Hello everyone! “EMPATHY IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE.” I want to make a disclaimer that my story is not the story of others. I do NOT speak for anyone else but me. Secondly thank you Shelise & Jonathon for giving me such an important opportunity to raise awareness about extreme religious coercion & the effects of it. Most of all thank you for the kind words of encouragement & giving me the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to discredit and devalue me. Thank you again for the people who took the time to make me feel like I matter. Thank you!!!!!!!! #daughterchasya
It took a lot of courage to do this!! BTW while I think a lot of people do it for absolutely no reason, you definitely DO have a valid reason for not attending family events. BTW, when was this, in Memphis?
Chasya, your soul shined throughout this interview. I'm thankful for you sharing your story and helping us to understand your experiences. Your dog, Oh I love her!!! My dog follows me around when I have bad days.. and he loves me regardless. You are worthy of respect and finding happiness in life. Nothing was your fault and no child is responsible for the actions of adults. Adults failed you and in turn, you are breaking the cycle. ❤ You are such a beacon of light.
I love your name and I love hearing it being said. I’m a mother of 2 neurodivergent sons and I’m so sorry you went through all that you did. Every child deserves to grow up in a loving safe home with parents who accept them for who they are. I’m so glad that you’re away from it now and doing amazingly telling your story and letting people know exactly what is going on in that cult. You’re a strong and extremely intelligent woman. Thank you. ❤🦘🐋🇦🇺
As a neurodivergent woman who grew up modern orthodox this was a fascinating and powerful interview. While a lot of my upbringing was quite different, there definitely are some shared experiences. Some of the things Chasya says here weren't fully translated so I thought I would do a little glossary for those who are curious: -Yeshiva: a seminary. For boys this means grade school, often focused on intensive study of rabbinic texts. For men this means the study of rabbinic texts. Some men do it in their spare time, some are full time scholars, and some go to yeshiva specifically to get rabbinic ordination. -Rashi: Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, French Jewish scholar from the 11th and 12th centuries. Wrote a very straightforward commentary on the bible that is often the first commentary taught to Jewish children. -Upsherin-a celebration after cutting a boy's hair for the first time at the age of 3. -Tosfos Yuntif/Tosfot Yomtov: Rabbi Gershon Shaul Yomtov Lipmann Heller, lived in Bohemia in the 16th and 17th centuries. Highly regarded rabbi who wrote a famous commentary on rabbinic texts. -Kapparot-the practice of waving a chicken around your head and then slaughtering it before the day of atonement. Many communities now just use money to wave around your head and then donate it to charity. Some communities never practiced it to begin with.
I had thought animal sacrifices stopped after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Did the practice only continue (or restart) in certain communities?
@@nerysghemor5781 You're right, but Kapparos are different from the Temple sacrifices. Official sacrifices that were carried out in the Temple, ceased with the destruction of the Temple. Kapparos is a personal , symbolic (and gross!) gesture asking God to accept the chicken instead of the person. The waving around and what is said are the symbolic part. They're then slaughtered to be eaten, but it's not a sacrifice.
It is profoundly sad that as women, no matter what religion or culture, we are blamed for the sins of men! When does it stop?? When will it be enough??
I agree with you, Tamie. It’s sad. I don’t think it will stop, until the afterlife, though I hope I am wrong about that. In the meantime, all of us aware of this injustice, have to try to fight against it, and make people aware, that men and women are equal. By the way, I am a man.
This woman has such a good soul. She gives me chills down my spine because she talks from her heart and she was so terrified. I am at minute 22 and I am already about to cry.
Thank you so so much for this conversation, both of you..I cried through a bunch of it. Man, Chasya, I see you. The fact that you are reclaiming your voice, owning your story, and loving yourself into a place of fierce sovereignty like this, despite ALL of the horror you have experienced, is just unbelievable. Your light is so bright and no 👏 thing 👏 will ever take that away. I deeply admire your strength, heart and transformative power. Bless you.And thank you for breathing life into me and my trauma healing too - it's super hard and not everyone understands.. I cannot wait for part two. 🖤🩶🤍
My mom is retired from CPS, I pray Chasya achieves her goals. I believe she is and will make a difference. I also have ADHD (identified by my mother when I was a toddler) and OCD, anxiety, and depression. The way Chasya puts perfectionism could not be more fitting.
I grew up undiagnosed ADHD and autistic and while not in any cult her discussion of how neurodivergent people are treated are so true! Especially the masking leading to blowup and burnout! While it’s far kinder in comparison in the secular world it’s not by much in many places still! I hope she achieves her goal of social work in these homes and kids who need the intervention of someone who knows what it’s like!
I was fortunate enough to be diagnosed early (around 4-5), especially as a female, but I didn't get any treatment until adulthood. The attitude around me was largely, "You've got X problem. Sure. But I can't see why you can't act normal." It didn't help that I was twice exceptional. "You're smart, so you don't really need these accommodations."
I was just diagnosed at 35. I am exhausted and angry and at least now I know why. I definitely grew up in a high control family but not a high control religion and I can’t imagine how much harder it must be in that situation. ❤️
I wish I had Chasya in my life. So life-smart, empathetic, beautiful inside and out! I learned so much about trauma from this video. I will be watching more again! Thank you!
Wow!! This woman is a true definition of bravery, courage and hope. I am also from Brooklyn and familiar with Flatbush Avenue… it’s still not the safest place. I’m so sorry you had to go through all of that trauma. 😢 I believe your story will bring so much hope and healing for others. Can’t wait to see part 2. 🙏🏽🫶🏽. Thank you sharing shalese ❤
Chasya, I too grew up Orthodox Jewish, and I'm about your age. Hearing your story is truly heartbreaking. Sometimes, people who are mentally unfit, use their "observance" to excuse their mental illness/ bad parenting. Your childhood, resonates with me. I am still Orthodox, and now have a large family of my own. I chose to separate the poor parenting I received, with my own relationship with Judaism and Gd. The orthodox life doesn't have to be traumatic or ugly. When practiced correctly, with love and happiness, it is truly a beautiful way of life, full of community and closeness to Gd. I will daven for you, that you can find that love in your life and have your own unique, loving relationship with Hashem. He always loves you, no matter what. Wishing you all the best.
@leah6970 thank you so much for your beautiful words. As an Orthodox Jew that didn’t either have the best relationship with ny mother I absolutely love and respect the beauty of Judaism. My mother’s shortcomings had nothing to do with Judaism.
Thanks for sharing your story. ❤ people saying parts of her story aren’t true, it’s her experience. She’s brave for speaking out, everyone’s experience is different. She’s not saying everyone in the south is like that, it’s her experience. Heartbreaking story. 💔
Chasya, you are so brilliant! I’m not a Jew, but we are still sisters. I always love the Hasidic women I see in my work so very much. I’m beginning to see that my upbringing, which was pretty abusive, caused me to be broken in ways that mimic what degradation happens in your community. Bless you, you are such a gift.
I love her vibes. I can't imagine what her life was like because I haven't experienced even half of her hardships. But I would love to be her friend. Thank you for opening up and sharing.
