Eighth Grade: Bo Burnham in Conversation with Teen Vogue’s Lauren Duca
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- Following 13-year-old Kayla’s (Elsie Fisher) final week of middle school in contemporary suburban America, Eighth Grade charts the hilarious highs and heartbreaking lows of adolescence with agonizingly funny honesty and humor.
Join Burnham with Teen Vogue's Lauren Duca to hear how this 27-year-old star made the rapid transition from teen RUclips sensation to in-demand comic to filmmaker - and why he’s revisiting the traumas of middle school in his first big-screen outing.
Recorded on July 22, 2018 at 92nd Street Y.
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the amount of times bo has to interrupt the audience’s laughter with “no really”, “this is not a joke”, “truly i’m not kidding” is insane. it makes so much sense when he talks about the dread he gets from being a comedian. no wonder, when he’s so incredibly intelligent and constantly has to clarify that he’s not joking. how exhausting.
right when he was talking about trump using the same tactics as comedian's people laughed like trump's entire presidency did not feel like watching a bad comedy show.
Right, but sometimes it's also funny. I was at times put off but his "no seriously" responses. Like, we get that you are being serious, and that it's a serious topic, but it's also funny. Sorta annoying at times, just let people laugh
When his voice gets that finger-guns-"I'm-Bo-Yo" twinge to it, everyone laughs. It's his curse.
I think that’s the curse of commentary on today’s society in general. We’re in a shitty and stupid place right now. Yes, it’s serious and he’s serious, but it’s also funny. Lots of people hear it, laugh, but understand that it’s serious and ridiculous while others hear it, laugh but don’t understand which is why he’s saying that he’s serious.
"Funny man must speak funny. Me must laugh" - Unilaterally thinking societal masses
"Look at the world you made for these kids to look up at. No wonder they're burying their head in the sand."
When that came on it just hit me like a fucking truck
@@chadbodie6018 nobody does care chad, it's all good dude
Quote of the generation.
I was playing Pokemon Go, doing some raids with a group of friends, and some a-hole hippie drove up and shouted "there's a world outside your phones, you know!" And I, a grown-ass man in my forties, replied very calmly, "yeah, but it sucks," and everyone in my group reacted like I was Supa Hot Fire. I will happily take that memory to my grave.
truly
I love how everytime after Bo goes on a rant he just is like✌😀
I DO THAT WHEN IM IN THERAPY AND SHE JUST LOOKS AT ME LIEK 😟
@@isabellegould1700 therapists aren't the most jolly folk naturally... 🤷♂️ at least that's what I tell myself
FOR REALL LMAO I LOVE IT
@@maurice8180 idk im new to the whole therapy scene but mine purposefully tells me not to laugh just so i burst out into laughter. and then we philosophize or i cry. its better than an overarching sense of dread if he were to enforce some intense seriousness, though.
I've been a fan of Bo since high school and I truly believe he is one of the few people of his age, gender, and fame that actually listens to young women instead of using them for comedic fodder. Never felt so understood by a grown ass man.
(a year late, oh well) same. i’m a 13 year old girl, and while i understand that i’m young and naive, i don’t think i should do always feel the need to apologize for it or laugh about it. it’s nice to be taken seriously for once :)
I bet you're a Narcissistic Sociopath.
@@TheKitchenerLeslie wtf lol.
@@prachiarora6245 Lauren Duca is batshit crazy
@@TheKitchenerLeslie what does that have to do with anything
I'm only half way through this interview, but oh my god this woman knows what she's doing. She's asking all the right questions, and really just bringing more out of Bo. Bo is very deep and she's encouraging him to go deeper, which a lot of interviewers shy away from in fear of getting lost in the nuances and losing the flow. But, she delved right in and indulged him.
I think what I love most is that she does all of that without losing the flow. She hasn't missed a beat so far. Honestly, Lauren Duca you only have up to go from here.
Absolutely.
