As someone who has endured the torment of failed Hifiman drivers on several of my Hifiman headphones over the last few years, I think the last thing Hifiman customers need is Hifiman making the drivers of their headphones even more prone to failure and damage.
can you make sure to test the latest outgoing HE1000 SE model? a lot of people are saying that its been retuned to sound less bright and smoother than when it first came out.
Arya Stealth is my best all-rounder. At current prices I'm surprised reviewers don't just tell everyone to get it. I guess it leaves no click-revenue from other reviews though.
@@Äpple-pie-5k Agreed. I still hear Edition XS/Ananda recommendations/comparisons even now from the bigger reviewers. Arya Stealth is $600 and has been for nearly a year lol
@@papoosee not super narrow at all. It is a bit smaller than other Aryas, but it remains a soundstage-relevant headphone, and it could be the most enjoyable one for longer sessions without EQ because it is the less shouty among Aryas. The widest Arya to my own perception was the first version. But if you're only looking for extreme soundstage you should just focus on the HD800s alone.
@@papoosee I haven't seen anyone say that. The V2 is considered a monstrous sound stage and the complaint by some is that the Stealth isn't quite as big in sound stage. K2 isn't as high as Everest but that doesn't mean it's a "super tiny mountain"
Thanks Resolve! Hifiman has found a winning strategy by decreasing the overall mass of the headphones while improving the sound at the same time. If this is to continue in the next generation, I wonder what will be coming off when the Hifiman Buck Naked series is announced. 🤔
Wow, for once hearing this thing at CanJam was actually spot on! I suspected I like this a lot more than the other HE-1000's at the Hifiman booth, but I almost couldn't trust my ears. Glad to hear it confirmed by your further listening/measuring!
I loved my HE100SE. They were a big step up in everything from Arya Stealth for me. I now have Susvara OG and there's a certain something that I miss from HE1000SE but I have to say overall Susvara are doing so much more. I would still love to hear an elevated/improved version of HE1000. I did notice he said that he still prefers Susvara OG to the new Unveiled versions.
Same. V2 secondhand was pretty much the upper limit of what I could spend on a headphone, and I'm nervous enough about damaging them. I'm happy for a better measuring, more expensive, more delicate version to be for other people.
I think you meant the HE1000 Stealth not the HE1000 SE, but I think you should review the SE as well as many are reporting it is much better now than it was when it first came out and also less treble, silent revisions??
9:00 Hey Resolve, i take it you meant the HE1000 Stealth here, not SE. In addition to this review and many others, as an owner of the HE1000 Stealth and SE, I personally believe the Stealth has the very best tuning I've heard from ANY headphone at ANY price. And I've heard and owned a lot of them. The SE has more air, better detail (by far) and IMO a cleaner sound. And it can be EQd so incredibly easily to match just about any other signature. It takes EQ so well. But the HE1000 Stealth has a whole tuning vibe that I cannot describe. You will love it if you get one to extensively review. I am sure of it.
I just had the chance to listen to this at a shop in shanghai with all the big names of headphones. They had empyrean 2 , utopia, and so on. Nothing came close in my opinion. They were 2000 euro aswell... still doubting if i will go back tomorrow and get them
What about dynamics / transients / punch vs Nanos / Organic / Stealth or LCD X? What genre's is it best for? They look stunning to be but the price! I don't think i'd spend more than £1600 which would put me in the maximum ball park of 1000SE or MM500. I'm curious about the arya unveiled..
The bass boost phenomenon you mentioned at @00:12:00 from sound leaking from the earcups, I can confirm. The cause is a phenomenon known as **air loading** ie. air pressure buildup and is due to Hifiman's choice of diaphragm material as well as its thickness. Although the diaphragm successfully achieves the desired lightening fast transient response it is not quite stiff enough to overcome the air damming effect that the air pressure buildup causes so it cannot maintain the boosted bass frequencies experienced during sound leak situations. I mentioned this to Hifiman and you know what their solution was: EQ !! :P I quite like the boosted levels and have successfully reproduced it by removing the OEM earcups and then cutting stiff foam in the shape of open rings which resemble the letter C, which allows a place for the sound to leak and placing them between my ears and the drivers. It's spontaneous and impermanent but effective. What I really need is a resourceful individual with a 3D printer and some idle time to print up side-vented acrylic earcups...
So on the organic, we test this and actually found it to be a driver mode, given the driver Fs is lower down with an air gap. With the HEK unveiled, the resonance frequency is also around 30hz, similar to many hifimans. But yes this effect can be utilized in tuning with certain modifications.
