Our timber frame workshop: wattle and daub. Part III. Lime Plaster
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Mixing and applying a traditional haired lime plaster. Our plaster is mixed with 1bucket lime putty, 3 buckets sand, and 1/2 bucket manilla rope fibers.
that is one happy man, doing what he loves, by himself and his pretty lady, with infinite patience, wisdom, intelligence, and skill. with just a few simple, tools I for one envy this man. what more could a man ask for,?
+Arnold Espenberg Thank you so much for the kind words, indeed, i need nothing more!
You sure don't see this lost art done very often anymore. I love the look of these old timber frame and daub workshops or homes for that matter. Its a shame really I believe they look so much better than the newer modern homes of today.
I love your 'art of working', not too fast, as a team, steady, high quality and with love of family and environment, GREAT JOB!!!!!!!! USA needs more of mankind like you!
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Man this is the prettiest one I have seen.
Don't see a lot of wattle and daub these days, but in this application it's perfect. And the lime plaster finish looks great. Beautiful job. Thanks for posting.
This is better than meditation! Loved this. Thank you so much! Beautiful!
I am 68 and disabled, but have dreamed my whole life about living in a barn. Watching you build this barn yourself gives me ideas and hope. It is ingenious how you did this alone, with doggie backup. I'm impressed. My first house I gutted and rebuilt, but that was 40 years ago, with health. Well done to you.
+Kathleen Schallock Its never too late to live your dreams, theres no time like the present.
again you have given a comprehensive. demonstration on your topic.I like to think how the fibers used have come all the way from straw,sometimes it was run through a cow first. To you will find fiberglass strands being used in modern concrete driveway and sidewalk construction. This quadruples the life of the concrete. thanks again for your time.
Very impressive....saying you are you are quite the craftsman is an understatement!!
Those trees surrounding the workshop were little saplings when the foundation was set! Wow though.... just amazing at how it's came together! I could have passed by a house like this before watching the videos and not really paid much attention to the architecture. Now knowing what it takes to construct a building like this i will always have an appreciation of what it takes. I've been interested in cobb construction for some time and this takes that method up by several degrees.
For the 3rd time I watch your videos always with pleasure. I do not know what the use of this construction is for you. At
a young age, a teacher told me not to go fast, but to do a good job,
because in 50 years people seeing your work will only say one thing: it
is well Done or it's done wrong. In 50 years people will say looking at your constructio: "CA IT'S BEAUTIFUL WORK"
Having just watched the last video: "Well, I'm glad the hard part is over."
Me two minutes into *this* video: "Oh..."
Muchas gracias por las imágenes. Recuerdo a mi padre construyendo nuestra casa en los años 80 en el sur de Chile. Gracias por los ritmos de tu trabajo que se confunden con el bosque y son uno sólo. Gigantes
+Julius Caesar kammel Thank you for the kind words.
What we call "cement" as in concrete is ground-up sand and lime. So essentially you are cementing the walls. The rope fibler adds cohesion and mabe some tensile strength. This technique is also called "stucco" and is very effective, dates at least from the renaissance. Knew about it theoretically, but first time I've ever seen it done. And now I see why you poked all those holes in the daub. They give the stucco a grip. Should last maybe 1500 years.
Excellent work. A true medieval workshop. And thank you for your service.
had an old house that had lattice and plaster walls - easy to heat house as the walls retained heat - in the summer had to keep fans going all the time - too hot.impressed with your work - my grand fathers and father were handy!!!!!!
Sounds like you needed roof insulation. I built a thatched timber frame barn with wattle and daub walls and the thatch kept it warm in winter and cool in summer.
Went to your Blog and am now a Follower ! You & your Wife are amazing People!
thanx for doin videos like this one you help me a lots I goin to build a hoase just like this one for mi and my family thanx
When I first saw the ingredients of your daub I thought to myself "Where's the cow poo... is this guy a bit of a wuss?" Now that I've seen you actually use the process I think you're absolutely right! Those old boys from way back must have stunk to high heaven. Thanks for posting and good luck with the project.