Holy shit!!! This was such an important interview and I can’t wait until the next one. As a neurodivergent exmo who has family on my mom’s side back to when mainstream Mormons were polygamous, I relate to a lot of this woman’s story. My mother is neurodivergent and was diagnosed a couple of years ago in her 60’s. I can’t get diagnosed for financial and insurance reasons but I’m pretty sure I have ADHD and I suspect ASD1 also. My dad has neurodivergent traits but is undiagnosed. My brother was diagnosed with ADHD as a minor. He died in his early 20’s as a direct result of addiction which stemmed from, I think, how clueless the mental health community was in the 90’s and early 2000’s. They still have a lot of work to do. I’m so glad I got to hear this story and I’ll be looking out for part 2. Thank you, Shalese for all of the work you do. I’ve gotten much insight and inspiration from the stories you platform. Love and hugs!
It’s not only Hasidic communities. I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a parochial Catholic school. I endured similar abuse and humiliation and terror at home and at school. I was so scarred and traumatized, I never able to have a normal relationship with anyone through out my entire life.
Such an amazing show! Hassia you are a warrior, I can’t imagine the odds you overcame to be where you are. I cried with you and I feel your pain. I wish you only good things and happiness, you deserve the world. You are also an amazing speaker and storyteller, I can see that being your next career move. You’re just amazing.
OMG. This is exactly what my mother did to my hair. The physical punishment was the same. It's beyond horrifying to know others had the same experience.😢
I am Jewish living in Tel Aviv, not religious but lightly tradionational. I do understand that this is a personal story of someone living in the very extreme side of Judisiam. The story is NOT THE NORM of most Jews. The story is really very sad, and Im sorry for the pain that Chasya went through. BUT PLS NOTE: This is not the typical story of most Jewish people. There are good and bad people in every faith. Especially at the extreme end of each religion. Indeed a very abusive family and surroundings.
Her story sounds nothing like any of the Jewish traditions I have ever encountered. At a time when antisemitism is on the rise, I find it irresponsible to share stories like this one without making a concerted effort to distance these cults from other Jewish sects. Jews don’t need to face any more hatred than we already do.
Nobody thinks this is a normal Jewish experience. It was made pretty clear she grew up ultra orthodox. Antisemitism is on the rise because of Netanyahu and what Israel is doing, not because of this brave womans story 🤦♀️@@lyssasletters3232
@@lyssasletters3232I truly hope most people understand there are extremists in nearly all regions and cults. Not for a moment do, I as a humanist, believe that there are many people in the Jewish faith who would behave in those cruel and immoral ways. I think it's very important to know that this happens when religion or politics are corrupted by extremists who do not represent their faith. I don't believe in God but I do believe that the majority of people including religious people have good morals and want to help and protect others. If we know nothing about the abuse we cannot recognise and help those who might need to escape and find somewhere safe.
@@lyssasletters3232thank you for highlighting this. That is my feeling as well. The content creators will defend themselves by saying that they are critical of every other tradition but the thing is is these other Traditions are not constantly being harassed, persecuted and even killed for their faith.
I loved this Linda Listen moment....xxxxx also from a member of the neurospicy club I love the info and the raising awareness regarding ADHD and ASD, as a vegan the chicken and cow story was difficult to hear...x amazing lady...im off to watch part 2....x
I love this interview! Chaysa energy is contagious, the pure strength and resilience she spoke about shows through her mannerisms. Most of all to come out of this with compassion for humanity is truly inspiring. Thank you for sharing a brief part of your life. ❤
We need more than two episodes for this guest! I loved the interview, and the Linda Listen 👌 She’s so right, let’s not all suffer twice. Thank you for speaking out, and your strength is admirable 😊
A strong sense of justice is a beautiful trait of our neurodivergent community. My struggles growing up afab with AuDHD were always caused by misunderstandings. Girls didn't have these diagnoses. My brother had both and was treated accordingly. I was left to struggle. I understand now that I wasn't the problem.
While some Autistic people (particularly those of us who are highly empathetic) can feel a strong sense of justice, it’s a so-called positive stereotype that we all feel it. Just look at Elon Musk.
I loved this interview thank you chasya. I can so relate to all of this. I grew up in the hassidic community in Brooklyn. The dr play is exactly what we all did on the sabbath. Many of my classmates, myself included had lesbian relationships without understanding what it was. Every single world so resonated with me. Can't wait for part 2.
This is really shocking! Many of the women who have left Haredi Judaism and publicized their stories have been lesbians. Based on your experience, is the Haredi world producing an extraordinary number of man-hating lesbians?
What a beautiful soul she is. She is like a ray of sunshine. Thank you for giving her a platform to share her story. The way that her dog came to comfort her. Was so sweet and reminds me of my own dogs and their role in my life.
Thank you for having this guest on. I’m so glad she’s sharing the real deal of her experience…and that of so many others. Well not disclosing everything isn’t lying or deceitful UNLESS it is deceptive. Full, 100% honesty does not mean full disclosure. It’s case by case of where the deception line is.
I’m so sorry that Chasya had such a horrible and traumatic childhood. She is very brave to share her story. Her parting words to you, Shelise, were spot on and well deserved.
YES!! I have ADD and am autistic, and you know how sometimes you hear someone say a thing that you can feel, changing your brain, as you take it in?? I felt ripples in all directions of time and space, when Chasya said: “Masking is Death” WOW 💜⚡️ I feel so similar in many ways, in my thinking and values. I love nothing more than standing up for an underdog…even when it’s me, although that’s always harder than when it’s someone else - Chasya, I am 100% rooting for you- I am in school online to become a certified interpreter for the Deaf, bc there’s only 1 interpreter for every 50 Deaf people in the US, and also bc a huge majority of Deaf kids who are born to hearing adults suffer from neglect and rejection by their family not choosing to learn sign. Partly due to bad advice but hugely influenced by society seeing Deaf people as being Less Than. Now that I’m learning ASL (American Sign Language) I have fallen in love w/ the language bc it’s 100% visual and every single thing has to be communicated so that both communicators can picture or visualize each component of what’s being communicated. It’s a language that makes SO much sense to my neurodivergent brain, which is an excellent example of Universal Design (when you gear the levels of accommodation to support the greatest level of needs/support, many others will always also benefit. Another example is that wheelchair ramps also benefit parents/grownups pushing strollers, and people who have a prosthetic limb) Anyway, I just feel like I can relate to SO much of what you’re sharing, Chasya!! I wish we could hang out - you seem like you’d be a really good friend 💜⚡️
Thank you again for the amazing videos, thank you Chasya, thank you CtC Team. You guys are making a change, and this change will grow I can see that already.
Chasya, I could listen to you talk all day! I cant wait for episode two and hopefully more. Thank you so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable and authentic!!
@marip0sa3833 You can see her speak more on whisky no chaser ep 66 where she explicitly describes what she does online for money. See if you feel the same after that.
Wow! What a story and what a wonderful and amazing woman,. I love her compassion, empathy and honesty. Listening to her made me cry. Cant wait for part two Shelise. ❤
I’ve never been so moved by a video as I have this one. Not that I am Jewish but everything else. I believe I am all these symptoms that Chasya talks about and in a very strange coincidence of finding this video has helped me so much ❤
I’m sorry for Chasya’s awful childhood. She’s so brave to come on here and tell HER story. What a traumatic experience 💔 One thing I wanted to clear up about Judaism. We live by the rules, we don’t die by them. Health and safety always come before any religious obligation. An example, If someone’s life is in danger on the sabbath , we desecrate the sabbath to help them. If a women goes into labor,same. We are not forced to die for our religion. It’s the exact opposite.