These headphones are for people who have like a different table with just a DAC/AMP and a headphone both sitting in separate cases that they take out for an hour long session of focused listening, and then put them away in their cases once they are done. The cover definitely makes me better since you can just put the covers on and then sit them on the table, but these aren't for quick and dirty listening at all.
It looks cool. It probably sounds awesome. It is also sooooo fragile… I own HE1000 stealths that I paid for 3000 when they came out. I sadly wont risk so much money with unveiled and stick to mine lol
The other He1000 series being so “cheap” now makes this really hard to justify. Both He1000 stealth and He1000se are pretty much the best value you can get in the $1000-$2000 range and Unveiled being $2700 will need to be substantially better than its brothers especially if I have to deal with the Unveiled physical problems.
I'm sure I'll catch some flack for sounding like a pleb or whatever, but even compared to more expensive headphones I heard at CanJam last year, HE1000SE was definitely my favorite. I wish I had $1700 laying around so I could get one lol But yeah, if you're in that price range, HE1000SE is an excellent choice.
We are talking audiophiles if u are talking the sub 500$ range u are correct spending 2x for slight performance sounds stupid but for anyone buying an hifiman headphone in the first year except this price and is willing to pay while us normal people wait a year and get it for 1/3rd the price after a year just remember audiophiles will buy a 1000$ cable since they belive itll be better
Can you guys make a video on driver stiffness and tension on headphones? As far as I understood it's important and it does have a role in sound quality. I wonder if it's the main culprit behind the timbre of a moving coil headphone vs a planar and ESTAT ?
If only someone could come up with an innovation to make closed back headphones without the drawbacks so we wouldn't have to worry about the exposed membrane
It still has that 2K dip that I have to equalized in all their models. I'm surprised either Hifimen or a canny headphone veteran hasn't figured out what is wrong with their design: there must be a contour of their cup or driver mounting position that causes this dip to persevere. Aside from that dip, they make some fine-sounding & high-value cans!
Hi mate got a quick question regarding my listening to closed back headphones if you can help? I'm finding when I wear my wireless old Sony MX3s if I open my mouth and listen the clarity of the music improves greatly is there any wireless headphones in your experience that don't clamp on the head so much to create a tight seal and allows more "air" in? Or is just not as tight? Cheers if you can help.
@@KhanSphere NA means not acceptable? If it means "North American" then Merriam-Webster dictionary specifically flags it as wrong usage, which will be a negative status marker on the speaker's education/socioeconomic class level. It absolutely grates on the ears and fails the ambiguity test. Meaning if you use it in a phrase where it could mean either, it cannot be interpreted as meaning either.
I’d like to see a comparison with this version in particular. The SE is the best sounding HEK imo. I’ve also heard as many others that there has been a silent update that has improved the treble.
@@tadokorovsky9746 this is just simply not true. not saying youre too broke to buy them, but the only people saying this are people too broke to buy them. as a person who owns over 20 pair of headphones from $99 to $2000, i can confidently say your statement is pretty damn ridiculous.
I never liked Hifiman, their headphones always sound thin, and I prefer something a little richer, more full bodied I have an Ananda OG, an HE400s and an RE600
Still has the same shit cheap ear pads and headband. When will they do something about the shoddy build on there expensive headphones? The new shangling ones are built better and its a first headphone. It is nice to see the tuning has been vastly improved though.
I feel like you are being disingenuous .... The drivers have covers that go on the outside when the headphones are not in use...you only remove them when you go to listen to music, what would you be jabbing into the side of your head sitting listening to music. When you take them off you just put the covers back on, any damage to the driver would be user negligence
Isn't damage to any driver pretty much always user negligence? I think what he's saying is that it's just much more likely to be damaged without protection. For example, I could easily see someone coming up to me to ask a question or something and me just setting them down on my desk and this damaging the driver (I have a lot of stuff on my desk which would respond to a magnet). This wouldn't be nearly as much of a concern if it was protected.
The story going around was someone had a screws and the like on their desk and they were sucked in by the magnets when putting the headphones on a stand; not sure how true it is but that was what I heard.
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As much as I appreciate the live videos, dedicated videos are much more useful. Thanks for putting in the time and effort.
And not 3.5 hrs long.
One day, we will figure out some way to protect headphone drivers.
Hifiman HE1000 Protected coming next year👍
HE1000 Re-veiled probably
@@bren.rthis made me chuckle
HE1000se V2 Stealth Veiled 2 MKII Cheese Grater Edition
I can’t help but thinking that this open without any protection design is a truly bad idea serving a very noble reason.
As an Electrical Engineer with a lot of crap on his desk, I would definitely worry if a tiny screw would get yeeted through the diaphragm.