+TheRunereaper haha! Yes most old recipes did call for dung, we did a few test bricks and found our clay sticky enough…perhaps the dung in the past was from using cows to mix the daub as some have theorized. Thanks for commenting!
Wonderful work, Mr. & Mrs Chickadee.
I think your building is awesome! Thank you Mr. C.
What an incredible amount of work! Looks great!
It's really a piece of art. Thanks for posting!
Mr. Chickadee is steady as you go. Dang good worker!
Wow.... You have a lot of patience and skill. Really nice.
My whole house was plastered with lime plaster (no fibres) 15 years ago. September was the month because of its moisture and not to much heat to let the lime cure. My question to Mr. Chickadee: Here we throw the plaster on to the wall (brick) as it seems to adhere better. You stroke it on to the wall, is it because of the rope fibres?
Like always, incredible to watch and learn from. The only thing that I would have expected any different was your little pooch. I would have envisioned a wirey haired Baskervillian hound of sorts...if that's a breed. Ha Ha... Cute dog though:)) I have two adopted labs and a border collie/lab cross give-a-way.
thanks, all ours are adoptions or rescues.
Thank a million for sharing this vid, when I was a child growing up in Jamaica, my grandparents had a house where the siding was wattle daub, today that trade is a lost art
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing your experience!
+william3636 More than welcome!
Wow… beautiful
Mesmerizing. Great work !
That was the most beautiful mud!
Be interested in an update (is there one?) about how the lower part by the ground has lasted. Looking at the overhang of the eaves, I think they don't stick out enough for a two storied structure. Thus the earth plaster / daub would get wet and slowly be washed away / loose integrity. This is what has occured in New Zealand where it rains a lot. Building with earth is fine, but very wide eves are required even for single story structures. Although this our climate might be wetter / have more driving rain.
Yeah, now that you mention it, that’s probably a big reason the lower part of European wattle and daub buildings have cobblestone for the base of the building
I LOVE THAT NAME!!! Mr. Chickadee!! You guys are a great inspiration, keep it up!! I love this house, very well done! :D
+Levi Clays Thank you!
Mr. Chickadee You are cluckedy welcome, my tender white meat feathered friend. God bless you, and your humble home! :)
Looks really good.
the fuckin patience this guy have! great job
@2:49. Would it have made a difference in adhesion of the plaster if you stroked downward? I assume that's what the downward sloping holes were for in the cob.
Beautiful work, BTW.
I was a little worried at the end of the last video that you were going to just leave the outer surface made of clay! This structure is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship, well done!
+Lane Votapka Sorry to worry you! Thanks for the kind words!
+Lane Votapka lol i understand your worry when i first seen the vidio i didnt totaly read the title , all i read was timber frame , thats what drew me to this then i seen the lath he was doing i thought it was cool looking but impracticle , when i read the whole title it made sence to me
Once again.... stay awesome.
Good job! I think I will give it a try myself.
love and passion thats the way.. good stuff....
QUE PACIENCIA, EXCELENTE TRABAJO.
This must've been how they built Tudor homes in England.
Love your work
Excellent work. Very well done.
I actually liked the natural brown color of the daubing better than the light gray color. The brown was more friendly looking and blended into the woods better. It had a nice earthy look and feel to it.
However, I do understand why you put the lime plaster coating over the daubing. It still looks pretty cool though. Sure is a heck of a lot of work!
There is nothing stopping you from adding an oxide (as you might concrete) to colour the lime to a shade of brown or a shade of black. It may not be period but apply some artistic license.
I'd absolutely love to learn how to do this
This was the teaser course...
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Quote. "Those who play it safe, never contribute anything good for the betterment of mankind".
good job
1. глиняная смесь даст усадку, появятся трещинки в районе примыкания к дереву. Считаю, что не стоило спешить с известковым раствором. Придется ремонтировать.
2. Вместо волокон можно использовать мелко резанную солому (необходима соломарезка), отходы производства конопли, шелуху от зерна с мельницы (полова). Если резать самому, то все же стоило придумать гильотину, что ли...
