I'm convinced Seiko intentionally refuses to put movements into their watches which match the quality of their designs. And you know what? It's a brilliant strategy. The low end movements with good design and finishing are perfect for a first watch, and they've really got that market well secured. Have a roughly $500 budget for a first watch? Look no further than any of the zillion Seikos at that price point. Then later when you start venturing into the 4 figure price range, guess what, Seiko is back! Now with the same low end movements, but spending the entire rest of the budget for unique designs and better finishing that rival vastly more expensive watches without spending money on silly things like accuracy. You don't care about movement tech right? You just want a cooler watch. Seiko has you covered. You are here now with this save the ocean skin diver. Ok, then you start inevitably caring about movement tech and you grow apart from your good friend Seiko. Those are now "starter watches" you say. You're more sophisticated and talk about things like chronometer certifications and swan neck regulators with a completely straight face and don't even think you sound like a snob. You tell yourself your design tastes have also elevated past Seiko. You lust after 5 figure watches. It's ok. Seiko isn't mad. Not even disappointed. It's just there, waiting for you to realize... Wait what's that? Seiko actually does have high end movements that have a letter that's not R in them? This pleases your new snobbery greatly. "I'm not a Seiko fan. No no, I'm a fan of high horology. I just didn't know that Seiko made high end movements", you tell yourself. But alas, this too wanes, and so you sell your Marine Master and have a final chuckle about how it came with cuff links. As if. Now you're on the wait-list for a Rolex and after 6 months you start asking yourself if you even actually want the Rolex or if you just want the idea of it. That inner watch nerd comes knocking again, but it's too late, Seiko can't answer the call. Wait... Who's that? Grand... Seiko? Oh, gosh, umm yeah you're right, it _is_ a better finished watch with a better movement to boot at half the price. Well this is awkward. I hope my Rolex AD doesn't get too mad when I show up in my new snowflake to cancel my order. Also, King Seiko exists for those who really want to lean into maximum design without spending any money on movement. Oh but wait they have limited editions of _those_ with high end movements too. You cannot escape Seiko. You can only resist, and we all have limited willpower.
Will use your comment for content creation. Yes I fully agree with you how there is a mismatch between watch and movement used. I own a new King Seiko Kikkoumon dial and I was disappointed that it did not use a 6L movement.
I didn’t like Seikos all that much but I recently got a Grand Seiko (quartz, pervert that I am) that I love. Now I’m very enthusiastic about Seiko divers. The cycle even works out of order, apparently.
That is a nice story to tell yourself for buying, what in the end is, just a piece of jewellery. Because a watch that doesn't keep time accurately, is a useless jewellery that instead of an engineering little wonder which turns kinetic energy to precise timekeeping it just carriss a junk load of metal parts inside, that are completely useless. Having a watch that lose thirty seconds up to one minute a day is just garbage, no matter how beautiful it is. It is really a shame and quite disgraceful and disrespectful to create watches that can't keep time precisely. It makes you realise that the Swiss are centuries ahead because they make WATCHES and NOT JEWELLERY
I have this exact watch (currently on the wrist). The size and weight are comfortable, the dial is stunning when it catches the light, and it looks great on a bracelet or a NATO. The accuracy is it's biggest flaw, but it's not as bad as the stats make out. Overall it's a decent watch.
If it bothers you that much you can get it regulated easily, even the misaligned bezels can be fixed. But of course Seiko should get their QC on point.
@@ozmondos it doesn't bother me. It's a watch I wear in rotation with others so by the time I put it back on, the time needs setting again. I just wanted to clarify that it is a great watch, but has an accuracy issue that isn't as bad as the figures suggest on their website. And, as stated in this video, there are no QC issues on this model.
I have three 62mas references in my collection. The SPB143, SPB239 and the black SPB253, the case shape ad the color variants Seiko releases just makes me get one everytime. Thought about the SPB297 too but ended up picking up the MM200 SPB299. I don't have any complaints about QC since I get my Seiko from an AD and look for it personally before I pickup one plus QC has been good on the higher end Seikos these days. If you have mixed feelings about 6R, then just get it regulated after you buy. All my 6r Seikos run within -/+5 seconds a day and keeps time very well.
I just picked up the SPB297 Save the Ocean and SPB213 140th Anniversary edition. I use to own a Rolex and I no joke love these 2 pieces more. I’m going to pick up the SPB143 next and the other models of the 62 mas reissue
I have the blue/white one as well, such a beautiful watch. I just received my SPB297, so now I have two 62 mas Seiko watches. Plus I have a watch from Islander watches that uses the 62mas style, and two Seestern 62mas knockoffs. The Islander is a REALLY nice watch, really well made.
