I have homemade fabric covered wooden boxes with cushions I use in my studio space. It creates bass traps, works as storage and can be used as seating for others in the room. I don't like unitaskers. Find things that are multi-purposed.
Great timing to see this video! I just added 6 more panels (12 total) in my small room. Hung some clouds! Finally sounds amazing. Thanks for all your helpful videos.
Just waiting for my barefoots then I’ll be reshooting my room with REW. I built all the panels in my room. Took a bit and had to be creative but it sounds so much better for both recording and mixing. Love your channel.
Treatment is my next project for my home studio. ive been really hesitant about it since i dont know what im doing, but after seeing how u treated your space and how effective a couple panels can be, im just going to go for it and do my best. My space really needs it. Thanks for the tip like usual Joe. 😁
Thanks, Joe. This is the source of most of my hesitancy to lay down more acoustic and vocal tracks. When I did that earlier this year, the guitar came off tinny and thin, with a sound I interpreted as flutter echo.
I just built eight absorption panels, 3-1/2” x 24” x 48”. The insulating material is Rockwool. I have yet to use them, with two other big projects taking my time this month. But I’m optimistic they will make flutter echo and comb filtering a thing of the past. Exciting.
Thank you very much for this information, it is very useful. But I think that before building acoustic panels, you have to be in a house or a building where the electrical cables are insulated. Is it true ?
Great piece of advice, I tend to move things around in my home and haven't any room treated properly. I have to set every time I need to record but with this fundamental I got just what the recording needs. Thanks dude!
Very informative. Quick question, how and where do we get the absorption panels made from? There's so much junk on RUclips about panels made of foam, towels, rockwool etc etc. Tips on the absorption panels in the next video maybe?
Just make a frame with 2x4's in the measurements of a rockwool panel, and fill it with that rockwool or other kind of insulation, then finish it off with breathable textile like thin cotton or cheesecloth. That's it. I made 9 of these in my studio, each panel measuring around 30x20x3 inches.
Hello thank you for the video! one question. The comparison video shows how much the absorption placement impacts the sound quality. however i see that you have window and open way to another room (no door) at the back of the room does that impact the sound quality? I always thought since studios are very closed and sound proof, having "enclosed" area is important where you dont here outside sound and the outside doesnt here you. I guess not? let me know your take on this. thanks!
Try: Moving blankets on the walls and on the floor. Cheap solution. Flip the breaker switch on the refrigerator. Big difference. Dynamic mics so I don't pick up my neighbor flushing the toilet. Quiet computer equipment. I may try bass traps.
I get the impression that large diaphragm condenser mics give the best recording, but then often require de-essing. I'm thinking diaphragm mics still do ok and don't create that issue?
@@josephpetrino1741 it depends of you are mixing or tracking. And what instrument is being tracked? (Is it a bass? Is it acoustic?) Is also about the polar pattern of the mics. Figure 8 can reject most sound side on but obviously picks up opposite direction. Cardioid can reject whats behind.
Great video! This gives me a lot to think about when conceptualizing studio rooms in the future. I noticed you didn’t say anything about diffusion and I have heard some people say it is good to have both diffusion and absorption or is that more for when trying to create an isolation booth type of thing?
hey JOE... thanks for ALL your hard work in putting all these wealth of information out here... I need your sound advice tho on one thing; i have a motif 8 yamaha and i cant seem to be able to get the usb connection with my new macbook pro to work. please advice. i used to think it was a firmware issue until i saw one in this video.
I am in a formal dining room ( now studio) connected to our kitchen. No sound proof. I put my pig nose and mic in a large cardboard box. Covered with a comforter. Over that a larger cardboard box. Keeps the sound of the refrigerator out!
Would making a barricade around you using eight (3 inch) foam panels on stands be better than putting the panels further back near the walls and the to side? This setup is to make a voice over studio in the bedroom.
I've got a cloud, first side reflections, front corners, (back corners have cutouts that can't be treated ones a door and ones a closet), behind mix position, behind monitor/speakers as you can hear the bass coming from the front of the room most. And the left side wall. Right side wall has a huge window. I have to use a music stand to have my panel for my right first reflection in position. Rooms mostly even except for a peak around 140hz and another around 350 /400hz ish
Perfect timing, Joe. I've just moved house to a rented 2 bed apartment near a main road and my space to record in is my lounge, as it's furthest away from the road. It's an L-shape, so my desk is in the little bit of the L, the room noise comes from the rest of the lounge! So, I'm going to have to (tastefully) treat the room with panels that I can hang without ruining the aesthetics of the place. Hmmmm... 🤔
bro i have been hearing your song fighter(yeah i know i am late to the party😂), and i have to say, its one of the best songs i have ever heard, you are seriously under rated, superb work bro keep it up, hope that you rise to new heights.
