Finally a digital synth worth purchasing. And the price. I would have gone with the Montage (because of the 4 analog outputs) but the MoDX is 1/2 the price for 98% of the synth. I will just have to use the 10 USB outputs. I am looking forward to hearing more about your comparison to the Montage. For the MoDX to be less than 1/2 the price Yamaha must of cut out lots of good stuff like power transformers, keyboard quality, case quality.
Yeah man, it's crazy, so far it really looks like things such as build quality, the amount of flash ram, controls, polyphony, aftertouch, etc. But as far as the synth engine itself, it is practically the same. And the size is so much smaller than the Montage as well. Don't get me wrong, I love the Montage, and prefer it, as I'm so used to it at this point, but I think the MODX will be a very popular synth and I wouldn't be upset with having it if I didn't have a Montage. I'm sure there will be more that I find different but for the price, I they have a winner.
I have a montage 6 which has an excellent keybed but is a bit heavy for carrying around, and I tried out a modx6 at a store, I have to say the keybed on the modx 6 is really not good at all, to the point where iI feel it's not really useable as a musical instrument, the sounds are great but the keybed is really poor, like the mx or roland FA 6 or some cheap midi controller. Never mind all the comparisons, if the keybed on the instrument is not up to par then whats the point in going any further. As far as I can tell all these kind of rompler/synth boards from all makers in this price range have poor quality keybeds with no aftertouch. Such a shame.
It also has rhythm..which the Montage does not have, and apparently..a matrix that interprets a beat by what you're playing. If true, that's dope. Montage was just too much synth for me. Wanted it, but the price was a very strong deterrent. This one, I got. A pretty legitimate, hi tech synth, for half the price of Montage. I got the 61, because it's super compact, but still very powerful, at a very reasonable price. I compared the stats side by side to Montage and technically, they are much closer than one would think given the price difference I've researched the hell out of this synth, and in my view, it's a superior value. I can't justify the price difference. That being said, if I was really commercial, I'd have both. But for now, this is way more than enough. I love it..understandably scaled down, but the power is still there.
Yeah, it's a great synth man! Yeah it has a dedicated button for the rhythm section, and a few other things the Montage doesn't, even simple things like a USB volume knob lol. I'm going to have fun comparing and seeing what all the differences are. Congrats on the purchase, definitely keep me posted as you learn it in terms of tips and tricks you find or things you are enjoying about it!
@@SoundsAndGear Word, I watched Bo' Beats video on it, does a very nice job of getting into it, and revealed it's depth. He says it's a "massive synth". And from what I've seen, have to agree. Mine should arrive tomorrow. Yamaha has failed to get me excited since the Moxf, with anything. I was immediately on board with this. For nearly a year, I wanted somethin' "like" Montage but, nothing captured me. When I saw how they got that 61 crammed in there..it was like POW! Exactly..what I wanted. Going to make some interesting soundscapes with that super knob.
Dope video bro! Love the look of this. Motif ES is still going strong over here... would love to get my hands on those Montage sounds. Interested to get your take on the DAW implementation once you dive in...
Thanks bro! On these the DAW integration is mainly audio in/out, and on the Montage you have DAW remote control. They don't have a plugin like the Motif one, they have a control software but it's not an editor like how the Motif one was. The plus side is all the Motif sounds are here as well, and it they are compatible with all the Motif libraries lol. But I know you like racks :)
Ahh understood. I really wish they would bring back something like the Motif plugin editor with studio recall. I always thought that was way ahead of it's time being able to control everything on the Motif and save all settings in the plugin with any session. They stopped supporting it and doesn't work in 64 bit DAWs :( either way, this could be a nice main controller keyboard plus having access to montage sounds which I personally think the yamaha workstation sounds are second to none. Looking forward to seeing more of your content on this.... and yes bro, still dreaming of a new montage rack with all those great sounds and a plugin editor 😎
I appreciate the video! How do you feel like it compares in terms of sounds to software? I'm just getting back into music after years of not doing much. I've got Komplete and am looking for a keyboard now. I was debating buying a true midi controller like the Arturia KeyLab MK2 49 or a MODX or MX workstation that actually adds more sounds as well. I know they're different animals but what are your thoughts on some of the acoustic instruments like brass, strings, EPs, etc. in the MODX/MX vs Komplete and a midi keyboard?
I'm a hardware guy, I like the immediate interaction you can get with hardware, however, I do think software sounds great and many times can be a bit more detailed depending on the sound. That said...I don't think you can go wrong with a nice keyboard, especially since most have USB and can act as MIDI controllers as well.
Let us hear the difference in the AD input convertors. Plug the montage into the MODX and let us hear. Then Plug the MODX into the Montage and let us hear. Use same preset piano to test.
You're still going to be hearing the output of each unit as the input goes through the DA/Output in the end. I already plan to plug the MODX into the Montage to see what it sounds like coming out of the Montage, if it sounds any different, or you can tell the difference between them through the same output.
@@SoundsAndGear The Montage and the MODX have the same DACs. Output quality will be the same. The MODX ADCs are not as good as the Montage's. Its this that I want you to test.
Montage has the "Pure Analog Circuit", which the MODX doesn' t have. It's this output stage that is proposed as being different between them. The Montage is promoted as outputing a more clear, rich, harmonic reproduction of sound. I want to see if it changes anything in how the MODX sounds.