28:13 My daughter has special needs, and I always think of what a blessing it is that she was born to me, because it only makes me love her more. It makes me empathize in a different way, and I see all the things she can do rather than those that she can't (yet). Think how fortunate your siblings are for having you as a sister to protect them when your only job was to survive the torment yourself. ❤
“Special needs” is a slur. It’s unfortunate those are the words both the guest and host chose to use (as well as yourself). Disabled needs are human needs, and someone’s identity does not boil down to the specific accommodations or supports they need. “Disabled” is not a dirty word nor is it a synonym for “unable.”
She is a beautiful compassionate woman and I greatly appreciate her sharing her painful story. Thank you Chasia for speaking to help others!!! God bless you!! I’m sure you are a wonderful mother!!!
As someone who grew up orthodox and surrounded by females in school and camp, I can attest that not everyone touched girls or examined girls bodies in childhood. I actually am shocked she thinks that was typical. I'm only at the pre interview clip so I can't respond to anything else yet...
I grew up on a somewhat similar community in another place. I did it with my sister, and I know in seminary girls slept with each other. It does happen. Please don't bellitle people experiences. She is here talking about her experience, I don't think she claims that her experience is how every Jewish community is or even other people in the same community
I'm not fully through the interview either, but I'm also noticing that some of her experiences are not universal experiences in the Orthodox community. I feel so much for her. She has clearly been hurt and traumatized. You can see it as she speaks and in her perception and understanding of the community and her experiences (I'd imagine the neurodivergence plays a role too). I'm in no way judging her, though I can see how much her trauma is very much alive within her. The community does fail people and it needs to do better. That being said, as she clarified in the comment section, her experience is not everyone's experiences. It sounds like her parents had a lot to do with this as well as they seemed ill equipped and in need of help. I hear where she's coming from bec I also grew up in the Orthodox community and I work with clients experiencing religious trauma now in my profession as a licensed therapist. I hope she can find healing and that she is living the life she wants for herself.
OK I'm 51 years old part Puerto Rican part Italian and German American born in Brooklyn New York and back when I was a little girl, I kinda went through the same only my family's catholic and unlike now anyone with autism was viewed as like a freaking abomination... I can't tell you how awful that was ... I have 3 children now and 2 that are on the spectrum... I bet back then there wasn't enough study on it so they basically got the raw end of the stick , I wanna hug you so much and encourage you to keep up the good work!!! You have my 100000 % support and hugs to your inner child ❤
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Chasya, you are an amazing and beautiful woman! I am so sorry for what you have endured! I am thankful that you are able to share your story in hopes that it will help others. You speak eloquently with love, passion, and concern. Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you all the best as you continue your healing. I am sending you positive vibes! ❤
"if you feel restricted, you're not going to feel love for anything" absolutely!! and if you are restricted from an early age, your brain doesn't make the necessary connections to start forming a self and you just kind of float through life, confused and disconnected about eveyrthing. this is my achilles heel. i coped with restriction by dissociating and numbing out from my internal and external world - no likes, no interests, no skills, no goals, no needs, no wants, no preferences, no dislikes, no strengths, no future, no passion, no reflection, no connection. empty. one of my favorite songs is pink floyds "wish you were here", and i never knew who i was yearning for until recently it dawned on me that i'm yearning for true myself/authenticity.
I am sorry you had this experience My experience with kapparos is putting the chickens on baskets, not held by wings and then they went straight back into crates. Nobody killed any chickens in front of us.
I also want to add what a wonderful difference two years has made in this woman. I remember when soft white underbelly popped up in my algorithms and she was in it at the time I thought of her more as rebellious, almost mean spirited when she recounted her story. Today I see that she has gone an amazing transformation, she has come to the point of acceptance of her past, and overcoming her traumatizing childhood experiences growing up in that community. I applaud the growth and change, and I enjoyed this conversation very much. Looking forward to part two.
it's SO wholesome, yet so sad at the same time, that those girls protected you for three hours while you were blacked out. They probably had their own plans, but they stopped whatever it was they were doing to stop anyone from hurting you. Small but impactful acts like that are part of what makes me love humans and love being a human.
There were parts of the interview that made me scratch my head. I converted to Judaism, and I KNOW how many men it takes to make a minyan. I also know that Yom Kippur doesn’t lead into Rosh Hashanah. I just get this weird feeling of things not adding up.
I feel bad for her but her experience of Judaism is like nothing I ever heard before and I am 37 and have been an Orthodox Jew my entire life in NY. Her perception of our faith is so skewed and I feel so sad for her because she is clearly hurting so much from it. This is only referring to when she speaks about how Judaism is a religion based on fear and the ways she was taught about the religion. It’s the exact opposite. She has obviously been through hell so I am not trying to belittle anything she went through but I am just clarifying that anything she said about Orthodox Judaism is from a very specific viewpoint due to all of the trauma she went through Judaism is actually the most loving and accepting religion. We are the only religion that doesn’t believe you have to be one of us to go to heaven or to be considered a good person. It’s very sad for me that she associates all the dysfunction she experienced with the religion because for most of us it is nothing like that.
Yes, I totally agree, and if you saw the first interview on SOFT WHITE UNDERBELLY, you would see more of that, she has gone through an amazing change in the last two years. When I first saw this video, I didn’t even think it was the same person, but when she recounted her story, I recalled some of the same storylines that she talked about in this video. Again, all I can say is that it has been an amazing transformation for her, and I wish her well and of course, once you are a Jew, you are always a Jew, and know that Judaism has a lot of good wisdom. Some of these ultra-Orthodox sects are too restrictive for our modern societies, but you can’t throw out all the good because some of the bad. I hope with the passage of time and healing you can return to Judaism, perhaps to a more modern form, there are many reform Jewish congregations. and communities welcome back any member of the tribe who wants to start over again❤, good luck, I hope you are happy and will be joyous about Judaism in your new life. Of course, growing up in California, and belonging to a Sephardic congregation, where Talmud Torah and Hebrew school were enjoyable and fun, and most of us went to public school during the week, and did our Jewish activities on the weekends surrounded by friends and family. Our experiences are just so totally different. Of course you know the differences between Ashkenazi and Sephardic communities. We are much more open minded. Judaism as I experienced, it is a beautiful experience. I am so sorry that you were part of this UNPLEASANT ULTRA CULT.
I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I'm neither neurodivergent nor religious but I am a liberal Jewish woman from Melbourne Australia. Because I grew up 5 min walk from Beth Rivka ( a girls school which backed into the Yeshiva boys school ) I had wonderful memories and found the teachers to be really lovely. I was part of a youth group too. Which I enjoyed. However as wholesome as it seemed, I didn't grow up with restrictions like you. I don't know what my friends experiences were either. I do know there are extremes in every culture and yours must have been awful with neuro div. Parents especially. I have also seen a Netflix storey called "Unorthodox" giving a similar extreme account of life under Jewish Orthodoxy from a young woman's perspective. Very sad. Keep strong and remain true to your convictions. Your story needs to be heard and shared.
