QNAP TS-451+ 4-Bay NAS - 16gb Memory Install
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- This video will instruct you on how to upgrade your
QNAP TS-451+ 4-Bay Next Gen Personal Cloud NAS, Intel 2.0GHz Quad-Core CPU with Media Transcoding to 16GB of Ram
Crucial 16GB Kit (8GBx2) DDR3 1600 MT/s (PC3-12800) CL11 SODIMM 204-Pin 1.35V/1.5V Notebook Memory CT2KIT102464BF160B
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I saw another video about this but nobody seems to care whether the memory actually gets used. In order to test it, create a couple VMs that together use more than 8GB of RAM.
If they both run and the OS inside each VM reports that it has access to the RAM you set it up to use, then this works. If not, it's a false trail and a waste of money.
I'm not buying the RAM to do the upgrade until I can find proof the RAM is actually being used and that's the best way I can think to test it. It would force an error if the RAM could not be used.
It's not enough to just show me the screen that says 16GB. You have to do testing to see if the 16GB (or any RAM above 8GB) is being used. Please create two VMs using over 4GB RAM each and run them simultaneously, NOTE what each VMs OS is using and report your results here.
No way, I have that same exact screwdriver. Came from a CompUSA repair kit before they went out of business. Thanks for posting this. I might give it a try with my exact same NAS.
Thanks for this tutorial, you are a champ. I now have 16 gigs usable memory....AWESOME . I am so happy this worked.
I did this a few months back with the help of your video. Just wanted to thank you for the good step by step.
Thank you for posting this video. Very helpful. Just upgraded my TS-451+ to 16 GB using your instructions!
No problem, glad it helped.
I love all the guys "doubting" this. ROFL cracks me up...
Very useful, thank you.
Thank you for posting this video. I just updated to 16gb and it works perfectly!!
np, glad it helped! enjoy
ciao scusa Andrea solo per capire quanto e' stabile la configurazione a 16 gb, da quanto tempo ti gira cosi?
Thank you for this video, I was looking at upgrading my NAS and I am going to go with this unit at a cheaper 2 Gb of RAM and upgrade to 16 Gb. I will order the NAS and RAM at the same time. Then I will have 16 right from the start. :-)
Really helpful video. Am thinking of buying this NAS and read alot about needing more RAM. Not so nervous now. Thanks
Glad it helped!
Great video, can't understand why anyone would give it a thumbs down.
Hey just a quick update, after more searching around, I believe what is happening is people are being confused by the ARK page. The J1900 does in fact have a 8GB memory limit, but that is PER MEMORY CHANNEL, that is why 16GB works, because it's a dual memory channel cpu and since you are only putting 8GB per channel, you get 16GB. So yes, by the ARK page, your max memory limit would be 16GB total (8GB per channel) so most likely any 2X8GB DDR3L 1333 Memory kit would work.
This set of chips is 2X8GB 1600 DDR3L SODIMM RAM, not 1333, so am guessing that any of the the faster 1600 would work as well. Not sure if CL11 (CAS latency) is essential to match up with or not though. I gather this is also Unbuffered and NON-ECC so would look for that in the specs as well.
It should be noted that while Intel Ark lists 8GB max on many lower end/embedded chips, this limitation is usually implemented in software on the chip, and many vendors get versions of Intels chips with various limitations altered/disabled, to meet various design goals and needs. It is entirely possible these chips are of a sub-model batch, that the 8GB limit was disabled on, which would explain why they are able to detect 16 GB properly. All intel 64 bit chips support at least 16GB design and channel wise, but many are limited intentionally at the chips software level, to force you to use/buy higher end chips to get more ram capacity, it is how Intel makes more profit margin. Notable examples of devices where these limits are voided, are many of the embedded firewall boards that use chips that supposedly dont support more than 2GB, but often are found to work fine with 8GB or more. This is also why many/most of the super cheap intel atom quad core laptops, such as those with X5s, and others, have the RAM soldered on, making it impossible to remove/swap, because the chips technically support more ram, but intel and the vendors use that to force you to get a higher end model to get more ram capacity support.
I'm planning to do this and bought the RAM right out the gate. One question I have is should I get it setup first before installing the RAM or can I swap/install the RAM before initial setup? Does it matter?