I know this a very late post but how big of an upgrade is this from the moxf? I I have the MOXF6 but recently gave it to my daughter as she’s taking up piano as well. So I’m in search for a new one
Very nice! About to upgrade from the MX61. I use the wheels a lot and that’s key in the genre I play so I’m skeptical about the upwards location. I know it sounds silly but it matters to me. Because of that, I’m also considering the MOXF6. What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks for watching! I definitely prefer having the wheels on the side as opposed to up higher, really something you'd have to play to see what you think.
dude just keep the motif you can just buy and download the CFX sound just buy it online at the Yamahamusicsoft.com You can get your stuff there trust me. You can even find better sounds then the Montage. Keep your Motif XF8. The MODX doesn’t have a good Keybed. Or just get the new Yamaha CP88 it has all the piano sounds of the Montage but just keep your Motif tho
I have a MODX7 & MX88, now let's ignore the FMX engine for a bit, the AWM2 sounds to me are pretty much the same but it's the editability is much better on the MODX, but with both AWM2 & FMX together I think the MODX is very versatile.
i have a Montage 7 and i'm thinking of buying the MODX8 (it's lighter and has a weighted keybed). I'm curious about if it is any sound difference between them (due to the converters) and the thing that i'm really curious is if i can use the 8 part performances i make on my Montage on the MODX ( i've read that only four parts have seamless sound switching on the MODX, but i'll be careful when playing). Thanks for the tutorials too i'm glad i found your channel. :)
The 8 parts should be fine as long as you keep in mind the SSS, I hadn't heard of that limit to 4 parts but if you seen that and are already aware you should be fine. I know library/perf wise they load the same things. If you have a specific performance you want me to test hit me up and I can try it for you.
Jayasurya .p.s. You can have up to 8 parts simultaneously under keyboard control, and an additional 8 parts MIDI controlled through your DAW. You can set the note range of each part and split/layer the keyboard any way you like. Extremely flexible. You can mix the parts and fade them in and out using the faders manually. Additionally, you can have multiple assignable parameters on each part, and control them all at once with the super knob. For instance, you could have the performance start as a solo piano and have reverb depth increase on the piano, and have the pad and bass fade in as you increase the knob. You can even get wild with some effects at the top end. There are so many possibilities.
I’m a Little confused how you would use this in a DAW, since there is no sequencer like the older motifs, do I just have to record one track at a time into logic or ProTools ,via Midi, or can I use it as 16 part sound set coming from the synth
I'd say it feels similar to a MIDI controller, very light and plastic feeling. Of course that's the idea behind it, where the Montage is Aluminum Alloy, this one is plastic making it lighter and with less controls to make it smaller.
I have both (MOTIF and MOXF) .....and YEAAAAAAAH...ur right maaaaaan!!! MOXF have a smaller non color screen!! PD: But maaaaan....why montage and modx does´t have a buitl in SEQUENCER!!!!
Yeah, I hear ya on the sequencer man. The Montage (and MODX) aren't workstations like the Motif series, they are more performance synths, they ship with Cubase for sequencing. I know that was a big question when the Montage first came out but by the time I got my hands on one I understood what it was so I just approached it like a sound module/synth and not an all in one piece.
Be a lamb and tell me something. Can you tell me if you can connect these (I have a Montage 7) to a Rodgers organ at church and play all of the Montage's sounds through the midi of the organ? Thanks so much!
If your organ has MIDI output, you can plug that into the MIDI in of your Montage and trigger it. I don't know your setup or the organ but if it can send MIDI you can control anything that receives MIDI.
Hey bro, I'm really close to getting Modx6, but I wanna know if i can create my own drum Tracks from scratch on this. I don't see a pattern mode to create drum tracks like on the other keyboards. I do understand this is not a workstation but a synthesizer. And most workstations have this function. If it can be done please make video. Thanks
There are no pattern tracks on here, I'm not sure if you can use the arp to make custom drum patterns or not, but there's definitely not a pattern sequencer.
OK SO I WONT NEED A PATTERN SEQUENCER IF I HOOK THAT UP TO MY MPC TOUCH AND JUST PLAYED THE SOUNDS LIVE INT IT THREW MIDI IM THINKING IF SO THEN GETTING THIS KEYBOARD WOULD BE A GO BECAUSE I JUST WANT TI FOR THE SOUNDS,THE OF THE MONTAGE AND IF THIS HAS IT THAT A DO MY MPC HAS POWERFUL DRUMS SO I DONT NED IT FOR THAT.WHAT DO YOU THINK? and sorry about the caps@@SoundsAndGear
Thanks for watching. I think transpose would be a function of the connected keyboard and not so much the MODX, as you'd just be setting which notes to send from your external keyboard. I do not think it would actually change the notes you play from the MODX itself.
Sounds like you said built in interface ...which is appealing Yamaha always sounds better than anything else...and the flashing drink holder is a deal closer for me.
The pulsing light on the knob can either have the tempo pulsing disabled or just turn the light off completely. I’d be hard pressed to turn down a keyboard for one aesthetic choice I found displeasing though.
It's a shame all these videos don't show how noisy the keys are, Yamaha offered to take my board in and get oiled? Yes they said oiled. But I decided to live with it and just turn up my headphone volume, didn't want to be without it, it's so good.
