I hate this world for its treatment of Israel. I hope you get your people back soon. Thank you for fighting for freedom and the West, even if the West is too far gone to appreciate it..
@@PerryHowell-h9vYou feel the West stands for ethnic cleansing and genocide? The governments do, I guess. Israel helped bring these terrorists to power, aren't you aware of that?
Oh my god. Theo - you survived. You truly survived. Physically, mentally - you are alive. You are able to verbalize and process everything you’ve been through, all the distortion of reality and normalcy. you are a rock. Please take care of yourself. You’re incredible and really unique.
Not one word from the united nations. Decades of all forms of torture, men, women, children, families and death for hundreds of thousands, mass graves for over 50 years and NOT ONE WORD from the united nations or ANYONE else. Madness of our world
@@cate9963 they're evil. Medieval people wouldn't be doing that stuff, it's not a mindset, it's just evil. These people and their religion are evil, all of them.
There's no hatred or anger in this brave gentleman's heart, i want him to hate and be angry, but I've never been in his position. But man, this hurts me a lot
they broke him down. try to understand he is not the person he was before he was kidnapped. (1 he saw their anger and subconsciously he despises it. he has subliminal anger.
I was just about to write "Stockholm syndrome' and I kid you not, the term came out of the guests mouth. Clinically (I'm a clinical therapist), there are 'trauma bonds' all over the place here. People can bond to each other during traumatic experiences, meaning, the traumatic event is what bonds them together, and it's extremely difficult to break these bonds. I hope this guest is finding the psychological help that is needed for him to heal. And, in order to heal, one has to leave the environment in which one is wounded.
You are wrong...soldiers have a deep sense of respect and yes, even love for the enemy...because a soldier is just a young man following orders and experiencing trauma..your enemy is excactly the same...so it's easy to forget you where enemies ones in battle and can now form a deep connection together in civilian life
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat I get tired of interacting with people like you when you say stuff like this, and yet, you would probably question what I was basing my opinion on. I just can't win for losing with your types. I simply stated the perspective from which I was commenting as the average person cannot speak into these sorts of situations with any credibility. If I don't state the basis for my comment, you get belligerent. If I state the basis for my comment, you still get belligerent. People like you sit in your mom's basement in your underwear scrolling youtube just to find places to make miserable comments. Get a damn life.
Agreeing with you. I was hoping the new government in Syria will be better, but it seems that the way they torture and submit people is the Syrian way. The younger generation just learned and passed it on unless there is a new way coming in. For the time being, sad to say that I am not too optimistic.
Everyone should have common sense. There is no way in hell that I would go to any of these countries for any reason. Their mercilessness and ignorance is next level.
This man is traumatized. One second he talks about the horror of his situation, and the next second he is speaking so well of his captors. Stockholm syndrome.
The thing that floored me about Isis, exposed by Graeme Wood, is that they are extremely willing to talk to anyone, because they are completely religious and proselytize whenever possible.
It takes great moral courage and power to able to understand the depravity of such a false ideology and this man isn't that strong really. To sympathize with evil is reprehensible. I listened for 27 minutes before I decided yeah, I'm not going to listen to Stockholm syndrome folks lol 😂
@@AB-fr9rh well you made a mistake, you would know more if you stayed and didn't go off on your teenage girl rage quit...he simply understands that many of them are victims them selves and where raised to be that way, but deeply as humans
This poor man is completely traumatized by torture. There’s something about the way he speaks that sounds so profoundly psychologically twisted. So sad.
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeyes he has and I acknowledge that but… still being in communication with his captors and the way he speaks about them doesn’t strike you as odd? I attribute it to a Stockholm syndrome of sorts… 🤷🏻♀️ my heart goes out to him
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape This is what cults do to people, he knows what's happened to his own mind by it. In his own words he was psychologically transformed. He still talks to them; he's bonded to them in a way none of us could ever understand. It's twisted, it's completely twisted, but he knows that it is. We know that it is, and yet there is nothing that can be done about it. He sees himself in those young men, who were psychologically twisted by the same ideology from birth, that he was in captivity.
