The cops may have fired, but the "father" that put her in that position, may have made her into an accomplice in the murder of her mom and gave her a gun to shoot at the officers is who killed her
@@jay1jayf what engagement standards are going to be improved? when 1 side was a murderous pos who endangered his daughter (but it's ok, he gave her a bullet proof vest, so father of the year), by shooting at the police, taking them on a high speed car chase that tend to end bad... if anything this was a uicide by cops, and it all started with the dad
@@HasanPikerIsADouchegreat name 😂 😂 😂 but yeah she's for sure an accomplice as she's shooting at them while the dad is driving and since there's only 2 in the car she was the only possible person to be seen shooting out of the passenger seat. Probably forced into by her dad but still the fact remains she shot at them too. The cops fucked it in the end ultimately when they were told not to shoot her and the main goal was to save HER
Cops in this area came out guns drawn after i experienced some domestic abuse but when they saw my partner was white, they put them away in a heartbeat (btw his illegal guns were reported in the home too) it's just the stupidest thing you can do, thats what they are
There's also reports from other vehicles on the freeway during the chase that say that shots were coming from the passenger side of the vehicle. Fucked up situation all together.
That's sad if u try to find something something positive in this shit. Atleast she didn't have to feel depress for losing both parents for a lifetime and trauma of kidnapping. But still sad.
I saw the video made by donut operator, it really breaks down everything that happened. Also the cops really got unorganized at the end and even started cross firing at each other. And the girl was also shooting at the cops from the passenger seat. There's dash cam of it. The whole thing is so f up.
Not excusing this situation but she may or may not have been shooting at cops and civilians. They should have said to hold fire before telling the girl to get out of the truck.
Weird thing was the ammount of people saying shots were coming from the driver and passenger side , plus girl didn’t look to bothered when she was buying snacks
There are other more thorough breakdown videos of this incident showing gunfire coming from the passenger, and eye witness reports recorded on dash cams AND recorded dispatch calls reporting gunfire coming from the passenger. She was also caught on video in a store (not in distress after the mother was already murdered) picking up snacks for their “road trip.”
Yes but facts don't matter to some people in the comments. They truly believe lack of training in your average patrol cop would've prevented all this. Just like they believe cops can pull a john wick and 'just shoot their legs'. Opinions that are grounded in fantasy and not reality.
As tragic as this is, esp. considering that some of it could have been possibly prevented if not for a lack of communication, it is wrong to issue a blanket statement regarding "all cops". Not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. Many cops do a good job and help people, however their efforts aren't the ones highlighted on the news. Only those involved when something goes wrong get the most attention. In our area we recently had two cops gunned down in an ambush when they went to a suspect's house, after the suspect took off when they tried to pull him over for a traffic stop. They didn't know that the guy was on drugs and armed when they showed up to his house. There was another recent incident where an officer was killed when a suspect pulled off the heavy chain he was wearing, beat the officer with it, then strangled him with it. The suspect and his gf had been being escorted out of a casino for causing a disturbance and the officer was assisting security to remove them from the premises. And a couple/few years ago another officer was killed in an ambush while he and his partner were on a stakeout, trying to investigate 2 homicides. Most memorable was from Christmas Eve 2012 in West Webster, NY. A guy had killed his sister, then set his house on fire to cover it up. When the fire fighters showed up to try to put out the fire and save the neighborhood, the guy ambushed them and shot and killed 2 of the first responders, one of which was a police officer as well as a fire fighter, the other was a fire fighter that was just 19 yrs old. The police arrived on scene to help the other first responders who were injured and get them to safety. They also helped evacuate the residents in the nearby houses because the fire crews couldn't put out the original house fire till the scene was secured. The cops eventually tracked down the suspect and brought the tragedy to an end. Yet the ripple effects of what happened are still felt to this day. May all the families, friends, neighbors, and colleagues find the comfort and strength they need to get through the days, months and years ahead without their loved ones. And may all those lost R.I.P.
@@RVFFICA It's not funny for the families that lost fathers, husbands, sons, and the colleagues that lost their co-workers, friends, and brothers in the first responder community.🤨
@@RVFFICA The problem isn't individual bad cops, it's the entire system. It's the blue veil. There is an entire history of police corruption, incompetence, and brutality. ACAB isn't literal, it's actually about the entire system needing changes and understanding that every cop, good or bad, is more or less subjected to it. You also hear stories of how the good cops don't have much power. I remember a jk video where a cop in training was allegedly killed during a training exercise to prevent him from "snitching" on some other cops. Sure, there are ACAB people that hate literally every cop, but the point is bad apples spoil the bunch. Remember all the times you hear of a cop getting a slap on the wrist for killing someone for no reason and how it was a big deal when the cop who killed George Floyd got sentenced? Also, if you know the history of police in America, it'd make more sense why the system needs a little makeover. Even in this video, they're talking about how low the training standards are.