@@SoundsAndGear it's just me listening out for it for the most part. Just bought a sustain pedal for it, an a absolute must for anyone if you ask me. 👍👍
Lots of hardware has firmware available after it ships, products are manufactured months ahead of time once they are stable but firmware and OS is constantly improved or expanded. With the Montage/MODX, they have very frequent firmware updates they are constantly evolving the platform which is why I dig it.
I never used the Motif XF but I'd probably pick it personally because I'd imagine the keybed and build quality would be a bit better. However, MODX has a touch screen and the FMX engine, so it really depends on what type of sounds and functionality you want. I'm mainly into these type of boards for their instruments more than the synth side of it, but I do like having both on the Montage/MODX.
Mmmmm. It's strange how many people wrongly call it MOD-X... even folks who should know better! It is MO-DX (Motif+DX7-expanded engine). I just got a MO-DX7 and I'm amazed at how vast its abilities are. It's important to understand scenes and assign 1 and 2 buttons. Lots of good stuff happens there. Thanks for the video.
Good vid bro. Yea i really wasn't diggin it myself. I went up to guitar center yesterday initially to buy the 6 but was turned off immediately by how cheap it felt. It sounds good & is nice to look at but after laying my hands on it i wasn't all that impressed with it after thumbing through all the sounds. So I ended up going home with omnisphere2 instead lol
Thanks for watching fam! Yeah, I feel you, it def has a different build quality than the Montage, but for those mainly looking for the sounds and synth engines I think it is a great alternative if you know what you're getting going in. As always, the best thing to do is try for yourself, this definitely will not be for everyone!
The plastics do feel like a slight step down from the MOXF. I feel like if they at least put some soft touch pitch and mod wheels instead of the cheap plastic ones from the MX series it would improve the feel significantly. $1300 still isn’t THAT inexpensive lol. I also feel like they used the same keys from the MX this time because the MOXF keys felt better if I recall. They might have had to cut it down even more than before because they opted to keep the touch screen as is, and it has more memory, more expensive electronics than the MOXF at the same price.
Alan Chapman The MOXF 8 keys feel much better than the MODX 8 I’m telling you the truth. I have the Montage 8 personally and it is nuts but...if you want a MODX get a MODX if you want a nice Keybed get an FA 08
@@tuneunleashed Nice, I have a Montage 8 too since 2016. Traded a few other keyboards to get it. I love that thing. Already starting to have some of the keys getting slow/muddy response when pressed though.
Alan Chapman Hey brother if that happens it’s either you don’t have a dust cover and always clean your keys!!! 😆😆 Get a dust cover and clean your piano keys with carbon fiber cloths once a week at least.
Reface isn’t the past. How many people were walking around with portable authentic sounding Rhodes, Wurlys, Clavs, and CPs in one keyboard? Or a DX that could be programmed easily with touch controls, a convincing analog modeled polysynth or organs? Personally, I don’t know what the benefit would be to not include all the AWM2 sounds and engine. Is there an advantage to only having FM-X? Maybe an FM-X module that’s only got the programming controls sold for under $500 would be appealing.
Bought one and returned ASAP for modx8 because of the extremely plastic and fragile key bed on the modx6 an 7. Not worth the $1400 and $1700 US $. Save and get the x8.
I was considering one of these until I played it in the store. Feels like a toy or a magnus chord organ. Junk key bed. I was pretty surprised being Yamaha and all. I have a couple of 88 key controller boards, but still really turned off by the bed enough to rule it out. Now considering the MODX8. I don't understand why the designers/engineers at Yamaha would make such garbage and ruin a fairly nice little board.
@@SoundsAndGear which is cool yet silly. If you dont own a midi keyboard with aftertouch but want the Modx... You also have to buy a keyboard with aftertouch as well. Double deal breaker
Everybody has an opinion but I heavily disagree with you my friend. You can’t compare a Juno Ds to a Montage which is the best performance synth on the market hands down
Maybe you skipped the title? I mentioned nothing about this being a demo, instruction manual, or a video showing how the synth works. It is me sharing my first opinion on the synth. Thanks for watching though :)
@@SoundsAndGear titles sometime do not explain everything on the video and many titles sometime show other different things and generally speaking even specified title repeat most common things about keyboard that beginners or intermediate already know and do not explain the capacity what a keyboard can do and how it works, always playing some sounds or playing style ect. Sorry if i said something to upset you but my comment was general as i could said for other video as well.
Not upset at all. I'm just responding to your comment. My video is what the title says, me sharing my first impression of this synth. It isn't a demo, a review, or an explanation of features. It is me sharing my initial thoughts after plugging it up, specifically compared to the Montage in terms of layout, build quality, etc. Thanks.
@@SoundsAndGear I love to see more depth on tutorial because sometimes manual are confusing and difficult to understand. Example a demonstration how to create a style intro on an arranger.....or create a pad from scratch
I hear ya, I have other videos on the engine (workflow is same as Montage) based on different questions I got while I had it. I haven't covered everything though and no longer have the synth.