This woman lived a nightmare, there is no doubt about it. Does this behavior exist in our communities, absolutely. Is it 100% how the community works. Absolutely not. Many of us work very hard to bring those guilty to justice, not always easy but it needs to be done.
Wow thank you for sharing your story . I’m Muslim coming for a mixed religion family. I remember when I was a child my mom always told me and my brothers that if we do something wrong , god will have a rope ready for us when we sleep to take our souls . It’s amazing how many things are so similar between Judaism and Islam !!
Having visited Lakewood NJ... she isn't lying about the way locals hate the takeover or the segration from everyone else or the part about seeing anyone who looks like me as childcare or help... it's interesting.
It’s not just Lakewood. It pretty much happens wherever they form their communities. They become so insulated and distinctive that you pretty much know where not to go. It’s not only with Jewish communities, they’re the most prominent cause they’re worldwide but I saw it with Mormon communities in Mexico.
@@Hannahninja.89 As first generation immigrant everyone gets accused of this around the world, I do however believe anti-semitism is a special type of hate like its very specific.
@@OneidaGCantisemitism is propagated because of the diaspora but following migration patterns it is logical that we would form communities with people that are culturally similar to us. They just get the most hate because of antisemitism but that’s why every city has a china town or a Hispanic neighborhood we like what’s familiar. So I totally understand wanting to stick with your own.
I’m a lifelong NJ resident…. I live in Atlantic County and my in-laws are from Monmouth County. I work in Lakehurst, which isn’t far from Lakewood. Coincidentally, I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and am awaiting an autism diagnosis. Wow. Such an intense story… I can’t wait for part 2.
Chasya is a CAMPION. I was raised in a conservative (moderately religious) Jewish home but I have experienced many of the same abuses as Chasya. It's time to speak truth about all of this.
Chaysa you’re amazing!❤ thank you for sharing your story I’m gonna follow you❤ you’ve also touched lives❤ know you’re amazing! And here’s to us hopefully helping you get that gag order off and your daughter back!❤
I was just disappointed that i got here so early and the second interview was not already out xD. This womans story is so important to share and im just so thankful you are sharing it. ❤
This was such a hard listen to. I’m sorry you went through all of this. It’s heartbreaking and horrible. Growing up in Lakewood in the ‘80-‘90s I’m sad that you lumped your experience as this is how it is in Lakewood. Your Lakewood is definitely not the Lakewood I grew up. Some of it I do agree with. I no longer live in Lakewood because of my childhood, which was traumatic in its in own way. And I’ve deviated somewhat but little things, like I wore denim skirts with pockets and a fly. I did not have to wear tigh and stopped wearing short sleeves and short socks at 9, not 3. I’ve never experienced antisemitism or being beaten up by non Jews in Lakewood growing up. (Now when I go back to visit I do experience antisemitism) I know this podcast always clarifies that this is your experience and not a statement of how religion is across the board. But you definitely make it sound like all of Lakewood is your story. Also Lakewood has one of the biggest, if not the biggest Jewish special needs school on the East Coast. In my part of Lakewood special needs and diverse children were whole and lovingly accepted and part of my childhood. Lakewood is huge and diverse so I don’t think it’s fair that you lump all of Lakewood into your painful and traumatic upbringing. I’m happy you found your place your now. I know for me, leaving that environment has helped me grow and become the person I am today
Really sad story, and I'm involved in metal health in the Jewish orthodox community. The truth is that her personal story in totally not the norm. In my experience the Jewish orthodox community is from the most amazing communities I have the opportunity to serve. Her story may be true for her but she doesn't have to tear down the entire community to heal. It's a liable on a wonderful community!
Very irresponsible of the interviewer too. The title makes no sense. This is one person's story of being terribly abused as a child and growing up with limited and dysfunctional parents. Has nothing to do with them being ultra orthodox.
This was a tough listen but well worth it. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Chasya. Also, I wanted to comment specifically about a topic that came up in regards to CSA and perpetrators. There may be more proper treatments available to perpetrators (and those who have the compulsion to perpetrate) in the future by way of drugs meant to lower and inhibit testosterone. There is some interesting research/data out there already showing this to be one of the only medically effective interventions available. I hope to see more research in this area so we as a society can eliminate this mental perversion that so many in society have.
Hello everyone! “EMPATHY IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE.” I want to make a disclaimer that my story is not the story of others. I do NOT speak for anyone else but me. Secondly thank you Shelise & Jonathon for giving me such an important opportunity to raise awareness about extreme religious coercion & the effects of it. Most of all thank you for the kind words of encouragement & giving me the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to discredit and devalue me. Thank you again for the people who took the time to make me feel like I matter. Thank you!!!!!!!! #daughterchasya
It took a lot of courage to do this!! BTW while I think a lot of people do it for absolutely no reason, you definitely DO have a valid reason for not attending family events. BTW, when was this, in Memphis?
Chasya, your soul shined throughout this interview.
I'm thankful for you sharing your story and helping us to understand your experiences.
Your dog, Oh I love her!!! My dog follows me around when I have bad days.. and he loves me regardless.
You are worthy of respect and finding happiness in life. Nothing was your fault and no child is responsible for the actions of adults.
Adults failed you and in turn, you are breaking the cycle. ❤ You are such a beacon of light.
@ AAAAH! I forgot to mention the dog! The dog is amazing and I’m not even a dog person!
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I love your name and I love hearing it being said. I’m a mother of 2 neurodivergent sons and I’m so sorry you went through all that you did. Every child deserves to grow up in a loving safe home with parents who accept them for who they are. I’m so glad that you’re away from it now and doing amazingly telling your story and letting people know exactly what is going on in that cult. You’re a strong and extremely intelligent woman. Thank you. ❤🦘🐋🇦🇺
As a neurodivergent woman who grew up modern orthodox this was a fascinating and powerful interview. While a lot of my upbringing was quite different, there definitely are some shared experiences. Some of the things Chasya says here weren't fully translated so I thought I would do a little glossary for those who are curious:
-Yeshiva: a seminary. For boys this means grade school, often focused on intensive study of rabbinic texts. For men this means the study of rabbinic texts. Some men do it in their spare time, some are full time scholars, and some go to yeshiva specifically to get rabbinic ordination.
-Rashi: Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, French Jewish scholar from the 11th and 12th centuries. Wrote a very straightforward commentary on the bible that is often the first commentary taught to Jewish children.
-Upsherin-a celebration after cutting a boy's hair for the first time at the age of 3.
-Tosfos Yuntif/Tosfot Yomtov: Rabbi Gershon Shaul Yomtov Lipmann Heller, lived in Bohemia in the 16th and 17th centuries. Highly regarded rabbi who wrote a famous commentary on rabbinic texts.
-Kapparot-the practice of waving a chicken around your head and then slaughtering it before the day of atonement. Many communities now just use money to wave around your head and then donate it to charity. Some communities never practiced it to begin with.
Thank you for taking the time to explain. ❤
Gracias - from Spain.
I had thought animal sacrifices stopped after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Did the practice only continue (or restart) in certain communities?
This is not considered a sacrifice. Until the temple is rebuilt, sacrifices will not be practiced.@nerysghemor5781
@@nerysghemor5781 You're right, but Kapparos are different from the Temple sacrifices. Official sacrifices that were carried out in the Temple, ceased with the destruction of the Temple.