Мне еще предстоит свой дом штукатрить. Спасибо за ваш труд,он очень вдохновляет.
+Архитектор Ansambl You are correct, small cracks can appear as the clay dries, we will just patch those as we wish its no worry. We did everything in the order it has been done for hundreds of years, seems to work well for what it is. Not sure I understand about the guillotine…lost in translation perhaps.
Lindo trabalho Parabens sucesso pra vc
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When lime plastering I've never added fiber but always use some proportion of clay to supposedly help the transition from the clay in the wall to the lime of the plaster. I guess this is unnecessary?
Beautiful videos! Thank you:)
+MrRobinbonine I jus followed what recipes I could find online, Ive not heard of the clay, might try that next time!
Looking good! Thank you.
Keep it up Your nearly there...
Bravo bravo Bravo 🤝
Gorgeous! What's Charles up to these days? Is he not an outdoor cat? That dog sure isn't.
Forgive me if this has been asked before, but why not oak shakes for the roof?
time, money, practicality, lack of huge old trees needed for shingles
Hi. Beautiful home. Make yourself a mixer to the plaster. This is a grace like yours. You need to cut the measure. The frame will come out and it is very easy to mix the mortar with this frame. Greetings.
C'est superbe !
Mister Chickadee - I love your studio but I wondering why you didn't use traditional shingles or slate for the roof which would have been more in-keeping perhaps with the ideal of traditional materials and methods that you so brilliantly maintain.
I wrote about this in my blog, basically, large quality oaks needed for shingles are expensive and hard to come by around here, (they go to the sawmill or whiskey barrel factory) and you have to kill a 200 year old tree to make 60 year shingles…slate is cool, but again, I could not find it here anywhere, I think its mined in Vermont…metal was cheap and will last forever practically...
Mr. Chickadee....there is a slate mine (I've been to it) in eastern part of Polk County, AR, near Big Fork on USFS land (about 4 miles south? of Hwy 8). I don't know if anyone has a claim on it at this time. Something for the future...new home?
I'm a self taught sculptor... are you self taught? Just so relaxing to watch you create.. I subbed you
Yes, I read books by roy under hill then practiced a lot.
Now you teach us... Wish I'd of taken up this art at a younger age.. Thank you
HA! NO shit? The Woodwright's Shop is my favorite PBS show. Everything by hand, no electric. Has a plane for everything lol.
I saw part1-3, It's bacically same tradititonal Japanese wallbuild method.The different is only wattle ,We use also reed or bamboo.What kind of tree you using these wattle ?
+noboru You're being too humble, Ive researched Japanese wattle and daub, its much more complex and beautiful, and I believe has better insulation. Japanese timber framing as well is much more highly evolved, I bow to all the Japanese techniques.
For your question, our wattle was waste pieces of wood the local sawmill throws away after they trim boards. Its a mixture of Oak and Tulip poplar.
Thanks for the comment!
+Mr. Chickadee Thanks, Because there is a lot of earthquake in japan ,and moist wheather in early summer ,tyhoons.I think these tecniques were need to protect from these adverce conditions ,timbers rotten easy ,but must keep long time as possible .And in addition to previous ,In some cathles , mixing dried stalk of taro or sweet ptato stalk into the wall .These make wall more strong ,and ,when surrounded by enemy for a long time, brake some part of wall, take these stalks ,boil and eat.that ,so they surpass the hunger, and shoot arrows or guns from this holes. If when i build a cathle, add the walnuts ,its more high calorie than stalk.And fihgt against inveders from space. (''ω'')ノ
+noboru How interesting! Thank you for the history lesson.
There seems to be a difference between 2:23-2:27 in the colour and texture of your mix?
THANKSGIVING
well done
+John Simon Thanks!
In what kind of climate is this? What was your reason for choosing wattle and daub over cob? Thanks!
Eastern KY zone 5? We wanted a timber frame structure and like wattle and daub more than cob.
