I lived in Vienna for a year or so and used to regularly frequent Cafe Central. Stunning building, great cakes, heaps of history. They don't mention Hitler too much in their information pamphlets funnily enough. Great video, really enjoyed it.
Apparently one of the reasons lack of acceptance by the art community, and a harsh critique by a member of the Bauhaus was a major factor in his closing of Bauhaus and other art institutions.
I love the cafe perspective also so much, hoping for more like this one, looming at artists and intellectuals from Istanbul to Paris, fomenting remarkable cultural transformations to help us cope with modern society.
Thank you, Jon Lucas, for providing a succinct view of the remarkably transformative intellectual foment in 1913 from 1890-1915 Vienna. I’m going to check the Simon Empire of channels like Geographics and Biographics to see if you have any others similar to this one for luminaries of European music, literature, art and architecture of the late 1800’s and early 1900’s in Paris and Vienna. Wild times!
Have you thought of doing a video on the top 10 inventions that were seen as failures/disappointments/impractical at the time, but also introduced concepts that later became fairly standard or were the bases of a modern(ish) standard? For example, the Great Eastern and it's double hull which is now standard on large ships. I guess another way to word it is 10 inventions that laid the groundwork for future successes.
I'll never get used to the way English speaking folks pronounce Rothschild. In German it's pronounced more like "rohtshield" (there's no "th" sound in German, "sch" is similar to the English "sh", "i" is pronounced like a short "e")
The cafe was the place to be. Not only Café Central, there are 20 others in Vienna (Griensteidl, Prückl, Sperl....numerous...) . It´s the place where there is a telephone, newspapers and people and friends, who discuss about politics. And you get drinks and food. Plus freedom of speech.
Hitler and Stalin knew each other in Vienna, 1913! Their friendships end up in a very deadly duel due to a conflict of ideologies: the eastern front 1941~1945!
Gustaf Klimpt is my favorite Austrian. Please do a video biography of Michelangelo Caravaggio🙏🙏🙏 He was a genius and had a wild life that I believe your viewers will enjoy learning about.
This is not really the reason, it's an urban legend. Actually the real reason why Trotsky didn't like Stalin is kinda mentioned a few minutes earlier in this video: he noticed that Stalin was an unremarkable, but dangerous man.
Kudos Simon this was a fascinating video. I live for this kind of random info, and besure one day when this comes up as a quiz question I am going to send the credit to you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
The irony being that you need a cosmopolitan society for that to even be possible. I try to make sure my students understand that places like that are very rare in history. A very fragile thing that has to be protected
I like these videos. Especially this one because I live in Vienna. Thank you!! But I have to make a small comment. Franz Ferdinand was the nephew of Franz Josef.
Imagine a world where vienna fell to the ottomans or ghengis khan its an old city that had been through a lot but it never fell if im misteken please let me know but to the best off my knowledge it never fell and a lot off diffrent kingdoms and people tried to take vienna but as it was budded the gateway to europe.... we actually united in defending vienna when we where not killing each other off course
And funnily Stalin also brought Tito into power by having assasinated over a dozen of his components. Tito was known as an avid Stalinist before he betrayed Stalin, which he didn't do because of ideological differences but because he wanted more power for himself.
"Franz Ferdinand saw the weakness in his father's empire." Franz Josef wasn't his father... Simon, you are my favorite youtuber. Come on... You can do better than that.
It can't be a list without Betty white, shes 98 years old I'm pretty sure humans will consider her an important historical figure 100 years down the line
So, when do we get a video on Istanbul? Or is it Constantinople? Or is it Istanbul? I want to know the business of the Turks! *Even Old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say. People just like it better that way!*
Simon you should do an episode on the land disputed in Texas after Mexico defeated the settlers that claimed Texas land that belonged to Mexico at the time.
Great video. Simon at 4 you should have mentioned Frankfurts golden walkway stones with the ingraved dates when the nazi criminals deported jewish families from individual houses.
Bc of your comment I had to Google this. I'd never heard of this project, & also learned some countries are against the idea since your replacing the previous walkwY with memorial stones hence people now walk all over them when the purpose is to memorialize the last free place they were. What do you think about that part? Is it sacreligious to have people walking over the stones or should they be protected in a way that keeps people's feet off of them, & many people find it disrespectful to walk on rhem. What do you think about that part?