@@SoundsAndGear The effects cover and mask the real piano sound coming from the Modx. It sounds good. But it's a small sample quality compared to a 6gb Native Instruments Alecia Keys piano or a 6gb German Grand in a Korg Krome for $999
Cool. I never messed with the KORG boards personally, I really don't get caught up in the sample size, programming can do wonders with small samples. But I've heard great things about the Korg piano also.
You can turn off the beep in the Utility screen > Settings > System > Beep.
Yeah I ended up finding it after looking at the Montage again, not sure how I overlooked it in the video but it's in the same place LOL
Nice demo. I'm impressed with mine. The damper sound on the Piano sustain pedal blows me away. They got it perfect.
Thanks for watching!
Finally a digital synth worth purchasing. And the price. I would have gone with the Montage (because of the 4 analog outputs) but the MoDX is 1/2 the price for 98% of the synth. I will just have to use the 10 USB outputs. I am looking forward to hearing more about your comparison to the Montage. For the MoDX to be less than 1/2 the price Yamaha must of cut out lots of good stuff like power transformers, keyboard quality, case quality.
Yeah man, it's crazy, so far it really looks like things such as build quality, the amount of flash ram, controls, polyphony, aftertouch, etc. But as far as the synth engine itself, it is practically the same. And the size is so much smaller than the Montage as well. Don't get me wrong, I love the Montage, and prefer it, as I'm so used to it at this point, but I think the MODX will be a very popular synth and I wouldn't be upset with having it if I didn't have a Montage. I'm sure there will be more that I find different but for the price, I they have a winner.
I have a montage 6 which has an excellent keybed but is a bit heavy for carrying around, and I tried out a modx6 at a store, I have to say the keybed on the modx 6 is really not good at all, to the point where iI feel it's not really useable as a musical instrument, the sounds are great but the keybed is really poor, like the mx or roland FA 6 or some cheap midi controller. Never mind all the comparisons, if the keybed on the instrument is not up to par then whats the point in going any further. As far as I can tell all these kind of rompler/synth boards from all makers in this price range have poor quality keybeds with no aftertouch. Such a shame.
Agreed. I wish they could do a kick ass module. Bring back the modules
Keybed is definitely not the same as the Montage I agree
What’s wrong with it other than not having aftertouch? Personally, I prefer having it assigned to a pedal anyways
You're still around? GOOD. Your videos on music gear are great!
Keep it up.
Yep, still around, thanks for watching!
It also has rhythm..which the Montage does not have, and apparently..a matrix that interprets a beat by what you're playing. If true, that's dope. Montage was just too much synth for me. Wanted it, but the price was a very strong deterrent. This one, I got. A pretty legitimate, hi tech synth, for half the price of Montage. I got the 61, because it's super compact, but still very powerful, at a very reasonable price. I compared the stats side by side to Montage and technically, they are much closer than one would think given the price difference I've researched the hell out of this synth, and in my view, it's a superior value. I can't justify the price difference. That being said, if I was really commercial, I'd have both. But for now, this is way more than enough. I love it..understandably scaled down, but the power is still there.
Yeah, it's a great synth man! Yeah it has a dedicated button for the rhythm section, and a few other things the Montage doesn't, even simple things like a USB volume knob lol. I'm going to have fun comparing and seeing what all the differences are. Congrats on the purchase, definitely keep me posted as you learn it in terms of tips and tricks you find or things you are enjoying about it!
@@SoundsAndGear
Word, I watched Bo' Beats video on it, does a very nice job of getting into it, and revealed it's depth. He says it's a "massive synth". And from what I've seen, have to agree. Mine should arrive tomorrow. Yamaha has failed to get me excited since the Moxf, with anything. I was immediately on board with this. For nearly a year, I wanted somethin' "like" Montage but, nothing captured me. When I saw how they got that 61 crammed in there..it was like POW! Exactly..what I wanted. Going to make some interesting soundscapes with that super knob.
Yes indeed!
I'm in the same boat, I badly wanted a Montage but after seeing this one I am grabbing it ASAP. For the price you can't beat it.
@@zenmasta1260 It's a great deal for sure!
Dope video bro! Love the look of this. Motif ES is still going strong over here... would love to get my hands on those Montage sounds. Interested to get your take on the DAW implementation once you dive in...
Thanks bro! On these the DAW integration is mainly audio in/out, and on the Montage you have DAW remote control. They don't have a plugin like the Motif one, they have a control software but it's not an editor like how the Motif one was. The plus side is all the Motif sounds are here as well, and it they are compatible with all the Motif libraries lol. But I know you like racks :)
Ahh understood. I really wish they would bring back something like the Motif plugin editor with studio recall. I always thought that was way ahead of it's time being able to control everything on the Motif and save all settings in the plugin with any session. They stopped supporting it and doesn't work in 64 bit DAWs :( either way, this could be a nice main controller keyboard plus having access to montage sounds which I personally think the yamaha workstation sounds are second to none. Looking forward to seeing more of your content on this.... and yes bro, still dreaming of a new montage rack with all those great sounds and a plugin editor 😎
I feel you bro! Lol
Great video, I have a montage 8 and will be purchasing a MODX6 for the times I travel. You answered a lot of questions I had.
Thanks for watching! Nice, I think it would be perfect for that, it seems like it will travel well! It is super light!
Differences within the modx6 over the modx6+?
not sure
Does the MODX6 sounds thinner than the MOXF6? Which piano can cut through the band/mix better?
