Fuck that shit, Bobby. And that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Having the umpires there is part of the game and part of the experience. You can't just try to take the human part of it out - if you start with the umpires, why not have robots field and bat? You fucking reject.
Bobby Bobby yeah purists need an umpire, but who else watches baseball? anyone that goes to a baseball game or watches it on tv doesn't really care about precision calls if they don't really care for the sport. taking away the few forms of drama in a sport isn't going to help ratings nor will it really speed up the game. there is always a human element even when computers are involved. also if you want to make that argument, every fast food place keeps workers at the registers for value reasons. a computer can do their job with more accuracy at one time costs but they still keep people behind the register
3-1 was a strike. It's not where the ball is caught, it's where it crosses the plate. It clearly catches the outside corner on the face of the plate and is obviously knee high. The 3-2 pitch was a little bit questionable but the 0-1 was definitely a strike that wasn't called. The umpire definitely played the "I'm untouchable" card with his ejections as if almost daring Ortiz to make contact with him. Farrell throwing out the ump was classic. A crazy sequence overall
3-1 was a strike but the catcher muffed it. Because Ortiz raised a stink, Kulpa was going to ring him up even if the ball was 10 feet over his head on the next pitch.
Umpire for 10-12 year olds. They throw in arcs. The ball crosses the strike zone and lands an inch behind the plate. It makes it hard as all get out to explain to coaches why you called it a strike
It's pretty close so I don't blame you for thinking it's a strike but if you play it at .25 speed, it breaks outside right at the front corner of the plate
I was ejected from an Orioles game before it even started in 2013. As Tommy Hunter was walking from first base line to the pitchers pin, I told him he sucked and needs to sell hotdogs and beer instead. About 10 minutes later. Security came and told me I need to leave the premises for harassing players.
I really think Team Managers and coaching staff should be exempt from being ejected from a game. Some of these officials are asking for trouble, with some pretty stupid calls. Actually, watching Baseball from here in the UK, a lot of groundouts are fairly dodgy. I'm surprised more team managers do not call for a review.
The YES coverage declined to mention the terrible strike 3 that incensed Ortiz but NESN declined to mention why Farrell was still in the dugout after being ejected
He got a break on the check swing, when in fact he did swing. Which would have made it 2-2. The one the catcher caught low was also a strike. Ortiz should stop being a baby. The manager arguing balls and strikes is LL stuff. I agree throwing out Ortiz at the end was over the top, but I don't know what Ortiz was saying the whole time he was ranting like a two year old.
Mark Edwards Literally this was bases loaded, one out, and down a run. Getting called on the last pitch fucked Boston. There most famous and probably the most constant hr hitting guy on the team gets fucked. The 3-1 was a strike. 3-2 wasn’t. *Cubs fan*
3:21 Damn, is Yes Network the absolute dogshit of bias commentating. Unfair to Miller? Dude got two questionable calls one was borderline and the other was ball four to tie the game. I understand home commentators have a certain set up but between them and the White Sox they have absolute dogshit bias to calling a game fairly.
After acting like that, the next pitch could've sailed to the backstop and been called a strike. That said, they've got to get the umpire out of the ball/strike calls. Nothing effects the game more. It's admittedly subjective. The technology exists to consistently get it right.
I look at it this way. I'm a Red Sox fan. A huge Red Sox fan. The first one was a strike it's not where the catcher catches it. It's where the ball crosses the plate. And the ball hit the corner. The second one to him though was bullshit. The second one was low.
One thing I will say, though. Papi's ejection was kinda legit. If you look closely, you'll see that when he got back to the dugout, he threw his bat and gloves right outside the dugout.
The 3-1 pitch was absolutely a strike, but the 3-2 pitch was a ball. Ortiz should've known anything close would've possibly been a strike, so he should've been swinging. The ump did take Ortiz's whining after the 3-2 pitch personally, though, which he should've been better than.
My opinion. The umpire made the right call on the first controversial strike call. Throwing out ferrel was something he had to do, because he was in his face, and I believed he bumped him or spit on him. The call that struck out Ortiz was dumb, and throwing Ortiz out of a game was ridiculous. I'm a player and a little league umpire, and I also have no bias on this being a mariners fan. (Also idk what happened to ferrel but he probably should be fined or suspended for staying in the dugout after being thrown out)
so heres what im thinking. im thinking the 2-1 pitch was a missed strike, ump realized it after the call. the 3-1 pitch was CLOSE so he went with strike to make up for the missed 2-1 strike. of course ortiz thinks its a ball because of how close it was (and where it was caught maybe) and is gettin close to gettin tossed when the coach comes and takes that ejection for Ortiz (like they said in the booth) ump knows the coach is taking the bullet here and obviously lets Ortiz off. then on the 3-2 Ortiz KNOWS its the same pitch and very clearly a strike, he also realizes hes close to getting booted so he just walks off, the ump notices the coach STILL IN THE PARK and ejects Ortiz since the coach obviously wont follow procedure. Thats my take on it. only reason this is mildly controversial is because its big papi with a chance to win the game AT HOME. ofc emotions will flare
Its the pitch he was called out on that was the worse of those 2 questionable called strikes. The video didn't show the replay, but it was below his knees.