@@GYSMelanie5 I still remember standing in my living room in shock and disbelief, watching it play out on the live news coverage. My dad was a fire fighter throughout my childhood, so I have been around FD families all my life. I still get emotional remembering the families' grief during the funerals. Esp. Chip's oldest son. And the brothers of the younger fire fighter. :'( It was such a moving turnout though seeing so many from the community, and first responders from around the country and the world come to pay their respects.
To Nick, regarding his joke about fire fighters and "how many fires are there to put out?". Fire fighters also respond to MVAs, drowning rescues, medical emergencies, crime scenes when people are injured, shot, stabbed or attacked, and hazmat situations, to name just some of the things they do.
Need more info on this. So was she wearing gear or not? Also, where were the officers positioned compared to the one calling the girl over. The way lay out looks there was a lot of obstacles in the way if you are in the back. If the officer calling the girl over did not inform the rest of the officers in the back, then this is possibly the cause. Now what is the thinking on this? One the reports can say that the girl was abducted while on the search for them, but infact she could have been a willing accomplice to the murder of the mother. You do not know that for sure when you are pulling up to the scene.
it is the cause you have to tell the rest of the team whats going because your shoot back for survival at this point so if one is not suppose to be shot you tell them or else one is gonna shoot the wrong person. Plus they were mission brief on what the goal is so their job is to for fill the mission. It was 2 against however many cops are their if they killed the dad they could have communicated with the daughter. They had plenty of time.
Isn't it so easy to judge without being on the ground? Yes things went south, but lets dissect the situation. The perp is driving county to county going triple digits, ground units are scrambling last minute to pursue. Multiple departments are trying to work with one another without prior planning. Lack of communication between responding officers. Adrenaline pumping and out comes a suspect full sprint with a tactical vest on. For all they know, another woman could've been part of the kidnapping. Also, possibly a bomb strapped to the vest? I guarantee none of the patrol officers that day were trained in hostage rescue. But mistakes were made. Poor communication between responding officers and multiple departments. The officer calling out to the victim to sprint towards him without radioing in his intentions. Lack of trigger discipline and so on. It's a shitty situation overall but not everything is black and white.
@anothercommenter-nu2tf My guy, I get all that, but it's one girl against how many "trained" officers? I'm no expert, but I'm sure they could've done so many things to not kill that girl.
That is because not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. Those are just the ones that get highlighted on the news the most when something goes wrong. From the vid they did where Bart explains what some police, he personally knows have done to help people.... "Off The Record: Cops Stayed the Night at Bart's House!?"
so whats the verdict for the polices involved? Like they had no communication and did not listen to their office when they said there was 1 suspect and 1 victim confirmed. Plus they were briefed about the case before pursuiting
1st world country btw. its insane how i feel safe on southeast asia than the u.s. though i only lived in new hampshire and hawaii both are pretty safe but idk about anywhere else.
Interesting, considering that recently it was a knife wielding guy who attacked a bunch of people in that Australian mall. Killing a 1/2 dozen people and injuring several others, including an infant, before being confronted and subsequently and permanently stopped by a female police officer with a gun.
No, because not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. There are a lot of good cops that actually help people. It is just that the bad ones get the most press coverage when things go wrong. In our area, recently the cops showed up where there was a loud crowd gathering and a disturbance call. The cops were watching hands as they were trained to do, and spotted it immediately when a guy pulled a gun from his pocket, so they acted quickly to disarm him and take him into custody before he could open fire into the crowd. Turns out he was a felon from out of FL. The cops did their jobs and saved lives.
I remember driving to work at night and seeing the freeway was STILL closed. They hid the details for months and everyone assumed that she came out guns blazing and instead of just an innocent child caught in everyone else's battles
If it is perceived as a threat, such as a person getting out of truck that shots had been fired from, and running towards other officers then yes. They will do what they were trained to do to protect the other officers who's lives they believe to be in danger.
@@splashpit I saw it referenced in the comments under a different JK video. Your original comment is a blanket statement, yet my point still stands in reference to this particular situation.
"there's Cambodians in the room?" 😂
I didn't want to laugh, but I did 😂😂.
