speedruns@@00yiggdrasill00
You know we’re in a good era when most of the spicy takes feel nitpicky and unreasonable.
Nah, that's just how Twitter is.
Just reading stuff on there rots the brain.
If you ignore how Nintendo has wildly overpriced games, especially the remakes that can double in cost from the original at times.
@@RJS2003 arlo said that he picked only eight spicy takes out of more than a thousand. those eight probably do not represent the entirety of arlo's followers on twitter.
@@noahthecrazy1632 You don't get to dictate whether something is 'overpriced', sweetie.
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First of all, name a single remake that is double the price of the original.
And no. They don’t have overpriced games especially if you aren’t talking about remakes.
Just because they announced MP4 for the switch, it does not mean they are not going to put it on the next system. Twilight Princess, Breath of the Wild, just to name a couple.
"Mother Life Half 3: This time the G mom means business" confirmed? 🤔
I'd be very surprised if the next switch wasn't backwards compatible though, I know they don't always do backwards compatibility, but if the next console is another switch it's basically a given, and at that point there'd be no reason to release it twice
@@DJ_Maysonicit’s called the Switch U and it backwards compatible but you need a GameCube controller adapter that takes 2USB ports to play switch games
@@DJ_MaysonicIt wouldn’t necessarily be released twice. Rather, it may have a “Switch 2 enhanced” version that you get when purchasing or just downloading it for the newer system. Perhaps they may do something similar to how PS5 handles PS4 backwards compatibility. In that case, they show that a game is made for the older system, so downloading it will just give you that version. But it may also have a version for the newer system that you can download instead, receiving all the enhancements you wouldn’t have on the older system. Both versions are included in the purchase at no greater price.
A game you’ve already purchased may also get an enhanced version on the new console down the line, which you can access because you’ve already purchased it. It’s a simple and effective way to handle backwards compatibility.
Now, I wouldn’t put it past Nintendo to charge for enhanced editions of Switch games. But provided that such enhancements required additional developer time, such enhancements are substantial, and the price is no greater than about $10, I would consider that reasonable.
@@DJ_Maysonic I'm betting it'll be like the DS and 3DS: You can play Switch games on the new console, but you can't play the new console games on the Switch.
The guy complaining about the Prime 4 trailer looking like a ‘bad tech demo’ is 100% a PlayStation fan that can’t fathom a trailer having actual gameplay
As a “PlayStation fan” (but also a diehard Metroid fan), I completely get that lol.
Calling it a vertical slice is so unfair too. We just saw the opening minutes of the game. The real meat of any good game, or at least a Metroid game, doesn’t come until a ways in. I’m willing to bet there will be some very neat mechanical or structural features that define the gameplay of Beyond, and we won’t see them until more detailed trailers closer to release.
I realize we only saw a few minutes of Prime 4 at best, but in that trailer it genuinely looks better than Prime Remastered. And Prime Remastered looks fantastic. Visuals for what they showed look extremely polished.
That’s rich considering a lot of modern PlayStation games really are tech demos. Xbox too
I wouldn't say that even, I'd just say he's a dumbass plain and simple. Anybody with a brain would be able to tell that that wasn't even close to comparable to the "trailers" we get from pokemon. THOSE are some terrible trailers. Somebody once said "play pokemon trailers without the music and see if you feel anything" and that changed how I view them, if you take away the music its just embarassing to look at most of the time.
MP4 wasn't that, I couldn't even pay much attention to the music with all the action happening, that shit was RAD
I wholeheartedly disagree with the guy who says Brothership is going to bomb. The audience for this game isn't going to be fatigued at the amount of Mario RPGs, in part because they aren't these massive timesink commitments that other RPGs, like Dragon Quest and Persona, are. Also, at the end of the day, people will just see them as Mario games, and I doubt Mario fatigue will ever truly set in on the Switch, mainly because the Switch library is so diverse otherwise.
It also will help that Mario RPG fans have been starved for good games for like a decade at this point so we’ll eat anything at this point.
People can just buy games and not play them immediately, too.
I mean, I look at my still growing game collection and cry inside a little at the ones I still haven't played.
I don't think the Mario and Luigi games have ever been massive sellers...they are a niche title and that's fine.
Also none of the rpgs play the same. They all use action commands and thats about it gameplay wise.
We’re far from a Mario fatigue because we’re in a super creative era at least compared to the Wii -> Wii U era and that mainline Mario games just aren’t released as frequently now. The last original mainline was Odyssey; 3D world etc were only ports. I’m in fact more excited for Mario games because each genre is getting something new
“You don’t title your game based on a funny”
*Maniacally laughs in Untitled Goose Game*
Genital Jousting and Mount Your Friends would like to know your location.
Yes, those are real game names.
@@M00nlightOfficialGenital jousting is aptly named.
To be fair, he also quickly followed that up with the fact that Echoes of Wisdom "isn't a funny game", unlike Goose Game
@@Awsome2464 to be unfair, play untitled Goose Game. Imagine how that groundskeeper feels.
Okay, so it's more like "Don't title your game based on a funny UNLESS the game itself is a funny."
My unbelievably spicy take is that people are sleeping on MIO: Memories in Orbit. From what was shown, it looks genuinely fascinating and I can’t wait to see more about it.
It's like if ori, hollow knight, and midna's hair all had a few too many cocktails one night and 9 months later that game popped out... And I adore all 3 of those things so its a day one buy for me.
I agree, I’m looking forward to this one!
yeah if I ever want another pretty 2d metroidvania esque game and silksong still isnt out yet i'll probably go for it
I like what we saw of it, it's just us Xenoblade fans saw the name, utterly forgot the trailer and started screaming like N.
@@UltimaKeyMaster mio is best girl
We didn't know who Rundas, Gandrayda, Ghor, Admiral Dane, or anyone from prime 3 was before we played the game. That's what that's like, you play a game and then are introduced to characters as the game progresses.
To give the benefit of the doubt, I don't think that's what they were worried about. I think they heard Soun was in other games they hadn't played and assumed because of that that Prime 4 would assume you had played those games and thus already knew and cared about him, thus making it so that Prime 4 wouldn't have to do that itself.
@@thomasfleming8131 Those feelings should be assuaged by how Dread did its introduction. Despite being a highly (HIGHLY) anticipated installment for fans of the franchise, it explained everything very clearly for newcomers, and the bits during the confrontation with Raven Beak at the end where he revealed his part in Samus's origins could be visually understood without needing to have read the manga. Retro Studios ain't stupid, they know that only a fraction of the audience for this game has played Hunters; they're gonna do everything they can to make sure Sylux stands on his own (and, if we're being honest, Sylux really didn't get any explanation at all in Hunters itself either).