Go check out her interview with tucker Carlson or Ben Shapiro😂
I don't think most interviewers would fear loss of flow with someone like No. I think most interviewers fear loss of control. They tend to like to dominate and control the "flow". And for many, its literally their job to stick to the cards and only ask specific questions in a specific order just as rehearsed. I agree, a breath of authenticity is extremely refreshing. I mean, seriously, how hard is it to take a genuine interest in someone like Bo? You couldn't pay me enough not to
Also having an hour to actually discuss things as opposed to a morning talk show, it helps. Not to take anything away from her she’s great.
She's fantastic. Seems like she finds questions (and formulates them) in a way that resonate with Bo, which I've rarely seen other interviewers/hosts do.
This interviewer is excellent. She asks good questions and moderates the conversation with a lot of grace
she doesn't repeat the question for the audience though. Would have been nice to be able to hear what Bo was answering.
This woman is a moron who can't chew gum and walk at the same time
@@danafranklin3751 What the fuck...? Are you okay?
Dude get fucked
My thoughts exactly on the interviewer. She was excellent.
Bo keeping actors Elsie and Jake separate until filming to capture their charming nervous chemistry, in the moment, is so real, magical and genius.
After watching Inside, it is interesting to see how many ideas from this interview made it into that special
wow true
agreed
This, as well as H3H3's podcast with Bo. Both of these pieces were so tied to Inside, I can't tell if Inside is just more of what he's always thought about, or if he was already thinking about ideas at this point.
@@coleG112 Yesssss, it’s clear he was already thinking up ideas for something
@@rclovr08 I think it’s both, after thinking more. A lot of Bo’s songs are just telling the same joke just more sad this time. “Funny Feeling” is just Sad, which is just Ironic. But each time, it gets more sad, more real, more raw. And the context is totally different. So I think a lot of these things are just constant burdens on his heart, but at the same time I think he’s always thinking of the way he’s going to talk about any given subject the next time he’s asked
Thank you, Interviewer, for actually letting him talk!
YESSS! THANK GOD
I've probably watched a dozen press interviews that Bo has given to promote this movie, but this one is really different from the rest. Great stuff.
29:01 "Who you wish to be is probably a more beautiful and vulnerable truth than who you fear you might be. People are way quicker nowadays to admit their fears than their hopes."
Fears are much more realistic than hopes nowadays
I guess its because admitting your hopes puts pressure on that person and also because of the capitalist system we live in failure seems like a bigger fear among the population.
The Amount of peace signs is so fucking funny. Just think about it . Bo is this very large 6’5” man. He just ranted for 20 minutes about his views in politics and society and anxiety and is just so fucking intelligent and respectful and he just tops it all off with a; 😀✌️
I love how he is not afraid to get angry or have the audience be uncomfortable
I love this interviewer. It feels like she has certain topics she wants to cover and certain notes and key things but not set questions. It’s a conversation that is happening and she is guiding it not forcing it and that’s a rare thing. Thank you so much for that and for letting bo talk because the man is a genius
I LOVE that he admits he can’t answer some questions, but still tries to give some of his ideas on the topics. He’s amazing
i love listening to Bo talk, his perspective is so interesting
Bo in this interview: talks about the difficulties of describing and satirizing the internet
Bo in Inside: Goes on to write one of the best pieces describing and satirizing the internet
Bo is so empathic and insightful. I have debilitating anxiety and depression and I don't talk about it to anyone. It's hard when the ones I have tried to open up to use my pain as entertainment. Judgement, ridicule and gossip are adrenaline rushes for some people. I guess I need an anonymous support group because feeling alone and misunderstood is a living avalanche
Hey! I hear you and I have made similar experiences (anxiety and depression). I bet you could write about it pretty well, since you've described your situation like this: "feeling alone and misunderstood is a living avalanche" and I don't know how old you are, but I didn't sound that smart until.... probably ever. :)
I wished I could give you some great life advice, but I won't, because I can't, because I haven't figured it out. But this movie made me feel as if, the reason why some of us are depressed, is because we are more sensitive, care more, take in more, think more, feel more, hope more, dream more, expect more, want more, worry more, etc. We just need to figure out a way to turn it into something that isn't self-destructive, but rather informative and useful... some sort of life-toolkit.