😂😂
just the title alone, that's already not a good look
Shut up
It was sad. Poor little girl
My friends a firefighter and he said that if there’s no calls all they do is work out and do drills
And check and maintain their equipment.
RIP to the mother and daughter! The psychological toll it takes after the fact that they "murdered" this girl is not enough...
The cops may have fired, but the "father" that put her in that position, may have made her into an accomplice in the murder of her mom and gave her a gun to shoot at the officers is who killed her
@@HasanPikerIsADouche nah bad on the cops. Better to accept it to improve engagement standards
@@jay1jayf what engagement standards are going to be improved? when 1 side was a murderous pos who endangered his daughter (but it's ok, he gave her a bullet proof vest, so father of the year), by shooting at the police, taking them on a high speed car chase that tend to end bad... if anything this was a uicide by cops, and it all started with the dad
@@HasanPikerIsADouchegreat name 😂 😂 😂 but yeah she's for sure an accomplice as she's shooting at them while the dad is driving and since there's only 2 in the car she was the only possible person to be seen shooting out of the passenger seat. Probably forced into by her dad but still the fact remains she shot at them too. The cops fucked it in the end ultimately when they were told not to shoot her and the main goal was to save HER
Cops in this area came out guns drawn after i experienced some domestic abuse but when they saw my partner was white, they put them away in a heartbeat (btw his illegal guns were reported in the home too) it's just the stupidest thing you can do, thats what they are
As horrible as this is, it's entirely on the dad for putting his kid in a shootout situation
Agreed
true, "cease fire" means nothing these days smh
True and wassup Brett
A very fucked situation.
It's really sad and tragic, and that father put his own baby in harms way.
I love that there are soooo many videos, so I rarely run out of background entertainment for my chores
Lol so real
May the daughter rest in peace. Who knows all the stuff she went through before then?
watching this and the wacky music of JK News playing in the background is surreal
There's also reports from other vehicles on the freeway during the chase that say that shots were coming from the passenger side of the vehicle. Fucked up situation all together.
That's sad if u try to find something something positive in this shit. Atleast she didn't have to feel depress for losing both parents for a lifetime and trauma of kidnapping. But still sad.
What is the San francisco cop video Joe was referring to? 6:20
I love Subin 😂😂.
I saw the video made by donut operator, it really breaks down everything that happened. Also the cops really got unorganized at the end and even started cross firing at each other. And the girl was also shooting at the cops from the passenger seat. There's dash cam of it. The whole thing is so f up.
That was a rough one to watch, hearing the officer screaming to stop shooting, but one side thought it was the dad... it was a sh*t show at the end
@@HasanPikerIsADouche So a slim tiny person is consider the dad to ppl wow
did she drop the gun when she ran toward the cops?
@@minatonamikaze9393 she didn't have a gun at all, which is the worst part. I think the cops just had tunel vision on the vest she had on.
So how was she shooting at the cops without a gun?
Not excusing this situation but she may or may not have been shooting at cops and civilians. They should have said to hold fire before telling the girl to get out of the truck.
Weird thing was the ammount of people saying shots were coming from the driver and passenger side , plus girl didn’t look to bothered when she was buying snacks
I've seen firefighters training and man it looks hard but tbh everyone is so friendly that it is probably nice to go through it all together
I cant with Bart💀💀💀
There are other more thorough breakdown videos of this incident showing gunfire coming from the passenger, and eye witness reports recorded on dash cams AND recorded dispatch calls reporting gunfire coming from the passenger.
She was also caught on video in a store (not in distress after the mother was already murdered) picking up snacks for their “road trip.”
Yes but facts don't matter to some people in the comments. They truly believe lack of training in your average patrol cop would've prevented all this. Just like they believe cops can pull a john wick and 'just shoot their legs'. Opinions that are grounded in fantasy and not reality.
bro usually when it comes to us humans shock hits first plus kidnapper still feeds the victims.
Poor kid
Subin's sound effects kill meee i'm glad he's more regular now
I just realized that bear beanie is from a Jackie Chan movie.
Height/Weight and PT is something a lot of people don't take seriously. But yeah, often times you'll see firefighters running in groups.
“sole” 😂😂 I see you Uso Subin!
8:00
As tragic as this is, esp. considering that some of it could have been possibly prevented if not for a lack of communication, it is wrong to issue a blanket statement regarding "all cops". Not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. Many cops do a good job and help people, however their efforts aren't the ones highlighted on the news. Only those involved when something goes wrong get the most attention.