We aren’t excited to get MORE Sylux, we‘re excited to get ANY Sylux! We love his aesthetics, and we are excited to learn more sbout him because he literally has never had any character development whatsoever outside of instruction booklet texts and such. So this game, if anything, will be more of an introduction to him than a reappearance.
Arlo and Maximilian Dood are my two favorite, most-watched RUclipsr/Streamers by FAR, so seeing that clip pop up was wild
Kinda felt that when Arlo gave Zefrank a shout out during the sponsorship segment. I LOVE that guy.
I don't remember not knowing a character or villain beforehand ever getting in the way of my enjoyment of a game. I mean, most of the time I only know about them once I get through the story 😂
Agreed. A well-written narrative will do a good job of catching everyone up to speed on relevant characters/plotlines, especially if there's a large gap between entries
Prime 4 is in the BotW position where it was announced for the current system ages ago and is obligated to launch on it, even if it doesn’t make as much financial sense as just being a launch title for the new system.
Although TBF anyone who bought a switch was gonna buy BOTW. But that's mainly due to very few people owning Wii Us.
@@CALAMITY0FHYRULE As one who owned a Wii U and still to this day will always say it was a better system then the Switch ever would be, I did NOT buy BOTW on Switch till like 4 years later, only cause I was giving the trash game a second try to see if I was to harsh on it, and I figured there would be some bonus for TOTK if your Switch had BOTW save data, which didn't happen.
@@ItApproaches yikes, bummer you didn't like BOTW. Oh well. I love the Wii U, it had some great games, but imo the switches library is just better. Also there is technically a benefit to having BOTW and playing it, mainly that you're horses are saved and ported over.
@@CALAMITY0FHYRULE I forgot about the horses carrying over, but with the amiibo' I only used Epona anyway, so either way you just got her for free in both. I am not dissing the Switch's game library, they're fine. Though games ran better on Wii U then Switch lol. I'm saying the HARDWARE, the SYSTEM that was the Wii U is better then the Switch.
@@ItApproaches in what metric? I don't mean to argue but isn't the switch more powerful, plus being portable
I don't get how anyone look at the gameplay in the new Zelda game and think it will be dumbed down?
They showed them defeated an enemy by placing a rock, having the enemy attack the rock and get stunned then throwing the rock at the enemy, then repeating the whole process one more time just to defeat the enemy fully. That right there is already way more complicated and involved than walking up to and enemy and spamming the sword button until the enemy dies. I saw that in the trailer and was like oh wow it looks like it's a puzzle just to figure out how to even defeat basic enemies, I can already imagine the complicated stuff that you are expected to do to defeat a boss in this game.
Honestly I would say what Link has done is generally been dumbed down. Figure out what the boss is weak to, whack at it a few times with a sword, rinse and repeat.
Also baiting flying enemies into one spot with meat to then attack with a deku baba. That’s much more interesting than jumping with Roc’s Feather and slashing. Imagine the cool stuff we can do with other echoes, like using the Redead to freeze enemies while another echo takes care of them. There are going to be some neat combos.
It’s all perfectly in line with their philosophy of multiplicative gameplay that was the basis for BotW and, to a much greater extent, TotK. Instead of giving the player a bunch of tools with limited uses, give them a few tools with a whole ton of different uses that can result in emergent behaviors when combined. It’s my favorite type of game design.
It's dumbed down in the sense that, while the process is more complicated, you generally aren't going to be putting yourself in danger.
But also, dumbed down isn't gonna be the right word. This game is obviously gonna lean more into the puzzle aspect of Zelda than the combat, similar to Oracle of Ages
It just feels annoying that you're going to have to use gimmicks to take down basic enemies instead of just being able to smack them with a sword. Instead now you summon monsters to smack them with a sword. When they have the same end product of smacking an enemy with a sword why does it matter? It feels dumbed down because there's literally less options for you to deal with enemies. Zelda has used a sword before, so why is she unable to do it now? It just feels like they made the game play a lot more tedious for the sake of a one-off gimmick.
@zacziggarot Just remember, like any other game you are gonna progress and get stronger. You will have more options available that will make combat easier, faster, or more interesting.
A moblin might be slow and basic, but a darknut or lynel would certainly be more threatening
Chances are Sylux might not even be the main villain, we know he's there but not to what capacity. They could pull a Raven Beak and wait to show off the big bad.
Dread literally shows you getting manhandled by Raven Beak in the opening. Given that Sylux has been there since all the way back to Prime Hunters, I'd be more surprised if he wasn't the main antagonist.
@@ironicdivinemandatestan4262 Sorry, I meant in trailers and 2021 buildup to release, I'm definitely aware he's there at the start of the game.
But I also think Sylux would do a great job as the main antagonist if that's what happens.
I like the Ridley/Mother Brain balance, where there's a more rivalish villain and a big monster villain. Definitely crossing my fingers for that! I'd love to see something colossal for Metroid. I wanna have to deal with a visible-from-space kind of monster
Imagine Samus and Sylux keep running into each other and facing off as rivals, but teaming up when they’re both threatened by a new, greater enemy. It could be interesting to learn of the reason for Sylux’s hatred of the Galactic Federation and to see some character development after needing to work *with* Samus.
Or he could just be a really cool nasty villain who’s fun to hate. Either works.
10:05 I beg to differ. All Mario RPGs on the switch feel so different from each other that people will still want to play more, despite being released in a year. It's different compared to the New Super Mario bros series, where they felt too similar in such a small window.
Also all Mario RPGs on switch except Mario&Luigi are remasters so lots of people that playes the original probably skipped these.
I don't care about anything Arlo, has to say. Honestly, he's become too negative and toxic, and he can go g****** f*** himself.
20:00 “And Samus is coming for you too buddy” is one of the most fear inducing phrases in gaming.
Fun Fact: The guy who wrote that first spicy take about Sylux is one of the brothers behind SFBGames who made Snipperclips, Detective Grimoire, and most recently, Crow Country, among other great games.
Yeah, funny that Arlo didn't seem to catch that he managed to feature someone who actually developed a game for Nintendo
I will personally hunt down any bad takes on Brothership in this video. If there are any.
Edit: This was not an INVITATION for bad takes. Did you not read the comment. Your days are numbered.
My fucking Hero 👏👏👏👏👏
Mario and luigi my beloved. God I wish Italian people were real
Same but for Prime 4.
Lights torch and sharpens pitchfork
Honestly it looks kinda off, like those cgi anime that don't quite have the funds to be done well.
It doesn't bother me though as I'm not a fan of the genre. If I was I think the artstyle would be the only minor issue I'd have with it.