Its not a question of “if” but it’s a question of “when”
100% agree on this. I have tweezers, some random m2 and m3 screws, wires, i am already worried on my regular aryas let alone something "unveiled"
These kinds of headphones belong on a mahogany table next to a leather recliner in a room with not much else👍
@@hartyewh1 Exactly. If you're incapable of following very simple precautions then this headphone isn't for you.
It needs snap-on protective covers for when it's not in use. AND a headphone stand so you never put it down on a surface.
Nice one Resolve. I'm very happy sticking with the HE1000 Stealth V4. Great all Rounder
As someone who has endured the torment of failed Hifiman drivers on several of my Hifiman headphones over the last few years, I think the last thing Hifiman customers need is Hifiman making the drivers of their headphones even more prone to failure and damage.
can you make sure to test the latest outgoing HE1000 SE model? a lot of people are saying that its been retuned to sound less bright and smoother than when it first came out.
Thx for bringing the Arya Stealth up, it hasn't been considered a lot lately, but it is a valuable all rounder for the current prices.
Arya Stealth is my best all-rounder. At current prices I'm surprised reviewers don't just tell everyone to get it. I guess it leaves no click-revenue from other reviews though.
@@Äpple-pie-5k Agreed. I still hear Edition XS/Ananda recommendations/comparisons even now from the bigger reviewers. Arya Stealth is $600 and has been for nearly a year lol
Do you think the Stealth has a narrow soundstage compared to the Organic? Some people say the Arya Stealth has a super narrow soundstage.
@@papoosee not super narrow at all.
It is a bit smaller than other Aryas, but it remains a soundstage-relevant headphone, and it could be the most enjoyable one for longer sessions without EQ because it is the less shouty among Aryas.
The widest Arya to my own perception was the first version. But if you're only looking for extreme soundstage you should just focus on the HD800s alone.
@@papoosee I haven't seen anyone say that. The V2 is considered a monstrous sound stage and the complaint by some is that the Stealth isn't quite as big in sound stage. K2 isn't as high as Everest but that doesn't mean it's a "super tiny mountain"
Finally, the measurements have been unveilled. Dang thats a flat FR
Thanks Resolve! Hifiman has found a winning strategy by decreasing the overall mass of the headphones while improving the sound at the same time. If this is to continue in the next generation, I wonder what will be coming off when the Hifiman Buck Naked series is announced. 🤔
I guess this unveiled tech will trickle down into the lower models eventually and then everyone can afford it.
Too bad they couldn’t have come up with something better especially in terms of appearance and durability.
@@GadZookz agree. That headband needs a redesign not paying 2 grand to have scratchy sliders.
Wow, for once hearing this thing at CanJam was actually spot on! I suspected I like this a lot more than the other HE-1000's at the Hifiman booth, but I almost couldn't trust my ears. Glad to hear it confirmed by your further listening/measuring!
I loved my HE100SE. They were a big step up in everything from Arya Stealth for me. I now have Susvara OG and there's a certain something that I miss from HE1000SE but I have to say overall Susvara are doing so much more. I would still love to hear an elevated/improved version of HE1000. I did notice he said that he still prefers Susvara OG to the new Unveiled versions.
Great review. I’ll keep my HE1000V2 thanks!
V2 (not stealth) best version ever
Same. V2 secondhand was pretty much the upper limit of what I could spend on a headphone, and I'm nervous enough about damaging them. I'm happy for a better measuring, more expensive, more delicate version to be for other people.
I think you meant the HE1000 Stealth not the HE1000 SE, but I think you should review the SE as well as many are reporting it is much better now than it was when it first came out and also less treble, silent revisions??
Kind of odd that the biggest win from Hifiman's new lineup is the heavy discounts on the older models...
HE1000SE for the win...
Thank you. Enjoyed the review.
would be nice to know just how close are the HEKU vs the SusOG... did the HEKU move closer or farther away....
For electronic and bass music which is better?? Arya Unveiled vs He1000 Unveiled??
9:00 Hey Resolve, i take it you meant the HE1000 Stealth here, not SE. In addition to this review and many others, as an owner of the HE1000 Stealth and SE, I personally believe the Stealth has the very best tuning I've heard from ANY headphone at ANY price. And I've heard and owned a lot of them. The SE has more air, better detail (by far) and IMO a cleaner sound. And it can be EQd so incredibly easily to match just about any other signature. It takes EQ so well. But the HE1000 Stealth has a whole tuning vibe that I cannot describe. You will love it if you get one to extensively review. I am sure of it.
I came here for this. I have and love the stealth, but haven't seen any tests from Resolve.
