Pokemon Theory: Grimer Is A Corrupted Ditto?!
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But in Soviet Russia you dont use toxic, toxic uses you.
I almost laughed, then I remembered that the joke has been around since 2001.
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Ricky Weldon butthurt much?
Or are you just a 10 year old trying to be cool?
***** You were the one who had to kill the joke so right back atchya .
And no that was just to show that just because somethings old doesn't mean its not
Funny. A joke is always new to someone
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"You were the one who had to kill the joke so right back atchya." Its over used not only on the internet but in real life. If you havent heard it as much as I can, you either have little to no human interaction, you really are young.
"And no that was just to show that just because somethings old doesn't mean its not
Funny." Whats funny is an opinion. I never said you had to agree with me in any way, I was just voicing an opinion and you obviously got butthurt. How is it obvious? You are tyring to white knight for a joke. Please, stop.
If Grimer was a corrupted Ditto, then it'd ALSO be a corrupted Mew. The Ditto/Mew connection is STRONGER than the Ditto/Grimer connection. BUT! IF that WAS the case, tada, Grimer is Mew.
What? Did you expect me to write out the Ditto/Mew theory? Too lazy
In fact, every pkmon is an evolved Mew
It's true now since ditto is genderless is because it can transform into any pokemon so by losing its transforming powers it has to have a gender
ekans = snake
arbok = cobra
muk =??
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+Jeff Semel there's no s
+Sparraw I meant muks
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Oh my gosh THE MOON DOESNT GIVE OFF X-RAYS!!!!!!!
So false pokedex entry!
It's a game/anime. It doesn't always make sense -.-
it's the pokemon world everything can happen there
There also aren't 700+ spices of animals that are part of a person's everyday lives witch can do things like shoot fire out of there mouths or propel water out of cannons in there back.
In the fictional universe of Pokemon, it can be likely for the moon to give off X-rays.
The moon can reflect X-rays from elsewhere, it only says 'from the moon' (which I guess does suggests its being emitted by the moon but whatever)
Besides this, X-rays can't penetrate the Earths atmosphere.... so yeah...
And yeah, I know that Pokemons fictional and all that, but hey, its fun thinking about this stuff
***** Ahhh.. you beat me to it. :p Yea, the moon can reflect x-rays.
I don't think, that the gender question is too much of a problem here.
Ditto is not genderless. It has the ability to aquire both genders. (Breeding, it can be male and female)
So when Ditto's were altered into grimor they just formed into one of the two genders (maybe on preference, their last formation or whatever gender was the nearest.. i dont know).
Why does Ditto occur in places where grimor does not? Simple: The changing ability. Ditto can survive and exist everywhere without great harm because it can adapt to all situations. But Grimor can not. It pollutes it's surrounding and i guess it has some preferences for it's surrounding. So when the former Ditto lost it's ability to change the form, it also lost it's adaptability.
Problems solved
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Your background makes me wanna go shiny hunting
Me too
Same
Lol, when I noticed that I thought that too. XD
I watched a theory lime this, and it was something based of a small story: a ditto crawled into a sewage pipe, and was then corrupted because of all the sludge and became grimmer. It then evolved into a muk.
i think you are on a close to my theory switch the arrow near the end. the exposion from the lab and its radiation mutaded some grimmers into dittos taking most of the pokemon dna with it leaving nearly nothing so it can be anything
BUT PROTO pls notice me senpai!!!
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ProtoMario thank you Proto for noticing me :D
I really hope that when giving possible complaints in his next video ProtoMario accidentally throws this one in... and doesn't even seem to notice it in his reactions to the other complaints.
Katrina Payne yessshhh that would my make my day :D
What's this"please notice me senpai" thing? I hear it quite a lot and i don't what it is about
Proto!! Why the heck would a ground or rock type need to know mud sport if electric type moves are already ineffective or weak against them? Wouldn't it be more useful for water and flying types who are weak agains electric attack? Same applies to other moves similar to that.
Rock types can be hit normal effective by Electric types. The only rock type Pokemon that can't be hit by Electric type are Rock/Ground (which there are only 9 of in the entire game). So the real question is: Why would Ground types need to know Mud Sport if Electric type moves are ineffective against them?