I splurged for the SLA version of the 62MAS - slightly smaller case, fancier movement, fancier detailing, but from any distance greater than my eye to my wrist, pretty much indistinguishable from an SPB - and it's as close as I've ever come to thinking, "I could hang with this watch forever."
SLA017? I have one as well! It’s an AMAZING piece. My first “expensive” watch. There was so much hubbub about it being overpriced when it released. I think it’s actually a value proposition, when you compare it to it’s peers (with any level of provenance). If I had to choose only one watch for the rest of my life, the SLA would easily be it. My appreciation for it heightened after purchasing my first Rolex (new Explorer). Yes, the Rolex has a ton of charm, character, history etc., but the SLA is just on a whole different level IMO. Considering it was released in 2017, and now that the trend is toward smaller watches, it is the perfect size (39mm) that will stand the test of time. Enough babbling on…..Seiko is amazing!
@@tfergieman I went with the SLA043-I couldn't resist the color of the dial and especially the bright-blue seconds hand. I did, however, pick up the bracelet from the SLA017, which fits perfectly, is so simple to swap on and off, and made it even more versatile. 100% with you on the Rolex comparison, too-when I had the chance to get one at my local AD, I happened to be wearing the SLA. I compared the two and had a complete moment of clarity (so rare in this silly hobby) that the Rolex felt like a step down in terms of its design, history, durability, and degree of hands-on watchmaking the Grand-Seiko-built SLAs represent.
@@MeestroDavid 043 is great and that blue seconds hand has *almost* given me the push to pick one up multiple times! Great choice. Pick up an Uncle Seiko 19mm waffle strap, it provides the perfect balance of vintage appeal and modern materials and flex. It’s also not a lint magnet and not a mile long like the factory waffle. Also, what do you think about the SLA025 (or variations of it)? Been withholding for about 5 years…man I love that watch. I wish it had a bracelet option…
@@tfergieman The 025 is gorgeous but larger than I'm comfortable wearing. The under-40mm case of the 017/043 was a major selling point for me and, if I could change anything at all, I'd make it a little slimmer. Related, I tried on the SBP313 (and related) and it was by far the most comfortable Seiko I'd ever slipped on. I had to exercise a lot of self-control not buying that one, but I feel like it would always be an either/or decision to wear that or the SLA and it would always lose.
I love Seiko, especially their dive watches. I have a decent amount. I LOVE their history, and the fact that they are basing their watches on their original dive watches. I especially love the 62mas style. Just an incredibly comfortable watch. I also have 3 watches based on their 1968 dive watch, and I love their Captain Willard watches. Just beautiful watches. I have plenty of other watches, probably 10 other brands or more, some costing much more than the Seikos I own, but the Seikos get 90% of my wrist time.
I doff my imaginary cap to you sir and agree wholeheartedly with you I have three Seiko's a Hamilton and a gshock 😁 But just got the blue birch version 👍
Had the SPB143, love it so much until the week after I realised the damn hour hand was misaligned. After 3 months in seiko service center (to maintain warranty), it came back all scratched up, scratched hands, case, bracelet. Got refund and not sure im ready to jump back in
I do like this range of watches, this model is definitely the nicest one since they did that limited release with the blue dial and bronze second hand.
I went out to buy a Seiko 5 GMT but then I saw this in the flesh. I happen to be in Asia right now and prices are better than my home country so one thing led to another and now I am the proud owner of this watch. Vive La Fate!
My name is also Evan and I'm currently wearing this exact watch! Put mine on an Uncle Seiko Z199 bracelet and it immediately became one of my favorites. The dial is gorgeous irl, it has a mild sunburst effect that plays with the light
I wear the 239 on an Uncle Straps (Uncle Seiko) oyster bracelet and it weighs 149 grams. I'd get rid of the OEM bracelet in a heart-beat if I bought this version.
Picked this up around 2 weeks ago. Put it on a Strapcode rubber strap straight away as the bracelet was just disappointing . You’d expect a watch at this price point to at least have a decent bracelet. Not to mention the movement . Anyone know if I could get this watch properly regulated at a local watchmaker ?
I own this watch and it’s the best dial on this 62 mas series. The 6R35 requires some breaking in 😂 just wear the watch and eventually gets better when new is either too fast or slow. I also have the ghost Alpinist with the same 6R35 “issues” (they aren’t)
@@daveLin104 yeah they run decent (-5 to +5 ish) per day, I adjust them once a week or a couple weeks depending on how far they are from my phone time.