@@Rosemarie-RUclips- come here please you will see l, they shine bright and you can only not see them of you a ignorant. A few steps further is the big synagogue under very heavy Police protection. Every body is very welcome Here. Love from Frankfurt, germany
Yes, it was interesting, especially the awful mispronunciations of Daimler and Giacomo (Puccini) Daimler is pronounced Dame-ler and not Dime-her. Giacomo is pronounced Jack-omo Gee-ak-omo.
I think I understand. I notice this aggressive behaviour. When people come to a a great multicultural melting pot in London from minor countries and provincial places, they feel a deep anger and hatred.
I just went down the rabbit hole on why do the English seem to love adding an "Er" Or Ker to words. AmericaKER, Obama'ER, and the end of words. Is this just a blatant disrespect? I notice they don't have a problem with not saying ER to Putin but, when it comes to the US, I know the south USA is special, so do certain English share that in-ability? I'm not trying to be insulting, I just want to understand.
They drop r's where they should be and put in r's where they shouldn't be. There are a few places in the US they do this too. It's weird, since I speak a strongly rhotic US dialect with strong back vowels.
One theory suggests that aberrant intrusive rhoticism, which pervades some of the dialects of anxiously, hopefully aspiring English petite bourgeoisie, is just the understandable (and hardly worthy of mention) result of a widely-spread, nearly pathological fear that one might be wrongly thought to have orally released an irredeemably déclassé glottal stop.
@@jonrolfson1686 You tried too hard to use high English, without saying much of anything. But thanks for participating. You're mastery is impressive. Cheers.
@@Bacopa68 True, Being in Virginia I have found that I can understand dialects from many parts of the US, and the UK, where friends of mine have no clue. I've seen shows with Sub-titles from Scotland and I ask why? I can understand them, but I guess many can't here. My late wife was German, I wonder if they can't understand each other as well, speaking the same language.
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Imagine if Stalin bought one of Hitler's paintings, forgot about it and now it's lying around in some backroom of the Kremlin unnoticed.
If he'd had any sense he would have bought one by Gustav Klimt.
Hitler's skull might be in Kremlin, Putin knew where it is!
So basically if you become a time traveling assassin 1913 Vienna is the place to be.
Yes. All you need is a nuclear time bomb that can wipe out the entire city
This has to be one of the greatest episodes Simon has done
yet still managing to butcher a healthy 3/4ths of the names
I agree I freaking loved it!
@@GutnarmEVE don’t watch
I lived in Vienna for a year or so and used to regularly frequent Cafe Central. Stunning building, great cakes, heaps of history. They don't mention Hitler too much in their information pamphlets funnily enough.
Great video, really enjoyed it.
When your list of important people starts off with Hitler at the bottom, its bound to be an excellent list!
,,, and ends with Stalin?
@@russellfitzpatrick503 seems like they couldn’t wait to say his name tbh lmao
Wow, that Alma doll is kinda creepy
Speak for yourself, mine is great 😁
KINDA???
He said they met in some creepy circumstance? We want details
Adolf Loos, Robert Müsil, Arnold Schönberg, Ludwig Wittgenstein etc etc... you could go on for years on this one. Extraordinary time and place.
Apparently one of the reasons lack of acceptance by the art community, and a harsh critique by a member of the Bauhaus was a major factor in his closing of Bauhaus and other art institutions.
This was a very interesting video. Liked the idea of the cafe as common factor.
I love the cafe perspective also so much, hoping for more like this one, looming at artists and intellectuals from Istanbul to Paris, fomenting remarkable cultural transformations to help us cope with modern society.
Thank you, Jon Lucas, for providing a succinct view of the remarkably transformative intellectual foment in 1913 from 1890-1915 Vienna. I’m going to check the Simon Empire of channels like Geographics and Biographics to see if you have any others similar to this one for luminaries of European music, literature, art and architecture of the late 1800’s and early 1900’s in Paris and Vienna. Wild times!
Have you thought of doing a video on the top 10 inventions that were seen as failures/disappointments/impractical at the time, but also introduced concepts that later became fairly standard or were the bases of a modern(ish) standard? For example, the Great Eastern and it's double hull which is now standard on large ships.
I guess another way to word it is 10 inventions that laid the groundwork for future successes.
Would be difficult and probably would have to focus on one branch but an episode about the Rothschild's would be amazing.
I've been to that café, but I had no idea they had hung out there...
When I was there I had to remind myself not to call it the hitler cafe in front of the waiter.
Quite astounding, like how Hannibal met Scipio in the East at a party and actually had some dialogue.
Small world huh
Just imagine if Stalin and Hitler. Had just bumped into each other?