I'm happy for the people that are interested though :)
I'm actually gonna disagree on the Marvel vs Capcom collection being presented badly. The fact that they opened it up with the phrase "gonna take you for a ride" was honestly the hypest way they could have revealed it
Only other thing that could've topped that is if it opened up with the "CAPCOM PRESENTS" sound bite thats associated with MvC, but thats typically reserved for new games, not re-releases
However, as an FGC head, MvC was always gonna hype me up the most. Mahvel warms the soul for us
I agree, the way it was presented was perfectly balanced.
I'm not even any good at fighting games, and only bought MvC2 for my 360 for parties, like buying Smash, but even I have the menu theme stuck in my mind. I can only imagine how true fans felt getting ALL of those in-jokes and ALL those extra games.
@bradensmith8682
The extra games are probably the biggest thing, yeah. A lot of them never got proper console ports, and or were not availabe for very long (Marvel vs Capcom 1 and Marvel Super Heroes were put on PS3 and 360 in late 2012, but were delisted in early 2014 for example)
It's exciting, to say the least
I think the Peach game wasn't easy because it was girly, but because it was just a better vibe for her. Super Princess Peach was easy as hell as well, but I loved it because it was a nice calm adventure in the Mario universe. She's the best character for a less chaotic Mario adventure, like how Luigi is the perfect character for the Luigi's Mansion
I mean, it was the light-hearted title with low stakes due to a oneshot villain.
Anyone complaining about it being easy is probably a bit over-privileged with their game collection compared to the birthday kids excited for more Mario franchise.
@@tomforge614 This is really the best way putting it. We aren't the target audience.
Valid.
@@M00nlightOfficial the average switch owner is 25, we ARE the Target demographic 😂 little girls don't have disposable income, good luck marketing to them. I'm just annoyed because there's really no reason for the gimmicks, I'd gladly drop 60 or even 70 bucks for a Zelda game where you play as Zelda, now it doesn't even look like we're getting that, but instead we're getting a gimmicky side game😕
@@zacziggarot "little girls don't have disposable income, good luck marketing to them" you know that parents buy games for their kids, right? did you forget that little extra factor?
also, what makes echoes of wisdom a "gimmicky side game" when tears of the kingdom exists?
“You don’t title your game based on a funny”
Ratchet and Clank subtitles: "Allow us to introduce ourselves."
I mean, I can't deny that Princess Peach Showtime is on the easier side. But honestly I don't care. Sometimes I want to play a game that doesn't frustrate me.
Plus you have to consider the other side too. Sometimes if a game is too difficult, some people won't like it. The truth of the matter is you can't please everyone.
But do I think Princess Peach Showtime is easy because Peach is a girl? Nope! As someone else already said, it was made by Good Feel. Good Feel's games are not really difficult unless you aim to get 100%. Not just that, but the games all have some things in common...
No life counter
Unique art styles
Transformations
Customization
To name a few. I honestly didn't think the game was going to be hard going into Princess Peach Showtime. What I saw was something that would make me happy and to me, that's what matters.
But to anyone who doesn't like it, I get it. We all have our reasons for liking or disliking anything! Let's agree to disagree I say!
I believe that you can have a middle ground in terms of difficulty. It's not like the alternative to "a walk in the park" would be literal hell. Instead of being 1 on the difficulty scale, it could be a 2, if you know what I mean. It can be tough but not frustrating. Not saying that would make it better, I'm just saying that it doesn't need to be either extreme like you think.
Also, "No life counter, Unique art styles, Transformations, and Customization" alone and in regards to difficulty aren't mutually exclusive or inclusive. You can have a tough game and have any number of those. I do agree on enjoying a game despite it being very easy, I've been in that position as well. But it's always nice when they throw a bone to more experienced players. They don't need to make it specifically for me, but even a simple hard mode (which is still probably not going to be that hard) is nice. There is a point where something is so easy that it feels lacking. Kirby is fun despite most of it being pretty easy (I know about the other modes, that's besides the point), but imagine if they just made you invincible. It could still be fun, I mean, I don't usually die anyways. But it would make it worse. I'm rambling, that's all.
I wouldn't really describe peach showtime as having a "unique art style"
that take on metroid prime 4 looking bad is actually insane... how does someone see something that is blatantly the very start of a game and go "this looks barren"
in their defense, the people who made the trailer made the choice to only use footage from the very start of the game. If the beginning of the game looks barren (because it's from the beginning of the game) and the trailer of the game only uses footage from the beginning of the game, would it not be reasonable to state that the footage in the trailer looked barren..? Sure the later parts of the game are bound to be more interesting, but it's on them for choosing not to show off those more interesting parts
@@Sponsie1000imo it does close on literal Avatar jungle and giant tree, so their point is sorta moot. Cuz it shows a large game area that seems to be lush and vegetative
I've seen enough idiots online saying blatantly good looking games look like "PS2 graphics" that it doesn't surprise me. They're either literally trolling, or just woefully stupid.
These are the same kind of morons who complain if a character's reflection in a puddle doesn't look like a mirror.
@@Sponsie1000 well it should be pretty obvious that it is the very start of a metroid prime game, each one of them starts that way and nobody complains about it... i feel like some people just want to have an unpopular opinion and reach with any possible evidence
My 2 main things:
The new Zelda game looks like it'll be really fun to puzzle solve, but boss fights/conbat could really get boring when you just summon objects and monsters to fight for you
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I expect boss battles to play out more like puzzles, in which you have to figure out the boss’s weakness and carefully exploit it with the resources you have rather than just sicking a bunch of monsters on it until it’s dead.
@@EMLtheViewer fair. So just general combat scenarios would be kinda lame, like "ok gotta wait for my guy to kill the opponent". Or throwing rocks, but that's less effective then actually enemies on your side
I like your pfp. Still haven't gotten him.
@@smashcentra1399 thanks! I'm still trying to get him in Yo-Kai Watch 1, but when I was a middle schooler I actually got him in Yo-Kai Watch 2. Still got him also, his name is Tuxenoko
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Lucky, never give up! I'm trying in ykw3.
The first one strikes me as such a paradoxical mindset. Not interested in anything without prior knowledge of it? How do you ever gain prior knowledge then? Such an odd complaint.
Because it’s MAHVEL BAYBEEE
I can sort of understand where they were coming from, since Sylux isn't a new character. The thing with Sylux, though, is that nobody knows anything about him. You aren't going to be missing out on a whole lot if you didn't play Hunters/Federation Force because the only things revealed about him in those games are very surface level.
I think the commenter was trying to say that it felt like Sylux was being shown off as if just his presence was worth getting invested in the game before ever playing it, even though there didn't seem to be any reason for it.