Kapparos is a personal , symbolic (and gross!) gesture asking God to accept the chicken instead of the person. The waving around and what is said are the symbolic part. They're then slaughtered to be eaten, but it's not a sacrifice.
It is profoundly sad that as women, no matter what religion or culture, we are blamed for the sins of men! When does it stop?? When will it be enough??
I agree with you, Tamie. It’s sad. I don’t think it will stop, until the afterlife, though I hope I am wrong about that. In the meantime, all of us aware of this injustice, have to try to fight against it, and make people aware, that men and women are equal. By the way, I am a man.
@@tamiewert808 the SHAME MUST SWITCH SIDES!!!!!!!!!!!
This woman has such a good soul. She gives me chills down my spine because she talks from her heart and she was so terrified. I am at minute 22 and I am already about to cry.
No, she doesn't. She could air out her dirty laundry with a Jewish organization, not spread loshon hora on a public world-wide platform.
Omg I came to say this. The way she recalled the slaughter is chilling
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@florentinaluca777 watch her on whisky no chaser ep 66 when she talks about who she really is. You might get a different set of chills.
Find more at Whisky no chaser ep 66.
Thank you so so much for this conversation, both of you..I cried through a bunch of it. Man, Chasya, I see you. The fact that you are reclaiming your voice, owning your story, and loving yourself into a place of fierce sovereignty like this, despite ALL of the horror you have experienced, is just unbelievable. Your light is so bright and no 👏 thing 👏 will ever take that away. I deeply admire your strength, heart and transformative power. Bless you.And thank you for breathing life into me and my trauma healing too - it's super hard and not everyone understands.. I cannot wait for part two. 🖤🩶🤍
My mom is retired from CPS, I pray Chasya achieves her goals. I believe she is and will make a difference. I also have ADHD (identified by my mother when I was a toddler) and OCD, anxiety, and depression. The way Chasya puts perfectionism could not be more fitting.
I grew up undiagnosed ADHD and autistic and while not in any cult her discussion of how neurodivergent people are treated are so true! Especially the masking leading to blowup and burnout! While it’s far kinder in comparison in the secular world it’s not by much in many places still! I hope she achieves her goal of social work in these homes and kids who need the intervention of someone who knows what it’s like!
I was fortunate enough to be diagnosed early (around 4-5), especially as a female, but I didn't get any treatment until adulthood. The attitude around me was largely, "You've got X problem. Sure. But I can't see why you can't act normal." It didn't help that I was twice exceptional. "You're smart, so you don't really need these accommodations."
I was just diagnosed at 35. I am exhausted and angry and at least now I know why. I definitely grew up in a high control family but not a high control religion and I can’t imagine how much harder it must be in that situation. ❤️
I wish I had Chasya in my life. So life-smart, empathetic, beautiful inside and out! I learned so much about trauma from this video. I will be watching more again! Thank you!
Wow!! This woman is a true definition of bravery, courage and hope. I am also from Brooklyn and familiar with Flatbush Avenue… it’s still not the safest place. I’m so sorry you had to go through all of that trauma. 😢 I believe your story will bring so much hope and healing for others. Can’t wait to see part 2. 🙏🏽🫶🏽. Thank you sharing shalese ❤
Chasya, I too grew up Orthodox Jewish, and I'm about your age. Hearing your story is truly heartbreaking. Sometimes, people who are mentally unfit, use their "observance" to excuse their mental illness/ bad parenting. Your childhood, resonates with me.
I am still Orthodox, and now have a large family of my own. I chose to separate the poor parenting I received, with my own relationship with Judaism and Gd. The orthodox life doesn't have to be traumatic or ugly. When practiced correctly, with love and happiness, it is truly a beautiful way of life, full of community and closeness to Gd. I will daven for you, that you can find that love in your life and have your own unique, loving relationship with Hashem. He always loves you, no matter what. Wishing you all the best.
Thank you! ❤
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@leah6970 thank you so much for your beautiful words. As an Orthodox Jew that didn’t either have the best relationship with ny mother I absolutely love and respect the beauty of Judaism. My mother’s shortcomings had nothing to do with Judaism.
Thanks for sharing your story. ❤ people saying parts of her story aren’t true, it’s her experience. She’s brave for speaking out, everyone’s experience is different. She’s not saying everyone in the south is like that, it’s her experience. Heartbreaking story. 💔
Chasya, your story is both heartbreaking and beautiful the way you have come out of all of this. I can't wait for part 2!!!!
Chasya, you are so brilliant! I’m not a Jew, but we are still sisters. I always love the Hasidic women I see in my work so very much. I’m beginning to see that my upbringing, which was pretty abusive, caused me to be broken in ways that mimic what degradation happens in your community.
Bless you, you are such a gift.
I love her vibes. I can't imagine what her life was like because I haven't experienced even half of her hardships. But I would love to be her friend. Thank you for opening up and sharing.
Thank you so much for sharing your story 🤍
This woman has such a beautiful soul, through all her trauma and pain. She radiates kindness and sincerity. God bless her.
What a courageous lady, you are so strong and i look forward to the second part.
Holy shit!!! This was such an important interview and I can’t wait until the next one. As a neurodivergent exmo who has family on my mom’s side back to when mainstream Mormons were polygamous, I relate to a lot of this woman’s story. My mother is neurodivergent and was diagnosed a couple of years ago in her 60’s. I can’t get diagnosed for financial and insurance reasons but I’m pretty sure I have ADHD and I suspect ASD1 also. My dad has neurodivergent traits but is undiagnosed. My brother was diagnosed with ADHD as a minor. He died in his early 20’s as a direct result of addiction which stemmed from, I think, how clueless the mental health community was in the 90’s and early 2000’s. They still have a lot of work to do.
I’m so glad I got to hear this story and I’ll be looking out for part 2. Thank you, Shalese for all of the work you do. I’ve gotten much insight and inspiration from the stories you platform.
Love and hugs!
It’s not only Hasidic communities. I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a parochial Catholic school. I endured similar abuse and humiliation and terror at home and at school. I was so scarred and traumatized, I never able to have a normal relationship with anyone through out my entire life.
Thank you so much for being brave and sharing your story! I'm looking forward to part 2
Such an amazing show! Hassia you are a warrior, I can’t imagine the odds you overcame to be where you are. I cried with you and I feel your pain. I wish you only good things and happiness, you deserve the world. You are also an amazing speaker and storyteller, I can see that being your next career move. You’re just amazing.
OMG. This is exactly what my mother did to my hair. The physical punishment was the same. It's beyond horrifying to know others had the same experience.😢
I am Jewish living in Tel Aviv, not religious but lightly tradionational. I do understand that this is a personal story of someone living in the very extreme side of Judisiam. The story is NOT THE NORM of most Jews. The story is really very sad, and Im sorry for the pain that Chasya went through. BUT PLS NOTE: This is not the typical story of most Jewish people. There are good and bad people in every faith. Especially at the extreme end of each religion. Indeed a very abusive family and surroundings.
Her story sounds nothing like any of the Jewish traditions I have ever encountered. At a time when antisemitism is on the rise, I find it irresponsible to share stories like this one without making a concerted effort to distance these cults from other Jewish sects. Jews don’t need to face any more hatred than we already do.