How did you EQ the SE to match the Stealth? I'm curious.
I just had the chance to listen to this at a shop in shanghai with all the big names of headphones. They had empyrean 2 , utopia, and so on. Nothing came close in my opinion. They were 2000 euro aswell... still doubting if i will go back tomorrow and get them
Is the main body still metal like my he1000 v2 stealth or plastic like Arya?
What about dynamics / transients / punch vs Nanos / Organic / Stealth or LCD X? What genre's is it best for? They look stunning to be but the price! I don't think i'd spend more than £1600 which would put me in the maximum ball park of 1000SE or MM500. I'm curious about the arya unveiled..
The bass boost phenomenon you mentioned at @00:12:00 from sound leaking from the earcups, I can confirm. The cause is a phenomenon known as **air loading** ie. air pressure buildup and is due to Hifiman's choice of diaphragm material as well as its thickness. Although the diaphragm successfully achieves the desired lightening fast transient response it is not quite stiff enough to overcome the air damming effect that the air pressure buildup causes so it cannot maintain the boosted bass frequencies experienced during sound leak situations.
I mentioned this to Hifiman and you know what their solution was: EQ !! :P
I quite like the boosted levels and have successfully reproduced it by removing the OEM earcups and then cutting stiff foam in the shape of open rings which resemble the letter C, which allows a place for the sound to leak and placing them between my ears and the drivers. It's spontaneous and impermanent but effective.
What I really need is a resourceful individual with a 3D printer and some idle time to print up side-vented acrylic earcups...
So on the organic, we test this and actually found it to be a driver mode, given the driver Fs is lower down with an air gap. With the HEK unveiled, the resonance frequency is also around 30hz, similar to many hifimans. But yes this effect can be utilized in tuning with certain modifications.
Since they are kinda similar at price now - how do they compared to Empyrean 2?
Empy 2 is a way different sound signature no?
These headphones are for people who have like a different table with just a DAC/AMP and a headphone both sitting in separate cases that they take out for an hour long session of focused listening, and then put them away in their cases once they are done.
The cover definitely makes me better since you can just put the covers on and then sit them on the table, but these aren't for quick and dirty listening at all.
It looks cool. It probably sounds awesome. It is also sooooo fragile… I own HE1000 stealths that I paid for 3000 when they came out. I sadly wont risk so much money with unveiled and stick to mine lol
The other He1000 series being so “cheap” now makes this really hard to justify. Both He1000 stealth and He1000se are pretty much the best value you can get in the $1000-$2000 range and Unveiled being $2700 will need to be substantially better than its brothers especially if I have to deal with the Unveiled physical problems.
I'm sure I'll catch some flack for sounding like a pleb or whatever, but even compared to more expensive headphones I heard at CanJam last year, HE1000SE was definitely my favorite. I wish I had $1700 laying around so I could get one lol But yeah, if you're in that price range, HE1000SE is an excellent choice.
I agree. The HE1000SE is something magical
We are talking audiophiles if u are talking the sub 500$ range u are correct spending 2x for slight performance sounds stupid but for anyone buying an hifiman headphone in the first year except this price and is willing to pay while us normal people wait a year and get it for 1/3rd the price after a year just remember audiophiles will buy a 1000$ cable since they belive itll be better
@@itamar8424 Youre right for the most part, but I do think Hifiman buyers are generally more value oriented than most other brands' audiences.
@@CosmicPotato HE1000se was on sale for $1100 like 2 weeks ago
At around 1:20 there was a cut/edit, so what did you pick up to poke the magnets? 😂
Can you guys make a video on driver stiffness and tension on headphones? As far as I understood it's important and it does have a role in sound quality.
I wonder if it's the main culprit behind the timbre of a moving coil headphone vs a planar and ESTAT ?
If only someone could come up with an innovation to make closed back headphones without the drawbacks so we wouldn't have to worry about the exposed membrane
The Dan Clark Ether C is the best you can get for a closeback especially with EQ
It’d going to have to heavily utilize DSP if you ask me. There’s likely no physical change that could otherwise fix that.
It still has that 2K dip that I have to equalized in all their models. I'm surprised either Hifimen or a canny headphone veteran hasn't figured out what is wrong with their design: there must be a contour of their cup or driver mounting position that causes this dip to persevere. Aside from that dip, they make some fine-sounding & high-value cans!