I have a theory, tornadus, thunderus, and landorus were createrd by hoopa while hoopa was created by Giratina, if you think about it Tornadus and Thunderus are tricksters, and all 3 of them look like genies while Hoopa is like the king of genies and is also a trickster, Giratina creator of alternate dimensions and time and space within those dimensions, punished for bad behavior to his dimension (like how Hoopa lost its powers) and Hoopa has a similar ability where he opens portals that can transfer things through time and space, also another note is the reveal glass is looking into an alternate world and pulling out the other forms of the kami trio, maybe it is actually a portal and just swaps out the kami trio's forms from this world with another, and the reveal glass works iin similar ways to Hoopa's powers and Giratina's powers of traveling through alternate universes
Hey Proto could please do a theory based on Pokemon ORAS?
They're really big and odd too.
1. Who is Aster (Zinnia's Whismur)? Why does it refer to Zinnia as 'mom'.
2. What happened to looker? Why was he suddenly washed up on an island and why did he have amnesia?
Btw ekans is snake spelled backwards and arbok Konra spelled backwards
koffing is a ball of poison gas and weezing is 3 three balls that are different sizes connected toghether with gluey sticks
Hmm, I think this is far fetched. I would theorize that Grimer came into existence as a byproduct of Ditto. Like, Ditto was likely created in the Pokemon Mansion, when Fuji and Team Rocket were attempting to clone and power up Mew but they repeatedly failed before creating Mewtwo. The experiments would naturally cause a lot of pollution and waste, from this waste, and the fact that they are trying to create life, combined with these frankly amazing 'moon x-rays' - Grimer inadvertently came into existence. This would have happened many years preceding Red and Blue, as Mr. Fuji was a relatively young man when doing these experiements; allowing Grimer to spread across the pokemon world by the events of the other games, we know migration happens fast, there is only 2 years between B&W and B&W 2.
TheRizlaSlim that's an even better theory in my opinion and let's be real some of the waste itself could have been radioactive and caused it instead of the moon as the pokèdex claims as many entries in the pokèdex the professors would have had no way of knowing how some were created, so they were right about radiation causing grimer to come into existence, but we're wrong about what the source of the radiation was.
what about krelp and its evolutions could they have been a horsey exposed to a grimer filled sea that adapted
Wow, that's actually pretty interesting.
Question: 1. Can you get stuck inside Grimer?
2. Can you drown inside Grimer?
3. What is it like inside Grimer?
Ditto decided to grow a genitalia when it mutated to a Grimer.
Espeon as a corrupted Mew:
1. Both psychic types
2. Both cat-like creatures
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This theory is a bit farfetched *badumtss*. I prefer the ditto from mew theory much better because it has much more evidence to it. But, you never know...
Nayal Chowdhury I know, I was just using that as an example of a theory like this that has much better evidence
3:30 you mean mew-tate, lol
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Hey proto tell me if I'm crazy but here's a theory, the new fossil pokemon Amaura is a prehistoric Baleef, I mean don't you see the resemblance and it changes into an ice rock type because 1 it's a fossil and 2 it's states in the dex that it's body has been frozen in ice and when both evolve they still look familiar with the body build out and it evolves differently because it's DNA has been altered by its being in ice and the restoration process
I can understand Ditto being a failed clone of Mew but Grimer being a mutant Ditto? Seems a bit farfetched. Grimer's Pokedex entry totally blows this theory out of the water. Only possible way for this theory to be plausible is if Ditto were to have transformed into a pile of sludge like how Ditto transformed into a book in the anime, got hit by x-rays from the moon which takes away it's transformative abilities, gave it genders and changes it's typing to poison turning it into Grimer.
FEV confirmed. The radiation from the accident could cause the theorized Ditto mutation to alter it's gender, and why Muk cannot live where Ditto live is due to their genes.
Great video as always Proto. I have I request for a theory on Kid Icarus Uprising. Why can't Pit fly?
Proto, this needs a ton more evidence to support it in order to actually make a good case
Koffing and wheezing were going to be named L.A and N.Y until they changed it
I think that gastly bumped into a ditto and came inside of him since ditto is a type of sludge and terribly merged together.
Nope! I don't think that Grimer is from Ditto.
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who else realize that the background are all shiny pokemons
Marione Reiven Barroca its kinda obvious
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Me and I agree with "The robin"
BUT PROTO! Sun and moon does not give off X-Rays!
But Proto! We all wanna SEE you! I know you have your perfectly legitimate reasons, but is there a way we can finally put a face to the voice?? Even an old-school picture will do!