@@valhalla1240 Thank you for your kind words. I agree, I feel being more caring, sensitive and intuitive puts your brain into anxiety overdrive. I feel everything too much. I need to harness/tame those positive attributes into a creative external outlet so I don't implode and completely isolate myself. It's difficult. Isolation can feel so safe and comforting, but is not a good coping mechanism
My mom used to always say to me, "You're just too sensitive. Too sensitive." Finally, at about 50 I said to her, "Well, maybe you aren't sensitive enough." I think we are just put together the way we are and finding ways to live as WE ARE is one of life's challenges. Yes, I am insightful. Yes, I am the one to pick up things at meetings (tone, buried anger) that other people miss. But, the depression and worry and over-stimulation goes with that. Sometimes I need to be alone. Sometimes I need to reach out to people. But, I think we need to stand on our own inner reality of those things and not let the positive, perky people tell us who WE need to be. There really are a lot of us, and quite frankly, I think we make excellent friends and valuable co-workers. Actually, my best friend of over 50 years is positive and perky. A lot of it is an act and it is a valuable act, but she does not dismiss who I am either. Love to you.
@@parkviewmo Yes, I completely agree. I have family who make me feel less than as well. They dismiss what they don't see or understand. Being intuitive/insightful, I can predict people's behavior far in advance. I'm not being negative, I just see things, while it seems most others simultaneously look down on intuitive people whilst sticking their heads in the sand. It is frustrating how callous people decide they're right and question who you are!
Well, it has been two years, hope u r doing better or kinda sortted smth out. It can be tought but your feelings are valid.
I saw his movie when I was a freshman in high school, so I was fresh out of middle school when I saw it, and I remember thinking, “he hit EVERY nail right on its head.” It’s really impressive how accurate it was, especially the element that there is not one single kid in middle school who has themselves figured out.
“The antidote to all this shit is long form conversation.” Thank God for Bo Burnham. Great questions.
Yes! Exactly! That need for long-form conversations is the exact reason Joe Rogan is SO POPULAR!
Bo saying that he doesn’t feel like he is better than people enough to give an answer of how someone else should deal with something like anxiety is one of many reasons he is brilliant
Really appreciate how humble and respectful he is towards young women and our experiences. Usually comedians, even women comedians, degrade the “teenage girl” trope. This is unexpectedly healing for me. Mahalo.
“Who you wish to be, is actually probably a more beautiful and vulnerable truth than who you fear you might be”. God damn
38:40 I ADORE how he addressed how the people who connect to his message the most, or at least the most prominently, are 14 year old girls. when I was 14 my favorite comedian was him (still is lmao) because of how deeply I connected to what he was saying and how, not only was he hilarious, but I felt seen when watching his specials. the fact that young girls sharing his experience with anxiety and other things he spoke about in his specials is what drove him to make eighth grade is something special
this movie is the epitome of art being raw and authentic to evoke a conversation instead of trying to prove a point in a conversation
“Hungry Hungry Hypocrite...”
Damn it Bo
i've never seen bo so worked up before, 43:32 everyone should watch from there on out. i found his rant both elegant and hilarious
I'm not a Trump fan but its weird that Bo didnt say one bad thing about Obama in 8 years but according to him America went to shit the day Trump got elected.Seems intellectually dishonest.
@@xe666 I mean, Obama was a politician. Trump was a TV show host. That's how I saw his incredulity
A Passing Soul well bo is also a comedian and maybe if the president wasn’t a joke, he wouldn’t be calling him out so much.
@@xe666 I would disagree, because to say that would have to assume that Bo's supposed silence on Obama==approval. Bo has never been a political figure and is always very adamant to emphasize that his point of view is not an authoritative statement, nor should people treat it that way. I think he was super deliberate in not saying anything about Trump's actual policies (like even an idiot can make good policies if guided correctly), and was more judging on Trump's character. There are probably plenty of politicians who have the stances that Trump has; why pick that piece of shit?
That's my interpretation
@@xe666 Obama was terrible, but Trump was a filo-facist racists misogynistic monster
"we're all hearts in chests and brains in heads"
45:29
I love how every time he says something serious and people laugh he just says “truly truly truly”
“ no wonder kids have their heads in their phones, the world is awful right now, who wants to look at that”
Damn. Yes!