Haven't used the MOX in years so I can't comment on how they compare to each other. I'm sure either could get the job done though.
I appreciate the video! How do you feel like it compares in terms of sounds to software? I'm just getting back into music after years of not doing much. I've got Komplete and am looking for a keyboard now. I was debating buying a true midi controller like the Arturia KeyLab MK2 49 or a MODX or MX workstation that actually adds more sounds as well. I know they're different animals but what are your thoughts on some of the acoustic instruments like brass, strings, EPs, etc. in the MODX/MX vs Komplete and a midi keyboard?
I'm a hardware guy, I like the immediate interaction you can get with hardware, however, I do think software sounds great and many times can be a bit more detailed depending on the sound. That said...I don't think you can go wrong with a nice keyboard, especially since most have USB and can act as MIDI controllers as well.
Let us hear the difference in the AD input convertors. Plug the montage into the MODX and let us hear. Then Plug the MODX into the Montage and let us hear. Use same preset piano to test.
You're still going to be hearing the output of each unit as the input goes through the DA/Output in the end. I already plan to plug the MODX into the Montage to see what it sounds like coming out of the Montage, if it sounds any different, or you can tell the difference between them through the same output.
@@SoundsAndGear The Montage and the MODX have the same DACs. Output quality will be the same. The MODX ADCs are not as good as the Montage's. Its this that I want you to test.
Montage has the "Pure Analog Circuit", which the MODX doesn' t have. It's this output stage that is proposed as being different between them. The Montage is promoted as outputing a more clear, rich, harmonic reproduction of sound. I want to see if it changes anything in how the MODX sounds.
I know this a very late post but how big of an upgrade is this from the moxf? I I have the MOXF6 but recently gave it to my daughter as she’s taking up piano as well. So I’m in search for a new one
I'm not sure, I never used an XF
Very nice! About to upgrade from the MX61. I use the wheels a lot and that’s key in the genre I play so I’m skeptical about the upwards location. I know it sounds silly but it matters to me. Because of that, I’m also considering the MOXF6. What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks for watching! I definitely prefer having the wheels on the side as opposed to up higher, really something you'd have to play to see what you think.
I love mine! Dope video!
Nice, thanks for watching!
The new V3.0 update brings a Pattern Sequencer to the ModX!
Yeah I saw, pretty cool!
Does the MODX have the same sound library as the montage or is the sound library cut down too?
It is the same library
Thanks for the review. great help.
Thanks for watching!
I have a Motif XF8. If I get the MODX, is the Motif Worth keeping or should I sell it?
You'd have to be the judge, they will probably have a different sound overall, different build, features (motif has sequencer, etc)
dude just keep the motif you can just buy and download the CFX sound just buy it online at the Yamahamusicsoft.com
You can get your stuff there trust me. You can even find better sounds then the Montage. Keep your Motif XF8. The MODX doesn’t have a good Keybed. Or just get the new Yamaha CP88 it has all the piano sounds of the Montage but just keep your Motif tho
Is the sounds cut off easily when we change preset?
Not sure what you mean.
Hi, does it work like an Arranger. Ie, with the same beats and backing instruments (no change), lead voice can be changed?
It's not really an arranger type of instrument, but has a basic sequencer in it ruclips.net/video/alTBPfkUTLU/видео.html
No, this is not an arranger. For that you can go for the Genos; if you want something a little less expensive, take a look at the Korg PA4X.
If you do any editing Are you able to save the presets?
Yeah you can save your edited sounds as well as make your own from scratch.
Can I use this for talkboxing ?
Not sure, I don't talkbox so not something I tried.
Is there any sound Editor like for the Xs/XF, for ipad?
Not sure
I have a MODX7 & MX88, now let's ignore the FMX engine for a bit, the AWM2 sounds to me are pretty much the same but it's the editability is much better on the MODX, but with both AWM2 & FMX together I think the MODX is very versatile.
Cool! Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback. Yeah MODX is really versatile for sure.
Does it allow you to load FM tines, MKSensation and Rhodes Affair directly into the keyboard?
I dont' know of those libraries are compatible, I didn't try it.
Yes
Subscribed :) Wainting for Montage comparison :)
Thanks for watching, any particular area of interest?
i have a Montage 7 and i'm thinking of buying the MODX8 (it's lighter and has a weighted keybed). I'm curious about if it is any sound difference between them (due to the converters) and the thing that i'm really curious is if i can use the 8 part performances i make on my Montage on the MODX ( i've read that only four parts have seamless sound switching on the MODX, but i'll be careful when playing). Thanks for the tutorials too i'm glad i found your channel. :)
The 8 parts should be fine as long as you keep in mind the SSS, I hadn't heard of that limit to 4 parts but if you seen that and are already aware you should be fine.
I know library/perf wise they load the same things. If you have a specific performance you want me to test hit me up and I can try it for you.
I want piano and layer a warm dark pad..And split bass voice...3 at same time...Is this Good for me..?
You should be able to do it but I'm not sure I haven't setup a split on it personally.
