Yeah, would love to see a shortbow tutorial on that, like do you need to have the jump spots memorized? Also how do you even jump during/before bow 5? Doesn't work for me :/ Does it help with extending the 5's range or is it just used to look flashy? So many questions :D
@@Veienn You get "no valid path to target" errors if there is no walkable, connected path from your current position to the aimed spot. There are exceptions in both ways (some work where you would expect them not to and some don't work where one would think it would), and those you pretty much just gotta figure out by playing. As for the jumping: After you released your 5 key, your character starts the animation of firing the arrow instead of doing so immediately. During that time, you can jump. And if you do so, you shoot the ground from a higher angle, meaning the projectile is less likely to get obstructed. Especially if there are props nearby or you move up/down a stair/slope. Just don't hop onto any object, or you risk getting an affore mentioned unvalid pathing error.
Hello Vallu, I watch your easy to build video and your other pvp videos and it helps me alot. I love playing dual dagger condi core theif. I replace roll for initiative for caltrops and it was tons of fun and did win some ranked games. I even try signet power core necro and surprisingly it has very tanky and melee range play style. I thought necro daggers suck but I was wrong and can help u survive in close matches.
Mindblown that you can just release mouse and press 1. Great video as always, looking forward to another D/D vid! S/D always looks like a blast when I watch you but I have too much fun with the d/d 2 ability.
Hey vallun, recently ive been playing thief for quite a bit but i felt that my teamfight presence is quite weak. I usually just get pressured out by aoes, especially those from scourge, and cannot really provide anything for my team other than staying on shortbow. When i 1v1 i also lose to most condi classes, and the only thing i could really do is to run around the map to look for decaps. Is there anything u suggest me to improve on or some tips for this situation?
If youre playing D/P thief look for spikes and plus ones not 1v1 or teamfights. The balance is just this way such that thief loses out in teamfights and extended skirmishes. D/P Thief biggest advantage rn is interrupting key skills with steal and pistol 4. In teamfights camp shortbow until you see an opening to burst or pressure someone.
i've been playing condi sb core thief lately and it's pretty crazy atm. surprising amount of bursts too even without bursting cluster. it's kinda like being that one spider that throws its web at its prey.
With such low hp and defence all we can do is run away and get out of combat. The bread and butter on thief especially after ANET destroyed my stand and destroy sword/pistol thief. feels bad man
I know im a little late to this party but ive been interested in playing this build. I understand the playstyle but it just seems that S/D hit like a wet noodle. I never feel like im contributing anything. Also seems like the immob from S2 never actually immobilizes anything that would even allow my wet noodle damage
Ok one question: idk how good/Bad the enemy is but how/why don't you just get cced and insta popped? You stayed So long on your targets but no 1 was focusing you.
letting go of mouse means that when i press my skill it will go to where the player is rather than if i hold my right mouse button it will go where im facing
Jesus, what a comeback. Awesome match
Yes please! S/D thief is my favorite build but barely anyone covers it these days. Thanks for this.
I must be playing a different game cuz whenever I shortbow 5 it's just spitting "no valid path" lol
Yeah, would love to see a shortbow tutorial on that, like do you need to have the jump spots memorized? Also how do you even jump during/before bow 5? Doesn't work for me :/ Does it help with extending the 5's range or is it just used to look flashy? So many questions :D
@@Veienn You get "no valid path to target" errors if there is no walkable, connected path from your current position to the aimed spot. There are exceptions in both ways (some work where you would expect them not to and some don't work where one would think it would), and those you pretty much just gotta figure out by playing.
As for the jumping: After you released your 5 key, your character starts the animation of firing the arrow instead of doing so immediately. During that time, you can jump. And if you do so, you shoot the ground from a higher angle, meaning the projectile is less likely to get obstructed. Especially if there are props nearby or you move up/down a stair/slope. Just don't hop onto any object, or you risk getting an affore mentioned unvalid pathing error.