"If you don't love Seiko, you have no heart" I, who literally have the new Prospex Penguin Daytime that works too fast like, 14 minutes faster in 1 hour than any other watch I have : naah you are just not me (and I have proof video upload)
I tried it with Seiko as well and bought a SPB143 and sold that thing few months later again. My problem with seiko is the movement accuracy, as mine was around +12 and with a horrible beat error which is even unacceptable for a vintage watch. People say you should not care about those numbers. In fact i know how to adjust it on the timegrapher and got it to -2 to +2 within 2 minutes. The movements can be accurate its just that Seiko doesnt give a f*** to regulate them properly.
Your heart is fine, just don't measure the beat with Seiko :D Mine was +40 seconds a day. Tiresome on the wrist. The bezel couldn't decide weather it was in line or not. Thousand Bucaroos will buy you cooler piece somewhere else. The design is fu*kin' great though.
I'm curious about the story told by a watch which is scarred with dings and scratches-- as you pointed out, a very common trope among enthusiasts. Is it the story of a pathological klutz who swings his arms in a recklessly simian fashion, or is the story of someone who didn't remember to take their watch off prior to their first cliff dive? So many possibilities....
I wasn't going to bother watching 'another Seiko dive watch' video, until I realised it was one of yours. Maybe you could have some kind of logo/graphic that would make your video thumbnails stand out a bit.
They just need to do a green version and my wallet would fly straight out of my pocket-- what makes it worse is that I want to look at a Tudor or Omega.. but I always end up with another seiko.
@@YoureTerrific They could even do something related to the rapid death of algae and sea forests funny enough-- that's where a majority of our oxygen comes from so it would still be in-line with Saving the Ocean!
Like some others I don’t get seiko. I tired the silver dial model and it was nice but the bracelet and clasp were a bit pants. It was good for the price but I always went for other watches in my small collection.
While I don't know anyone who ever has (or ever will) use a consumer mechanical watch for actual diving, I do genuinely know many people who swear by their microwave's popcorn button.
Thing i dont like about this one (i have one) and most mid tier seiko, the casing between the lugs (behind the endlinks) is not finished well. Bugs me because this watch looks to need to be on a vintage leather strap.
I don't want to be heartless but appart from one GS quartz I got in a lot of watches I don't own any Seiko and to me this watch represent well seiko, well made and executed, even pretty. I still don't have any desire for them, I must be a psycho...
I don’t love Seiko. I’ve tried. Honestly, I have. I’ve owned 6 or 7 over the last 20 years, all of them attractive and interesting enough for me to spend my hard-earned cash on, but nope, I flipped them all. Despite some great designs, like the 62mas and 6105 Willard, the brand just doesn’t speak to me. Seiko makes me feel…nothing…like the Tin Man. So yeah, I guess I have no heart. 😂
Question, from someone new to Seiko but living their offerings: Do you need to use Seiko "fat" (2.5 mm diameter) springbars when you use other straps? (Also, thanks for reviewing a watch I'm trying *not* to buy! Lol.)
You can use any springbars of the correct width. I've got a watch with fat springbar holes (doesn't that sound dirty) that works just fine with normal springbars. They actually work better with pass through straps. That being said, the narrower tips hotdoggin' down the hallway does accelerate wear in the lug holes, though we're talking about a timeframe measured in years, decades even.
You already got your answer but another thing to consider is the springbar tip width, the Seiko 2.5mm fat bars usually have 1.1mm tip opposed to a more common 0.9mm tip. So you may feel a little wiggle if you use 0.9mm but that is normal. Get 1.8mm springbars if you want to use leather straps or any other straps, more durable. For nato, just use the springbars that come with watch.
Best Seiko watches are the ones $500 or less. Anything over is meh. My first mechanical watch the SKX173 will always be with me and I think it’s the perfect example of what Seiko does best. I’ve tried on a whole herd of Grand Seikos, limited editions…and none of them give me that weird warm fuzzy feeling of a luxury or exclusive watch. Again, Seiko is best at its mid to lower levels
I didn't even know about this one. I just got the SPB333 Save the Ocean and I thought I'd saved it already! Granted that wet finger look is silver on mine so I could justify this one. ( do you have a discount code?)
Like every Seiko, the retail price is usually too high. But wait a month and you’ll find new ones going for hundreds less and used ones for even less than that. Pretty much don’t ever pay retail for a Seiko.