Yes, I agree 💯. Sadly, this man is damaged forever whether or not he's moved on from these horrific atrocities. This is a very compelling interview. Moynihan's at his best when he interviews troubled souls such as this man. Overall, I am disturbed, to say the least 😢
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape There's coping, but then there's this concept where he learned to "just submit", a seeming nihilistic perspective where you just give up your sense of self against your opressor, "resistance is futile" kinda stuff.
Truly wild content in this interview. Thank you to mister Padnos for speaking about your experience and to Michael for the great work interviewing. The insights here are vital to beginning to understand Syria and its potential future.
@ Where did you get that connection from? Islamism has many sources and origins, Egypt, Saudi Arabia etc… I would understand if you said the war in Iraq? But what does support for Israel have to do with Syria? Other than the delusion amongst jihadist that hatred for Israel and the west will serve as a binding principle amongst their ranks? That belief I fear has far more to do with their religious notions of apostasy and nothing the west does to ameliorate that belief will change it.
I feel like the interviewer was always interrupting him at just the point where he was going to say what I was interesting in finding out. I'm left feeling very frustrated.
This is so revelatory on how children are raised in the Al-Qaeda cult it is not optional but to sumbit to the cult, and learn how to torture from age 6. Mossab Yousef son of the founder of Hamas in Gaza, has been through the same process as a child though doesn't expose it as explicity as Theo Padnos. Who survived deadly conditions in a Syrian prison. However, T Padnos still has the peculiarity to remain in contact with his torturers to glean information on how the regime is going to unfold in the Levant Region??? Is that the reason?. It would be very interesting for him to meet Mosab Hassan Yousef ex Hamas operative who was deprogrammed, worked for the Mossad, became a Christian and received refuge in the USA.
I wouldn't say Mossab is a Christian. In many of his more recent interviews he said he dabbles in many spiritual practices and moved away from Christianity.
Its probably hard for him to go into all this horrific details and its so far away from what we can imagine....the kids he is talking about inrolled in being torturers. all the terrorists grew up like that being beaten and seing beating as part of life . This man talks about this stuff and he knows there is no way to be like before and he keeps talking to this guys as a friend and knows there loneliness and that they never learned another way ...
I recently read that Stockholm Syndrome wasn't actually a real thing, but his evasive answers about his feelings toward his torturers are to me definite proof that it's very real. But man, I would have never survived what he survived.
I couldn't either. The thought is harrowing. It is Day 436 for the remaining hostages, if alive, wherever they may be and whomever may be holding them. Americans included. I think about them every day. Especially Kfir Bibas, the 8 month old (at the time). It is also long enough that the women we saw on the news being separated by who was able to procreate, to have gotten pregnant AND given birth. It's just awful to imagine. Just as the stories of the surgeries performed by veterinarians on the poor injured people who got out during the first wave and told us the stories of their time being held. It's all beyond comprehension. Listening to these stories makes me feel like he is speaking as it is an out of body experience for him. Maybe that is the only way he can cope.
@skontheroad, do you think about all the dead children, women, men, cats, and dogs from Gaza? Because this hostages, which many of them are IDF, could have been free long time ago, as were the seasonal worker from Thailand. Netanyahu don't care about the hostages.
I can‘t believe such kind of cruelty. Moreover that the Journalist survived in Syria!! 🇸🇾 How can the devil by devils produce a change??!!!!!!! Thank you so much for your honest report!! 😢😢😢
Theo. I'm really astounded at your story. I get what you are talking about keeping in touch with the guys that held you. I understand your feelings and the idea of submitting to them as a prisoner. The interviewer is so perplexed and it amused me greatly.😂 Very interesting experience you have had.
Excellent interview. The reason Americans can’t understand that there are two bad guys is bc in America, the narration of the story and of every story is ‘good guy vs bad guy’. In other nations, they don’t look at the world in this binary so it isn’t so hard to understand for us that there are bad and bad guys and both are flavours of negative for us though they might be better or worse
They are all bad guys to us in the sense that they are so far away from our way of thinking. Muslim culture just doesn't mingle with the western culture, period.