Nobody thinks this is a normal Jewish experience. It was made pretty clear she grew up ultra orthodox. Antisemitism is on the rise because of Netanyahu and what Israel is doing, not because of this brave womans story 🤦♀️@@lyssasletters3232
Notice the channel is CULTS to Conciseness.
@@lyssasletters3232I truly hope most people understand there are extremists in nearly all regions and cults. Not for a moment do, I as a humanist, believe that there are many people in the Jewish faith who would behave in those cruel and immoral ways.
I think it's very important to know that this happens when religion or politics are corrupted by extremists who do not represent their faith. I don't believe in God but I do believe that the majority of people including religious people have good morals and want to help and protect others. If we know nothing about the abuse we cannot recognise and help those who might need to escape and find somewhere safe.
@@lyssasletters3232thank you for highlighting this. That is my feeling as well. The content creators will defend themselves by saying that they are critical of every other tradition but the thing is is these other Traditions are not constantly being harassed, persecuted and even killed for their faith.
Chasya! Thank you! I can't wait for part 2! 🎉
I loved this Linda Listen moment....xxxxx also from a member of the neurospicy club I love the info and the raising awareness regarding ADHD and ASD, as a vegan the chicken and cow story was difficult to hear...x amazing lady...im off to watch part 2....x
I love this interview! Chaysa energy is contagious, the pure strength and resilience she spoke about shows through her mannerisms. Most of all to come out of this with compassion for humanity is truly inspiring. Thank you for sharing a brief part of your life. ❤
She’s clearly on drugs. It’s insane that you people can’t see that.
Thank you for sharing your story you are one of many in the ultra orthodox who have been abused in this way unfortunately
We need more than two episodes for this guest! I loved the interview, and the Linda Listen 👌 She’s so right, let’s not all suffer twice. Thank you for speaking out, and your strength is admirable 😊
A strong sense of justice is a beautiful trait of our neurodivergent community. My struggles growing up afab with AuDHD were always caused by misunderstandings. Girls didn't have these diagnoses. My brother had both and was treated accordingly. I was left to struggle. I understand now that I wasn't the problem.
While some Autistic people (particularly those of us who are highly empathetic) can feel a strong sense of justice, it’s a so-called positive stereotype that we all feel it. Just look at Elon Musk.
Same. Same.
Sending love to Chasya for what she has been through. Thank you for sharing your story, Chasya. I am better for having listened to it.
I loved this interview thank you chasya. I can so relate to all of this. I grew up in the hassidic community in Brooklyn. The dr play is exactly what we all did on the sabbath. Many of my classmates, myself included had lesbian relationships without understanding what it was. Every single world so resonated with me. Can't wait for part 2.
lol same 😂i was raised religious in flatbush
This is really shocking!
Many of the women who have left Haredi Judaism and publicized their stories have been lesbians.
Based on your experience, is the Haredi world producing an extraordinary number of man-hating lesbians?
What a beautiful soul she is. She is like a ray of sunshine. Thank you for giving her a platform to share her story. The way that her dog came to comfort her. Was so sweet and reminds me of my own dogs and their role in my life.
Thank you for having this guest on. I’m so glad she’s sharing the real deal of her experience…and that of so many others. Well not disclosing everything isn’t lying or deceitful UNLESS it is deceptive. Full, 100% honesty does not mean full disclosure. It’s case by case of where the deception line is.
I’m so sorry that Chasya had such a horrible and traumatic childhood. She is very brave to share her story. Her parting words to you, Shelise, were spot on and well deserved.
Chasya is so eloquent and a great advocate 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 she is a blessing
Eloquent?
שיעור מרגש ועוצמתי. כל פעם מחדש אני מתפעל מהיכולת שלך לשלב חכמה, אמונה, ותובנות לחיים בצורה כל כך ברורה ומרשימה. תודה שאתה נותן לנו כל כך הרבה.
YES!! I have ADD and am autistic, and you know how sometimes you hear someone say a thing that you can feel, changing your brain, as you take it in??
I felt ripples in all directions of time and space, when Chasya said:
“Masking is Death”
WOW 💜⚡️
I feel so similar in many ways, in my thinking and values. I love nothing more than standing up for an underdog…even when it’s me, although that’s always harder than when it’s someone else
- Chasya, I am 100% rooting for you-
I am in school online to become a certified interpreter for the Deaf, bc there’s only 1 interpreter for every 50 Deaf people in the US, and also bc a huge majority of Deaf kids who are born to hearing adults suffer from neglect and rejection by their family not choosing to learn sign. Partly due to bad advice but hugely influenced by society seeing Deaf people as being Less Than.
Now that I’m learning ASL (American Sign Language)
I have fallen in love w/ the language bc it’s 100% visual and every single thing has to be communicated so that both communicators can picture or visualize each component of what’s being communicated. It’s a language that makes SO much sense to my neurodivergent brain, which is an excellent example of Universal Design (when you gear the levels of accommodation to support the greatest level of needs/support, many others will always also benefit. Another example is that wheelchair ramps also benefit parents/grownups pushing strollers, and people who have a prosthetic limb)
Anyway, I just feel like I can relate to SO much of what you’re sharing, Chasya!! I wish we could hang out - you seem like you’d be a really good friend
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This is a wow episode! Keep them coming👏
What a great episode! Thank you so much for sharing.
Thank you again for the amazing videos, thank you Chasya, thank you CtC Team. You guys are making a change, and this change will grow I can see that already.
Chasya, I could listen to you talk all day! I cant wait for episode two and hopefully more. Thank you so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable and authentic!!
So weird cuz I was thinking that too, she's very enchanting.
@marip0sa3833 You can see her speak more on whisky no chaser ep 66 where she explicitly describes what she does online for money. See if you feel the same after that.
awww. the way the dog came to you and gave you a beautiful support.
Wow! What a story and what a wonderful and amazing woman,. I love her compassion, empathy and honesty. Listening to her made me cry. Cant wait for part two Shelise. ❤
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I hope you have an amazing life. ❤🎉
Thank you for this interview, ladies! Super job! Can't wait for part 2!
She is so strong to share her story so publicly ❤✌️
I’ve never been so moved by a video as I have this one. Not that I am Jewish but everything else. I believe I am all these symptoms that Chasya talks about and in a very strange coincidence of finding this video has helped me so much ❤
Love this episode. And cliffhanger is juicy, can't wait for next part ❤
I am so distraught listening to this. I wish this young brave lady every happiness and health.
I love how free she is. This interview showed me a lot about myself. Awesome
I could listen to you all day long..mind-blowing and spoken so profoundly. Nothing but the best for you❤
Wow what bravery to be so candid about the truth of the cult experience you went through, may your mind and heart be healed with time beautiful woman.
I’m sorry for Chasya’s awful childhood. She’s so brave to come on here and tell HER story. What a traumatic experience 💔
One thing I wanted to clear up about Judaism. We live by the rules, we don’t die by them. Health and safety always come before any religious obligation. An example, If someone’s life is in danger on the sabbath , we desecrate the sabbath to help them. If a women goes into labor,same. We are not forced to die for our religion. It’s the exact opposite.