I disagree with the Mario rpg take simply because the three games don't play the same. Even in battle, TTYD and the Mario and Luigi series are very different. SMRPG is arguably the one that overlaps TTYD remake the most, and as you said, they're doing fine
That's the first thing I thought of. Sure, they all fall under the RPG genre, but the playstyles of the different various battle systems differ quite a lot
They don't play the same, but they're still Mario games in the same genre.
People already feel Nintendo has oversaturated the end of the Switch with Mario/Mario-adjacent titles, so pushing out 3 x Mario RPGs in 12 months is really risky.
I have a feeling Mario & Luigi will sell the worst among the 3, despite it being the only new game.
@@corey2232 I know you'll be wrong
@@corey2232 a few things to critique
"People already feel that nintendo's oversaturated the switch with Mario-" full stop. That's like, *Nintendo incarnate*. Mario IS Nintendo. It's not a surprise that the mascot is gonna have a lot of games
"Pushing out 3 RPGs in 12 months is gonna be risky" the difference, again, is the distinct PlayStyles. Would you compare the original final fantasy 7 to any of the Mario RPGs? Unless you're super Mario rpg, they differ enough to the point where playing one doesn't feel like playing another
"I have a feeling that Mario and Luigi will sell the worst" honestly, I can see by the end of the switches lifespan, that super Mario rpg would end up in the dust because both TTYD remake, and the revival of the M&L series are bigger in terms of "statements", SMRPG just gives us the idea that Nintendo and square are on good terms now
@@burbusburbus8782 It could be worse. It could be the Wii U era where it was mostly new Mario games that were alright but copied the 3DS formula with no new Zelda game aside from Hyrule Warriors and BotW (which the latter was going to help launch the Switch anyway), no mainline Animal Crossing, etc. The only three franchises that got anything meaningful were Pikmin, F-Zero, and Xenoblade.
12:51 Honestly, Nintendo should Remake Prime 2 & 3 (and in a perfect world, Remake Hunters and Federation Force) before the release of Prime 4 so that new and old fans get "caught up" on the Prime Series before it's release
I am solidly convinced (and have been since the release of prime remastered) that the biggest reason that prime remastered was even made in the first place was so the team could get into the groove of making a metroid prime game on the switch. "Letting people get caught up with prime" was never the objective at all, prime remastered was basically a training project for the team that they were able to release and make money off of. Dont get me wrong, I love the remaster and I seriously hope that prime 2 and 3 get the same treatment, but honestly, with how bad Nintendo is at preserving thier old games, i would not be shocked if we never get anything official for prime 2 and 3.
Agreed. Prime 2 and 3 would be amazing. My belief is that we're likely to see a shadow drop for one or both in the September direct
@@evanchauvey5417My guess is that we'll get a bundle of Prime 2 & 3 that will not have any fancy graphics or things like that, just improved controls
@@evanchauvey5417 idk. The good news is that the prime engine seems to just take source code and redo lighting and stuff. Granted, textures need remodeling and assets too, but the games shouldn't take THAT much work
@@CALAMITY0FHYRULE Depends on how much time they've spent on it. If I remember correctly there was a report that said that Prime Remastered was done like a year or so before it's release just sitting there. So if they worked on Prime 2 and 3 before starting work on 4 time will tell. It's also possible they got done with prime remastered then jumped to prime 4
I think that the scroll wheel of “echos” in the new Zelda game looks really slow and tedious!
I kind of agree. ToTK had this problem as well. It opening a big multi-layered menu would probably look worse but function better.
Shoulda done the Mario maker approach tbh
It would probably be awesome on the Wii U & using the Game Pad.
I think the trade off is you won't actually have that big of collection of Echos.
Maybe you can only hold like 10 or so at a time and have to juggle the ones you think you'll need.
@@TheWarbo I swear without 'most used' I just wouldn't use the bow for combat
15:30 I can all but guarantee that the only footage we saw in the trailer is from the prologue. Like how you do a lil tutorial section in the original Metroid Prime.
edit: oh, I'm so glad you were on the same track.
yeah but the tweet didnt say "the entire game is going to be barren because this trailer looked barren", the tweet said "This trailer looked barren".
If you say "Oh, it only looks barren because it's prologue-footage", you're not actually disagreeing with the tweet :]
@@Sponsie1000 the thing is, that actually _is_ disagreeing with the tweet. saying "the trailer looks barren" and nothing else implies that it's a bad thing. adding that "it only looks barren because it's prologue-footage" implies that it's not a bad thing.
@@jclkaytwo well it's a bad thing in the sense that I would have liked for the first trailer of this highly anticipated to really blow us away with something spectacular/epic,, and l felt that this trailer kinda just showed some very mundane stuff.
Of course the game's gonna be great, but when l was watching the direct live l honestly couldnt tell whether it was Prime4 or Prime2Remastered until they popped the logo,, in that sense I was hoping for something with a little more oopmh
@@Sponsie1000 that's not what I mean. if you can acknowledge that the trailer probably only looks barren because it's the tutorial area, that means you're able to criticize the trailer while also simultaneously knowing that it's not fair to judge the whole game based on that. the people who are criticizing the trailer and nothing else are acting like the trailer we saw will represent the whole game.
@@jclkaytwo l get that right, but it's the marketing team's job to not even get into this situation in the first place. This trailer may pretty easily come across as a bit lackluster because the marketing team chose to only use bits from the prologue, knowing fully well that it's less exciting and not fully representative of the entire game. Of course veterans know that this trailer was a bit barren/mundane because it's only the prologue, but you cant blame people who never played the games for not knowing that Slash not being impressed by the prologue bits.
If we agree that the prologue bits are less cool than the actual game bits, then why are we surprised when people say the trailer wasnt as cool as it could/should have been when they chose to only show us prologue bits? Thats on them, not on us. Why is it our problem when they show us a trailer (after 7 years of development) that isnt representative of the game? That just sounds like a poor trailer to me :]
I don't think M&L Brothership will bomb, I have never played a single Mario RPG period (unless you consider the Mario-Rabbids games as part of that), but I am beyond hyped for Brothership. I don't think I'm alone on this.
question: did u buy paper mario or RPG 😂
I'm curious, what's your reason for not having played any other mario RPG but being hyped for this one? Did you not own previous consoles or does some aspect of this game in particular really speak to you?
(ps i hope the question doesnt sound condescending/gate-keepy,, l genuinely wanna know as someone who's played pretty much all of these games :] )
@@MrDefjam100 nope, never bought them.
@@Sponsie1000 I have a really tough time getting into JRPGs (or pokemon-esk ability-based ones). Can't think of a reason why, but I did get more into them when I broke my wrist and could only play games with 1 hand for a few weeks 3 summers ago.
I have owned a Wii, DS lite, Wii U, and the Switch. I would have been too young to understand what was going on when I might have played the original games, making it harder to feel nostalgic for them or their series'.