I'm convinced Seiko intentionally refuses to put movements into their watches which match the quality of their designs. And you know what? It's a brilliant strategy.
The low end movements with good design and finishing are perfect for a first watch, and they've really got that market well secured. Have a roughly $500 budget for a first watch? Look no further than any of the zillion Seikos at that price point.
Then later when you start venturing into the 4 figure price range, guess what, Seiko is back! Now with the same low end movements, but spending the entire rest of the budget for unique designs and better finishing that rival vastly more expensive watches without spending money on silly things like accuracy. You don't care about movement tech right? You just want a cooler watch. Seiko has you covered. You are here now with this save the ocean skin diver.
Ok, then you start inevitably caring about movement tech and you grow apart from your good friend Seiko. Those are now "starter watches" you say. You're more sophisticated and talk about things like chronometer certifications and swan neck regulators with a completely straight face and don't even think you sound like a snob. You tell yourself your design tastes have also elevated past Seiko. You lust after 5 figure watches. It's ok. Seiko isn't mad. Not even disappointed. It's just there, waiting for you to realize...
Wait what's that? Seiko actually does have high end movements that have a letter that's not R in them? This pleases your new snobbery greatly. "I'm not a Seiko fan. No no, I'm a fan of high horology. I just didn't know that Seiko made high end movements", you tell yourself. But alas, this too wanes, and so you sell your Marine Master and have a final chuckle about how it came with cuff links. As if. Now you're on the wait-list for a Rolex and after 6 months you start asking yourself if you even actually want the Rolex or if you just want the idea of it. That inner watch nerd comes knocking again, but it's too late, Seiko can't answer the call.
Wait... Who's that? Grand... Seiko? Oh, gosh, umm yeah you're right, it _is_ a better finished watch with a better movement to boot at half the price. Well this is awkward. I hope my Rolex AD doesn't get too mad when I show up in my new snowflake to cancel my order.
Also, King Seiko exists for those who really want to lean into maximum design without spending any money on movement. Oh but wait they have limited editions of _those_ with high end movements too. You cannot escape Seiko. You can only resist, and we all have limited willpower.
Will use your comment for content creation. Yes I fully agree with you how there is a mismatch between watch and movement used. I own a new King Seiko Kikkoumon dial and I was disappointed that it did not use a 6L movement.
I didn’t like Seikos all that much but I recently got a Grand Seiko (quartz, pervert that I am) that I love. Now I’m very enthusiastic about Seiko divers. The cycle even works out of order, apparently.
This is brilliant!
Run from Seiko, we can. But the path always leads back to Seiko.
That is a nice story to tell yourself for buying, what in the end is, just a piece of jewellery. Because a watch that doesn't keep time accurately, is a useless jewellery that instead of an engineering little wonder which turns kinetic energy to precise timekeeping it just carriss a junk load of metal parts inside, that are completely useless. Having a watch that lose thirty seconds up to one minute a day is just garbage, no matter how beautiful it is. It is really a shame and quite disgraceful and disrespectful to create watches that can't keep time precisely. It makes you realise that the Swiss are centuries ahead because they make WATCHES and NOT JEWELLERY
I have an infinite love for the 62mas re-interpretations. I find them so attractive and they, most importantly, fit on my wrist and in my budget.
Always enjoy your videos my man. I absolutely love my Seiko SPB143 ❤
Gym class to gin glass…brilliant
I have this exact watch (currently on the wrist). The size and weight are comfortable, the dial is stunning when it catches the light, and it looks great on a bracelet or a NATO. The accuracy is it's biggest flaw, but it's not as bad as the stats make out. Overall it's a decent watch.
I think Seiko makes too many "decent" watches at more than decent prices
If it bothers you that much you can get it regulated easily, even the misaligned bezels can be fixed. But of course Seiko should get their QC on point.
@@ozmondos it doesn't bother me. It's a watch I wear in rotation with others so by the time I put it back on, the time needs setting again. I just wanted to clarify that it is a great watch, but has an accuracy issue that isn't as bad as the figures suggest on their website.
And, as stated in this video, there are no QC issues on this model.
Just picked one up £600 from a brick and mortar store 😁
Always like your writing. Insightful and funny, like the part with the popcorn button.
Thanks
Thank you for another great video mate. I enjoyed every second. Please keep it coming.
Best watch channel. Period (.). Whatever Watch you present, I watch this watch.
Note: Please keep mentioning your wrist size cause we always forget ✌🏼
What wrist size?