I don't buy this one. I really think that Ditto is already a failed clone of Mew, so to make Grimer a corrupted Ditto on top of that goes a bit too far. I dunno.
Before you read i apologize for any mistakes. English is not my first language. But anyways.
What if, back at cinabar island in that mansion, when they tried to copy mew they would only get dittos but then they tried to add in something extra like a moon stone (for reasons) they succeded in doing that and created mewtwo but they couldnt compress the radiation and "not clean" radiation hit several dittos and eventually, after mewtwo destroyed that mansion, they became grimers.
That would explain why mewtwo looks so much more evolved and space looking because it could be just mew evolved useing moon stone.
And since moon stones are from moon they have that x-ray radiation on them. Basicly saying that "x-ray beams are from moon" could not mean that are directly sent from moon but rather from the moon stone. Plus i think proto did make a theory that evolution stones have radiation in them that make pokemon evolve when exposed to them.
I know there are few flaws here and there but still what do you guys think? Could mewtwo be created with help of moon stone and that grimer result of dittos exposed to that radiation, but not enough to transform into mewtwo but enough to mutate into grimer.
Hmm, I find it hard to believe since I am dead set on ditto being a failed attempt at cloning mew due to the same reasons you provide in this video and in your video about this theory itself, that the location of ditto is in the burned down mansion where there are files on mew and the whole cloning process, so again it seems very logical that ditto is a failed clone and pretty much is proto-mewtwo (heh, proto), they kept on trying to clone it but failed and just kept on releasing them in the basement till they could finally make Mewtwo. That is what I believe :).
Maybe the grimer's gender depends on what gender ditto transformed into last?
Like ditto can breed with either gender because it can transform into the opposite. So maybe it stays that gender when it loses the ability to transform?
I think you are right but since grimer is corrupted it can't live in places that ditto can
But proto!!!! GRIMER HAS ARMS BUT DITTO DOES NOT!!!!
Virtual high five! (0o0)/
Since ditto has the ability to replace and recreate cells on commands, it never dies (of old at at least). Therefore it doesn't have to have to breed. But when ditto loses this ability it is forced to evolve/adapt to have genders in order to repopulate since now it will die of old age and the species will eventually die out.
I think koffing and weezing's japanese names were LA and NY, which corresponds to the pollution in New York and Los Angeles. Or something like that.
Gender solution: Depending on the chemical that hit the Ditto, the chemical turned it male or female! +1 Theorist points! XD
woah... a corrupted corrupted pokemon....
corruptception?!
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This theory is flawed. For one, how does ditto go from a normal type to a poison type? Second, while ditto and grimer share a similar color palette, what about their shiny forms? I say that this theory is a bunch of baloney.
Thx for correcting me on that *****
i say both sides are picking at straws those who are for this theory and those that arnt.
but hey it just a theory. A game theo.. (oh wait)
I've never noticed this but, you kinda sound like lighting McQueen on the audio 😂
Grimer is Ditto who is a failed Mewtwo who is a clone of Mew.
I think ditto might be grimer/Muk that got exposed to Mews DNA
pokemon theory: Mega Weezing (proof-in the diamond pearl and platinum pokedex entries it sais there has been a weezing seen with 3 heads
I think this goes with not only the Mew theory, but the Ditto's Secret Evoleloiton theory. So yeah, I think it's legit.
not true Ditto is a Failed Clone of Mew so there fore grimer Is A Corrupted Ditto no solid facts that grimer in any way is related to ditto
i thought that grimer is just like a sludgey koffing they both look happy and when they evolve they get bigger and look un happy. and the are all purple
POISON TYPE IS MY FAVOURITE TYPE
well grimer and muk weigh the same so when it evolves it just changes its face a little
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I would believe that Ditto is a corrupted Grimer, but not the other way around..
So, in theory grimer is an irradiated ditto?
I wanted to know if anyone else had heard this, but rumor has it that someone, a primary source from game freek, stated pretty definitively that Ditto is not a failed Mew/Mewtwo Clone. (which kinda a shame)
Are you sure this the right comment section? This video try's to figure out if grimer is a corrupted ditto.
ok thats not right because the pokedex says that they are created by the moon's x-rays but maybe the grimmer is a evolved ditto. think about it Darwin's evolution theory says that things could evolve by there surrounding area, so the moon had a effect on some dittos and they mutated able reproduce with genders and they also gained the power to evolve and the fact that some did not evolve means some are not effected by the radiation which means dittos could appear any where.