They bumped at each other about 28 years later. A few people including Hitler died after that bump 😆
I'll never get used to the way English speaking folks pronounce Rothschild. In German it's pronounced more like "rohtshield" (there's no "th" sound in German, "sch" is similar to the English "sh", "i" is pronounced like a short "e")
So Hitler and Stalin may have shared a table together at one point.🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes, in 1913 vienna
The cafe was the place to be. Not only Café Central, there are 20 others in Vienna (Griensteidl, Prückl, Sperl....numerous...) . It´s the place where there is a telephone, newspapers and people and friends, who discuss about politics. And you get drinks and food. Plus freedom of speech.
Is it wrong for part of me to wish a city killer asteroid would have hit Vienna in 1912 the lives it would have saved 🤔 if only
I’m not.
Because there is no guarantee that their actions wouldn’t manifest in another form.
OK, but hold off until 1913 when my father emigrated from Wien to Chicago.
Oh, Vienna
I wonder if anything will happen in Vienna in 2021
Hitler and Stalin knew each other in Vienna, 1913! Their friendships end up in a very deadly duel due to a conflict of ideologies: the eastern front 1941~1945!
That war was planned anyway. And Hitler and Stalin didnt fight, they sacrificed their populations.
Felt like the sixth degrees of Hitler, Stalin, or Trotsky
I loved Vienna. I went around Easter, so the Ostermarkt were a treat. It's a city that deserves a month in my opinion.
Gustaf Klimpt is my favorite Austrian. Please do a video biography of Michelangelo Caravaggio🙏🙏🙏
He was a genius and had a wild life that I believe your viewers will enjoy learning about.
I love watching all your material. I dont have tv but i watch you everyday. Keep it up 😍
I wish you would stagger your primiers so they come out one at a time it's hard to pick which one to watch first
Trotsky didn't like Stalin because Stalin took something Trotsky created and gave him no credit for it? How ironic.
This is not really the reason, it's an urban legend. Actually the real reason why Trotsky didn't like Stalin is kinda mentioned a few minutes earlier in this video: he noticed that Stalin was an unremarkable, but dangerous man.
Kudos Simon this was a fascinating video. I live for this kind of random info, and besure one day when this comes up as a quiz question I am going to send the credit to you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
The irony being that you need a cosmopolitan society for that to even be possible. I try to make sure my students understand that places like that are very rare in history. A very fragile thing that has to be protected
I like these videos. Especially this one because I live in Vienna. Thank you!!
But I have to make a small comment. Franz Ferdinand was the nephew of Franz Josef.
One of the Simon’s best episodes and he has had a lot of great ones. But his beard is starting to get out of control.😀😀😀😀
I bet there was some waiter who was serving all of them.
Imagine a world where vienna fell to the ottomans or ghengis khan its an old city that had been through a lot but it never fell if im misteken please let me know but to the best off my knowledge it never fell and a lot off diffrent kingdoms and people tried to take vienna but as it was budded the gateway to europe.... we actually united in defending vienna when we where not killing each other off course
looking at the city's demographics, the 3rd siege seems to have been a success :p
Naming Alma Mahler without mentioning Tom Lehrer's obiturary tribute is a bit of a missed opportunity.
There's a idea. Top ten musical parody artists other than Weird Al.
Imagine, if you can, a world in which Adolf Hitler is vaguely remembered as a kitschy early 20th century mittel-europäisch ‘Painter of Light.’
Stalin also tried to have Tito assassinated multiple times, albeit unsuccessfully.
And funnily Stalin also brought Tito into power by having assasinated over a dozen of his components. Tito was known as an avid Stalinist before he betrayed Stalin, which he didn't do because of ideological differences but because he wanted more power for himself.
The next video should be Simon's RUclips channels
"Franz Ferdinand saw the weakness in his father's empire." Franz Josef wasn't his father... Simon, you are my favorite youtuber. Come on... You can do better than that.
"Servus" from Vienna!
Radical centrist time traveler: So anyways, I started blasting
It can't be a list without Betty white, shes 98 years old I'm pretty sure humans will consider her an important historical figure 100 years down the line
If the cancel culture pukes don’t “kill” her off.
Not sure why you think that but okay
Today the place is called "The internet".
Which is run by Comrade Zuckerberg
So, when do we get a video on Istanbul? Or is it Constantinople? Or is it Istanbul? I want to know the business of the Turks!
*Even Old New York, was once New Amsterdam. Why they changed it, I can't say. People just like it better that way!*
Byzantium -> Constantinople -> Istanbul.