I always search for specific things related to music production and without fail end up hitting on Joe Gilder's videos without even realising, next time just gonna go straight to the channel 😆😆😑
Beyond under 3m i tend to give up, do a bare minimum then mix half on headphones 😆 But there is some reflection points with foam, closed curtain, a sofa and even a towel hung on a door hanger and bookcase directly behind (as diffuser?!). At least i am actually centred on the short wall and measured my speakers though. I have a long cupboard with no door too, thats like the kind of reverb chamber you do not want.
This video was right on time. We are moving into our new house next week where I will finally have my studio out of the diningroom/livingroom and into a bedroom. It's a small room that is perfectly square so I wa a little worried. My monitors are a pair of E5 xt's and a T8 sub. Do you think I should I buy something to help me tune my room after I treat it where do you recommend sub placement?
@@HomeStudioCorner yeah, I got my monitors as a package deal from Sweetwater. Mostly for my "leasure listneing". However because 98% of my mixing is practicing on tracks from my church the sub has been helpful in learning how to identify and controlle all that low garbage you get in a small live venue due to proximity effect. BTW, thanks for all your work. I have quite a few of your videos linked in my church training guides.
REW (Room eq wizard) is free. Your best bet is to measure first and then move your treatment to minimize problems. If you're still not happy you could just throw an EQ on master bus and opposite your room response, that's all the software is doing.
i have a complete DIY 4x6ft room for mixing and recording n i have made home-made absorbers for the reflection points, however i have found a room echo/reverb build up at 170-200hz. I have not applied any treatment to the ceiling, could that be causing the room reverb? I know they say you need to have big rooms for recording and mixing, but i'm using what i got. Please help
Yeh, any reflection point. But worst thing is having two reflections facing eachother. Mind you a carpet isnt an acoustic panel. Its just panels are heavy so that would suck to fall on your head i dont even think my celing can support one!
the carpet is not a good advice. better than nothing, sure...but it's not a good absorber. building a cloud is prefered, and than you should leave the floor reflective else the room becomes too dead (in adition to the other side panels)
"Less room, more boom"..... Certainties in this world; death, taxes and a pun from Joe Gilder... 🤣
been watching a dozen of treatment videos but this is the best one, straight tot he point
I have homemade fabric covered wooden boxes with cushions I use in my studio space. It creates bass traps, works as storage and can be used as seating for others in the room. I don't like unitaskers. Find things that are multi-purposed.
Great timing to see this video! I just added 6 more panels (12 total) in my small room. Hung some clouds! Finally sounds amazing. Thanks for all your helpful videos.
Just waiting for my barefoots then I’ll be reshooting my room with REW.
I built all the panels in my room. Took a bit and had to be creative but it sounds so much better for both recording and mixing.
Love your channel.
Treatment is my next project for my home studio. ive been really hesitant about it since i dont know what im doing, but after seeing how u treated your space and how effective a couple panels can be, im just going to go for it and do my best. My space really needs it. Thanks for the tip like usual Joe. 😁
How did it go ?
Thanks, Joe. This is the source of most of my hesitancy to lay down more acoustic and vocal tracks. When I did that earlier this year, the guitar came off tinny and thin, with a sound I interpreted as flutter echo.
Great tips! Carpet definitely helps. Just got 1 panel and some foam squares.
Thanks for the tips! Setting up my room is the next big step for me as a bedroom producer/artist
Thanks for this vid, very informative and to the point
I just built eight absorption panels, 3-1/2” x 24” x 48”. The insulating material is Rockwool. I have yet to use them, with two other big projects taking my time this month. But I’m optimistic they will make flutter echo and comb filtering a thing of the past. Exciting.
Thank you very much for this information, it is very useful. But I think that before building acoustic panels, you have to be in a house or a building where the electrical cables are insulated. Is it true ?
Great piece of advice, I tend to move things around in my home and haven't any room treated properly. I have to set every time I need to record but with this fundamental I got just what the recording needs. Thanks dude!
It was nice to see more of your studio space:)
Very informative. Quick question, how and where do we get the absorption panels made from? There's so much junk on RUclips about panels made of foam, towels, rockwool etc etc. Tips on the absorption panels in the next video maybe?