Brothership's art-style is fantastic, and I'm at the age now where narrative is actually important to me. The fights in M&L games having active play in them (jumping over attacks) might be simple, but is far more interesting to me then just percentages and hoping you don't get hit. I know that was a staple of M&L games since the beginning, but I only really felt drawn to it now.
@@micahvisser3772 thats cool! Yeah the gameplay seems pretty in-line with how the older installments played as well, but the more interactive turnbased battles is an aspect that makes the M&L series stand out from other rpg :]
I wonder how it'd be like to first play this upcoming game and then go back to the older ones if you havent played any before,, since this one will be way more 3d and model-based instead of the previous games with their topdown and sprite-based artstyles. I wonder if that would detract from the earlier games or not
"You don't title your game based on a funny"
Tell that to Hello Kitty Island Adventure 😂
On the "RPG fatigue" thing.
I feel like whoever suggests that's even *possible* with this particular lineup isn't factoring in just how differently each of these games play.
I mean, that was kind of with the "Fantasian Neo Dimension" title with their curved attack mechanic. Clever take on combat, but don't know if it will be that big of a selling point.
I've seen plenty of RPG fans who will play functionally the same game with different skins 100x over as long as the character art is appealing.
I don't think RPG fatigue is a thing past the 100+ hour gametime meaning they can't get to the next game sooner.
Pokemon released 5 (technically 3 because dual releases are the same game) games within the span of a year, all of which were controversial to some degree, charged full price, and sold over 10 million copies of each.
Its very much a silly argument.
@@tomforge614RPG fan here, yes i will literally play the same thing in different coats of paint if it looks good & plays well 🗣️🗣️🗣️
persona my beloved
Besides. It doesn’t take that long to complete them. A week or two at the most
@@cuteykitsune To be fair, I was being hyperbolic about modern gametimes. I recognize that most proper RPGs only take 12-40 hours, depending on the story, unless you're trying to do "EVERYTHING".
Things we know about Sylux:
1. He uses an electricity gun
2. He seems to dislike Samus & the Federation
3. He stole a metroid larva
That's really it. You're not missing much if you haven't played the previous games. Given how long it has been since the last Prime game, they're definitely not going to expect players to know everything going in either.
My spicy take regarding the direct and info surrounding it is that, strange as it sounds on the surface, Nintendo is kind of justified in not immediately revealing the studio behind Brothership and waiting for us to see the studio's logo on the boxart and staff in the credits. I've said elsewhere that the internet as a whole has gotten increasingly vitriolic as time has gone on, but Nintendo fans in particular seem to be especially predisposed to harassment, death threats, and pulling potentially career and reputation ruining accusations directly out of their butts as soon as they see something they don't like.
Remember how mad they got when they found out Retro was making DKCR instead of more Metroid games at the end of the wii era, or how Junichi Masuda had to delete all of his social media accounts due to pokemon fans going after the one member of game freak who's name they know when they found out about the dex cut in sword and shield, or just six months ago when Nintendo had to shut down a live event and splatoon tournament over 39 bomb threats from one dude who was salty about his poor win/loss record.
Internet is ALWAYS like that. Especially on Twitter that is REALLY TOXIC. Look at Marvel fans and Star Wars fans as examples of those issues. Like the recent Acolyte show.
@justinyoon2840 Oh trust me as a star wars fan, I get that. Star Wars fans on social media are a different breed I tell ya.
I said this previously, but Zelda worries me specifically because it brings back the massive horizontal item bars that plagued TotK. There are some other fears about the game being more sandboxy, but with the 4 item limit that's somewhat assuaged my fears.
Regarding MP4 being a next Gen exclusive, Nintendo wouldn’t do that because they already promised it for Switch so they feel responsible to release it. It’s why Breath of the Wild was on Wii U as well as Switch, because they promised it for Wii U.
On the Legend of Link thing. Yes, they should totally throw away all of the brand recognition built over nearly 40 years for a joke.
This but unironically
Legend of Link is just a joke. If Echoes of Wisdom was called anything else, it’d be a spinoff, like Showtime. But it’s not. It’s a mainline Zelda game, as it should be.
All Triforce bearers should eventually get their own games. It's weird we're just getting a game about Zelda now. Hopefully She gets more games in the style of Ocarina of Time or BotW. Maybe one day we'll get a Ganon/Gannondorf game with destruction and control being the gameplay due to the Triforce of Power.
@@bradensmith8682 I don’t think I want that. Ganon is not a sympathetic villain, or a comedic, sometimes team-up like Bowser. I do think it’d be interesting to do something new with the triforces though. Like maybe in one iteration they get shifted, so Zelda has courage, Link has power, and Ganon has wisdom. The formula has worked for about 40 years, and im not sure it needs that big a shakeup, but could be interesting to have new gameplay like that.
@@keleynal4424Then do a Warriors game focused around Ganon cutting through the armies of Hyrule and obtaining the Triforce for himself.
ngl i wish EoW was a spin off, to me it looks really meh and the quality drop from totk (and even the LA remake) is colossal
@@goonballoon Comparing EoW with Totk is wild af.
That's like comparing Super Mario 3D World to Super Mario Odyssey. 2 vastly different styles of games, I don't think it's fair to compare these 2 at all.
Another thing in Mario and Luigi's favor is that its a new entry after a NINE YEAR HIATUS (not counting remakes) so a lot of people will be likely to be excited after having to wait this long for a new one.
Zelda doesn’t "look baby," but the visual style is something I've seen many non-Nintendo fans point to as to why they believe Nintendo is "for kids."
It's not as bad as it was during the GC era where most teens/young-adults avoided Nintendo like the plague for being "kiddie," but I have seen people point to Princess Peach Showtime, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Mario & Luigi, Kirby, etc. as targeting kids & not adult gamers.
Ironically the GCN is Nintendos least "kiddie" console.
@@user-zw3on4bx2t Id throw out a bet it's due to windwaker. That was a major title in a big IP, and it looked, to some people, childish. I could replay that game for the next six years, and I'm 18, but to many ig they thought it looked like it was for a younger audience
@@CALAMITY0FHYRULE That's exactly what they thought about TWW. Their loss. The bigger zeitgeist of the 2000s in the United States, which you are thankfully too young to remember, is that cartoons were for children and the only exceptions were foreign shows that (supposedly) only nerds and children liked. Nintendo had a lot of cartoony games, so it was seen as being for kids. Sony was such a juggernaut worldwide that the GC stood no chance anyway but the Xbox-- which had a lot of "realistic" games-- doing as well as it did put the nail in the coffin.