Love all of your PvP gameplay and commentary vids! Keep em coming!
What a nice match! In my gold matchups people just quit after the first minute if they're losing.
and in silver where i am they just fcked the channel blaming the other and do nothing
Ayyy, finally!
what a comeback, nice!!
Hello Vallu, I watch your easy to build video and your other pvp videos and it helps me alot. I love playing dual dagger condi core theif. I replace roll for initiative for caltrops and it was tons of fun and did win some ranked games. I even try signet power core necro and surprisingly it has very tanky and melee range play style. I thought necro daggers suck but I was wrong and can help u survive in close matches.
Nice! Gotta love your PvP Commentary Videos
Mindblown that you can just release mouse and press 1. Great video as always, looking forward to another D/D vid! S/D always looks like a blast when I watch you but I have too much fun with the d/d 2 ability.
That victory was epic
You mentioned a couple times you let go of your mouse - can you explain what this does? Does your char auto track enemy?
yes if i hold my mouse button down i go to where my character is facing, but if i let go, my skills go to where the target is
Reckon you could do any fun staff thief stuff that doesn't overly rely on staff 5 and dodge damage?
Hey vallun, recently ive been playing thief for quite a bit but i felt that my teamfight presence is quite weak. I usually just get pressured out by aoes, especially those from scourge, and cannot really provide anything for my team other than staying on shortbow. When i 1v1 i also lose to most condi classes, and the only thing i could really do is to run around the map to look for decaps. Is there anything u suggest me to improve on or some tips for this situation?
If youre playing D/P thief look for spikes and plus ones not 1v1 or teamfights. The balance is just this way such that thief loses out in teamfights and extended skirmishes. D/P Thief biggest advantage rn is interrupting key skills with steal and pistol 4. In teamfights camp shortbow until you see an opening to burst or pressure someone.
@@ProperCh Thanks for the useful advice !
i've been playing condi sb core thief lately and it's pretty crazy atm.
surprising amount of bursts too even without bursting cluster.
it's kinda like being that one spider that throws its web at its prey.
I dig the gameplay.
Anyone know the song used in the outro?
"I get randomly hit by some AoEs and I'm *really* pressured."
#justthiefthings
With such low hp and defence all we can do is run away and get out of combat. The bread and butter on thief especially after ANET destroyed my stand and destroy sword/pistol thief. feels bad man
Amazing content! I Learnt a lot from this vid!
Amazing video! How do you Withdraw forward? It doesn't look to be the "about face" bind being used because the camera doesn't turn
look at my video called how to roll forward
@@Vallun Oh! Tremendous quality content you have going. Appreciate your work! Thanks for the quick reply
I know im a little late to this party but ive been interested in playing this build. I understand the playstyle but it just seems that S/D hit like a wet noodle. I never feel like im contributing anything. Also seems like the immob from S2 never actually immobilizes anything that would even allow my wet noodle damage
Ok one question: idk how good/Bad the enemy is but how/why don't you just get cced and insta popped? You stayed So long on your targets but no 1 was focusing you.
I really enjoyed this video, thanks.
Good stuff my man
S/D is great on DE (quickness, boonrip , evasions + safety port for rifle swap and final "boom" ) :)
y for maybe wvw or pve,for pvp or decent gvg DE is just dead
No intention to be a killjoy, but there was no real comeback. The red thief had a DX11 crash and couldnt reconnect for a minute. Good game tho.
yea i was wondering that too, saw they reconnected back at the end, unfortunate for them since i felt we had no business winning that
do you have a D/P buikld?
yes check out all the builds on guildjen.com
Let go of my mouse, what do you mean?
That was a fun match...
please show details next time. great vid btw
let go of my mouse? what do you mean... just not using any skills but auto... right? :)
letting go of mouse means that when i press my skill it will go to where the player is rather than if i hold my right mouse button it will go where im facing
Fifth.!!