no it wasnt....its not where the catcher catches the ball...its where it crosses the plate. both pitches were over the plate and at or above the knee when they crossed the front edge of the plate. both were good calls.
the 3-1 pitch was gross.. it was one of the better pitches ive ever seen.. a tad low but nasty.. now, the 3-2 pitch... wow.. fuck that.. it was less than 12 inches off of the ground crossing the plate.. and 10 inches when the catcher caught it.. for strike zone reference, a person at 6' 3'' has their knees at 25 inches..
MEALSONWHEELS a strike isnt determined by where it ends up but by whether or not it went through the strike zone it ended low yes but it went through it.
MrBTG balk basically means runners on base walk, plus batter gets a ball ball-walk balk!!! If the count is 3balls and a strike then yes runer gets walked to first!!!
Ethan gough the way he's taking it off and back one doesn't mean he's has something under there, he's either nervous for all he pressure or he's just simply sweaty. I do the same when I pitch.
I have absolutely, positively, NO sympathy for pro athletes who lose their sh** when they don't like a call. Or even when they get ejected. They are adults and professionals. If I pulled that kind of crap in my job, I wouldn't just be sent away for the day--I would be fired. And I'll just go ahead and preempt the comments I know are coming about emotions running high. That's BS. Emotions run high in a lot of different lines of work. But for some reason we've all decided that in sports its a license to blow your top, or (occasionally) even assault someone. In the real world, that's a night in a jail cell. In sports, its a fine and a possible suspension with pay. BS.
2:24 it appears the 3-1 pitch was a strike barely gabbing the corner of the plate from the top down view, then the 3-2 @ 2:36 It appears over the plate but low. I still to this day don't understand why at bat calls can't be reviewed and overturned by irrefutable footage. I'm not a Boston fan BTW. I just never understood why they couldn't just give the coaches three challenges in a game. That wouldn't slow the game down too horribly and fans would be delighted to see the Umpires in baseball finally have their calls not only be scrutinized, but possibly be overturned.
Say what you want about the strike 2 pitch. But that was in the same spot as the previous two pitches which were called balls. That strike 3 pitch was at Papis shins. Total in your fave call. Should've been fired/suspended
My favorite part was Ron Kulpa tossing Farrell and Farrell says "no no YOU'RE outta here!"
My favorite part was Ron kulpa tossing Ortiz
Good thing YES network isn't biased. Calling a strike when the ball almost hit the dirt.
Yankees fan. Love the intensity of this rivalry!!!
I just realized thats Andrew Miller. Jesus he looks differen without his beard
jpotts1515gaming yeah i know right. pitch motion is the same but he looks very different.
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jpotts1515gaming dead asssss
stupid no facial hair rule the yankees have
Watched this live, core childhood memory😭😭😭
im a yankees fan
and the 3-2 pitch was not a strike
The best part is at 3:10 when the kid and girl in front row are recording lol!
This was a prime example of an umpire making it all about him when he tossed Ortiz.
zidane5527 Oh yea. Umps are worse than most cops when it comes to ego.
dalton I assume you've been arrested before and have a chip on your sholder
Abusing the equipment (slamming the bat and helmet down) is, in theory, an automatic ejection. That specifically was why Ortiz was ejected.
Fuck that shit, Bobby. And that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Having the umpires there is part of the game and part of the experience. You can't just try to take the human part of it out - if you start with the umpires, why not have robots field and bat? You fucking reject.
Bobby Bobby yeah purists need an umpire, but who else watches baseball? anyone that goes to a baseball game or watches it on tv doesn't really care about precision calls if they don't really care for the sport. taking away the few forms of drama in a sport isn't going to help ratings nor will it really speed up the game. there is always a human element even when computers are involved. also if you want to make that argument, every fast food place keeps workers at the registers for value reasons. a computer can do their job with more accuracy at one time costs but they still keep people behind the register
LOL, this was hilarious to watch. Papi doing his best George Brett.