Tell them to read up on Kirby's Lore and they'll change their tune, also the trailer for Echoes starts with Link being dragged down into some unknown dimension. The art style may look cute but there's some heavy stuff going on in that game. And I'll gladly take the way Nintendo's games look as opposed to generic shooter 1002's graphic's anyday.
@@Cloud-dt6xbif kirby isnt for kids then nothing is for kids Lol. And I love kirby but lets be real
Prime Remastered makes more sense if Prime 2 Echoes Remastered and Prime 3 Corruption Remastered getting shadow dropped before Prime 4 Beyond.
i think princess peach showtime gets treated like that because peach isn't a character anyone takes seriously. zelda isn't the kind of character i envision boys not taking seriously.
Calling it the legend of Link would defeat the whole purpose of the franchise being named for Zelda.
It’s not called that because you’re trying to save Zelda, it’s called that because Zelda is the core character in the game’s universe, even though you don’t play as her.
She’s still the core character in the universe here, and she’s ALSO the playable character now.
The thing is, is that I think that Metroid Prime 4 will be a cross-gen title like with Botw
That Echoes of Wisdom take really, REALLY helped to clarify my own feelings on Echoes of Wisdom.
I had complained before about the sense that the game we'd get was a 2d spinoff with a gimmicky new mechanic where she fights with rocks and chairs instead of blades and spells, and even just getting a top-down spinoff game instead of a full 3d mainline title.
And I realized that it getting this "Princess Peach Showtime Babying" process is my actual worry. The change in core gameplay makes me think they're not taking it as seriously as a zelda game "ought" to be.
Though this might also be my own biases in favor of 3d games with the sense that the 2d outings are basically just inferior spinoff games in general.
My only hot take is that, of the three killer apps they showed, I'm more excited about Echoes of Wisdom than Brothership or Metroid Prime 4. This is because, while the other two look fantastic, they haven't shown much that we didn't already see from previous entries. Echoes of Wisdom has not only given us a brand new playable character, but one who has a whole new set of abilities that allow for a lot of creativity.
A new game from a series that's been dead for a long time is more exciting than a game from a series that has never been at risk of being discontinued.
@@lewstherintelamon244 It's more complicated than that though. Zelda as a series has been actively innovating and changing the game industry consistently for decades, whereas we;ve more or less known what we're going to get with Metroid Prime since the first game. Zelda is more exciting to me because it's way more mysterious.
I definitely feel like Echoes of Wisdom was designed around Zelda being the protagonist. Not (at least primarily) in the sense that she's female or that she's a princess, but in the sense that she is the aspect of Wisdom in this universe. We've actually seen gameplay styles contrasted based on different sides of the triforce before. The oracle game centered around saving and helping Din and Nayru, with Farore being an element that links the 3 games. They were adapted from the original godesses, and so in Seasons where you're saving Din there's a greater focus on combat to reflect the connection to power, and in Ages where you're saving Nayru there's a great focus on puzzle solving. Echoes seems like it was built around having a focus on wisdom much more deeply impact the core gameplay.
As someone who knows very little about Metroid lore, knowing that Sylux is actually an established character that the devs haven't done anything with yet is pretty exciting. Since he's the game's main villain (presumably), that means the writers will have the chance to flesh him out. Heck, I'd say that the fact that you don't need to play Hunters or Federation Force to know who he is is actually a good thing. Because if you didn't know he was a pre-existing character, he's still a new villain that adds an interesting spin on the Metroid formula. I mean a villain in a Metroid game that _isn't_ just some random alien monster? That's interesting! Not to mention ambitious!
I'd even say that it's commendable for the devs to pick a semi-obscure character instead of just creating a new one from scratch. One of the many things I love in fiction is when writers expand on forgotten or obscure pieces of lore. Not only is it some really nice fan service, but it shows that the creators are fans themselves and are willing to do something like that (which is another thing I like; when you can tell the new members of the dev team are huge fans themselves, and ready to dig up some obscure thing and expand upon it like a user on AO3. Instead of just throwing it in there solely for the sake of it).
Like, remember how in Super Mario Odyssey, they brought back Pauline of all characters, and revealed that she's the mayor of an entire city and is also the lead singer of a jazz band in her spare time? Or how in Pokémon ORAS, they actually explained how trading across different games works in-universe by implying that everyone's save files are parallel universes within an entire multiverse, and they demonstrate this by having some scientists create a wormhole using a device that's literally called a Link Cable? Weren't those some interesting concepts that you didn't expect, but were glad was brought up?
What I'm saying is that Sylux being the villain of Prime 4 isn't disappointing. It's the exact opposite.
10:50 To counteract this point, M&L are more about platforming and less about intricate RPG elements. Usually M&L is literally the stats and equipping overalls and a badge.
13:50 I never understood why people are so hung on graphics, be like, "Ah yes those rocks over there are too smudgy" or something like that. If you want real graphics just look out your window.
"If you want real graphics then look out your window" honestly goes so hard. I gotta use that sometime
@@papaG6423 Thanks.
Look, i appreciate Max's love for game preservation. I really do. But the only time these companies really try to center their own products around youtuber fan hype is when they're desperate. And Capcom had problems but they are not desperate. I admit companies sometimes can't truly gauge their own marketing well. But in Capcom's case...I mean Capcom's knocked it out of the park with everything since Devil May Cry V. Even the Mega Man Battle Network Collection, which no one with clout was pushing for. Also consider that Nintendo wasn't known for their MvC content, but they have the biggest install base right now, and this presentation makes sense. We're not even getting into how Disney could've been a factor in all this.
People may bring up the fact Capcom seemingly made a big thing out of this year's Summer Game Fest only to not show much of anything. A reminder that I'm not talking about temporary hype moments, but rather if the overall marketing they're doing is helping or hurting the end product. Going back to Battle Network, there was some speculation based on prior history, but there was never a major push from even the average youtuber for a collection. But they announced it and now it's on track to be the best selling Mega Man thing of all time. i think they know what they're doing overall.
Honestly the only desperate company here is Disney. Both Nintendo and Capcom are crushing it financially, with no sign of slowing (I mean MH wilds is gonna sell like crazy, as will a new Nintendo console) Disney is the only involved party that is taking hefty financial losses.
Honestly Capcom's been killing it since further back than DMC5. They've been killing it since Resident Evil 7 and Monster Hunter World.
About peach show time- it’s just a fact that a lot of girls, for whatever reason, prefer simpler and less stressful reflex based games. There’s nothing wrong with making a game that’s not a life sim that is “for girls.”
It's ironic that "female protagonist means it's for little girls" was brought up in the very Direct that revealed Metroid Prime 4.
I think Prime Remastered looks great, but I disagree with anyone who thinks Prime 4 doesn’t already look significantly better
TBH Metroid has never been a franchise I went to for next gen graphics, Super, Fusion, SR, and previous Primes have all been more about a style and the gameplay, rather than how many polygons or fps it has.