Oman seem mild. 🤷♀️ I genuinely question whether many of these nations are able to produce anything other than sectarian tyrants. Sounds harsh, but…it is what it is.
This video was uploaded 6 hours ago but when was it recorded? This info is time-sensitive: the guest says "They are comporting themselves relatively decently at the moment." AT THE MOMENT. When was that moment? This why it would be good to start each podcast with the date and time.
This interview should be everywhere. Gosh the things he suffer led but the abuse they do the children is horrific because they not just get robbed of their childhood with horror but also transform them into entities of hate, could that be reversed? Gosh
I would expect it to take two generations of exposure to Western liberal education and lifestyle for these people to actually evolve from the medieval mindset/lifestyle they've been stuck in since the 1500s.
Or maybe not, because their masters knew who these people were when they brought them to power. The function of the mainstream media is not to investigate but to do the rebranding.
He was about to say something very interesting about the psychology of becoming a violent extremist at @27:15, but the interviewer cuts him off and asks something banal about Oct 7th
Michael knows where he was going. Oct 7th was committed by jihadists that were raised in the environment he describes. The children are taught to torture people.
Why does it always needs to be good vs evil? Here is an example of a ruthless ruler replaced by jihadist militia. The ruler protected minorities at times but destabilise his neighbours. The militia showd they can try and be civil while also being ruthless. The world is not a disney movie.
This man studied Arabic, he studied Islam and yet he realized that he made a stupid mistake by going into Syria. Possibly another young person never trained in critical thinking or consequences. Just my opinion. His survival and release was a miracle. I wish him well and thank him for sharing. This is the reality that we must be aware of in our current geopolitical scene.
This interview is wild and so fascinating. I am so sorry for this man’s suffering and all he has been through. What and how he was treated, their methods, need to concern the West.
please interview his cellmate Schrier. Shryer wrote a book called the Dawn prayer and from what it says padnos or really Curtis is a horrible cellmate.
This is interview was just stunning. The way he just casually admits that he still keeps in contact with his captors, including that very morning. I'm just completely flummoxed as to what he's revealing here. I don't think Michael fully appreciated in the moment what was going on here.
This is powerful..his understanding of capturers is amazing. I would hate so intensely if this had happened to me. The dynamics in the middle east is so confusing to me as an American. I have much to learn...
You are so wrong about that. You're from the Anglosphere where people go "no contact" with family for imagined slights and everybody speaks psychobabble therapy-ese. You live in a world so different from others that you can't begin to understand.
Met a Christian from Syria over ten years ago that opened my eyes that while Assad was brutal, what would come next would be worse. Happened in Libya where we destabilized for no understandable reason
What a minute ... Shrier! Shrier reported that Padnos knew he was Jewish and refused to help him and acted in defence of the terror group. I'm completely confused. Shrier needs an interview here. Because they have two different accounts of the same experience.
What does he mean there is nothing in Islam saying torture that guy? Mohammed ordered for the torture of many people, most famous is the husband of his future wife Sofyia, in the battle of Kaybar... He ordered his torture to say where he has hidden the money. This guy speaks Arabic but know nothing about islam. He should refrain about talking about Islam
What he's describing is the Stockholm Syndrome where the person being tortured gains an appreciation for those who are torturing them as their caregivers. A real twist of sanity. They come to believe they deserve to be abused.
Unfortunately, anyone familiar with this part of the world finds that predicting how events will unfold is deterministic, even when the Media pretends otherwise. Touching interview
How is that any different? Hamas and their Gazan civilian friends are jihadists. They are Isis; they are Al Qaeda. They are all one and the same!!! Islamic fanatical fascists!!!
I think his point is that by talking to his captors he can be a source to understand them and their motives. No person is a syndrome. Ac a cancer survivor I get his acceptance and joie de vivre.
Oh sh1t. I didnt know hts was al nusra. This probably isnt going to turn out well. Unless there was some severe change in attitude about the other factions. I know the ketader says there us, but that group crasles people who do very, very bad things. Its hard to see hiw they can be trusted to not install their own extremist g 't.
All I can think about are our hostages in Hamas captivity and what they are going through..