29:24
She’s a great interviewer
I've been watching bo ever since I was in middle school and I always, always knew his jokes were witty and that he was insanely smart, but this is incredible to watch. I've obviously seen his brain's work in his comedy specials but his ability to delve so deeply into the human experience is amazing and I could listen to him talk for hours on end.
it must be so hard for him when he's talking seriously and deeply about and issue and suddenly he makes a certain comment and people start laughing as if it was part of a long term joke. He speaks such truth and it's a pleasure as well as an immense enlightenment to hear him speak.
“‘hard shell or soft.’ Youve got the part”
I just love him so much. He is so insightful, real, caring, and a total stud. I hope he sees his inner peace one day, if he has not seen it yet. This world needs more people like Bo.
28:10 he basically summarized Baudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation", the book that cast and crew members were forced to read when filming "The Matrix"
I immediately thought the same thing and searched for a simulacra and simulation comment lol
Watching the end of this and knowing Donald Trump has been banned off of twitter is a balm on my soul.
satisfaction at its finest
Sure it’s funny, but it‘s also weird that a corporation can make that decision.
@@seanmatthewking it's actually completely normal. pubs/restaurants can ban individuals if they act in a way that the owner/manager deems inappropriate, so why should it be any different for other businesses or companies?
@@seanmatthewking he broke the rules countless times, thats why he was banned, not just cuz he was a controversial figure lmao
@@seanmatthewking it was totally overdue, plus he was a danger to the world without exaggeration. But I agree, those corporations have far too much power. The comparison with a private restaurant owner above falls flat
I’m trying to hear the questions so my speakers against my ear and all I hear is the questions and bo going “MM”
Rewatching this after seeing his at-home Netflix special. The exchange he has with that girl in the audience, then having to clarify to the audience that certain things are not laughable, was a great reminder that he is as much a performance artist as a comedian. He is challenging his audience to think and reflect.
BEST BO INTERVIEW NICE TO SEE HIM SERIOUS
29:28 This gave me chills.
Holy shit.
From 11:14 - 11:22 you hear Bo saying how he would satirize the internet....and that's exactly his song "welcome to the internet"... he even says it would have to be fast paced. And the song is definitely 'on the internets terms', as he put it, considering the song is from the perspective of the internet.
yes! Thanks for your comment! I've been looking up his old interviews and other specials and you can see how he developed some of the notions that were later synthesized with Inside.
Here he also sort of apologizes for being the one who gets to talk about social issues that not necessarily need to hear from another white male... which is one of the critics punctuated in "Comedy".
I’m really glad that an interesting, intelligent, complex person was necessarily behind all the outrageousness of his specials. It was a fine line between a sociopath and an empathetic genius LOL
Those specials could only have come from the mind of someone with both elevated intellectual and emotional intelligence.
@@eme.261 That's 110 percent true!! What are your views on inside?
@@ironicinorironic. - I found it to be shockingly brilliant. Such incisive vulnerability coupled with sheer artistic genius goes well beyond a special meant for entertainment purposes.
It's almost unfair that Bo's work is judged within the same metric as his contemporaries' offerings. He's so far beyond what they've demonstrated they're capable of producing artistically, as well as the reactions engendered within the hearts and minds of the masses that Bo can, currently, only be measured against himself.
bo doing a peace sign after saying "Look at the world you made for these kids to look up at. No wonder they're burying their head in the sand." gives disaster bi energy and i love it
I never really watch like longer interviews and stuff, cause well *attention span* am I right. But I could just listen to Bo talk all day long
i have watched like three hour-long interviews bc he is so articulate and insightful it rlly gets ur attention
I have never ever felt so understood by anyone let alone a grown man 14 years older than me
Same same
The peace sign after ever rant is freaking great
Interesting to see how some of these conversation points are also reflected in the new special - feels very insightful to hear Bo explain his thoughts on the topics and then see how he funneled that into his phenominal creativity
I love how in the movie he doesn’t “make fun” of anyone. Kayla is genuine, and yeah she’s a bit cringey but the movie doesn’t frame her in a way to make a joke out of it. And it doesn’t get put onto the teenage boys to relieve the discomfort, he points out the terrible shit in both (Kendra? Kendice? Whoever, compared to Kayla, Aiden compared to gabe)
He doesn’t allow the audience to dissociate from them by making fun of them. He shows them as people
Idk where this rant went lolll
This is the best interview with Bo Burnham I've seen so far
“We’re having a national conversation by throwing fortune cookies at each other.”