I believe I was already using mine before upgrading the ram.
Great video!
Is your Nas running smoothly after a couple of months from your post? I've read that many people have problems with 3rd and 4th drive of Raid 5. Thanks in advance (i have a TS-451A and i'm about to do the 16GB upgrade)!
+SerenityBrokenBand I'm currently only running a mirror
I bought a QNAP TS-451+NAS a few days ago, upgraded one slot to a cache SSD, that and aggregate made quite a positive impact, so, I decided
to buy 16 GB Crucial, not the 16GB kit, just 2X8GB CT102464BF160B RAM modules
Installed both dimes, and then....Nothing, 4 slots populated, 1,2,3 with $GB drives, slot 4 with a 480GB SSD as a cache disk.
Nothing is actually, the network Led light up and the first and second LED, nothing happens after that.
I tried 1 Dimm in the original slot, does not work either.
So, it seems to me QNAP did something about it or I got the unlucky "ticket"
I read several forums, some where lucky, some not, but this, most time, was a while ago, like years ago.
Is there anything else I can do?
did this upgrade and qnap just entered reboot loop. replaced memory modules and problem only happened for one module. But system would not boot properly for 8 gig installed. Stumped as many people have upgraded and had no problem.
Dear Hip-IO, so if I was to decide to choose between TS-451+ 2GB and TS-451+ 8GB, I should take the 2GB version and update memory to 16GB? Do you consider this upgrade safe and robust even after one year? Thanks!
+Juraj Maciak I would do the 2G and upgrade it. It's found it easy, but it depends on your comfort level opening it up and installing it. I find when you second guess your self that's when mistakes happen, so just be confident. Mine is still running efficiently.
What specs does the RAM need, so that I know it would work with my QNAP TS-451+?
Formfactor: SO ? (with 204Pins?)
Voltage: 1.35V, 1.5V ? (Does it depend?)
Type: DDR3L, DDR3 ? (Does it depend?)
Clockspeed: ? (Are all Clockspeeds compatible?)
(I would just need 8GB = 2*4GB and wanted to look for used to get them cheap.)
You don't have to label the drives. It doesn't matter which way they go in either.
16gb works fine this was the first thing I did before I even out drives in it.
why does qnap make it difficult to upgrade ram?,why not just an easy slot
Great video !!!! If I may indulge your knowledge. I live on my boats. I am currently setting up a 77 foot Catamaran and like how these units are 12vDC so I do not require an inverter as all my other network gear is 9vDC or 12vDC (a great feature for POE and my AP's"). Could you be as so kind and tell me the exact printed voltage and amp output of the external power supply of your unit !!! Thanks so much !! Alan
Maybe way too late to help you, but if anyone else wonders, mine says 12Vdc/7.5A.
I've read that Intell claims that machine can only utilize 8 GB of RAM even if it is recognizing 16 GB installed. This 16 GB upgrade has to be tested and proven yet.
Intel says the CPU is limited to a max of 8GB RAM, but I'm surprised it recognizes 16GB if it can't utilize it.
I'd like to see screens showing the NAS actually using all of the 16GB (or at least using more than 8GB).
Have you had any stability issues? One of the threads off reddit redacted the original report on Crucial CT102464BF160B 16GB (2x8GB) RAM, claiming the RAM was causing segfaults. Is yours still running ok?
I've been running it fine without error since the video was made.
Does it affect/void the warranty if I upgrade the memory at home?
I have seen a number of QNAP owners talking about very slow boot times for QNAP nas (5-10 minutes). I was wondering if you were observing this as well.
Yeah I would say so.. I don't need to reboot that often though
Mine (2GB) was taking about 6.5 minutes to boot. Replaced the 2GB with 2x 4GB (8GB total) and boot time dropped to 5 minutes. Wasn't expecting that, but happy about it anyway. The thing can be left running, so boot time isn't usually a big deal.
Почему у всех в видео используется Сrucial? Я установил в QNAP TS-451+ модули памяти Kingston HyperX Impact [HX316LS9IBK2/16], и всё работает просто супер!
Thanks for the video. However, my TS-451A won't take 2*4G(CT51264BF160B). Crucial told me it is compatible, but QNAP told me that I have to buy their own modules to upgrade.