I hate this world for its treatment of Israel. I hope you get your people back soon. Thank you for fighting for freedom and the West, even if the West is too far gone to appreciate it..
@@PerryHowell-h9vYou feel the West stands for ethnic cleansing and genocide? The governments do, I guess.
Israel helped bring these terrorists to power, aren't you aware of that?
@PerryHowell-h9v Thank you 🙏.
A brilliant interview. Thank you. And kindest wishes to Theo.
Oh my god. Theo - you survived. You truly survived. Physically, mentally - you are alive. You are able to verbalize and process everything you’ve been through, all the distortion of reality and normalcy. you are a rock. Please take care of yourself. You’re incredible and really unique.
Very disturbing indeed.This is one of the most fascinating and compelling interviews I've listened to
The religion of peace in action
I don't know if it's the cousin inter-marriage amongst them or lack of actual education but his jailers seem to be very stupid - as in low-IQ.
Oh yeah, what Mr Murray told us all along
Bigot
100 percent accurate to Douglas & others
idiot assad did much worse america did much worse in guantanamo and still does
Not one word from the united nations. Decades of all forms of torture, men, women, children, families and death for hundreds of thousands, mass graves for over 50 years and NOT ONE WORD from the united nations or ANYONE else. Madness of our world
Try google next time.
What are you talking about...
These people who said you're animal...they're even worst on what you're accused of.
These terrorists are pure evil
I don't think they are evil. They are simply staying in the medieval way unfortunately and haven't arrived at the modern day thinking.
@@cate9963 they're evil. Medieval people wouldn't be doing that stuff, it's not a mindset, it's just evil. These people and their religion are evil, all of them.
There's no hatred or anger in this brave gentleman's heart, i want him to hate and be angry, but I've never been in his position. But man, this hurts me a lot
they broke him down. try to understand he is not the person he was before he was kidnapped. (1 he saw their anger and subconsciously he despises it. he has subliminal anger.
An extremely profound interview.
Be sure to see the interview with another westerner who'd been trapped in Syria for years by the Triggernometry podcast guys, FF & KK.
"FF & KK"? Huh?
I was just about to write "Stockholm syndrome' and I kid you not, the term came out of the guests mouth. Clinically (I'm a clinical therapist), there are 'trauma bonds' all over the place here. People can bond to each other during traumatic experiences, meaning, the traumatic event is what bonds them together, and it's extremely difficult to break these bonds. I hope this guest is finding the psychological help that is needed for him to heal. And, in order to heal, one has to leave the environment in which one is wounded.
Nothing discredits a human being faster than saying "(I'm a clinical therapist)"
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatyour comment clearly shows that you’re a landscaper or dishwasher.
@twelve - haha, what have you experienced that makes you say that…
You are wrong...soldiers have a deep sense of respect and yes, even love for the enemy...because a soldier is just a young man following orders and experiencing trauma..your enemy is excactly the same...so it's easy to forget you where enemies ones in battle and can now form a deep connection together in civilian life
@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat I get tired of interacting with people like you when you say stuff like this, and yet, you would probably question what I was basing my opinion on. I just can't win for losing with your types. I simply stated the perspective from which I was commenting as the average person cannot speak into these sorts of situations with any credibility. If I don't state the basis for my comment, you get belligerent. If I state the basis for my comment, you still get belligerent. People like you sit in your mom's basement in your underwear scrolling youtube just to find places to make miserable comments. Get a damn life.
Terrible who in charge of Syria , same who did October 7 , 2023. Sorry to these who went through that torture
They are from the same lot as the Israelis all of them shame to shame
Wow. . . just wow! Thank you, Michael for this interview. It was quite sobering❤
Agreeing with you. I was hoping the new government in Syria will be better, but it seems that the way they torture and submit people is the Syrian way. The younger generation just learned and passed it on unless there is a new way coming in. For the time being, sad to say that I am not too optimistic.
Everyone should have common sense. There is no way in hell that I would go to any of these countries for any reason. Their mercilessness and ignorance is next level.
Listen to what the guest said about these countries.
This man is traumatized. One second he talks about the horror of his situation, and the next second he is speaking so well of his captors. Stockholm syndrome.