Ortiz did a good job of keeping it together. Really held himself back nicely
He was a study in self control.
No dugout phones were murdered
I thought a run could be walked in, I'm confused
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Paul O’Neill’s “Oh my” at 1:41 makes me laugh every time
When did George Takei become a color commentator?
3-1 was a strike. It's not where the ball is caught, it's where it crosses the plate. It clearly catches the outside corner on the face of the plate and is obviously knee high. The 3-2 pitch was a little bit questionable but the 0-1 was definitely a strike that wasn't called. The umpire definitely played the "I'm untouchable" card with his ejections as if almost daring Ortiz to make contact with him. Farrell throwing out the ump was classic. A crazy sequence overall
3-1 was a strike but the catcher muffed it. Because Ortiz raised a stink, Kulpa was going to ring him up even if the ball was 10 feet over his head on the next pitch.
I think that is he fastest I've ever seen Ortiz run
Lmao
I know where the catcher caught the ball is not in the zone, but look at that movement, that was nasty... The overhead shows it was over the plate
I remember this game like it was yesterday
Me too. If Kulpa wasn't an asshole, Ortiz walks to tie the game and its possible Hanley hits a sac fly to put the Sox in the lead.
lmao, i remember that game like it was yesterday. i was sitting 4 rows back. i was laughing so hard, I was about to die
Rule #1 , you can't argue balls and strikes.
Here, folks, is the definition of a make up call
I'll never understand why coaches or players yell at the ump. Nothing ever changes.
Get your 2cents in dummy. Don’t be a punk
I woke up from a nap to see this as a Red Sox fan. This is the definition of a rude awakening
The thing is that pitch was very nasty
Umpire for 10-12 year olds. They throw in arcs. The ball crosses the strike zone and lands an inch behind the plate. It makes it hard as all get out to explain to coaches why you called it a strike
That was clearly a strike in the replay it barely hit the corner, McCann just caught it in a bad way.
Strike 3 was also clearly a ball
Ball 4
Pitch was low, camera angles made it look like it nicked the plate.
Low and away.
So if you claim it's low, why say it nicked the plate? Doesn't matter if it nicks the plate or not if it's low like you said.
Baseball: all we need is for umps to square up and throw down with the players and we have top notch entertainment.
I've always found it funny how animated managers get when arguing with umps. It's almost like they are doing it on purpose for the fans entertainment.
2:27 overhead camera shows it hit the front of the plate. just had an insane amount of break on it, and catcher was crossed up so it looked bad.
you're insane if you thought that was a strike.
@@billyfraiser6298 glad ur still upset about this like 4 years later :)
It's pretty close so I don't blame you for thinking it's a strike but if you play it at .25 speed, it breaks outside right at the front corner of the plate
Strike 2 was a strike, the catcher just dropped it. Strike 3 was nowhere near a strike and everyone knows it
"The umpire, after 2 shitty calls, ejects David Ortiz for nothing" should be the new title
It’s funny cause the 3-2 call was actually worse than the 3-1 call, it shows how important catcher framing is
3-1 pitch was a strike. I'm neither a Yankees nor Red Sox fan.
feezy243 Yeah, it was. The 3-2 pitch was down at his ankles
More like at his calf muscle. It was about 5 inches low.
Nowhere close to the zone.
3-1 was a strike, and as anyone who has played baseball knows, on 3-2, as a batter, you have to be swing at anything even remotely close
The second pitch of the at-bat (1st in the video) was also a strike that was called a ball.
I was ejected from an Orioles game before it even started in 2013. As Tommy Hunter was walking from first base line to the pitchers pin, I told him he sucked and needs to sell hotdogs and beer instead. About 10 minutes later. Security came and told me I need to leave the premises for harassing players.
5 years later yankees got the worst call on odor 😐
Payback.
such great role models for young fans
I really think Team Managers and coaching staff should be exempt from being ejected from a game. Some of these officials are asking for trouble, with some pretty stupid calls.
Actually, watching Baseball from here in the UK, a lot of groundouts are fairly dodgy. I'm surprised more team managers do not call for a review.
The YES coverage declined to mention the terrible strike 3 that incensed Ortiz but NESN declined to mention why Farrell was still in the dugout after being ejected
He got a break on the check swing, when in fact he did swing. Which would have made it 2-2. The one the catcher caught low was also a strike. Ortiz should stop being a baby. The manager arguing balls and strikes is LL stuff. I agree throwing out Ortiz at the end was over the top, but I don't know what Ortiz was saying the whole time he was ranting like a two year old.