@@MrChickadee you wrote about learning lessons regarding proper insulation in your designs, and then a Larsen truss. Would a possible fix for the problem be adding straw bales to the interior to increase the R value? I understand it would take up valuable space.
@@LitoGeorge Straw bales can have issues, Id go with light clay straw still inside a wall truss if natural insulation is desired, or sheep wool batts, or recycled denim batts or roxul batts all inside a larsen truss matrix outside the timber frame walls.
this is way cool what your doing
+grizz270 Thanks!
too poor too paint, and too proud to white wash ( aka lime). I'd be proud of that plastering, despite the old adage. It looks just like easy sand, though i've never mixed easy sand in a barrow. I see perhaps a stove pipe sticking out the side. Is your masonry heater burning your wood gas and carbon particulates like a rocket stove? I would hate to see it billow into your hard work.
+youllregretit Nice saying, haven't heard that one. Ive not heard of "easy sand" what is that? We have yet to light our "russian rocket" but yes it will be vented out of the said pipe, and hopefully won't billow into anything! Stay tuned for a video of the stove build soon...
+Mr. Chickadee easy sand is the modern version of plaster used for dry walling. nice. i should look into those stoves. i've never liked the traditional rocket with a barrel, and want to experiment with a brick version. perhaps that's what a russian rocket is. i'll have to look into those. i just thought it was interesting that it vented horizontally, and thought it must be coming out as clean and cool air like some kind of rocket.
Are there any fruit trees growing in the area to replicate and put in an orchard around the workshop ?, wire mesh around the base to protect from rabbits and deers
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Que produto é esse que você colocou primeiro,esse de cor branca?
That would be lime putty
Manila fiber is abacca here in the philippines..
Does it need to be sealed or made waterproof?
Thats what the lime wash in the next vid is for
is it possible to make the white color lime ..saaay...green or even brown.?
add dye of sort but would be costly
You can add ochre, which is essentially different color dirt that has been baked. This has been common practice in Europe for a thousand years or more. The ratio depends on the depth of color one seeks, but is usually ~ 8% or less of the weight of the lime mix used in the preparation. Colors range from yellow to orange to red to brown. I have even seen a pale green, which I believe is sourced in Cyprus. It's all natural. The entire mixture remains non-toxic, has no noxious fumes, and clean-up is with water.
I have used this mixture on interior walls, applying with a trowel, then smoothing out to a glass-like finish as it dries. For a little extra 'patine', you can apply a light coating of wax after it all dries, then buff it. It's a lot of work, and there's a bit of a learning curve to get the application right (e.g., not too thick as that would lead to cracking as it dries). Like most things, it is trial and error. When you get it right, it is enormously satisfying.
In much of Europe, where Medieval structures were built of stone, a lime-sand mixture is used for pointing the spaces between the stones, or putting a complete cover over the stone. When cement was developed, some people began to mix it into the slurry when renovating ancient structures. The buildings, many of which had stood for centuries, began to fall down. They finally realized that the lime mixture was weaker (lower Moh's index) than the stone, so as the building shifted over time, it was the lime pointing that gave way, not the stone itself. With cement, the cement is harder than many of the stones, so when shifting occurred, the stone itself gave. People went back to using the old-style mixture.
The use of cement became popular after WWI. Some have theorized that it all came about because so many of the skilled artisans, who had always used the lime-sand mixture, were casualties of the trenches in the Great War, so their knowledge went to the grave with them. Newcomers thought they were on to something using cement, until the buildings began to fall. Yet another unintended consequence of war.
By the way, isn't there a beautiful purity in Mr. Chickadee's videos and work?
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Hi,
I really enjoyed your videos and was wondering if you could help me.
I am a teacher in a secondary school near Portsmouth and make a maths, science, technology video each week.
In June I will be filming in York about tudor housing.
Would you allow me to use some stills from your videos to show how the wattle and daub construction is completed.
The videos are shown in school and then placed on our RUclips Channel, and I would of course credit you when using the stills.
Many thanks in anticipation.