In our area we recently had two cops gunned down in an ambush when they went to a suspect's house, after the suspect took off when they tried to pull him over for a traffic stop. They didn't know that the guy was on drugs and armed when they showed up to his house.
There was another recent incident where an officer was killed when a suspect pulled off the heavy chain he was wearing, beat the officer with it, then strangled him with it. The suspect and his gf had been being escorted out of a casino for causing a disturbance and the officer was assisting security to remove them from the premises.
And a couple/few years ago another officer was killed in an ambush while he and his partner were on a stakeout, trying to investigate 2 homicides.
Most memorable was from Christmas Eve 2012 in West Webster, NY. A guy had killed his sister, then set his house on fire to cover it up. When the fire fighters showed up to try to put out the fire and save the neighborhood, the guy ambushed them and shot and killed 2 of the first responders, one of which was a police officer as well as a fire fighter, the other was a fire fighter that was just 19 yrs old. The police arrived on scene to help the other first responders who were injured and get them to safety. They also helped evacuate the residents in the nearby houses because the fire crews couldn't put out the original house fire till the scene was secured. The cops eventually tracked down the suspect and brought the tragedy to an end. Yet the ripple effects of what happened are still felt to this day.
May all the families, friends, neighbors, and colleagues find the comfort and strength they need to get through the days, months and years ahead without their loved ones. And may all those lost R.I.P.
The old Bad apples quote that I forgot applies to the system for sure 😂
@@RVFFICA It's not funny for the families that lost fathers, husbands, sons, and the colleagues that lost their co-workers, friends, and brothers in the first responder community.🤨
@@RVFFICA The problem isn't individual bad cops, it's the entire system. It's the blue veil. There is an entire history of police corruption, incompetence, and brutality. ACAB isn't literal, it's actually about the entire system needing changes and understanding that every cop, good or bad, is more or less subjected to it. You also hear stories of how the good cops don't have much power. I remember a jk video where a cop in training was allegedly killed during a training exercise to prevent him from "snitching" on some other cops.
Sure, there are ACAB people that hate literally every cop, but the point is bad apples spoil the bunch. Remember all the times you hear of a cop getting a slap on the wrist for killing someone for no reason and how it was a big deal when the cop who killed George Floyd got sentenced? Also, if you know the history of police in America, it'd make more sense why the system needs a little makeover. Even in this video, they're talking about how low the training standards are.
The one in Webster was my daughter's boss, his brother was the partner of the one killed.
@@GYSMelanie5 I still remember standing in my living room in shock and disbelief, watching it play out on the live news coverage. My dad was a fire fighter throughout my childhood, so I have been around FD families all my life. I still get emotional remembering the families' grief during the funerals. Esp. Chip's oldest son. And the brothers of the younger fire fighter. :'( It was such a moving turnout though seeing so many from the community, and first responders from around the country and the world come to pay their respects.
Very sad. 😢
Yeah, I didn't even listen to this. Skipped it. 😢
To Nick, regarding his joke about fire fighters and "how many fires are there to put out?". Fire fighters also respond to MVAs, drowning rescues, medical emergencies, crime scenes when people are injured, shot, stabbed or attacked, and hazmat situations, to name just some of the things they do.
Need more info on this.
So was she wearing gear or not? Also, where were the officers positioned compared to the one calling the girl over. The way lay out looks there was a lot of obstacles in the way if you are in the back.
If the officer calling the girl over did not inform the rest of the officers in the back, then this is possibly the cause.
Now what is the thinking on this?
One the reports can say that the girl was abducted while on the search for them, but infact she could have been a willing accomplice to the murder of the mother.
You do not know that for sure when you are pulling up to the scene.
She was wearing gear and during the pursuit, fired at police. Dashcam showed rounds being shot passenger side. Brainwashed by a POS dad.
it is the cause you have to tell the rest of the team whats going because your shoot back for survival at this point so if one is not suppose to be shot you tell them or else one is gonna shoot the wrong person. Plus they were mission brief on what the goal is so their job is to for fill the mission. It was 2 against however many cops are their if they killed the dad they could have communicated with the daughter. They had plenty of time.