I don't get that Hifiman all models tremble fixation , people are different tunings should be too.We won t crucify them if they make a warmish one..🧐
you said you needed to test he1000se, but there is also he1000 stealth, I assume you confused the names? lol
No, he1000 stealth is he1000v3 not he1000se
Hi mate got a quick question regarding my listening to closed back headphones if you can help? I'm finding when I wear my wireless old Sony MX3s if I open my mouth and listen the clarity of the music improves greatly is there any wireless headphones in your experience that don't clamp on the head so much to create a tight seal and allows more "air" in? Or is just not as tight? Cheers if you can help.
I wonder how much of the change is caused by the actual "unveiling".
5:25 is a little bit below the target tho so i think it might had lose some energy in the bass.
you mean you didnt try out yet the he1000 stealth and not the se maybe you confused the names.
I dont think he reviewed that one (unfortunately).
@@OrganNLou its a shame i think the he1000 stealth in my opinion is the best egg shaped Hifiman
@@AsmirArifi I know, dont know why they haven't been reviewed by most reviewers!
@@OrganNLouI don't think Hifiman have been sending it out for review.
Why the hell are the holes in the outer grill not perfectly lined up?
How does it compare to the Empyrean 2?
I wonder how it sounds while caps are on.
What do you mean by Calibrated?
I much prefer these shorter vids. I can’t handle a 3 hr vid about headphones these days
Resolve please review Fiio ft1
Totally in to buy them for 1700 in two years.
lol
"Momentarily" means "for a moment". Not "in a moment".
Thanks for video review.
In NA English, "momentarily" has a second use, look it up.
@@KhanSphere NA means not acceptable? If it means "North American" then Merriam-Webster dictionary specifically flags it as wrong usage, which will be a negative status marker on the speaker's education/socioeconomic class level. It absolutely grates on the ears and fails the ambiguity test. Meaning if you use it in a phrase where it could mean either, it cannot be interpreted as meaning either.
Can't imagine it sounding better than the HE1000SE
The original?
I’d like to see a comparison with this version in particular. The SE is the best sounding HEK imo. I’ve also heard as many others that there has been a silent update that has improved the treble.
I like to try this. I always liked HFM sound.
We NEED a Lensys Professional Review!
yes please, andrew
Yes, we do!
Lensys is Azurys but producerfied to be more expensive imo
@@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah not from what I've heard, uses the same drivers but completely different tuning
@@Mishael_Agyei-BoamahLensys Pro has a completely different tuning
2x the price better or just better.
Even the $2000 headphones are not 2x better than some of the $200 headphones. You are paying 10x the price for 10% improvement
@@tadokorovsky9746 diminishing returns are entirely subjective and are therefore not comparable.
@@tadokorovsky9746 "no no my subjective reality is the only correct one". Ayn Rand's lt account.
@@tadokorovsky9746 diminishing returns are entirely subjective and are therefore nt comparable.
@@tadokorovsky9746 this is just simply not true. not saying youre too broke to buy them, but the only people saying this are people too broke to buy them. as a person who owns over 20 pair of headphones from $99 to $2000, i can confidently say your statement is pretty damn ridiculous.
id probably care if i didnt have build quality issues with every single hifiman i tried
I never liked Hifiman, their headphones always sound thin, and I prefer something a little richer, more full bodied
I have an Ananda OG, an HE400s and an RE600
Zmf
Try the HE1000 Stealth (warm and full)
@@OrganNLou are you kidding? Lol 🤣
I like many of the Sennheisers
Susvara is the answer
I eat far too many soups with headphones on to ever switch from my Ovals...
Not for me, I'm too clumsy for owning fragile stuff
heylo
Still has the same shit cheap ear pads and headband. When will they do something about the shoddy build on there expensive headphones? The new shangling ones are built better and its a first headphone. It is nice to see the tuning has been vastly improved though.
The sound makes up for all of that.
Make a video on most affordable headphones with excellent sound quality
Aune AR5000
I feel like he did, and it was the HD600.
First
I feel like you are being disingenuous .... The drivers have covers that go on the outside when the headphones are not in use...you only remove them when you go to listen to music, what would you be jabbing into the side of your head sitting listening to music. When you take them off you just put the covers back on, any damage to the driver would be user negligence
Isn't damage to any driver pretty much always user negligence? I think what he's saying is that it's just much more likely to be damaged without protection. For example, I could easily see someone coming up to me to ask a question or something and me just setting them down on my desk and this damaging the driver (I have a lot of stuff on my desk which would respond to a magnet). This wouldn't be nearly as much of a concern if it was protected.
He mentioned the covers at the end of
The story going around was someone had a screws and the like on their desk and they were sucked in by the magnets when putting the headphones on a stand; not sure how true it is but that was what I heard.
@@chungang7037 that...never happened lol...
Almost first :)
But But Why would you test them,HiFiMAN Headphone dont sound good at all !!! ?