@@bradensmith8682Prime 1 was cutting edge when it came out and its remaster is the best looking game on the Switch. I was disappointed when MP2 went back to cartoon Samus.
@@bradensmith8682 metroid prime had some of the best graphics of any video game at the time it came out.
Max's scream for MvC was so hilarious yet so relatable lol
I do understand why some people might not like Sylux as Main Antagonist. I've heard plenty of fans who've played Hunters say they would have preffered Trace instead. Trace was more memorable because he was OP in Multiplayer.
My take on the Prime 4 thing: I think the series has always been a showcase of graphical fidelity, but not because the consoles the games have been on were powerhouses that did the dirty work for them. I've always appreciated how far these games push their hardware.
If Prime 4 was a Switch 2 exclusive, I feel like the logic of "It's so we can show off the graphics of the next console" is kinda silly? Because you don't need a powerhouse console to make a beautiful game- Prime 4 releasing on the Switch, the same way Prime Remastered did, might just be an easy to appreciate beauty that displays what developers can do if they know what they're doing.
I think that's really cool. Is that gonna be less main stream? Maybe! It's hard to say. But as a Metroid fan, all I care about is the quality and care put into it. Prime 4 immediately shows us the devs are still just as capable of working around limitations as they used to be.
The problem with the Metroid Prime 4 trailer isn't that I don't think it's gonna be good. The problem is that it communicates absolutely nothing.
I look at it and just go "Yup, that's Metroid Prime gameplay alright", and nothing else. There wasn't any kind of hook. It's making me wonder why they even bothered at all. Especially since Zelda or Mario & Luigi probably would have served just as well as the "one more thing" thing.
There wasn't even any real point in confirming it's existence, really, as they already did so right before Dread was announced. But hey, I'm still excited to see what else Prime 4 brings to the table.
It just occurred to me how fucking radical it would be to have the speed booster from dread in a prime game. Only if there's large open areas. You could do the cool shit like with the ball boost.....
It's Metroid Prime 4.
That's all I need to be hooked up like a Cenobite-victim.
@@sidnew2739 this. I have been waiting for this game since I played prime one with a friend in 2016. I'm so excited.
@@CALAMITY0FHYRULE
No more delays. No more teasing.
Time to play!
I always took “Legend of Zelda” as meaning “Zelda universe”, not “Saving Zelda”. So yeah I think the “Legend of Link” crowd is just joking. That or they’re not the sharpest tools in the shed.
My hot take is that I'm happy that Nintendo is reusing the new Link's Awakening engine. I thought the esthetic was very cute and was a better fit for a light-hearted story than we got in Link's Awakening. So I hope the story goes more in that direction while still being difficult and/or rewarding to outside the box thinking.
Important addendum to the whole "It should have been called "Legend of Link" - technically in the first game the "series title" was Hyrule Fantasy, and the subtitle was "The Legend of Zelda"
You can even see this original title on Eiji's shirt during the reveal. When the game was localized, they dropped the "Hyrule Fantasy" bit and just had "The Legend of Zelda as the title.
This is why the second game isnt called The Legend of Zelda: The Adventure of Link, but rather Zelda 2: AOL. In japan, it was a sequel to the Hyrule Fantasy: The Legend of Zelda, so it was simply called Zelda 2 to indicate it was continuation of that story.
Starting with Zelda ALTTP all reigons dropped the hyrule fantasy naming scheme because "The Legend of Zelda" was already what most regions knew it as.
i mean the mario rpg thing is not really as big of an issue as you might think, especially considering that mario rpg, ttyd, and mario and luigi are all very different rpgs stylistically and mechanically.
the question is do potential buyers know that? and do they have the money to justify three rpgs in the mario universe? even if that is the case? it's not about them feeling too similar but that they all three are in a similar niche and release too close together
The sheer amount of hostility/defensiveness surrounding Echoes of Wisdom is really strange to me. It looks amazing and I don’t get why that can’t just be that
I'm very glad that I don't need "graphics impressively better than the previous version" to enjoy games.
RE: All the Mario RPGs in one year - Nintendo also may be pushing out all the 1st gen Switch titles already in development ASAP so they can move resources to Switch 2 games.
This could be why it won’t be announced for the holidays
BABE WAKE UP THERES A NEW SPICY TAKE SALAD
I would agree with the Mario RPG fatigue if not for the existence of the NSO Vouchers.
i know its a little off topic, but i love that arlo keeps that little plastic ganondorf around. It always makes me think of his zelda action theatre video and that makes me smile
I don't think I could disagree more with the idea that the Prime Remaster should have waited until now to release. The last time MP was available at all was in the Metroid Prime Trilogy release on the Wii back in 2009. A huge part of Nintendo's audience has never played a 3D Metroid game, so it only makes sense to give them a real taste of it well in advance and then leave some time for their appetites to grow for more before the new game. That being said, 2 and 3 really SHOULD get some kind of re-release before 4 comes out, because again, they were last made available 15 years ago.
Arlo never thought I'd see Maximilian Dood fanboying over MVC In one of your videos.
Love both of yours and his content.
Wholesome and honest.
Thanks Arlo!
I still think it's weird that retro pokemon titles have not been brought over to switch online. I wonder if they are waiting for switch 2 to drop or if they will be in a stand alone package attached to pokemon home directly
You know that is weird. You think they would considering it's easy money.
At least give us Colosseum
@@BJGvideosdude if they just bundled colosseum and xd I'd happily fork over $60 and never ask for anything again, I just need those 2 games playable on modern hardware. I'm not spending $300 to play them and Id rather avoid emulation if possible (though the pirates life... It calls to me)
I love that we've gone from the WiiU era of complaining Nintendo isn't releasing enough games to the Switch era where we're now complaining there's too many games being released.
I agree with your take on Legend of Link. It's a funny joke, and the first thing I did when they showed the trailer was to go on Discord and tell my friends "They announced a Legend of Link!", but as an actual game title, it would cause far too much confusion
Do people actually believe Echoes of Wisdom should be called The Legend of Link? What a dumb idea
They’re just trying to be funny (they’re not funny)
Was about to skip the Squarespace ad, but then I thought "WAIT! But then I won't get to hear today's recomendatiooooooooooooooon!" (You always have the best ad reads, haha.)
the biggest difference between Zelda and peach game is that Zelda is being made by the MAIN zelda team. Peach game was made by a smaller more double A studio.
Exactly. I don’t see Aonuma purposefully making a Zelda game any less than any other Zelda game he’s produced just because it’s not Link’s game.
I think they did the right thing with Prime Remastered. It got people talking about Metroid Prime in an overwhelmingly positive way and got people excited for Prime 4
Honestly "The Legend of Zelda: The MIssing Link" is kind of a bad ass title.