What a lovely and powerful woman! I grew up undiagnosed in a fundamental household, it's so incredibly tough. Thank you for sharing your story.
28:13 My daughter has special needs, and I always think of what a blessing it is that she was born to me, because it only makes me love her more. It makes me empathize in a different way, and I see all the things she can do rather than those that she can't (yet). Think how fortunate your siblings are for having you as a sister to protect them when your only job was to survive the torment yourself. ❤
“Special needs” is a slur. It’s unfortunate those are the words both the guest and host chose to use (as well as yourself). Disabled needs are human needs, and someone’s identity does not boil down to the specific accommodations or supports they need. “Disabled” is not a dirty word nor is it a synonym for “unable.”
Thank you Beautiful Brave Women!! ..... I'm invested Now, & canNOT wait till the next episode.....
Much Love, & Many Blessings to you, & Yours 💕
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Thank you. Your courage is inspiring.
She is a beautiful compassionate woman and I greatly appreciate her sharing her painful story. Thank you Chasia for speaking to help others!!! God bless you!! I’m sure you are a wonderful mother!!!
Honestly, the work that you are doing is phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2.
Love the honesty and willingness to inform us, brilliant woman!
Thanks so much for sharing your story🙏🏼
As an audhd person the discussion of neurodivergence is music to my ears
As someone who grew up orthodox and surrounded by females in school and camp, I can attest that not everyone touched girls or examined girls bodies in childhood. I actually am shocked she thinks that was typical. I'm only at the pre interview clip so I can't respond to anything else yet...
I know. It's sad that she thinks this was normal. I never experienced this and don't know anyone who experienced this.
Same
I grew up on a somewhat similar community in another place. I did it with my sister, and I know in seminary girls slept with each other. It does happen. Please don't bellitle people experiences. She is here talking about her experience, I don't think she claims that her experience is how every Jewish community is or even other people in the same community
Maybe the lack of boundaries was a response to shame, neglect, fear and isolation? I m curious as well ....
I'm not fully through the interview either, but I'm also noticing that some of her experiences are not universal experiences in the Orthodox community. I feel so much for her. She has clearly been hurt and traumatized. You can see it as she speaks and in her perception and understanding of the community and her experiences (I'd imagine the neurodivergence plays a role too). I'm in no way judging her, though I can see how much her trauma is very much alive within her. The community does fail people and it needs to do better. That being said, as she clarified in the comment section, her experience is not everyone's experiences. It sounds like her parents had a lot to do with this as well as they seemed ill equipped and in need of help. I hear where she's coming from bec I also grew up in the Orthodox community and I work with clients experiencing religious trauma now in my profession as a licensed therapist. I hope she can find healing and that she is living the life she wants for herself.
That was very enlightening. Thank you both,
I love the REALNESS of this interview
OK I'm 51 years old part Puerto Rican part Italian and German American born in Brooklyn New York and back when I was a little girl, I kinda went through the same only my family's catholic and unlike now anyone with autism was viewed as like a freaking abomination... I can't tell you how awful that was ... I have 3 children now and 2 that are on the spectrum... I bet back then there wasn't enough study on it so they basically got the raw end of the stick , I wanna hug you so much and encourage you to keep up the good work!!! You have my 100000 % support and hugs to your inner child ❤
Abuse is not because of the religion, it's because of the person. Sadly abuse happens in all faiths and socio-economic backgrounds.
Ye, but the religious environment usually fosters it. It's not because of the religion, but there's a connection that should not be dismissed
@@allia94hachifunny argument. I don't recommend you sign up for a debate team.
It doesn't happen in every religious group it happens in religious groups who take everything to the absolute extreme
Sociology is the scientific study of human social behavior, social change, and the social causes and consequences of human behavior.
Sociologists study how people interact within groups, organizations, and societies, and how these interactions shape and are shaped by cultural and social structures.
Chasya, you are an amazing and beautiful woman! I am so sorry for what you have endured! I am thankful that you are able to share your story in hopes that it will help others. You speak eloquently with love, passion, and concern. Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you all the best as you continue your healing. I am sending you positive vibes! ❤
😮oh wow 😳 lots of Bells and whistles going off... Thank you Ma'am for sharing your story
Love from Texas Milady ❤
"if you feel restricted, you're not going to feel love for anything" absolutely!! and if you are restricted from an early age, your brain doesn't make the necessary connections to start forming a self and you just kind of float through life, confused and disconnected about eveyrthing. this is my achilles heel. i coped with restriction by dissociating and numbing out from my internal and external world - no likes, no interests, no skills, no goals, no needs, no wants, no preferences, no dislikes, no strengths, no future, no passion, no reflection, no connection. empty. one of my favorite songs is pink floyds "wish you were here", and i never knew who i was yearning for until recently it dawned on me that i'm yearning for true myself/authenticity.
I really appreciate this comment.
I am sorry you had this experience
My experience with kapparos is putting the chickens on baskets, not held by wings and then they went straight back into crates. Nobody killed any chickens in front of us.
She is so authentic and kind.
I had no idea they did animal sacrifice. That is SO WRONG in every conceivable way, and it definitely does not please god.
I also want to add what a wonderful difference two years has made in this woman. I remember when soft white underbelly popped up in my algorithms and she was in it at the time I thought of her more as rebellious, almost mean spirited when she recounted her story. Today I see that she has gone an amazing transformation, she has come to the point of acceptance of her past, and overcoming her traumatizing childhood experiences growing up in that community. I applaud the growth and change, and I enjoyed this conversation very much. Looking forward to part two.
Chasya your life and parallels to mine. Wow. So literally validating
it's SO wholesome, yet so sad at the same time, that those girls protected you for three hours while you were blacked out. They probably had their own plans, but they stopped whatever it was they were doing to stop anyone from hurting you. Small but impactful acts like that are part of what makes me love humans and love being a human.
33:03 this is such bs. There is soooo much therapy to get in the community
You are entitled to your opinion but can't you express it in better English and without vulgarity?
There were parts of the interview that made me
scratch my head. I converted to Judaism, and I KNOW how many men it takes to make a minyan. I also know that Yom Kippur doesn’t lead into Rosh Hashanah. I just get this weird feeling of things not adding up.
Another brainwashed person. ABUSED IS ABUSED NO MATTER WHAT!
That was moving and powerful I'm glad you are doing well I will wait for the second episode ❤️❤️❤️
I feel bad for her but her experience of Judaism is like nothing I ever heard before and I am 37 and have been an Orthodox Jew my entire life in NY. Her perception of our faith is so skewed and I feel so sad for her because she is clearly hurting so much from it.
This is only referring to when she speaks about how Judaism is a religion based on fear and the ways she was taught about the religion. It’s the exact opposite. She has obviously been through hell so I am not trying to belittle anything she went through but I am just clarifying that anything she said about Orthodox Judaism is from a very specific viewpoint due to all of the trauma she went through Judaism is actually the most loving and accepting religion. We are the only religion that doesn’t believe you have to be one of us to go to heaven or to be considered a good person. It’s very sad for me that she associates all the dysfunction she experienced with the religion because for most of us it is nothing like that.
