good information that a crossbow hunter can use in a practical way! i wasn't all that happy with my grouping at 40 yd plus last summer when i bought my new rival x and used my normal ki setup..... 300 gr arrow with 100 gr mechanical, coming to around a 420 gr arrow complete with chinese lighted nock. had very respectable 60 yd groups with my preceding ki bow and all my xbows befoe these two ki rigs. on a hunch, i took one of the ki hyperlites which i had never used before due to being too light, imho. screwed in an old leftover rusted 147gr traditional fieldpoint and never looked back. shrunk my 60 yd groups back down to about a rested 2 to 3 inches, which was what i had been used to for years now. 150 gr mechanicals are not that easy to find, but ki started marketing theirs last summer and they went to the woods with me and the rival x. the extra 50 gr up front didn't hurt my chrono's feelings much.....maybe high 380's to 390 and pretty quiet too for that speed! sorry for being longwinded but that was my experience late last summer. i don't like hunting without confidence in my equipment, especially in my old age!!!!! your video brought back fond memories of a bow setup i don't have to worry on these coming weeks.....unless it blows up on me while checking my zero in a few weeks!!!!!
Nice! Got some of these in 0.006 tolerance. Fireknock literature says even longer arrows in .008 straightness fly true, and he is an absolute master at arrow/ bolt design and engineering. I've seen good arguments in other places that echo this, so my vote is for the $59 price all the way. Great to see this data, thanks!!
Great video Matt. Only complaint I have is that the video was not released a week sooner. I had just purchased a dozen .003 shafts at the cost of around $70. No where near the price point of these. The bolt you broke down was the insert fairly easy to remove? What is the inner diameter of these shafts? Thanks for another helpful review!
I'm wanting to buy some new arrows/bolts for my crossbow and I prefer a pretty stiff shaft because I plan to use a 110gn insert and a stiff arrow would work best for the setup I'm wanting to achieve. Can you tell me how stiff these arrows are. I'm looking for something between 350-360 spine. Thanks Matt.
Matt did you check the FOC with the Magnus attached? I’ve looked at these many times but I do like a heavier bolt. Great review & recommendations to Sanlida Also what fletching jig do you use?
@@draggindeeroutdoors thanks Matt. You don’t have to take the time to do it. I just wondered if you had. Right now I’m really liking those Killer Instinct KE series with the Magnus 150 SB. Curse you & Ranch Fairy 😂😂😂 I’ve seen the Goat Tuff at Farmstead so I think I’ll get one of those.
Just purchased an X1 after watching your videos. I made your recommended changes to the Hypr bolts as well as fletching up some Zombie Slayers I had. Both sets are within a couple grains of 350 without heads. The bow is accurate (sub 1" groups at 40 yds) so far), but I'm only getting speeds of just over 300 fps using 125 grain field points if the scope speed is to be believed. Plenty fast enough to kill a deer, but way off of the speeds you saw. Any thoughts on speeding it up or don't worry about it?
While arrow flight is important,but how consistently they fly with each other. I would try a 12 pack and see how consistently they are with each other.???
I’m a first year crossbow hunter and have a killer instinct burner 415.I’ve tuned the arrows like this fellow said and I do not like the killer instinct bolts.I went with carbon express
Very good question. I’m going to save this for a video. The short answer is….im not sure it’s necessarily harder, but it’s different than a compound. Stay tuned I’ll explain 😉
🎯👍 Good priced bolts impressive straightness, like to stay right around 390 - 400 gr. total weight that keeps me in the 400ish velocity range, the 150 gr 3" cut Swhacker broadhead would get that weight, they fly almost exactly like a field point for me. -W. Liggett
Thanks for the review man. I agree with the stiffer vanes and heavier inserts.
Thank you, glad you liked the review!
Matt, great review, thanks for sharing.
You’re very welcome!
Hey Matt! I have a guy that builds custom arrows and bolts and does an amazing job. I was using Serious and had to make the switch. Dude is legit!
Straight Shooter Custom Arrows by chance?
@@draggindeeroutdoors It sure is. He has done a few for me now, and they are great.
Excellent review .......as usual.
Appreciate that, David! Thanks for watching!
Nice work. I use Centerpoint veins, they are cheap but also do a great job at different distances. 😎🙏🏻😎
👍👍 Thanks for the info!
good information that a crossbow hunter can use in a practical way! i wasn't all that happy with my grouping at 40 yd plus last summer when i bought my new rival x and used my normal ki setup..... 300 gr arrow with 100 gr mechanical, coming to around a 420 gr arrow complete with chinese lighted nock. had very respectable 60 yd groups with my preceding ki bow and all my xbows befoe these two ki rigs. on a hunch, i took one of the ki hyperlites which i had never used before due to being too light, imho. screwed in an old leftover rusted 147gr traditional fieldpoint and never looked back. shrunk my 60 yd groups back down to about a rested 2 to 3 inches, which was what i had been used to for years now. 150 gr mechanicals are not that easy to find, but ki started marketing theirs last summer and they went to the woods with me and the rival x. the extra 50 gr up front didn't hurt my chrono's feelings much.....maybe high 380's to 390 and pretty quiet too for that speed! sorry for being longwinded but that was my experience late last summer. i don't like hunting without confidence in my equipment, especially in my old age!!!!! your video brought back fond memories of a bow setup i don't have to worry on these coming weeks.....unless it blows up on me while checking my zero in a few weeks!!!!!