I have three 62mas references in my collection. The SPB143, SPB239 and the black SPB253, the case shape ad the color variants Seiko releases just makes me get one everytime. Thought about the SPB297 too but ended up picking up the MM200 SPB299. I don't have any complaints about QC since I get my Seiko from an AD and look for it personally before I pickup one plus QC has been good on the higher end Seikos these days. If you have mixed feelings about 6R, then just get it regulated after you buy. All my 6r Seikos run within -/+5 seconds a day and keeps time very well.
Do you have a favourite 62mas ?
I just picked up the SPB297 Save the Ocean and SPB213 140th Anniversary edition. I use to own a Rolex and I no joke love these 2 pieces more. I’m going to pick up the SPB143 next and the other models of the 62 mas reissue
This channel and Watch Finder are in a world of their own
I own the SPB143, the one with the grey sunburst dial. I think it’s one of the best looking Seiko dive watches they’ve made in a long time.
Have the 143. Very nice looking piece but poor accuracy lessens the appeal….
@@simonwood5587 I had mine regulated and it runs at -0 +6 seconds/day. But yeah 6R35s are not really regulated to tight tolerances at the factory.
I have the blue/white limited edition which rarely gets a mention. Absolutely love it!
Love the white dial great choice
@@mracekproductions the SPB143 seems to be the most popular. Perhaps more boring but also more versatile.
Own one it's stunning
I have the blue/white one as well, such a beautiful watch. I just received my SPB297, so now I have two 62 mas Seiko watches. Plus I have a watch from Islander watches that uses the 62mas style, and two Seestern 62mas knockoffs. The Islander is a REALLY nice watch, really well made.
You don't have to twist my arm into seiko. I bought my first seiko 33 years ago, still have it in perfect working order.
Great video Evan!!
Still here when you’re ready!! New projects planned that we sure would love to get you hands on with!! 👍🏻
Hope all is well!
I had very similar observations and conclusions with my owner's review of this SPB297. Thank you for your take on this diver.
I splurged for the SLA version of the 62MAS - slightly smaller case, fancier movement, fancier detailing, but from any distance greater than my eye to my wrist, pretty much indistinguishable from an SPB - and it's as close as I've ever come to thinking, "I could hang with this watch forever."
SLA017? I have one as well! It’s an AMAZING piece. My first “expensive” watch. There was so much hubbub about it being overpriced when it released. I think it’s actually a value proposition, when you compare it to it’s peers (with any level of provenance). If I had to choose only one watch for the rest of my life, the SLA would easily be it. My appreciation for it heightened after purchasing my first Rolex (new Explorer). Yes, the Rolex has a ton of charm, character, history etc., but the SLA is just on a whole different level IMO. Considering it was released in 2017, and now that the trend is toward smaller watches, it is the perfect size (39mm) that will stand the test of time. Enough babbling on…..Seiko is amazing!
@@tfergieman I went with the SLA043-I couldn't resist the color of the dial and especially the bright-blue seconds hand. I did, however, pick up the bracelet from the SLA017, which fits perfectly, is so simple to swap on and off, and made it even more versatile. 100% with you on the Rolex comparison, too-when I had the chance to get one at my local AD, I happened to be wearing the SLA. I compared the two and had a complete moment of clarity (so rare in this silly hobby) that the Rolex felt like a step down in terms of its design, history, durability, and degree of hands-on watchmaking the Grand-Seiko-built SLAs represent.
@@MeestroDavid 043 is great and that blue seconds hand has *almost* given me the push to pick one up multiple times! Great choice. Pick up an Uncle Seiko 19mm waffle strap, it provides the perfect balance of vintage appeal and modern materials and flex. It’s also not a lint magnet and not a mile long like the factory waffle. Also, what do you think about the SLA025 (or variations of it)? Been withholding for about 5 years…man I love that watch. I wish it had a bracelet option…
@@tfergieman The 025 is gorgeous but larger than I'm comfortable wearing. The under-40mm case of the 017/043 was a major selling point for me and, if I could change anything at all, I'd make it a little slimmer. Related, I tried on the SBP313 (and related) and it was by far the most comfortable Seiko I'd ever slipped on. I had to exercise a lot of self-control not buying that one, but I feel like it would always be an either/or decision to wear that or the SLA and it would always lose.
SLA037 here and I love it from the ever brilliant steel to the hi-beat movement.
i have the spb239 and i love it. has the perfect amount of vintage with the faux patina. fits a bracelet and any strap you can throw at it
The Z199 Uncle Seiko Strap made specifically for this watch takes it to a whole new level.