“Link is Missing.” A throwback to the oft forgotten Luigi spin-off “Mario is Missing.”
MVC collection was huge to me, and plus Maxamillion went viral over it as well.
The first guy doesn't like a villain, because he isn't established, yet. He must hate all original stories then.😂
He didnt like the villain because he thought it *was* established. As in he was upset about the idea of having to research who this guy is to understand the story
The legend of Zelda is just the literal NAME of the series. It’s like how you wouldn’t change a game to get rid of Metroid, Mario or Kirby’s name from the title. I guess if the visuals and gameplay was completely different like Peach Showtime it might make sense but it’s literally the same world and art style from the last Zelda game
I'm still baffled that people genuinely think they showed switch 2 footage for metroid prime 4. Like metroid prime HD looked stupidly good, and metroid prime 4 seems pretty comparable with it looking more intense and action packed but a bit muddier texture wise. It's absolutely possible on switch, and if that WAS a switch 2 showcase then I'm already very underwhelmed with the successor console.
the game looks really good or just awful depending on who you ask. i'm over with bothering about their opinions. the vast majority have no idea what they're talking about anyway.
Okay so, I very rarely find myself with enough comfortable, disposable income to buy a new game. I went from being able to afford one every month, to one every 6 months.
I've been itching to play a new Mario RPG, but I am absolutely only gonna pick one out of what we've gotten, and I'm picking Brothership.
I think they're absolutely gonna cannibalize SOME sales, but I couldn't say how many
On the topic of the three Mario RPGs: I don't actually think them releasing the games so close together is...TOO bad. at least for this situation.
Two, high quality remakes of games that people held dear, and one new title in a series that people thought was dead and berried.
It helps that, fundamentally, the three games have
-Different gameplay styles
-Different restyles
-Different stories
So, its not as bad as it COULD be.
Prime 4 is designed to be a crossgen game. It's called "BEYOND" and it will be used to showcase the power of the S2 compared to the switch. It's gonna be a double hit combo announcement: now people are happy to get a M4 game. Later this year or next year people will explode when they drop the S2 trailer for the same game with the tag line "Available for switch... and available enhanced on switch 2"
Cross-gen is the only way to release Metroid Prime 4 now. Keep the promise of a Switch release for those who have been waiting for it since the 2017 reveal, and put it on the Switch 2 to bolster up the library for the new install base. Exactly how it was with BotW.
4:11 THAT'S MY VISTER RIGHT THERE WOW
HOLY SHIT I FOUND A FELLOW ARLO ON HERE
3:00 I was in the camp that thought "Oh, a Retro Collection. Wow. I'm sure EEEEVERYONE is hyped for this /s". But hearing the situation with it, even though I care, I think I totally get how those who are hyped must feel. Cuz I'm in a similar camp, when there's "ANOTHER damn Monster Hunter announcement" where most people just zone out, and I'm like "Nice! This saved the Direct for me!"
The take about, "It should be the Legend of Link" is like saying that it should have been called, "Mario Country Tropical Freeze" or "Donkey Kong Odyssey" because Mario was the protagonist of the Donkey Kong arcade game. I know modern Donkey Kong is the third generation so maybe it's more like someone saying that Super Mario Bros. should have had a Peach title to be more like the Legend of Zelda or a Bowser title to be more like Donkey Kong arcade.
Cold Take: Echoes of Wisdom needs a secondary weapon like the Bow of Light.
Not even the bow of light, a regular bow or hell even the fire/ice rods would be enough for me.
Idk, I’d be fine with the more creativity-oriented combat system if there was more than one item slot (seriously, that looks so much worse than TotK’s fuse arrow problem).
@@thevioletbee5879 As someone who has played Link's Awakening on Switch randomized without a sword, I can tell you it's fucking nightmarish after the 1 hour mark.
I'd be shocked if the rod is the only thing we use in the game
To be fair, between Peach's kung fu fighting and Zelda suddenly being able to throw boulders casually, next Smash Bros is going to look awfully curious.
Objectively the direct was really good, but aside from the MVC Collection and Zelda finally being playable I didn't get much out of the direct personally. I'm still hoping for a Xenoblade Chronicles X coming to Switch or Switch 2 and a port of Muramasa the Demon Blade.
Yeah. I was personally hoping for more updates on previously announced titles like Deca-Police, Shantae Risky's Revolution, and On Your Tail myself.
Also found it odd that Nintendo seems to be sleeping on the One Piece Odyssey port in July and whenever the Gex trilogy is coming out.
Beyond Good & Evil remaster being a shadow drop completely caught me off guard.
@@tomforge614for decapolice, it was pushed to 2025 as they're putting a lot of work on their other games, especially inazuma eleven, but initial announcements will be done exclusively on their channel from now on
I am slowly losing faith that the story of XCX will ever be completed, but it's not gone! Switch 2 would probably be a better platform for a port anyway.
Arlo you should go back and number all these Spicy take salads and put them in a playlist. Love this series a lot
Now, this is just a Game Theory. But I feel like they’re wrapping up their ongoing projects to gear up for their next console. If they tie-up loose ends, they’re more free to work on next console games.
Ah, yes, "Wait, go back! AAAAAAA!" from Maximillian Dood. Man was so broken by the reveal that he spent the rest of the Direct on it. Really. Even for Zelda Zelda, he was like "Ok, cool, but go back to MvC2."
The marvel collection wont even sell well, I understand its a beloved title, but there is literally no content for newcomers, even experienced players will get filtered to shit by the insane average level of the fanbase, and it will be compleatly unplayably dead within two weeks.
@@theremix54 There is new content. Rollback netcode, so online isn't going to be shit. Also, "newcomers" have literally 7 games to play, what is this "no content" crap IF THEY'RE NEWCOMERS?
@@UltimaKeyMasterAnd some of those games are even Co-op! There's something for everyone in the collection. Newcomers don't have to jump headfirst into the FGC if they don't want to.
@@theremix54 actually one of the absolute worst takes I've seen. Newsflash: not everything has to be about the newcomers, buddy. Even so, making these games *purchasable at all* is the content for newcomers. This collection is for the fans first and foremost which is refreshing because these days it feels like long time fans of something don't get rewarded for their investment in a series, and the newcomers get pandered to instead. As for its matchmaking being "dead", as long as there is good netcode, there will be at least a small community of people playing it. They will find each other, it does not matter.
To be fair, Marvel vs Capcom is his favorite game series and he was led to believe (along with most people in the FGC) for a very long time that Marvel vs Capcom was dead and would never get even re-releases of the old games, which have been unavailable outside of expensive physical copies on very old consoles.