Just make a frame with 2x4's in the measurements of a rockwool panel, and fill it with that rockwool or other kind of insulation, then finish it off with breathable textile like thin cotton or cheesecloth. That's it. I made 9 of these in my studio, each panel measuring around 30x20x3 inches.
Hello thank you for the video! one question. The comparison video shows how much the absorption placement impacts the sound quality. however i see that you have window and open way to another room (no door) at the back of the room does that impact the sound quality? I always thought since studios are very closed and sound proof, having "enclosed" area is important where you dont here outside sound and the outside doesnt here you. I guess not? let me know your take on this. thanks!
also how much did it cost for those 4 absorptions?
Try:
Moving blankets on the walls and on the floor. Cheap solution.
Flip the breaker switch on the refrigerator. Big difference.
Dynamic mics so I don't pick up my neighbor flushing the toilet.
Quiet computer equipment.
I may try bass traps.
I get the impression that large diaphragm condenser mics give the best recording, but then often require de-essing. I'm thinking diaphragm mics still do ok and don't create that issue?
@mary allen I'm getting good results without bass traps. But I'm open to giving it a try.
@@lar57jsy I love dynamic mics. They are warm and sound very accurate to my ears.
@@josephpetrino1741 it depends of you are mixing or tracking. And what instrument is being tracked? (Is it a bass? Is it acoustic?)
Is also about the polar pattern of the mics. Figure 8 can reject most sound side on but obviously picks up opposite direction. Cardioid can reject whats behind.
Nice video. Did you build your own bass traps? Or buy ready made ones? I ask because i am looking to install some in my room soon. Thanks.
Phil
Primacoustic panels from Sweetwater. Lots of options, not too expensive 😉
Great video! This gives me a lot to think about when conceptualizing studio rooms in the future. I noticed you didn’t say anything about diffusion and I have heard some people say it is good to have both diffusion and absorption or is that more for when trying to create an isolation booth type of thing?
Thank you, Sir, you make it simple clear
Thank you Joe, helpful as always.
This is very helpful, thank you!
thank you for your video, some great tips, i'm going to look up how to make panels
Thank you, I've been learning soooo much. I enjoy the information, it's in depth yet simple enough to understand. I appreciate this.
Great advice as always, Joe! My room has always been my biggest struggle because it’s so boxy. I guess it’s time for more DIT bass traps! 😎👍🏼
Nice and clear
good and simple explanation - thanks!
love this channel :)
Super useful thank you!
hey JOE... thanks for ALL your hard work in putting all these wealth of information out here... I need your sound advice tho on one thing; i have a motif 8 yamaha and i cant seem to be able to get the usb connection with my new macbook pro to work. please advice. i used to think it was a firmware issue until i saw one in this video.
I am in a formal dining room ( now studio) connected to our kitchen. No sound proof. I put my pig nose and mic in a large cardboard box. Covered with a comforter. Over that a larger cardboard box. Keeps the sound of the refrigerator out!
Would making a barricade around you using eight (3 inch) foam panels on stands be better than putting the panels further back near the walls and the to side? This setup is to make a voice over studio in the bedroom.
very practical...thanx, Joe...
I've got a cloud, first side reflections, front corners, (back corners have cutouts that can't be treated ones a door and ones a closet), behind mix position, behind monitor/speakers as you can hear the bass coming from the front of the room most. And the left side wall. Right side wall has a huge window. I have to use a music stand to have my panel for my right first reflection in position.
Rooms mostly even except for a peak around 140hz and another around 350
/400hz ish
Perfect timing, Joe. I've just moved house to a rented 2 bed apartment near a main road and my space to record in is my lounge, as it's furthest away from the road. It's an L-shape, so my desk is in the little bit of the L, the room noise comes from the rest of the lounge!
So, I'm going to have to (tastefully) treat the room with panels that I can hang without ruining the aesthetics of the place. Hmmmm... 🤔
Room treatment is the reason Joe can be a foot away from his condenser and sound crispy. 👌
Great video! Thanks for the clear and useful information☯️🎶❤️
bro i have been hearing your song fighter(yeah i know i am late to the party😂), and i have to say, its one of the best songs i have ever heard, you are seriously under rated, superb work bro keep it up, hope that you rise to new heights.
I always search for specific things related to music production and without fail end up hitting on Joe Gilder's videos without even realising, next time just gonna go straight to the channel 😆😆😑
great video !