There was no way that all of them were strikes though. I can give him one of them but the probability that they are all strikes? Fuck that.
Ortiz's ego is as big as his ass.. his rep is way over inflated, because Torre did not want his pitchers to protect their teammates.
Mark Edwards Literally this was bases loaded, one out, and down a run. Getting called on the last pitch fucked Boston. There most famous and probably the most constant hr hitting guy on the team gets fucked. The 3-1 was a strike. 3-2 wasn’t. *Cubs fan*
The Umpire is clearly blind he made two terrible strike calls
At least Ortiz didn't throw bats from the dugout onto the field like what Andre Dawson and Milton Bradley, Jr. did.
It's a thing called Roid Rage. Calm down Ortiz
So hard to watch that the commentators want to agree that pitch was a strike.
That was strike. The catcher wasn’t ready
Ron kulpa was a Yankees fan this game and I love it seeing steroidtiz getting thrown out
3:21 Damn, is Yes Network the absolute dogshit of bias commentating. Unfair to Miller? Dude got two questionable calls one was borderline and the other was ball four to tie the game. I understand home commentators have a certain set up but between them and the White Sox they have absolute dogshit bias to calling a game fairly.
The ump gave the correct calls on this one. Those were strikes, just a nasty pitch.
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The first one I’ll give you but the 3-2 was low and the pitch tracker showed that. Sound like a homer.
3-1 pitch was a strike (McCann framed it really badly). 3-2 was probably a ball, but it was borderline.
3-2 wasn't even close to being a strike
that ump acting like a total badass for throwing out Ortiz. Ortiz could have crushed that fool to a pulp. Ump's lucky
Some "people " are so irrational.
Big babies with all the over the top gestures.
After acting like that, the next pitch could've sailed to the backstop and been called a strike. That said, they've got to get the umpire out of the ball/strike calls. Nothing effects the game more. It's admittedly subjective. The technology exists to consistently get it right.
Great pitch
2022 Hall of Fame brings me back
I look at it this way. I'm a Red Sox fan. A huge Red Sox fan. The first one was a strike it's not where the catcher catches it. It's where the ball crosses the plate. And the ball hit the corner. The second one to him though was bullshit. The second one was low.
Agree on both. But you got to know as a player if I just pissed the umpire off and showed him like like that the zone will be huge on the next pitxh
Jacob Graham yeah that's true too. It's the ninth inning too. The umps want to go home. They all stood on their feet for 3+ hours.
Ortiz could have laid that ump out but would have to pay a fine larger than that ump's salary. Tough decision.
One thing I will say, though. Papi's ejection was kinda legit. If you look closely, you'll see that when he got back to the dugout, he threw his bat and gloves right outside the dugout.
Yeah, but that's not really the point though.
This fucking add is on everything
The umpire screwed Miller on the first pitch you see. It was a strike.
The 3-1 pitch was absolutely a strike, but the 3-2 pitch was a ball. Ortiz should've known anything close would've possibly been a strike, so he should've been swinging. The ump did take Ortiz's whining after the 3-2 pitch personally, though, which he should've been better than.
The 3-2 call was worst of all of them
so glad Miller is with Cleveland
Either way, that pitch was nasty
All of that and the guy still struck out.
My opinion. The umpire made the right call on the first controversial strike call. Throwing out ferrel was something he had to do, because he was in his face, and I believed he bumped him or spit on him. The call that struck out Ortiz was dumb, and throwing Ortiz out of a game was ridiculous. I'm a player and a little league umpire, and I also have no bias on this being a mariners fan. (Also idk what happened to ferrel but he probably should be fined or suspended for staying in the dugout after being thrown out)
the umpires are ridiculous
so heres what im thinking. im thinking the 2-1 pitch was a missed strike, ump realized it after the call. the 3-1 pitch was CLOSE so he went with strike to make up for the missed 2-1 strike. of course ortiz thinks its a ball because of how close it was (and where it was caught maybe) and is gettin close to gettin tossed when the coach comes and takes that ejection for Ortiz (like they said in the booth) ump knows the coach is taking the bullet here and obviously lets Ortiz off. then on the 3-2 Ortiz KNOWS its the same pitch and very clearly a strike, he also realizes hes close to getting booted so he just walks off, the ump notices the coach STILL IN THE PARK and ejects Ortiz since the coach obviously wont follow procedure. Thats my take on it. only reason this is mildly controversial is because its big papi with a chance to win the game AT HOME. ofc emotions will flare
it's completely a strike people just love to criticize umpires. look at it from the top down view it's 100% a strike
Its the pitch he was called out on that was the worse of those 2 questionable called strikes. The video didn't show the replay, but it was below his knees.
no it wasnt....its not where the catcher catches the ball...its where it crosses the plate. both pitches were over the plate and at or above the knee when they crossed the front edge of the plate. both were good calls.
the 3-1 pitch was gross.. it was one of the better pitches ive ever seen.. a tad low but nasty..
now, the 3-2 pitch... wow.. fuck that.. it was less than 12 inches off of the ground crossing the plate.. and 10 inches when the catcher caught it.. for strike zone reference, a person at 6' 3'' has their knees at 25 inches..