He is one smart dude and he answered every question with so much depth and understanding. He made a great movie!
I may not agree with every single thing Bo says but boy do I love listening to people speak on things they're passionate about
Where do you disagree with him? 🙈
@@maurice8180 probably politics, just a guess tho
I LOVE how he always asks first if he can swear . One respectful fucken boi.
This interviewer is on point. Love it! Very refreshing to hear this conversation, both are very involved and aware. Nicely done.
Interviewer is amazing at her job, and never says anything dumb. Gold.
Really, really good interviewer! Wow, not a lot of people can ride with Bo and get him to be real and funny and support him. Good work!!
The Enya segment (19:56) is hilarious
I love this man! He is so insightful. I feel so much like he does about November, 2016. "The antidote for him [DJT] is not better tweets it's long form conversation." I agree with Don Williams. This may be the best Bo Burnham interview.
also, what I love about Bo is that he has thoughts that all of us have, he has a similar experience with anxiety that other people have, but he's SO GOOD at expressing his thoughts and articulating what he has to say that he makes us want to listen to him. kind of like how he said writing 8th grade, he didn't want to over wrote the kids speech and make them over articulate because 8th graders aren't articulate at all, but it would've been easy for him to because of how articulate he is
I love his willingness to answer the questions. I love the great questions surrounding mental health. And her as an interviewer was spectacular. She was just as deep as he was and concisely summarized what was being said.
Bo burnham deserves the world
The world doesn't deserve Bo Burnham
49:00 - 49:40 the entire Internet needs to hear this sentiment. So fucking well said
At the same time, Duca announced on Twitter that she was getting divorced from her husband. Who cares? Why would she do that? It’s her business. Using social media to announce a divorce is as Bo described our use of the platform “crazy”!
their chemistry is amazing! she’s so intelligent and such a great interviewer and bo’s complex thoughts being given the perfect questions is just so fantastic to watch
he is legitimately a genius
Such a great interview. Bo's insights on the Human Experience are so wonderful. Love it when he talks about the internet because it is indeed all-pervasive! It's not just a wifi lmao, it's like enmeshed with our lives, fused together. ALSO, THE CANDLE AND PHONE ANALOGY WAS AMAZING. Kudos to the interviewer too, she asked the right questions and nudged him when necessary! An hour spent well.
This has got to be one of my favorite bo interviews. He's so interesting to listen to, the conversations are always though provoking, he's so smart and well spoken
At 20 mins I didn't understand why the comments were so positive, but at minute 50, I'm in aww. Well done 👏👏👏
Watching a lot of his older interviews after Inside, have to say this is one of the more thoughtful and well done interviews.
Same. I feel like it covers so many topics it’s a good “intro to bo” interview too.
Totally, the best I found so far. Only wish there were more like these.
Personally I'd prefer internal success and victory, but I love extroverts so I get why he said it like that. We don't all value the same things and it'd be a real boring life imo if we did. I love you Bo. Sharper every year. Looking forward to his future works/words.
For those of you talking about how deep Bo is watch his stand up... it’s beautiful, introspective, deep, funny, scary, tear jerking, etc
What are your thoughts on inside and the outtakes? I'm just soooo curious cause everybody has comprehended the special very differently according to their specific experience..
And inside is like Bo's complete life projected in a hour.
I'd love to hear what are your views on the special.
Someone please give this man a podcast.