"less room more boom" is definitely sticking in my brain 😆
Thanks!
dang..I got dizzy going around in circles... great info Joe...Thanks.
Can I use mattresses on the wall if I don't have any absorption panels?
Thanks Joe! Hadn't heard about the two sides panels...should be able to do something with that :-)
Beyond under 3m i tend to give up, do a bare minimum then mix half on headphones 😆
But there is some reflection points with foam, closed curtain, a sofa and even a towel hung on a door hanger and bookcase directly behind (as diffuser?!). At least i am actually centred on the short wall and measured my speakers though.
I have a long cupboard with no door too, thats like the kind of reverb chamber you do not want.
I work in a house made of bamboos, so i'm waiting for a new room. . What do you think?
Well my room is similar treated like yours. ^^ great video. :)
Very helpful! Do you have a link to those panels?
Nope. Someone local built them from wood and insulation.
Hey Joe! What's the thickness of your panels/bass traps?
This video was right on time. We are moving into our new house next week where I will finally have my studio out of the diningroom/livingroom and into a bedroom. It's a small room that is perfectly square so I wa a little worried. My monitors are a pair of E5 xt's and a T8 sub. Do you think I should I buy something to help me tune my room after I treat it where do you recommend sub placement?
I’ve never used a sub. Room tuning software is cool but I haven’t used it.
@@HomeStudioCorner yeah, I got my monitors as a package deal from Sweetwater. Mostly for my "leasure listneing". However because 98% of my mixing is practicing on tracks from my church the sub has been helpful in learning how to identify and controlle all that low garbage you get in a small live venue due to proximity effect. BTW, thanks for all your work. I have quite a few of your videos linked in my church training guides.
REW (Room eq wizard) is free. Your best bet is to measure first and then move your treatment to minimize problems. If you're still not happy you could just throw an EQ on master bus and opposite your room response, that's all the software is doing.
@@jacobwhite936 Thanks for the tip!
I thought it was better to have a wooden floor than one with carpet in the mix room?
Is your computer totally silent? How do you record without picking up any humming or fan activity from your computer recording so close to it?
I use Apple computers, and they’ve mostly been quiet.
i have a complete DIY 4x6ft room for mixing and recording n i have made home-made absorbers for the reflection points, however i have found a room echo/reverb build up at 170-200hz. I have not applied any treatment to the ceiling, could that be causing the room reverb? I know they say you need to have big rooms for recording and mixing, but i'm using what i got. Please help
Wow… good for you that you’re not letting available room size limit your desire to make some music. Kudos.
The flashlight trick is genius 🔦
Whats the size of this room ?
Hey I just bought studio One..... does anybody know how to take it off demo mode?
Hello do presonus have crossover like behringer x32 have crossover?
Yea that's "pretty cute" 😄
I'm moving into my first own (one room) apartment soon, the place is gonna become nothing but a studio lol.
Thinking of a mic like a flashlight… genius
One of my corners has a rock wall for wood stove . Hah
Why are you talking about speakers? Are you not just recording voice?
Do you still need to tune your speakers to the room after treating it?
What about the ceiling ?
Most pro mixing rooms have an absorbent treatment on the ceiling above the mixing desk that's called a "cloud."
Prevents reflections, etc.
Yeh, any reflection point. But worst thing is having two reflections facing eachother. Mind you a carpet isnt an acoustic panel. Its just panels are heavy so that would suck to fall on your head i dont even think my celing can support one!
My "room" is a corner in a larger space. All I did is get some 2nd hand comforters to square off my corner. Seems to do it. Cost < $30
Hopefully, you "rectangled" it off, or even a damn trapezoid. Square isn't ideal.
@@terrymiller111 its a 7x4 rectangle, approx
Less room more boom is pretty cute actually
the carpet is not a good advice. better than nothing, sure...but it's not a good absorber. building a cloud is prefered, and than you should leave the floor reflective else the room becomes too dead (in adition to the other side panels)
The floor is the one place where you want reflection.
I don’t.
Pfft. That's why I mix in a corn field. No room noise.
Just tractors and rooks
My room sucks!! I have over $10,000 in gear but can't record any good vocals because my bedroom sounds terrible.
I think I can help you… what’s your address? lol
If I don’t have speakers and just record with headphones how should I treat my room
In the thumbnail for the video that 88 key piano looks more like 128. It looks ridiculous
Nope. I work in the backyard.
this was extremely helpful thank you!!