That looks really nice.
Seiko announced they have already saved all the oceans with their billions of limited editions they are building skate parks now
I’m a Seikohead. I have the SPB213 variant of the 63mas. I love it.
That might be my favorite.
I love Seiko, especially their dive watches. I have a decent amount. I LOVE their history, and the fact that they are basing their watches on their original dive watches. I especially love the 62mas style. Just an incredibly comfortable watch. I also have 3 watches based on their 1968 dive watch, and I love their Captain Willard watches.
Just beautiful watches. I have plenty of other watches, probably 10 other brands or more, some costing much more than the Seikos I own, but the Seikos get 90% of my wrist time.
I doff my imaginary cap to you sir and agree wholeheartedly with you I have three Seiko's a Hamilton and a gshock 😁
But just got the blue birch version 👍
such a great design. I wear my SPB143 more than any other watch with many, more expensive watches in my box.
I wish Seiko could guarantee a proper aligned bezel on their dive watches. It's holding me back to order online. This one in de video looks good.
God I love this channel
Okay I’m buying it. Now just trying to decide SPB143J or this SPB297. No more distractions
I had the same dilemma. Now I think that SPB297 is a SPB143 with a Grand Seiko level dial.
in June comes the SPB 4..... 🙇
i was in the way to buy the SPB297. Now waiting for SPB 4....
looks gorgeous
Loved my SBDC101, not a fan of the weight with bracelet so I've been rocking the grey nato and black rubber all day.
Had the SPB143, love it so much until the week after I realised the damn hour hand was misaligned. After 3 months in seiko service center (to maintain warranty), it came back all scratched up, scratched hands, case, bracelet. Got refund and not sure im ready to jump back in
The popcorn button on my microwave is my most used button besides “Start” 😂 🍿
I do like this range of watches, this model is definitely the nicest one since they did that limited release with the blue dial and bronze second hand.
If Grand Seiko makes this design, I will totally go for that.
Finally someone speaks my mind
Brilliant review, as always!
I went out to buy a Seiko 5 GMT but then I saw this in the flesh. I happen to be in Asia right now and prices are better than my home country so one thing led to another and now I am the proud owner of this watch. Vive La Fate!
Interesting, might have to buy one. Do you know of any watch meet ups/clubs/groups in pdx?
Could you please do a review on SEIKO SPB 313 SIR❤😊
What a beautiful watch!
My name is also Evan and I'm currently wearing this exact watch! Put mine on an Uncle Seiko Z199 bracelet and it immediately became one of my favorites. The dial is gorgeous irl, it has a mild sunburst effect that plays with the light
Does the dial look exactly like what this video is showing? The website photo doesn't look nearly as nice.
@@dd-dd2co I'd say so, I'd describe it as a metallic icy blue
@@Xxblaze191x Ah thanks, the person who took the website photos should be sacked then hahaha.
I couldn't live with that accuracy. I'd prefer it with a good quartz movement. Good looking watch.
Nautical milimeters, that was a pretty good one, you catch me at that instant!
Such brutal leam muscle beautiful seiko ⌚️ watchs loved it, i want to buy one of dis watch. WoW
I wear the 239 on an Uncle Straps (Uncle Seiko) oyster bracelet and it weighs 149 grams. I'd get rid of the OEM bracelet in a heart-beat if I bought this version.
keep on ticking, my heart that is
Did you say "gym class to the gin glass"? Man that's golden.
these 62MAS releases are all just lovely.
If I didn’t have a my sub, I would say this in the grey/black version is the only one you need
Picked this up around 2 weeks ago. Put it on a Strapcode rubber strap straight away as the bracelet was just disappointing . You’d expect a watch at this price point to at least have a decent bracelet.
Not to mention the movement . Anyone know if I could get this watch properly regulated at a local watchmaker ?
The only negative is the weight. I hope Seiko will give us a titanium version.
My god, what a dial. Another beautiful dial by Seiko.
Great watch. Own it. Have a lot more expensive watches, but somehow this one gets more wrist time.
Another excellent video!
Great review. I have a 143, the one thing I wish I could change is I wish seiko used white lume
I own this watch and it’s the best dial on this 62 mas series. The 6R35 requires some breaking in 😂 just wear the watch and eventually gets better when new is either too fast or slow. I also have the ghost Alpinist with the same 6R35 “issues” (they aren’t)
Has yours improved? And steady now ?