MEALSONWHEELS a strike isnt determined by where it ends up but by whether or not it went through the strike zone it ended low yes but it went through it.
uh, i know.
"it was less than 12 inches off of the ground crossing the plate.. and 10 inches when the catcher caught it"
The ump took it personally
Ahh the game of baseball, where you are so afraid of a batter you walk them instead of just being a good pitcher.
I’d lose my mind too if I was David 😅
The strikeout pitch was actually a worse call than the one before.
The third strike was low but the one before was actually a strike.
I have a question on a balk does the batter go to 1st
Storm 6 No. On a balk, the runners on base move up 1 base. (for example: A runner on second would move to third, a runner on third would score.)
MrBTG balk basically means runners on base walk, plus batter gets a ball ball-walk balk!!! If the count is 3balls and a strike then yes runer gets walked to first!!!
Very on point
As a Yankee fan I don't much for Ortiz, or the Red Sox... glad the call went our way though... hehe!!! ;)
That pitcher kept rubbing his hat....does he have something under there???
Ethan gough the way he's taking it off and back one doesn't mean he's has something under there, he's either nervous for all he pressure or he's just simply sweaty. I do the same when I pitch.
I have absolutely, positively, NO sympathy for pro athletes who lose their sh** when they don't like a call. Or even when they get ejected. They are adults and professionals. If I pulled that kind of crap in my job, I wouldn't just be sent away for the day--I would be fired.
And I'll just go ahead and preempt the comments I know are coming about emotions running high. That's BS. Emotions run high in a lot of different lines of work. But for some reason we've all decided that in sports its a license to blow your top, or (occasionally) even assault someone. In the real world, that's a night in a jail cell. In sports, its a fine and a possible suspension with pay. BS.
Sad that none of these guys can fight.
Just run their mouth.
Farrell should have been fined 100k for not leaving the dugout and then storming back on the field.
Biggest robbery in Red Sox history?
Get lost Farrell, you've been tossed. 3:12, the girl behind home plate with the blue hat, lol.
the strike was a marginal pitch - could go either way. but ortiz did not deserve to be ejected. that umpire acted like a 10 year old
who ended up winning the game?
2:24 it appears the 3-1 pitch was a strike barely gabbing the corner of the plate from the top down view, then the 3-2 @ 2:36 It appears over the plate but low. I still to this day don't understand why at bat calls can't be reviewed and overturned by irrefutable footage. I'm not a Boston fan BTW. I just never understood why they couldn't just give the coaches three challenges in a game. That wouldn't slow the game down too horribly and fans would be delighted to see the Umpires in baseball finally have their calls not only be scrutinized, but possibly be overturned.
Say what you want about the strike 2 pitch. But that was in the same spot as the previous two pitches which were called balls. That strike 3 pitch was at Papis shins. Total in your fave call. Should've been fired/suspended
glad he threw out steroid boy
it went across the plait and then curved way off so good call
Ortiz blew a 3-1 count
What happened in the next at bat??
Who the hell is this umpire? What a joke.
Listen to to the homer announcers!
No way that was s strike 3 that was just the ump showing up Ortiz and the Sox.
So what did Ramirez do?
No dog in this fight. It was a strike
Lol. All that over a correct call
Technically this is a strike, it's not where the ball lands its where it some across the plate another example of Ortiz being a hot head
There is no cock sucking way that BOTH of those pitches were strikes. One of them was a strike AT BEST.
Logan woodward yes it does
lol u got 25 likes from repeating what the announcer said
Agreed. The 3-2 pitch was definitely not a strike, and I hate the yankees.
So who won?
Why did he throw out Ortiz after he's in the dug out?! This is weird lol
The second strike looked bad but I think it was. Strike 3 on the other hand was too low
THIS HAPPENED MAY 6, 2016.
Lol the girl in the front row at 3:10. That would be my reaction haha
I was going to make a snide racial comment.......but these rich, over payed crybabies aren't worth degrading myself.
Who won the game?
folks the deed happens at 1:41