Him still talking to his captors on the phone is so beyond deranged
The thing that floored me about Isis, exposed by Graeme Wood, is that they are extremely willing to talk to anyone, because they are completely religious and proselytize whenever possible.
It takes great moral courage and power to able to understand the depravity of such a false ideology and this man isn't that strong really. To sympathize with evil is reprehensible. I listened for 27 minutes before I decided yeah, I'm not going to listen to Stockholm syndrome folks lol 😂
@@AB-fr9rh Yes, it was a 'profound psychological transformation'. This man needs a lot of help.
@@AB-fr9rh well you made a mistake, you would know more if you stayed and didn't go off on your teenage girl rage quit...he simply understands that many of them are victims them selves and where raised to be that way, but deeply as humans
It's called Stockholm syndrome
One of the best interviews I've ever seen in any field.
This poor man is completely traumatized by torture. There’s something about the way he speaks that sounds so profoundly psychologically twisted. So sad.
Odd take, he sounds like he's moved on and has coped, all that a human could ask for.
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeyes he has and I acknowledge that but… still being in communication with his captors and the way he speaks about them doesn’t strike you as odd? I attribute it to a Stockholm syndrome of sorts… 🤷🏻♀️ my heart goes out to him
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape This is what cults do to people, he knows what's happened to his own mind by it.
In his own words he was psychologically transformed. He still talks to them; he's bonded to them in a way none of us could ever understand.
It's twisted, it's completely twisted, but he knows that it is. We know that it is, and yet there is nothing that can be done about it.
He sees himself in those young men, who were psychologically twisted by the same ideology from birth, that he was in captivity.
Yes, I agree 💯. Sadly, this man is damaged forever whether or not he's moved on from these horrific atrocities. This is a very compelling interview. Moynihan's at his best when he interviews troubled souls such as this man. Overall, I am disturbed, to say the least 😢
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape There's coping, but then there's this concept where he learned to "just submit", a seeming nihilistic perspective where you just give up your sense of self against your opressor, "resistance is futile" kinda stuff.
What an evil society
Truly wild content in this interview. Thank you to mister Padnos for speaking about your experience and to Michael for the great work interviewing.
The insights here are vital to beginning to understand Syria and its potential future.
What's important for westerners to understand is that our support for Israel led to Islamists coming to power in Syria
@ Where did you get that connection from? Islamism has many sources and origins, Egypt, Saudi Arabia etc… I would understand if you said the war in Iraq? But what does support for Israel have to do with Syria? Other than the delusion amongst jihadist that hatred for Israel and the west will serve as a binding principle amongst their ranks? That belief I fear has far more to do with their religious notions of apostasy and nothing the west does to ameliorate that belief will change it.
@@Dktz91 The main actors behind the HTS incursion are US, Israel, Turkey, with others including Qatar and Ukraine
Chilling
UK just gave £50 million to these extremists
Say it ain't so! Please!!
@@TTFN55 It absolutely is so, unfortunately.
UK has gone crazy
Labour Party is full of them.
I would speculate that the same cash flows have gone to Gaza and Iran and its clients
Resilience defined
Ein milim is Hebrew for no words
Toda raba
Raq Malliuem
Indexed
חוסן אבל גם תסמונת סטוקהולם
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape Askok no Saka indeed my friend
We need a much longer interview with this guy. I feel like we just scratched the surface here.
What an amazing attitude and strong survival instinct. How would any of us react in such a tortuous, inhumane situation?
Another outstanding by Free Press. Racking up wins and paving the way.
I feel like the interviewer was always interrupting him at just the point where he was going to say what I was interesting in finding out. I'm left feeling very frustrated.
Yes, poor interview skills. Let him speak and don’t speak for him. Frustrating!
This is so revelatory on how children are raised in the Al-Qaeda cult it is not optional but to sumbit to the cult, and learn how to torture from age 6. Mossab Yousef son of the founder of Hamas in Gaza, has been through the same process as a child though doesn't expose it as explicity as Theo Padnos. Who survived deadly conditions in a Syrian prison. However, T Padnos still has the peculiarity to remain in contact with his torturers to glean information on how the regime is going to unfold in the Levant Region??? Is that the reason?. It would be very interesting for him to meet Mosab Hassan Yousef ex Hamas operative who was deprogrammed, worked for the Mossad, became a Christian and received refuge in the USA.