What if when the dittos got corrupted, they also gained genders?
Let's be honest, did anyone ever use a grimer or Muk on their pokemon teams?
Wait.. Does that mean Grimer is a doubley screwed up mew?
Grimer and Ditto are failed attempts at re-creating mew or cloning mew?
Uhh you skipped Trubbish when he has the answer to Grimer.
Pokémon Question: Can Pokémon only say their name, OR are they named after the only thing they can say?
Josh Lewis so we tell pokemon their names from birth even in the wild for every single pokemon and that is all they can say? Unlikely
Grimer is literally grime in sewers. it says this is the pokedex.
because ditto couldn't transform he then needed a gender.
The mutations are what gave ditto/grimer their genders
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But, if you said ditto was a corrupted mew, does that mean grimmer is just a really f*cked up mew?
in my opinion i think that grimm is a molten pile off koffin
Who noticed old Articuno Sprite?
I think that grimer is an attempt at creating Arceus clones. This is why grimer has a basis in Sun and Moon. The Aether Foundation was trying to recreate Arceus with type null, after all.
Proto is Keldeo's other form a mega in some way or form?
It's a good theory, but I don't believe in this theory. I assume that Grimer is just transformed from regular sludge, and that Muk is 2 or 3 Grimers put together (similar to Beldum/Metang into Metang/Metagross). As for it's gender...the best I've got is, within the first few days of it's life, it will develop a personality, and depending on that personality (whether it be more masculine or feminine) will determine it's gender (I know it's gender can be seen as it hatches from an egg...but hey, it's a theory, it's gonna have holes, and this is the best I can come up with on my own).
love how you brought up that Grimer and Ditto are found in the same location in R/Band Yellow and of course in fire red and leaf green at the abandoned pokemon mansion proto!I always felt since Mr. Or Dr.Fuji ended up discovered in South America, around the amazon jungle since there's a crapton of wildlife there irl like a couple of other couturiers located in crazy insanely awesome wild habitats =D (so that in my opinion seems believable enough )
Ugh and i still know certain pokemon fans out there that are pissed are trubbish and garboder's design XD.Also proto, you should do a theory on why Cinnabar island's volcano exploded, unless you've done it in the past ,well done bro. PEACE!
maybe ditto gained exposed to a toxin that gave a gene to be a gender and as it can breed with any pokémon maybe the gene was dormant in him but didnt physically show... but that be a looooonnnngggg stretch into the theory
geito looks like goomy but melted and biger
But PPPPPPRRRROOOOOTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Arceus probably actually created all Pokémon and they didn't come from items arceus probably created grimer
Koffing is made from the Wario Waft.
So Ditto is a courrupted fail Mew clone and Grimer is an Ditto that has corrupted/mutated even further?
There is something to this, I think, but I think that Koffing part is just blowing smoke.
If grimmer is a corrupted ditto and ditto is a corrupted mew than grimmer is a really corrupted mew???
Grimer is a corrupted Ditto which is a failed clone of Mewtwo and Koffing is a failed version of Gastly? Wow, Team Rocket seems to screw up a lot.
I assume if this theory if true, then the mutation gave Dittos gender when turning into Grimer I'm sure Dittos can also copy the gender of any Pokemon they copy anyways.
IMO, the other Pokedex entries disprove this. Notice how definite these entries are--"Grimer emerged from..." "Born from..." "It was..."--there is no "probably" or "It is rumored..." or "...likely formed from..." In the Pokemon universe, if a Pokemon's origin is unknown or debatable, it would be included in the Pokedex.
Sapphire: Grimer emerged from the sludge that settled on a polluted seabed. This Pokémon loves anything filthy. It constantly leaks a horribly germ- infested fluid from all over its body.
Emerald: Born from polluted sludge in the sea, Grimer's favorite food is anything filthy. They feed on wastewater pumped out from factories.
Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: It was born when sludge in a dirty stream was exposed to the moon's X-rays. It appears among filth.
Black and White: It was born when sludge in a dirty stream was exposed to the moon's X-rays. It appears among filth.
meh, I wouldn't be surprised if grimer was a ditto, but probably not.
Yep so I actually looked it up, the moon does reflect x-rays given from the sun off, however none of the x-rays make it through our atmosphere.
Eh... I'm not entirely convinced. As yeah, there are places that have Ditto but not Grimer... but are there places that have Grimer but not Ditto?