Jayasurya .p.s. You can have up to 8 parts simultaneously under keyboard control, and an additional 8 parts MIDI controlled through your DAW. You can set the note range of each part and split/layer the keyboard any way you like. Extremely flexible. You can mix the parts and fade them in and out using the faders manually. Additionally, you can have multiple assignable parameters on each part, and control them all at once with the super knob. For instance, you could have the performance start as a solo piano and have reverb depth increase on the piano, and have the pad and bass fade in as you increase the knob. You can even get wild with some effects at the top end. There are so many possibilities.
@@Alan_Chapman thanks man!
What's the different between moxf and modx??
Different engines. XF based on Motif, MODX based on Montage
Great video. Are the keys weighted or semi weighted?
Thanks for watching! They are not weighted keys.
Is that having octave shifting options???
Yeah you can shift the octave for lower or higher notes
Does the sound cutts off while playing live gigs while switching sounds
I don't remember if this one has the smooth patch transition or not, I no longer have it to test it.
You can, but only Sounds with max 4 tracks/parts.
@@gino9010 Ahh yeah, that was the limitation, thanks!
Can we sample in modx?
It isn't a sampler (recorder) but you can load samples
How many layers of sound you can add? up to 8 or 16?
Up to 8 layers.
I’m a Little confused how you would use this in a DAW, since there is no sequencer like the older motifs, do I just have to record one track at a time into logic or ProTools ,via Midi, or can I use it as 16 part sound set coming from the synth
You can hook it up via USB/Midi and sequence multiple tracks. Or you can record audio directly into your daw.
SoundsAndGear thank you 🙏🏽
@@JacobAndJamal No problem
I was going to ask you about the build. how does it feel to you? strong or not.
I'd say it feels similar to a MIDI controller, very light and plastic feeling. Of course that's the idea behind it, where the Montage is Aluminum Alloy, this one is plastic making it lighter and with less controls to make it smaller.
I feel you. for me I would worry about it breaking if I took it somewhere.
I don't think so, it's made for portability/gigging
Ok. cool. I just wondered about that.
MOTIF XF DOESN¨T HAVE TOUCH SCREEEEEN MAAAAN!!!!
thanks....great video...have a nice day!!
Maaaaaan that big color screen wasn't touch? Lol. Well the Moxf had a smaller non color screen for sure.
I have both (MOTIF and MOXF) .....and YEAAAAAAAH...ur right maaaaaan!!! MOXF have a smaller non color screen!!
PD: But maaaaan....why montage and modx does´t have a buitl in SEQUENCER!!!!
Yeah, I hear ya on the sequencer man. The Montage (and MODX) aren't workstations like the Motif series, they are more performance synths, they ship with Cubase for sequencing. I know that was a big question when the Montage first came out but by the time I got my hands on one I understood what it was so I just approached it like a sound module/synth and not an all in one piece.
I am just waiting to get one from somebody for a day.......I WILL SAMPLE THE NEW SOUNDS . Then load it to my XF and MOXF....yeaaaaah maaaaaan!!!
Hahahaha, word!
Hi thanks for quick overview. As you have Montage too, are the MODX Presets exactly same as the Montage?? Best.
From what I can tell so far, the presets are indeed the same.
Happy for you ;) ! How do you like the motion sequences to program and use in the factory presets?
They work the same as one the Montage, the modulation system is super powerful yet easy to use, so much fun to experiment with.
Did you mention the montage ?
Mention it for what?
Be a lamb and tell me something. Can you tell me if you can connect these (I have a Montage 7) to a Rodgers organ at church and play all of the Montage's sounds through the midi of the organ? Thanks so much!
If your organ has MIDI output, you can plug that into the MIDI in of your Montage and trigger it. I don't know your setup or the organ but if it can send MIDI you can control anything that receives MIDI.
Where is it made?
I don't know.
China
Does it have a sequencer?
Yeah it has a basic sequencer on it ruclips.net/video/alTBPfkUTLU/видео.html
Does it have smooth sound transition?
I mean... when we change a preset, is the sound interrupted?
Yes, but only with performances that have up to 4 parts. On the Montage this works with performances with up to 8 parts.
apparently not but this answer is 2 years late
Do you get a voice list for Cubase?
Not sure, I am not a Cubase user so haven't checked it.
Yo what was the sound at 4:45 you used?
I don't remember
@@SoundsAndGear no worries
Hey bro, I'm really close to getting Modx6, but I wanna know if i can create my own drum Tracks from scratch on this. I don't see a pattern mode to create drum tracks like on the other keyboards. I do understand this is not a workstation but a synthesizer.
And most workstations have this function. If it can be done please make video. Thanks
There are no pattern tracks on here, I'm not sure if you can use the arp to make custom drum patterns or not, but there's definitely not a pattern sequencer.
OK SO I WONT NEED A PATTERN SEQUENCER IF I HOOK THAT UP TO MY MPC TOUCH AND JUST PLAYED THE SOUNDS LIVE INT IT THREW MIDI IM THINKING IF SO THEN GETTING THIS KEYBOARD WOULD BE A GO BECAUSE I JUST WANT TI FOR THE SOUNDS,THE OF THE MONTAGE AND IF THIS HAS IT THAT A DO MY MPC HAS POWERFUL DRUMS SO I DONT NED IT FOR THAT.WHAT DO YOU THINK? and sorry about the caps@@SoundsAndGear
@@Mrmvp9 Yeah, I use them as sound modules as well I don't use the sequencer on there.
i saw the specs it says 128 polyphony,is it only 64?