As I understand it the Levant is the Mideast with no Israel.
I wouldn't say Mossab is a Christian. In many of his more recent interviews he said he dabbles in many spiritual practices and moved away from Christianity.
@TTFN55 Levant is just the "neutral" name for Syrian region/Palestine/Israel etc.
@@zjzr08 - Ohhh! Thank you kindly.
Levant - The eastern Mediterranean where the sun was "levant" (Rising) from. As perceived by the Italian seaman, and later European colonial powers.
Fascinating, absolutely fascinating
Wait, what??? "They've rebranded???" That's effed up!!
The people who did the torture in Aby Ghraib are no longer in prison.
"Every cult member has a double personality. They can switch in and out. They know how to deal with the public."
Some of them are among us.
Fantastic interview. Compelling, informative and inspiring. 🙏🇬🇧🙏🇬🇧🙏🇬🇧🙏
Its probably hard for him to go into all this horrific details and its so far away from what we can imagine....the kids he is talking about inrolled in being torturers.
all the terrorists grew up like that being beaten and seing beating as part of life .
This man talks about this stuff and he knows there is no way to be like before and he keeps talking to this guys as a friend and knows there loneliness and that they never learned another way ...
An eye opener about HTS, the “liberators” of Syria in real time!
Fascinating. Thank you for this interview.
I recently read that Stockholm Syndrome wasn't actually a real thing, but his evasive answers about his feelings toward his torturers are to me definite proof that it's very real. But man, I would have never survived what he survived.
I couldn't either. The thought is harrowing. It is Day 436 for the remaining hostages, if alive, wherever they may be and whomever may be holding them. Americans included. I think about them every day. Especially Kfir Bibas, the 8 month old (at the time). It is also long enough that the women we saw on the news being separated by who was able to procreate, to have gotten pregnant AND given birth. It's just awful to imagine. Just as the stories of the surgeries performed by veterinarians on the poor injured people who got out during the first wave and told us the stories of their time being held. It's all beyond comprehension.
Listening to these stories makes me feel like he is speaking as it is an out of body experience for him. Maybe that is the only way he can cope.
@skontheroad, do you think about all the dead children, women, men, cats, and dogs from Gaza? Because this hostages, which many of them are IDF, could have been free long time ago, as were the seasonal worker from Thailand. Netanyahu don't care about the hostages.
Oh my soul ...Theo...My all Thanksgiving go to Ha Shem...your life was spared...
So much evil in this world..😢
It is true, very hard to make any judgments if you have no idea what it means to be tortured.
Thank you, Theo Padnos. If we are to survive, we in the west must understand what you have learned.
You don't know anything, I am Syrian, and we, the Syrian people, have not been able to speak for 54 years

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your story
Incredible dark journey,surprising he was able to keep his sanity.
I will NEVER forget this interview!!!! Thank you. Stepping into an alternative universe-- the (absurd) logic of terrorism explained.
Great interview.
How I wish you’d let the fellow speak…he had so much to say that you interrupted at key moments. Let’s get him on Jordan Peterson….and hear his story
I can‘t believe such kind of cruelty. Moreover that the Journalist survived in Syria!! 🇸🇾
How can the devil by devils produce a change??!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for your honest report!! 😢😢😢
Ever thought about how IRA fighters became members of parliament after the peace agreement?
Theo.
I'm really astounded at your story. I get what you are talking about keeping in touch with the guys that held you. I understand your feelings and the idea of submitting to them as a prisoner.
The interviewer is so perplexed and it amused me greatly.😂
Very interesting experience you have had.
Amazing story! Thanks for sharing.
The leader, al-Jolani, presents himself as a kind of Fidel Castro, defender of people.