*sigh* Back the Blue right.....smh
How? Just how? How incompetent can they be? How much training do these idiots get? How is Bart doing to defend this?😂
Isn't it so easy to judge without being on the ground? Yes things went south, but lets dissect the situation. The perp is driving county to county going triple digits, ground units are scrambling last minute to pursue. Multiple departments are trying to work with one another without prior planning. Lack of communication between responding officers. Adrenaline pumping and out comes a suspect full sprint with a tactical vest on. For all they know, another woman could've been part of the kidnapping. Also, possibly a bomb strapped to the vest? I guarantee none of the patrol officers that day were trained in hostage rescue. But mistakes were made. Poor communication between responding officers and multiple departments. The officer calling out to the victim to sprint towards him without radioing in his intentions. Lack of trigger discipline and so on. It's a shitty situation overall but not everything is black and white.
@@anothercommenter-nu2tf So poor training? Just like he said.
@anothercommenter-nu2tf My guy, I get all that, but it's one girl against how many "trained" officers? I'm no expert, but I'm sure they could've done so many things to not kill that girl.
@@chriswave1992 Lol. Just curious, what's your job occupation?
@@thalunizz21 Clearly you don't get anything I wrote if that's your response.
Robocop - coming soon 2035
8:57 bart said per capita per intersection which doesnt make sense. He is kind of stupid.
😭 how do you mess up that bad
Like Joe said, they do bare minimum during practice. No one trains properly and it shows during this "rescue"
You can see Bart looking for a way to defend 💀
That is because not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. Those are just the ones that get highlighted on the news the most when something goes wrong. From the vid they did where Bart explains what some police, he personally knows have done to help people.... "Off The Record: Cops Stayed the Night at Bart's House!?"
Because not everything is black and white. Go watch Donut Operator's breakdown on the situation.
They must've thought she had an acorn... R.I.P.
Nah... she had a murderer for a dad, who kidnapped her and put her in danger
@@HasanPikerIsADouche r/woosh
@@HasanPikerIsADoucheyou miss the joke
I blame the defund the police movement. Less money means less training means incapable policemen.
Bullllllllllssssssshittt smoothbrain! Police do this shit all the time.
From reading the comments, these cops probably never were trained for this kind of thing.
Or anything
so whats the verdict for the polices involved? Like they had no communication and did not listen to their office when they said there was 1 suspect and 1 victim confirmed. Plus they were briefed about the case before pursuiting
Nothing will happen like usual
It's a downer of an article, but you guys still manage to make us laugh
Who likes tacos?
Do choco tacos count?
Well damn that story was sad.
Smh
1st world country btw. its insane how i feel safe on southeast asia than the u.s. though i only lived in new hampshire and hawaii both are pretty safe but idk about anywhere else.
😮
lmao america and guns
Go look up the dad... something tells me those guns and tactical gear he had were not legal
Interesting, considering that recently it was a knife wielding guy who attacked a bunch of people in that Australian mall. Killing a 1/2 dozen people and injuring several others, including an infant, before being confronted and subsequently and permanently stopped by a female police officer with a gun.
When I heard this was near me and what happened I cried
FTP
No, since not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. They are just the ones that get highlighted on the news.
ftp!!
No, because not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. There are a lot of good cops that actually help people. It is just that the bad ones get the most press coverage when things go wrong.
In our area, recently the cops showed up where there was a loud crowd gathering and a disturbance call. The cops were watching hands as they were trained to do, and spotted it immediately when a guy pulled a gun from his pocket, so they acted quickly to disarm him and take him into custody before he could open fire into the crowd. Turns out he was a felon from out of FL. The cops did their jobs and saved lives.
I remember driving to work at night and seeing the freeway was STILL closed. They hid the details for months and everyone assumed that she came out guns blazing and instead of just an innocent child caught in everyone else's battles
Those cops will just shoot at anything that moves regardless
If it is perceived as a threat, such as a person getting out of truck that shots had been fired from, and running towards other officers then yes. They will do what they were trained to do to protect the other officers who's lives they believe to be in danger.
@@bethnichols2875 you have seen acorn cop right ?
@@splashpit I saw it referenced in the comments under a different JK video. Your original comment is a blanket statement, yet my point still stands in reference to this particular situation.
Cops need to be trained more often to keep their jobs and tested for mental health hearing checks
On a weekly and if any officer or department falsely any documents will be imprisoned for life
This can ONLY happen in America btw
Its always socal cops
Which state sparked a nationwide riot?
@@anothercommenter-nu2tf depends which one your talking about
@@xchsanch Nationwide bruh.
Yeah well firefighters dont kill people 😂
Yeah lets call firefighters for a high speed pursuit.
The cop worshippers can’t defend this one
They will find a way😂
FTP
No, since not all cops are bad, nor incompetent. They are just the ones that get highlighted on the news.
U forgot the r in your name... right between the a and d