Also, keep in mind, we are dealing with Grimer, Ditto and Koffing on three seperate timelines. The Classic, Modern and Mega time lines. With the discovery of Celebi shifting from Classic to Modern via a universal reformat.
In the Classic Timeline it might be possible the explosion in Cinnabar's Lab might have gunked up the Ditto into a Grimer. With Muk being a more potent stronger amount of sludge. In the Modern Timeline, it may have very well been X-ray's bouncing off the moon that caused them to exist. As that is very similar to how Deoxys was created in the Modern Timeline. There is also a lot more weird radiation that isn't as understood in the Modern Timeline--as it is in the Mega Timeline.
The only dex entries that really add the moon x-rays into the mix are ones after the creation of Deoxys. (Actually, I cannot double check on Gen II and Gen I--but I don't recall those in their entries)
In the Mega Timeline, those weird radiation waves are better understood and followed. As they are an element involved with the existence of Mega Pokemon themselves. There is a chance that in the Mega Timeline, Grimer and Muk are an unfortunate side effect of creating the Mega Evolution process. Hence why they creation and origin are a bit more definite.
Though... this does lead to the possibility... if Deoxys is the Modern Timeline's closest attempt at making something akin to the Mega Evolution? I mean, the ghost girl in X/Y is pretty much an element that is from the Modern Timeline version of X/Y as the Mega Timeline X/Y is VERY Mega orientated. What other weird mirrors are there? I mean, the mirrors with the Classic Timeline are mostly for continuity issues to allow Celebi to have an entry point in the Modern/Mega Timelines (for without those events, it won't make it so Celebi doesn't exist--but it would reduce normality levels making it HARDER for Celebi to visit... as to quote Homestuck, Celebi is already here).
...So America is to blame for terrible Pokemon like Trubbish? Is it just me or is there a hidden message in Pokemon that Japan hates the west? After all, we don't always get all the games and such. Heck, not just Pokemon, other game series. Monster Hunter is on platforms like PC and PS4. It's just not in the West and neither are they normal Monster Hunter games, instead being terrible money-grubbing MMO business models, thus a good thing that these terrible games didn't come over here. Anyhow, as for the theory, Grimer has gender and Ditto doesn't. Also Grimer can't transform. Did Ditto just choose a gender or something? Nah, I think the little things like that disprove this theory.
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I don't believe in global warming just because of the fact that the temp hasn't increase since I was born (1998), but I do believe in pollution (more of a fact then belief really). So what I'm trying to say is that if people hate pollution, then why hasn't it gone down yet. I mean everyone knows about it so there's no need for grimer and coughing. And if pollution has gone down why haven't I heard about it like seriously is that what news reports like to show? Depressing stuff? I personally dont watch tv so I wouldn't know. And I'm pretty sure we all know that almost every drugs is bad for you even ones that cure, so why do people still defend them? Yes maybe a tiny bit of marjiun for example could calm you down but too much will slowly kill you? Why do people argue against facts? People need to start researching before saying to first thing that pops into their heads. I know this is off topic of the video but I felt that this needed to be said.
3:57 grimer is a semi-evalution of ditto
ditto quickly evoulved using a COMBANATION of transform and toxins
This created a gender, and a speciac of pokemon on its own... Ditto
Proto I've been watching your videos for a while and ive also looked into a lot of theories of my own and would like to discuss them with you. One of the theories I've looked into is that grimer/muk resemble water pollution, koffing/weezing resemble air pollution, and trubbish/garbodor resembles land pollution. And when they evolve its kinda like the pollution is growing and becoming a bigger problem
Ironically I really like Muk, so I'm not sure if it's really helping fight against pollution.
"Poison types are the least used" I have NEVER had a team in pokemon with at least 1 poison type, lol. It's probably my favorite type after water and bug.
This will explain the gender... Ditto transforms into the opposite sex of the pokemon, which explains when you drop off Ditto and another Pokemon at the DayCare Center you get an egg. You need a Male and Female for this so Ditto has to be the opposite sex. Anyway, going with the explosion from the mansion theory as ProtoMario stated, which ever gender they transformed in last became their gender when turned into Grimer. Hope that helped =)
I have a theory that deoxys is the source of Pokemon over mew (ignoring poke gods). Like come on, Deoxys the DNA Pokemon, creates radiation that Pokemon seem to be highly effected by. Not sure what to do with the theory though.. idk post it on reddit, I don't even use reddit...