@@daveLin104 yeah they run decent (-5 to +5 ish) per day, I adjust them once a week or a couple weeks depending on how far they are from my phone time.
Agree all, but I just don't know which one??
Nice review and I really like this one!
"If you don't love Seiko, you have no heart"
I, who literally have the new Prospex Penguin Daytime that works too fast like, 14 minutes faster in 1 hour than any other watch I have : naah you are just not me (and I have proof video upload)
Sounds magnetised or the hair spring is stuck a little. Get it looked at.
@@PhilipJoyceMusician I did, now 3 weeks passed and still waiting for the answer and time to get it back
Some sites say the case diameter is 38mm. Perfect! The Tudor BB54 killer!
It's 40.5mm not 38mm.
Le lancette e indici Seiko, sono pieni di imperfezioni o sbaglio? Bell’orologio nel complesso!
Great video, could you tell me where did you purchased the light brown leather strap. Thank you
I tried it with Seiko as well and bought a SPB143 and sold that thing few months later again.
My problem with seiko is the movement accuracy, as mine was around +12 and with a horrible beat error which is even unacceptable for a vintage watch. People say you should not care about those numbers. In fact i know how to adjust it on the timegrapher and got it to -2 to +2 within 2 minutes.
The movements can be accurate its just that Seiko doesnt give a f*** to regulate them properly.
Why did you sell if you regulated to decent spec?
Your heart is fine, just don't measure the beat with Seiko :D
Mine was +40 seconds a day.
Tiresome on the wrist.
The bezel couldn't decide weather it was in line or not.
Thousand Bucaroos will buy you cooler piece somewhere else.
The design is fu*kin' great though.
😂 great comment
Does it come with matching cuff links? If not, then what are we even doing here?
I'm curious about the story told by a watch which is scarred with dings and scratches-- as you pointed out, a very common trope among enthusiasts. Is it the story of a pathological klutz who swings his arms in a recklessly simian fashion, or is the story of someone who didn't remember to take their watch off prior to their first cliff dive? So many possibilities....
I wear a Grand Seiko daily as a toolmaker in an airplane factory 😂, couldn’t care less, it’s my watch and I want to wear it.
I wasn't going to bother watching 'another Seiko dive watch' video, until I realised it was one of yours.
Maybe you could have some kind of logo/graphic that would make your video thumbnails stand out a bit.
They just need to do a green version and my wallet would fly straight out of my pocket-- what makes it worse is that I want to look at a Tudor or Omega.. but I always end up with another seiko.
A green with this texture… a Save the Forest special edition.
@@YoureTerrific inspired by the visual intricacies of the broccoli I cook in a pan every few days
@@YoureTerrific They could even do something related to the rapid death of algae and sea forests funny enough-- that's where a majority of our oxygen comes from so it would still be in-line with Saving the Ocean!
Where'd you get the shirt jacket? ᴵ'ᵐ ᵒⁿˡʸ ᵃˢᵏᶦⁿᵍ ᵇᵉᶜᵃᵘˢᵉ ᴵ ᵏⁿᵒʷ ᶦᵗ ᵃⁿⁿᵒʸˢ ʸᵒᵘ
Hey where is that gray nato from? Has a cool buckle and I like the tone of the gray
Yeah it's nice. I have the original STO turtle so I know how good the dials are.
Like some others I don’t get seiko. I tired the silver dial model and it was nice but the bracelet and clasp were a bit pants. It was good for the price but I always went for other watches in my small collection.
While I don't know anyone who ever has (or ever will) use a consumer mechanical watch for actual diving, I do genuinely know many people who swear by their microwave's popcorn button.
It's purely aspirational for me since I don't have time to eat popcorn. Too busy responding to RUclips comments.
Great review 👍.
Had the SPB143. It was good. But not great enough to remain in the collection… I think it’s me though. Dive watches never seem to hang around
Same with me and chronographs
I wish he’d say how big his wrist is
I’ll see myself out
can you get a hold of the sje093 from exquisite and review it?
Bonito reloj Seiko. 🤩🤩⌚️⌚️
Thing i dont like about this one (i have one) and most mid tier seiko, the casing between the lugs (behind the endlinks) is not finished well. Bugs me because this watch looks to need to be on a vintage leather strap.
Which would you choose. This or the recent citizen prodiver you reviewed? I think both were great budget divers
Too many variables. What else do you own? What’s your budget? What kind of socks do you prefer?