The FMX engine is only 64, the AWM2 still has 128 like the MOntage
Thx for info and video. Can it receive transpose (instead of using shift+transpose on interface) by MIDI from other keyboard?
Thanks for watching. I think transpose would be a function of the connected keyboard and not so much the MODX, as you'd just be setting which notes to send from your external keyboard. I do not think it would actually change the notes you play from the MODX itself.
Good sounds .........and super syntheszer
Thanks for watching!
Sounds like you said built in interface ...which is appealing Yamaha always sounds better than anything else...and the flashing drink holder is a deal closer for me.
Yeah lol, it works as an interface
The pulsing light on the knob can either have the tempo pulsing disabled or just turn the light off completely. I’d be hard pressed to turn down a keyboard for one aesthetic choice I found displeasing though.
Can I assign voices to the sliders like on the motifs?
Yeah you can control the parts with the sliders
@@SoundsAndGear how do u assign the voices to the sliders
@@realtroyo The parts are assigned to the sliders automatically. You control them in part/performance control mode.
It's a shame all these videos don't show how noisy the keys are, Yamaha offered to take my board in and get oiled? Yes they said oiled. But I decided to live with it and just turn up my headphone volume, didn't want to be without it, it's so good.
I didn't have a problem with noisy keys but that sucks
@@SoundsAndGear it's just me listening out for it for the most part. Just bought a sustain pedal for it, an a absolute must for anyone if you ask me. 👍👍
Nice
Can u add the performances from moxf to modx?
Yeah it is compatible with all of the same formats as Montage, including motif xf, xs, and moxf
so if I made a beat with the another Yamaha I could pull that beat up on thE MODX?
@@SoundsAndGear
@@Mrmvp9 I'm not sure how the sequences would work on the Montage though, so you'd have to double check on the Yamaha site first.
Can I ask why, straight out of the box, you have to do a firmware update ?
Lots of hardware has firmware available after it ships, products are manufactured months ahead of time once they are stable but firmware and OS is constantly improved or expanded. With the Montage/MODX, they have very frequent firmware updates they are constantly evolving the platform which is why I dig it.
Looks like a bargain for certain musicians (oh changed name from inky blue....seems wrong as I got pink hair...and inky was a cats name lol)
Yeah, it really is. Ahahahahaha, thanks for the update LOL I recognized the profile pic though :)
@@SoundsAndGear channel started by accident, wanted to change..but stuck ..so think... Patch baying it up slowly😉
Ahahahaha lol
in your opinion, its better motif XF6 or MODX6?
I never used the Motif XF but I'd probably pick it personally because I'd imagine the keybed and build quality would be a bit better. However, MODX has a touch screen and the FMX engine, so it really depends on what type of sounds and functionality you want. I'm mainly into these type of boards for their instruments more than the synth side of it, but I do like having both on the Montage/MODX.
It's 'Mo'-DX, because it's Mo DX than you could ever ask for...
Yeah, got it right after a few days lol
Mmmmm. It's strange how many people wrongly call it MOD-X... even folks who should know better! It is MO-DX (Motif+DX7-expanded engine). I just got a MO-DX7 and I'm amazed at how vast its abilities are. It's important to understand scenes and assign 1 and 2 buttons. Lots of good stuff happens there. Thanks for the video.
Can u make a video on only the sounds
I'll be doing more vids, I have some on the Montage sounds already also.
Sound comparison with the montage would be very interesting.
Will definitely be some of that.
Nice demo, please do the converters test
Definitely plan to do so, need to research a bit more to see if they are referring to the output or the input stages.
Good vid bro. Yea i really wasn't diggin it myself. I went up to guitar center yesterday initially to buy the 6 but was turned off immediately by how cheap it felt. It sounds good & is nice to look at but after laying my hands on it i wasn't all that impressed with it after thumbing through all the sounds. So I ended up going home with omnisphere2 instead lol
Thanks for watching fam! Yeah, I feel you, it def has a different build quality than the Montage, but for those mainly looking for the sounds and synth engines I think it is a great alternative if you know what you're getting going in. As always, the best thing to do is try for yourself, this definitely will not be for everyone!
The plastics do feel like a slight step down from the MOXF. I feel like if they at least put some soft touch pitch and mod wheels instead of the cheap plastic ones from the MX series it would improve the feel significantly. $1300 still isn’t THAT inexpensive lol. I also feel like they used the same keys from the MX this time because the MOXF keys felt better if I recall. They might have had to cut it down even more than before because they opted to keep the touch screen as is, and it has more memory, more expensive electronics than the MOXF at the same price.
Alan Chapman The MOXF 8 keys feel much better than the MODX 8 I’m telling you the truth. I have the Montage 8 personally and it is nuts but...if you want a MODX get a MODX if you want a nice Keybed get an FA 08
@@tuneunleashed Nice, I have a Montage 8 too since 2016. Traded a few other keyboards to get it. I love that thing. Already starting to have some of the keys getting slow/muddy response when pressed though.
Alan Chapman Hey brother if that happens it’s either you don’t have a dust cover and always clean your keys!!! 😆😆 Get a dust cover and clean your piano keys with carbon fiber cloths once a week at least.
I meant low quality keybed. The engine exactly as the montage.