+Apple Pi Sure that would be fine.Thank you.
I'm guessing that guillotine refers to a shear ( paper cutter ?) to cut the rope.
+kkarllwt perhaps, scissors work well...
creative
+delon Thomas thanks
Mr. Chickadee very creative post hi keep up the good works
I have never thought about using rope .. but when you have slave labor /// ;p and with pink scissors and a poodle with a pink bow .. you have it made. Seriously .. thank you for sharing this .. what part of the country are you building this?
+L Gorman Ha ha hardly slave labor, they are my supervisors…but I do feel fortunate to have such great help. We are in eastern KY.
nvm last question...just saw your next vid
What were you using in your daub? Recipe?
+Kathleen Schallock The daub recipe will depend on your soil makeup, for us, 4 buckets of clay soil, 1 bucket of sand and 1 of straw if I remember correctly.
can use a card scraper to clean up the timber :)
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Sorta like the old horse hair plaster.
+Dixon Peer It is, we just substituted the chopped rope for the horse hair.
+Mr. Chickadee I've thought about using coconut husk fiber. But I'm concerned about rot.
How much warmth is kept in with daub and wattle?
not enough really, maybe for an outbuilding or warm climate in our opinion. The walls would need to be very thick (12" ) or more to really work with just daub and be warm. Light straw clay or straw bales is a better idea for warmth.
Mindy Wolff A tip that I already commented on another video: slip clay straw. You mix straw with a watery clay mud, so that the straw get coated and protected, and then you use that straw as insulation in the timber frame. The walls for this workshop are on the thin side for this, but is they had 5cm more in depth, there would be place for 10cm of that slip clay straw, it would insulate better than daub but don't expect wonders. If your timber framing is 30cm in debt, you could have a wooden grill or how to call it, in both sides. The cavity in between you can fill with loosely packed light straw clay (the less compacted, the better it insulates but the worse the strength, hence I would suggest a wooden grill on both sides), and the exterior expand interior sides can be finished as pleased such as with daub in this case.
Yes, this would have been a much better method of insulation, light straw clay/slip clay straw can also be added into wall trusses attached to the outside of a timber frame, and these can be made any thickness desired for even great levels of insulation.
I am wondering if there is a DIY technique for chopping and shredding the rope strands. What about a chop saw and then throwing the pieces of manila into a tumble dryer to force them apart.
im sure you could rig up something like you mentioned, we dont use power tools so scissors and fingers work well for us.
The old paper cutters work the best for a powerless option
Hi! Do you think this would work on packed straw walls?
BlueGamer Dude probably Yes, just make sure it is completely hardened
Boa tarde. Poderia o senhor dá-me instruções sobre a argamassa. Quais os produtos que foram mistura. Thanks.
Bom dia amigo,
a mistura é feita do que os anglófonos chamam de "lime putty" (uma mistura preparada de cal virgem + água) e areia - na proporção de 1:2 ou 1:3 para prevenir rachaduras.
Ele adicionou também fibras de corda de cânhamo (pode ser feito também com fibras de sisal).
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this shows, with enough patieants you could do aynthing
+Arnold Espenberg very true!
What the ... after all the really great craftsmanship I see a metal roof on the structure??? whats going on here...
If you look at the season, it's fall; I'm sure he needed to make sure he had time to finish the walls because making a cedar chip roof is extremely time consuming even using all modern tools
you both need to stop talking so much ;)
+directorgtr ;)
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Anybody else get anxiety watching him move so slow
Learn to relax and enjoy life friend, it may help in many ways!
@@MrChickadee and how can a man work all day from dawn to dusk full speed. This is why when i worked with my grandpa he would say boy working like that you wont make it to lunch lol
You are the one sitting on your posterior, nibbling a munchie, gulping a soda and imagining a hard worker work on fast forward because you can watch the next video youtube pushes on your face. Slow Claps my friend.
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Watching Mr Chickadee, and the Mrs. work is most relaxing for me. Can’t say thank you enough for the pleasure of watching his videos.