This whole interview from top to bottom has substantial cultural significance, foretelling the wave and breakthroughs of mental health happening during times of covid and beyond, and a snapshot of his IQ and artistry at that moment in time
idk how many times I've watched this but bo is so passionate talking ab things he cares about. i love it sm bc it's so cool hearing ppl talk on their own instead of a company giving them boundaries. or at least that's what it seems to me :]
"Who you wish to be is actually more beautiful and vulnerable truth than who you fear you might be" ... thanks for that! That was a sudden hit in the head, but I needed it...
i would give my life to protect this interviewer and her laugh
This is such a good interview on both sides!!
I love this interviewer, she's very genuine and asks wonderfully insightful questions. Very refreshing.
It makes me so happy Bo got to speak to her ability [Elsie Fisher], and in this way, in this interview; however, there could be other interviews where he’s spoken to it, and I just haven’t found them. On the front of Elsie Fisher?
Elsie Fisher’s performance in this made me think of of how great Bryan Cranston is able taking you on an entire emotional journey by covering parts of his face with his hands, then gradually revealing more and more to us.
There’s no need for him to monologue: he literally shows it all to us.
He’ll have a chain of reactions with the top of his face, loosen his grip and his expression starts to remould and his body language starts to shift.. and I could keep going or you could see it for yourself:
“Breaking Bad scene Jane Dies.” Setup with minimal spoilers: the girl in it isn’t evil, she’s troubled, and is now helping a guy down an even worse path than he’d already put himself on.
It’s two people slipping together, hand in hand, yet neither of them meant to do that, and neither person is evil (as it’s more complicated and more nuanced than that). So:
In that? Bryan Cranston does EXACTLY what I’m talking about. And, Elsie Fisher is the first actor I’ve seen capable of doing that since Bryan Cranston. Like Bo said she wasn’t working off archetypes, or what anything was, “supposed,” to be like. She was able to live in the skin. We’ll all be talking about her from here forward 👏 kick ass job Elsie and kick ass job to Bo for honing in on that, and really testing for it (I think he said she had like 7 call backs? Yeah 🙌🤝).
I watched 8th grade in 9th grade and bo all I felt was recognized and that’s all I needed from it
28:05 that's some true baudrillard level shit
As he talks about the mediums not helping in the complete articulation of each human, he gets cut short by stage time.
Gotta love it.
Isn’t that I R O N I C
OMG the interviewer rocks! One of the best I've seen.
they're both so articulate and work really well together.
20:10
I'm dying I love the interviewer and Bo
lauren is an amazing interviewer! you can tell bo respects her
He's got Mr. Rogers vibes with that outfit. Lol. I love you, Bo. Inside was a masterpiece and basically this whole interview in a Netflix special. Lol
I feel like I'm stuck in an ejector seat and it's spinning out of control, this video is my parachute, it's like I can catch my breath, like I'm not alone.
That's beautiful. I hope, six months later, you're okay. At least physically. Hang in there, you're not alone.
10:18
Nobody:
Bo: #chalupa *dabs*
''Be the kid''. Method acting is hardcore. Depp's apparently said in interviews he sometimes has lasting effects on his personality or attitude. I'm paraphrasing.
this duo is AMAZING she's asking deep and meaningful questions and he's giving deep and meaningful answers
His mental breakdown about our current state of politics and the medium vs. medium aspects of things really got me. That's how I've felt since 2015 when all of this started and, idk, it's nice to see that there are more people like me out there who are just as fed up and just as confused by all of this. I watched this when it came out and needed to watch it again in 2021 and it's just as relevant (which in retrospect is kind of sad). These intelligent conversations are incredible and I love them.
48:21 THIS!!!!
The interview was very good. Both people brought their best to the conversation.
I just added this to all of my playlists
I may not agree with all of what Bo thinks but dang hes an amazingly nice guy. Respectful and wants good in the world. Funny. God bless him.
i noticed at around 33:28 he does a stim where he like, touches the space between his fingers, and it doesnt really matter but i think its neat that i also do that sometimes :)
"The medium is the message" M.M
She's so intelligent and asks very good questions.
This interview is making me want to read her (Lauren Duca’s) articles and her book
Bo is so authentic whenever he makes a public appearance. He bears al his truth and I respect that.