We'd all like to know why Constantinople got the works but that's nobody's business but the Turks.
The laboratory of the apocalypse
Did they base "friends" off this cafe?
Wow that mashup would be ……… interesting?
Ferdinand was a nephew.
I’m a nephew too. I’m just like him!
Amazing 😻 video
Thank you for mentioning Tito. He is still loved and celebrated here in the Ex-Yugoslav area. He really touched the hearts of the people here.
Redrum...4 all
Simon you should do an episode on the land disputed in Texas after Mexico defeated the settlers that claimed Texas land that belonged to Mexico at the time.
They didn't realize all of them will fight
If someone wanted to go back in time and whisper in a lot of peoples ears, 1913, Vienna would be the spot. I wonder what the devil was doing that year
Great video. Simon at 4 you should have mentioned Frankfurts golden walkway stones with the ingraved dates when the nazi criminals deported jewish families from individual houses.
Bc of your comment I had to Google this. I'd never heard of this project, & also learned some countries are against the idea since your replacing the previous walkwY with memorial stones hence people now walk all over them when the purpose is to memorialize the last free place they were. What do you think about that part? Is it sacreligious to have people walking over the stones or should they be protected in a way that keeps people's feet off of them, & many people find it disrespectful to walk on rhem. What do you think about that part?
@@Rosemarie-RUclips- come here please you will see l, they shine bright and you can only not see them of you a ignorant. A few steps further is the big synagogue under very heavy Police protection. Every body is very welcome Here. Love from Frankfurt, germany
Number of likes when I watch this video- 666
Fitting number for the opening joke.
1913 was also the day the the united states died and the united states of america corporation was born thanks to the creature from Jekyll island.
That seems to be such that a hotspot
Bit vague on the roths...
Stalin and Trotsky: the opposite of love at first sight
I’m pretty sure they had passionate hate sex at least once
I would what city is the modern equivalent
a veritable crossroads
No videos on 2 cent hangovers, when ppl slept on a tight rope standing up
Huh?? I need more info... "Sleeping standing up while on a tightrope" is called a '2 cent hangover' or are these two different things?
Why would it be surprising?
bec oida!
Yes, it was interesting, especially the awful mispronunciations of Daimler and Giacomo (Puccini)
Daimler is pronounced Dame-ler and not Dime-her. Giacomo is pronounced Jack-omo Gee-ak-omo.
Tito was not a dictator. He was a liberator. Learn your history, Simon.
Tell that the people who died in his concentration camps, mainly germans who lived there since the reconquest from the ottomans.
Very interesting 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I think I understand.
I notice this aggressive behaviour.
When people come to a a great multicultural melting pot in London from minor countries and provincial places, they feel a deep anger and hatred.
Unfortunately you forgot to mention Stefan Zweig. He is one of the most popular writers.
O café de lá devia ser muito ruim.🤐
first wow
Puccini is not the greatest italian opera composer.Verdi was...by all accounts..
First
I'm 668th! Yeah!!!!
9605th! Yay us!
I just went down the rabbit hole on why do the English seem to love adding an "Er" Or Ker to words. AmericaKER, Obama'ER, and the end of words. Is this just a blatant disrespect? I notice they don't have a problem with not saying ER to Putin but, when it comes to the US, I know the south USA is special, so do certain English share that in-ability? I'm not trying to be insulting, I just want to understand.
They drop r's where they should be and put in r's where they shouldn't be. There are a few places in the US they do this too. It's weird, since I speak a strongly rhotic US dialect with strong back vowels.
One theory suggests that aberrant intrusive rhoticism, which pervades some of the dialects of anxiously, hopefully aspiring English petite bourgeoisie, is just the understandable (and hardly worthy of mention) result of a widely-spread, nearly pathological fear that one might be wrongly thought to have orally released an irredeemably déclassé glottal stop.
@@jonrolfson1686 You tried too hard to use high English, without saying much of anything. But thanks for participating. You're mastery is impressive. Cheers.
@@Bacopa68 True, Being in Virginia I have found that I can understand dialects from many parts of the US, and the UK, where friends of mine have no clue. I've seen shows with Sub-titles from Scotland and I ask why? I can understand them, but I guess many can't here. My late wife was German, I wonder if they can't understand each other as well, speaking the same language.
How about a TOPTENZ differences between the KKK and the BLM?
Stalin killed Trotsky and Hitler and Tito killed Stalin
lol 😝