Good stuff!! Best of luck this fall!
Nice! Got some of these in 0.006 tolerance. Fireknock literature says even longer arrows in .008 straightness fly true, and he is an absolute master at arrow/ bolt design and engineering. I've seen good arguments in other places that echo this, so my vote is for the $59 price all the way. Great to see this data, thanks!!
Thanks for watching!
Great video Matt. Only complaint I have is that the video was not released a week sooner. I had just purchased a dozen .003 shafts at the cost of around $70. No where near the price point of these. The bolt you broke down was the insert fairly easy to remove? What is the inner diameter of these shafts? Thanks for another helpful review!
Insert wasn’t bad to get out, no different than other arrows. Standard ID/OD for crossbows.
Great Review
Thank you!!
Can you test both the victory crossbow bolts
If I can get my hands on some…sure!
I'm wanting to buy some new arrows/bolts for my crossbow and I prefer a pretty stiff shaft because I plan to use a 110gn insert and a stiff arrow would work best for the setup I'm wanting to achieve. Can you tell me how stiff these arrows are. I'm looking for something between 350-360 spine. Thanks Matt.
Not sure what the spine is on these, but they are the same GPI as KI HYPR arrows. Should not be any problem putting a 110 insert in them!
@@draggindeeroutdoors ok. Thanks a lot.
Matt did you check the FOC with the Magnus attached? I’ve looked at these many times but I do like a heavier bolt.
Great review & recommendations to Sanlida
Also what fletching jig do you use?
Hey Greg! I did not measure FOC, I can if that’s something you need. I use the Goat Tuff fletching jig and absolutely love it!
@@draggindeeroutdoors thanks Matt. You don’t have to take the time to do it. I just wondered if you had. Right now I’m really liking those Killer Instinct KE series with the Magnus 150 SB. Curse you & Ranch Fairy 😂😂😂
I’ve seen the Goat Tuff at Farmstead so I think I’ll get one of those.
@@GregK-pv5xe they HYPE KEs and paired with a Magnus head is a fantastic combo🤘🤘
Just purchased an X1 after watching your videos. I made your recommended changes to the Hypr bolts as well as fletching up some Zombie Slayers I had. Both sets are within a couple grains of 350 without heads. The bow is accurate (sub 1" groups at 40 yds) so far), but I'm only getting speeds of just over 300 fps using 125 grain field points if the scope speed is to be believed. Plenty fast enough to kill a deer, but way off of the speeds you saw. Any thoughts on speeding it up or don't worry about it?
Shoot me an email. Nothing to worry about but I want to make sure you’ve got things sighted in the way KI sets this scope up. Draggindeer@gmail.com
While arrow flight is important,but how consistently they fly with each other. I would try a 12 pack and see how consistently they are with each other.???
Yeah, that’s a good plan. I just didn’t have enough daylight. My guess is…if you nock tune them, they’ll be pretty darn good 👍
Vital x 430 makes another appearance over the Swat x1? What am i to think about that sir? New favorite crossbow?
Vital X 430 is a close 2nd…SWAT X1 is still the top dog for me.
With the Swat x1 would the best vane be in the up position?
Yes it would!
I’m a first year crossbow hunter and have a killer instinct burner 415.I’ve tuned the arrows like this fellow said and I do not like the killer instinct bolts.I went with carbon express
What didn't you like about the KI arrows? Anything in particular?
Do xbows have a harder time accurately shooting fixed blades than compound bows? If so, why?
The are about 100fps faster
@@lacky903 how does that affect them more? Seems it would lessen their arc.
Very good question. I’m going to save this for a video. The short answer is….im not sure it’s necessarily harder, but it’s different than a compound. Stay tuned I’ll explain 😉
@@draggindeeroutdoors thanks. Really interest in comparing differences between compounds and xbows.
@@paulheberling2750 here ya go, man! Hope this helps and makes sense!
dose this crossbow have a trigger creep on it ??
A little, but it’s not bad. To me it almost feels like a two stage trigger. Easy movement, then breaks clean.
awesome thank you I just purchased this crossbow.
@@draggindeeroutdoors can you do a video on this crossbow vs the swat x1 ?
What do you think about this crossbow ?
@@665motocross8 Did you buy the vital x 430 elite ?.
Wow, that is really great….
🎯👍 Good priced bolts impressive straightness, like to stay right around 390 - 400 gr. total weight that keeps me in the 400ish velocity range, the 150 gr 3" cut Swhacker broadhead would get that weight, they fly almost exactly like a field point for me. -W. Liggett
Check em out, they’re pretty good!!
@@draggindeeroutdoors thanks for the info, I saw them on Amazon, very inexpensive, impressive straightness & you show they fly well 🎯. -W. Liggett
You could just sight it in and go hunt.
Why do that when there is accuracy left for the taking!?
That's a very cheap arrow, i hope they take your advice
Even if they don’t, it’s a good, inexpensive shaft to build upon!
Hi, I don’t speak english, that’s why I didn’t understand anything. Could you tell me what he said about these bolts ?, what Did he recommend to do ?