@@YoureTerrific point taken. no more questions
Gym class to gin glass is GOATED
I don't want to be heartless but appart from one GS quartz I got in a lot of watches I don't own any Seiko and to me this watch represent well seiko, well made and executed, even pretty.
I still don't have any desire for them, I must be a psycho...
I did not know that a nerd is someone who is asking for a bezel to be aligned on a $1000 watch.
Why is the dial color different from social media/press photos?
Probably because they're not real photos.
Huh, another retro-inspired diver without faux-lume, but they have faux-lume options for those who want it. I hope Omega is taking notes.
Seriously
Stunning
I don’t love Seiko. I’ve tried. Honestly, I have. I’ve owned 6 or 7 over the last 20 years, all of them attractive and interesting enough for me to spend my hard-earned cash on, but nope, I flipped them all. Despite some great designs, like the 62mas and 6105 Willard, the brand just doesn’t speak to me. Seiko makes me feel…nothing…like the Tin Man. So yeah, I guess I have no heart. 😂
Well, at least you have the courage to try. 🦁
Recently got into vintage 60s and 70s.. things like King Seiko, Skyliner... lots of great quality and vintage charm and value
I love a lot of seiko designs but the bracelet is almost always so much worse than the case, it’s a totally different color.
My dad had a tons of seiko but he hated them, maybe that's why I have no feelings for seiko's, it's genetics I can't do ish about it.
Exactly how I feel about Swiss designs, none speak to me, I find them very, very boring. I like Seiko designs the most
why the fuck does seiko not do signed crowns
They do. I have a cocktail time with an S on the crown. Maybe the screw-downs aren’t signed because they’ll likely be askew when tight.
I really just wish Seiko would get their shit together on their bracelets.
The watches deserve better.
Can you tell which brand is the grey nato? Many thanks!
Can you recommend an automatic watch model that I won't have to constantly check? (Seiko)
Question, from someone new to Seiko but living their offerings: Do you need to use Seiko "fat" (2.5 mm diameter) springbars when you use other straps? (Also, thanks for reviewing a watch I'm trying *not* to buy! Lol.)
You can use any thickness of spring bar, as long as it’s the right length.
Perhaps the inverse of some other things?
@@YoureTerrific Actually laughed out loud. Double thanks!
You can use any springbars of the correct width. I've got a watch with fat springbar holes (doesn't that sound dirty) that works just fine with normal springbars. They actually work better with pass through straps.
That being said, the narrower tips hotdoggin' down the hallway does accelerate wear in the lug holes, though we're talking about a timeframe measured in years, decades even.
@@peanutarbuckle2879 thanks!
You already got your answer but another thing to consider is the springbar tip width, the Seiko 2.5mm fat bars usually have 1.1mm tip opposed to a more common 0.9mm tip. So you may feel a little wiggle if you use 0.9mm but that is normal. Get 1.8mm springbars if you want to use leather straps or any other straps, more durable. For nato, just use the springbars that come with watch.
You’re killin my bank account, you Scam Artist.
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If you could only do one seiko, this or the MM300?
Would buy if it didn't have that misaligned marker at 3, like most of their latest models...
Best Seiko watches are the ones $500 or less. Anything over is meh. My first mechanical watch the SKX173 will always be with me and I think it’s the perfect example of what Seiko does best. I’ve tried on a whole herd of Grand Seikos, limited editions…and none of them give me that weird warm fuzzy feeling of a luxury or exclusive watch. Again, Seiko is best at its mid to lower levels
Your description in text says "Prosper"
Did you mention Wristsize?
I have the 253 and it warms my heart.
I didn't even know about this one. I just got the SPB333 Save the Ocean and I thought I'd saved it already! Granted that wet finger look is silver on mine so I could justify this one. ( do you have a discount code?)
I tried that watch on at the weekend. The silver birch dial and blue second hand work so well together. Definitely a watch on my list 👍
Do more ocean saving!
@@davesrc_crawling8349 I’m really loving it. The bracelet is really great. Especially for them.
@@michaelfierman3256 glad you are enjoying it. The inclusion of the NATO made from recycled ocean litter is a great idea too.
You lost me at 1250. I’ve never ended a video faster.
I had a 143 and it would’ve been great as a $500-800 watch…
Like every Seiko, the retail price is usually too high. But wait a month and you’ll find new ones going for hundreds less and used ones for even less than that. Pretty much don’t ever pay retail for a Seiko.
I’d pull the trigger or whatever the watchfam do if Seiko make this in titanium.
Yes! A titanium SPB 62mas would be so good. Worth another $300?