Excellent interview. The reason Americans can’t understand that there are two bad guys is bc in America, the narration of the story and of every story is ‘good guy vs bad guy’. In other nations, they don’t look at the world in this binary so it isn’t so hard to understand for us that there are bad and bad guys and both are flavours of negative for us though they might be better or worse
They are all bad guys to us in the sense that they are so far away from our way of thinking. Muslim culture just doesn't mingle with the western culture, period.
Is there anywhere in the Middle East that has a government that isn’t problematic 🤷♀️ (apart from Israel obviously)
There is no functioning Islamic country.
Oman seem mild. 🤷♀️
I genuinely question whether many of these nations are able to produce anything other than sectarian tyrants. Sounds harsh, but…it is what it is.
Israel government isn't problematic?! Do you see the news? The genocide? Wtf is wrong with you
Absolutely none
No.
Nothing in Islam that tells their followers to torture people?! Are you kidding??!?
That’s very weird comments. He studied Islam, should know how Mohammed treated his prisoners.
Listen to understand, not to have a reply. Ugh! The interviewer cut him off time after time.
This video was uploaded 6 hours ago but when was it recorded? This info is time-sensitive: the guest says "They are comporting themselves relatively decently at the moment." AT THE MOMENT. When was that moment? This why it would be good to start each podcast with the date and time.
And the world is obsessed with Netanyahu
Bibi is a badass.
He is a killer and should be jailed (ICC). If I could choose by the neu guys from Syria.
This interview should be everywhere. Gosh the things he suffer led but the abuse they do the children is horrific because they not just get robbed of their childhood with horror but also transform them into entities of hate, could that be reversed? Gosh
I would expect it to take two generations of exposure to Western liberal education and lifestyle for these people to actually evolve from the medieval mindset/lifestyle they've been stuck in since the 1500s.
@@TTFN55And sounds not hopeful, we need a mindset change in the whole world, many cultures, for the sake of the next generations.
Thank you for the amazing interviews you have been doing! Such an amazing job all of you at the Free Press!!
Maybe finally the western
Media will cease with this ludicrous coverage of misrepresentation of the HTS
Most "western" governments do similar things in their prisons.
Be sure an see the Triggernometry interview with a Westerner who survived his life in Syria.
@@ShankarSivarajanno. Not even close.
@@ShankarSivarajan why are you a liar?
Or maybe not, because their masters knew who these people were when they brought them to power. The function of the mainstream media is not to investigate but to do the rebranding.
Indeed amazing interview - both men... Confirmed completely what I was thinking of the future Siria, unfortunately. Sad.
He was about to say something very interesting about the psychology of becoming a violent extremist at @27:15, but the interviewer cuts him off and asks something banal about Oct 7th
Michael knows where he was going. Oct 7th was committed by jihadists that were raised in the environment he describes. The children are taught to torture people.
Guys, US does this everyday as well, like almost every government does
Ominous interview.
Why does it always needs to be good vs evil?
Here is an example of a ruthless ruler replaced by jihadist militia.
The ruler protected minorities at times but destabilise his neighbours.
The militia showd they can try and be civil while also being ruthless.
The world is not a disney movie.
This is closer to the truth than the mainstream media or Bluesky users would have you belive.
Lol
I'm sorry but it IS good vs. evil. You're right in that the Mideast isn't "Aladdin" Disney movie.
Most of the Middle East and Africa, it's evil vs evil.
They are being "civil" to try and fool us.
I like this guy. Trustworthy
This man studied Arabic, he studied Islam and yet he realized that he made a stupid mistake by going into Syria. Possibly another young person never trained in critical thinking or consequences. Just my opinion. His survival and release was a miracle. I wish him well and thank him for sharing. This is the reality that we must be aware of in our current geopolitical scene.
I cannot stand the interviewer interrupting him all the time without ever saying anything worthwhile.
Yeah not a great interview. Couple times he even Kathy Newmans him.
This interview is wild and so fascinating. I am so sorry for this man’s suffering and all he has been through. What and how he was treated, their methods, need to concern the West.
Which faction exactly held him?
Theo has an amazing perspective. Sounds very realistic and practical.