Yes, I totally agree, and if you saw the first interview on SOFT WHITE UNDERBELLY, you would see more of that, she has gone through an amazing change in the last two years. When I first saw this video, I didn’t even think it was the same person, but when she recounted her story, I recalled some of the same storylines that she talked about in this video. Again, all I can say is that it has been an amazing transformation for her, and I wish her well and of course, once you are a Jew, you are always a Jew, and know that Judaism has a lot of good wisdom. Some of these ultra-Orthodox sects are too restrictive for our modern societies, but you can’t throw out all the good because some of the bad. I hope with the passage of time and healing you can return to Judaism, perhaps to a more modern form, there are many reform Jewish congregations. and communities welcome back any member of the tribe who wants to start over again❤, good luck, I hope you are happy and will be joyous about Judaism in your new life. Of course, growing up in California, and belonging to a Sephardic congregation, where Talmud Torah and Hebrew school were enjoyable and fun, and most of us went to public school during the week, and did our Jewish activities on the weekends surrounded by friends and family. Our experiences are just so totally different. Of course you know the differences between Ashkenazi and Sephardic communities. We are much more open minded. Judaism as I experienced, it is a beautiful experience. I am so sorry that you were part of this UNPLEASANT ULTRA CULT.
I'm so sorry for what you've gone through.
I'm neither neurodivergent nor religious but I am a liberal Jewish woman from Melbourne Australia.
Because I grew up 5 min walk from Beth Rivka ( a girls school which backed into the Yeshiva boys school ) I had wonderful memories and found the teachers to be really lovely. I was part of a youth group too. Which I enjoyed.
However as wholesome as it seemed, I didn't grow up with restrictions like you.
I don't know what my friends experiences were either. I do know there are extremes in every culture and yours must have been awful with neuro div. Parents especially.
I have also seen a Netflix storey called "Unorthodox" giving a similar extreme account of life under Jewish Orthodoxy from a young woman's perspective. Very sad.
Keep strong and remain true to your convictions. Your story needs to be heard and shared.
This woman lived a nightmare, there is no doubt about it. Does this behavior exist in our communities, absolutely. Is it 100% how the community works. Absolutely not. Many of us work very hard to bring those guilty to justice, not always easy but it needs to be done.
She seems to have such a sweet and loving soul. I'm so sorry she had to go through all of that ❤❤❤
What a beautiful lady and a beautiful soul. This interview touched me. ❤️
I can't wait for the second part!
Rebecca was NOT married off at THREE years old!!! This is one of the lies Muslims use. And Rebecca was not Leah’s sister. Rachel was sister to Leah.
Love Chasya! Her story is one of terror and hurt. I am happy that she has been able to get out and talk about her past. Bless you ❤️🩹🙏
Wow thank you for sharing your story . I’m Muslim coming for a mixed religion family. I remember when I was a child my mom always told me and my brothers that if we do something wrong , god will have a rope ready for us when we sleep to take our souls .
It’s amazing how many things are so similar between Judaism and Islam !!
Having visited Lakewood NJ... she isn't lying about the way locals hate the takeover or the segration from everyone else or the part about seeing anyone who looks like me as childcare or help... it's interesting.
It’s not just Lakewood. It pretty much happens wherever they form their communities. They become so insulated and distinctive that you pretty much know where not to go. It’s not only with Jewish communities, they’re the most prominent cause they’re worldwide but I saw it with Mormon communities in Mexico.
@@Hannahninja.89 As first generation immigrant everyone gets accused of this around the world, I do however believe anti-semitism is a special type of hate like its very specific.
@@OneidaGCantisemitism is propagated because of the diaspora but following migration patterns it is logical that we would form communities with people that are culturally similar to us. They just get the most hate because of antisemitism but that’s why every city has a china town or a Hispanic neighborhood we like what’s familiar. So I totally understand wanting to stick with your own.
I never considered how an extreme religious culture impacted gentrification, it’s an intersection to explore for sure
I live 30 minutes from Lakewood. She is correct.
This was so good. Thanks so much. ❤🎉
What a beautiful soul. And the dog was cherry on top. ❤❤❤
I’m a lifelong NJ resident…. I live in Atlantic County and my in-laws are from Monmouth County. I work in Lakehurst, which isn’t far from Lakewood. Coincidentally, I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and am awaiting an autism diagnosis.
Wow. Such an intense story… I can’t wait for part 2.
Chasya is a CAMPION. I was raised in a conservative (moderately religious) Jewish home but I have experienced many of the same abuses as Chasya. It's time to speak truth about all of this.
Chaysa you’re amazing!❤ thank you for sharing your story I’m gonna follow you❤ you’ve also touched lives❤ know you’re amazing!
And here’s to us hopefully helping you get that gag order off and your daughter back!❤
I was just disappointed that i got here so early and the second interview was not already out xD. This womans story is so important to share and im just so thankful you are sharing it. ❤
Would love to see a roundtable discussion with those former believers and current adherents.
Such a good idea! I can here her pain and trauma. It doesn't have to do with religion. May she find healing.
Beat my notifications to the video! Sounds like it'll be another interesting one from the title.
What an amazing woman ...I can't wait for part 2 !!!!! She is fantastic
The similarities sparked so many things for me even though we didn’t have the same religious background it was so much similar and awakening for me.
This was such a hard listen to. I’m sorry you went through all of this. It’s heartbreaking and horrible.
Growing up in Lakewood in the ‘80-‘90s I’m sad that you lumped your experience as this is how it is in Lakewood.
Your Lakewood is definitely not the Lakewood I grew up.
Some of it I do agree with. I no longer live in Lakewood because of my childhood, which was traumatic in its in own way. And I’ve deviated somewhat but little things, like I wore denim skirts with pockets and a fly. I did not have to wear tigh and stopped wearing short sleeves and short socks at 9, not 3. I’ve never experienced antisemitism or being beaten up by non Jews in Lakewood growing up. (Now when I go back to visit I do experience antisemitism) I know this podcast always clarifies that this is your experience and not a statement of how religion is across the board. But you definitely make it sound like all of Lakewood is your story. Also Lakewood has one of the biggest, if not the biggest Jewish special needs school on the East Coast. In my part of Lakewood special needs and diverse children were whole and lovingly accepted and part of my childhood.
Lakewood is huge and diverse so I don’t think it’s fair that you lump all of Lakewood into your painful and traumatic upbringing.
I’m happy you found your place your now. I know for me, leaving that environment has helped me grow and become the person I am today
Really sad story, and I'm involved in metal health in the Jewish orthodox community. The truth is that her personal story in totally not the norm. In my experience the Jewish orthodox community is from the most amazing communities I have the opportunity to serve. Her story may be true for her but she doesn't have to tear down the entire community to heal. It's a liable on a wonderful community!
Very irresponsible of the interviewer too. The title makes no sense. This is one person's story of being terribly abused as a child and growing up with limited and dysfunctional parents. Has nothing to do with them being ultra orthodox.
This was a tough listen but well worth it. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Chasya. Also, I wanted to comment specifically about a topic that came up in regards to CSA and perpetrators. There may be more proper treatments available to perpetrators (and those who have the compulsion to perpetrate) in the future by way of drugs meant to lower and inhibit testosterone. There is some interesting research/data out there already showing this to be one of the only medically effective interventions available. I hope to see more research in this area so we as a society can eliminate this mental perversion that so many in society have.