This is also a good time to replace the cooling fan.
Same as previous videos, there is no point upgrading your 451+ to 16GB RAM if you have not upgraded your CPU in the first place. The native CPU on your QNAP 451+ is an Intel Celeron Quad Core J1900 and Intel clearly specifies that the maximum RAM supported by this particular CPU is... 8GB.
The QNAP OS which I think is Linux based will detect your 16GB very clearly and will even fully exploit it but only prior to a CPU upgrade.
There are two elements to consider before upgrading RAM on any electronic device:
1- can the OS take it?
2- can the CPU take it?
The answer for the QNAP 451+ is:
1- Yes
2- No
Im usin 8Gb. Now am tempted. Haha
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Guys, better to buy a single 16GB stick....or 2 x 16GB
Can someone tell me what the crucial product number is for the two 8gb sticks of Ram?
Is it possible to upgrade the cpu of that 451+?
CPU looks like a BGA processor...on board...not coming off
it can even do more but i think there is no point in doing so
Do you get better performance in Virtualization with 16GB? Dost it work faster with virtualization?
+Otto Agne I've only used my system with 16gb, so I can't compare. But being able to allocate more mem to the VM will increase performance.
Everything works faster with more RAM...less swapping and I/O operations
@@HipIOReviews Please provide a screenshot that shows the OSes of two VMs together using more than 8GB of RAM and I'll believe the RAM is being used.
The QTS reporting is not enough if the CPU cannot make use of if. If you can show actual usage of over 8GB, then I'll believe it and buy the memory to do the upgrade.
@@stevesybesma i'd like to know too but this poor bugger is only showing that ya "can" do it....not to convince you of it's capabilities... i'm sure the guy doesn't have enough fucks to give if you buy it or not.
what watch you got?
will this work on the ts451p2?
Not sure, sorry.
8 GB maximal ,, rest wird einfach nicht benutzt.. Wo sind denn die TEST ??? lol 16 GB einbauen und dann.. sollte mann n ob es was nützt obwohl 8gb reicht als nas..
Well... QNAP TS-451+ is using Intel Celeron Processor J1900 which can only deal with 8gb of ram. Since I doubt intel would lie like that - I will place a bet that half of your ram is never used.
actually, it works fine, i do think the Intel Ark page is in error/typo i mean who's really caring about specs on an OEM j1900 cpu. ROFL. But it does in fact give you 16GB ram, i did this as soon as I got my 451+. I run several virtual machines on it, using 4 - 8GB each, and leaving 2gb for NAS stuff. Yea it works just fine.
@@bBrain Can you send a screenshot of two VMs running simultaneously and the amount of RAM each OS reports being used that adds up to over 8GB? That would seal the deal for me. Merely setting up the VMs to use the RAM that QTS already acknowledges is there is one thing. If the OS in each VM reports it's using the amount of RAM you setup and it is over 8GB total, I'm upgrading mine. I think that's an adequate test.
@@stevesybesma Ok no prob, I have two unix boxes on it, let me setup two win boxes real quick I know it works, I've done it several times. Here's a screen of the setup
snag.gy/RxbXdV.jpg
You can't do two VM's running both exactly 8GB, as you only have 16GB and you need to always have 2GB for the NAS os to use. You can do one VM as 8GB and another as 6GB. 2 is being used by the qnap.
@@stevesybesma Screens
qnap virtstation snag.gy/DnIzE5.jpg
autoinstalling win10 on two VMs snag.gy/5sRCph.jpg
as soon as windows is installed I'll shoot some more of both of them
@@stevesybesma snag.gy/iCQUec.jpg and there is two separate win10 vms.
Granted running two window 10 vms like this is pretty much slow, they run better if they were set to like 6gb each and 2 cores each... But yes it does in fact use all the memory. Unix style vms obviously run a lot better than windows.
i think these assholes make it so difficult to put in that second ram so that you're forced to buy the upgraded qnap and pay their markup rather than do it yourself.
Great testing. Why does crucial reports that it's not compatible. Did they really tried?
www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct2kit102464bf160b (will it work on my system section below)
+Luis Ramos maybe QNAP reports to them it doesn't, as they probably want your to buy a upgraded nas model?