Thanks for watching
I still wish they would just a FMX only based synth.
Lots of people do, wonder if they ever will do that.
@@SoundsAndGear I spoke to Yamaha about this and they said "Yamaha doesn't live in the past." which is kind of ironic considering their reface line.
Hmmmm lol, strange answer since fmx is the "current" lol and yeah...reface hahaha
Reface isn’t the past. How many people were walking around with portable authentic sounding Rhodes, Wurlys, Clavs, and CPs in one keyboard? Or a DX that could be programmed easily with touch controls, a convincing analog modeled polysynth or organs? Personally, I don’t know what the benefit would be to not include all the AWM2 sounds and engine. Is there an advantage to only having FM-X? Maybe an FM-X module that’s only got the programming controls sold for under $500 would be appealing.
It's "Moe Dee Ex" according to Yamaha's website. Wonder if it plays "Go See The Doctor" ;)
Yep, figured it out lol. Thanks for watching!
Hello How Much
The 61 key is 1299 retail.
Bought one and returned ASAP for modx8 because of the extremely plastic and fragile key bed on the modx6 an 7. Not worth the $1400 and $1700 US $. Save and get the x8.
I hear ya, definitely depends on what you're looking for. Keybed on the Montage is much better, haven't tried the MODX8.
talk talk talk!!!
That's literally what the video title says, my thoughts and impressions LOL. Leave, leave, leave!! LOL.
Aside from LOW quality keyboard…amazing substitute for the pricey montage. But highly recommend the 8.
Yeah, the keyboard is definitely not on the level of the Montage, but depending on what you're going for, it can get the job done.
MODX 8 already :-)
LOL
I was considering one of these until I played it in the store. Feels like a toy or a magnus chord organ. Junk key bed. I was pretty surprised being Yamaha and all. I have a couple of 88 key controller boards, but still really turned off by the bed enough to rule it out. Now considering the MODX8. I don't understand why the designers/engineers at Yamaha would make such garbage and ruin a fairly nice little board.
Yep, the keybed is definitely not the best. That was the intention though, more affordable, portable, etc. The Montage keybed is great though.
Since everyone is wining about the keybed,is it possible to exchange it for a better one.
I wish the xf was a touch screen
I hear ya!
get to know something before you talk about it !!!
Read the title before you watch a video, or turn it off LOL.
....and no Atfer Touch. Deal Breaker.
Yep, no aftertouch, but it seems the parameter itself is actually available for modulation, maybe from an external board?
@@SoundsAndGear which is cool yet silly. If you dont own a midi keyboard with aftertouch but want the Modx... You also have to buy a keyboard with aftertouch as well. Double deal breaker
Yeah I hear ya, still has a super powerful engine though, I know for some aftertouch is a must, it's definitely not the same keybed as the Montage.
@@SoundsAndGear yeah. They pobably skipped it to say that if you want the aftertouch buy a montage. They have to sell those anyway.
Yeah, gotta keep some sort of difference there, I still think it is a great option.
Juno ds88 is better
Cool, thanks for watching.
Not nearly as sexy though
Everybody has an opinion but I heavily disagree with you my friend. You can’t compare a Juno Ds to a Montage which is the best performance synth on the market hands down
Talking too much and i have learn nothing about the machine how it works
Maybe you skipped the title? I mentioned nothing about this being a demo, instruction manual, or a video showing how the synth works. It is me sharing my first opinion on the synth. Thanks for watching though :)
@@SoundsAndGear titles sometime do not explain everything on the video and many titles sometime show other different things and generally speaking even specified title repeat most common things about keyboard that beginners or intermediate already know and do not explain the capacity what a keyboard can do and how it works, always playing some sounds or playing style ect. Sorry if i said something to upset you but my comment was general as i could said for other video as well.
Not upset at all. I'm just responding to your comment. My video is what the title says, me sharing my first impression of this synth. It isn't a demo, a review, or an explanation of features. It is me sharing my initial thoughts after plugging it up, specifically compared to the Montage in terms of layout, build quality, etc. Thanks.
@@SoundsAndGear I love to see more depth on tutorial because sometimes manual are confusing and difficult to understand. Example a demonstration how to create a style intro on an arranger.....or create a pad from scratch
I hear ya, I have other videos on the engine (workflow is same as Montage) based on different questions I got while I had it. I haven't covered everything though and no longer have the synth.
Looks like a cheap plastic toy
It is plastic for sure, but far from a toy, a pretty powerful synth imo.
@@SoundsAndGear but the sounds are not authentic. The outdated Korg Krome has a 6gb German grand sample.
Authentic? Not sure what you mean by that, but the board sounds great. Of course sound and preference is up to personal taste.
@@SoundsAndGear The effects cover and mask the real piano sound coming from the Modx. It sounds good. But it's a small sample quality compared to a 6gb Native Instruments Alecia Keys piano or a 6gb German Grand in a Korg Krome for $999
Cool. I never messed with the KORG boards personally, I really don't get caught up in the sample size, programming can do wonders with small samples. But I've heard great things about the Korg piano also.
Always and only comparing with Montage.... Yamaha is the only instrument producer, ni Roland, Waldorf.... 👎
Huh? LOL
I think you missed the reason why, dude.
Does it have transpo?
I no longer have it but as far as I remember it had transpose.