Here is how brainwashed this poor soul is…. when he says, “they said he was human waste”; He shakes his head yes.
please interview his cellmate Schrier. Shryer wrote a book called the Dawn prayer and from what it says padnos or really Curtis is a horrible cellmate.
This is interview was just stunning. The way he just casually admits that he still keeps in contact with his captors, including that very morning. I'm just completely flummoxed as to what he's revealing here.
I don't think Michael fully appreciated in the moment what was going on here.
This is powerful..his understanding of capturers is amazing. I would hate so intensely if this had happened to me. The dynamics in the middle east is so confusing to me as an American. I have much to learn...
The interviewer never lests the guest fully answer a question, it's sooo frustrating!!
Ok, this guy underwent severe, prolonged trauma/horror-he clearly still needs major therapy as he is chatting regularly with these guys??!
You are so wrong about that. You're from the Anglosphere where people go "no contact" with family for imagined slights and everybody speaks psychobabble therapy-ese. You live in a world so different from others that you can't begin to understand.
@@anomietoponymie2140nah. You’re insane.
Keep your enemies closer
Met a Christian from Syria over ten years ago that opened my eyes that while Assad was brutal, what would come next would be worse. Happened in Libya where we destabilized for no understandable reason
The West has aimed to subvert Arab nationalism and pan-Arabism ever since this was a priority of the Eisenhower doctrine
Why are these people this way
There's a German journalist who visited ISIS and tried to understand this and came up with some nice answers.. sorry I forgot his name
Islam
What a minute ... Shrier! Shrier reported that Padnos knew he was Jewish and refused to help him and acted in defence of the terror group. I'm completely confused. Shrier needs an interview here. Because they have two different accounts of the same experience.
I recommend Matt's book. It's a masterpiece 😅
Unbelievable,excellent interview
What does he mean there is nothing in Islam saying torture that guy? Mohammed ordered for the torture of many people, most famous is the husband of his future wife Sofyia, in the battle of Kaybar... He ordered his torture to say where he has hidden the money. This guy speaks Arabic but know nothing about islam. He should refrain about talking about Islam
Man! This is sad!
But very true
But true
This is a most stunning account!
Abu Hamsa? Isn't he the guy Clarissa Ward of CNN "liberated" from his prison cell on camera?
What he's describing is the Stockholm Syndrome where the person being tortured gains an appreciation for those who are torturing them as their caregivers. A real twist of sanity. They come to believe they deserve to be abused.
That's not "Stockholm syndrom " . It's the fear of things outside the "bubble" so you feel safer with the crimenal
Unfortunately, anyone familiar with this part of the world finds that predicting how events will unfold is deterministic, even when the Media pretends otherwise.
Touching interview
The US uses some of these torture techniques. But I’m told we don’t call them torture.
Why does Moynihan always interrupt his guest? It's so irritating.
He lost me when he tried to compare 10/7 to jihadists.
How is that any different? Hamas and their Gazan civilian friends are jihadists. They are Isis; they are Al Qaeda. They are all one and the same!!! Islamic fanatical fascists!!!
10/7 was led by jihadists. Raad Hamas' charter, there's NO ambiguity.
Fascinating interview!
This is a great interview - except I wish the Interviewer would stop interrupting the speaker. Let him speak!!
Poor soul
One of the most insightful interviews I've ever seen
He's indoctrinated.
He's telling you something your own media are obscuring: that these people are fanatical sectarian religionists. Who's indoctrinated....?
I think his point is that by talking to his captors he can be a source to understand them and their motives. No person is a syndrome. Ac a cancer survivor I
get his acceptance and joie de vivre.
18:15 Now thats not true at all. And that same thing is often done to them in those types of schools they go to as young boys.
Theo, you’re an inspiration
Oh sh1t. I didnt know hts was al nusra. This probably isnt going to turn out well. Unless there was some severe change in attitude about the other factions. I know the ketader says there us, but that group crasles people who do very, very bad things. Its hard to see hiw they can be trusted to not install their own extremist g 't.
Does the levant include Iraq?
Does this make you an “Assad toadie”? Asking for Bari
Trying to understand is not allowed
What a story! I cannot believe this man went on his own 😢