You could drastically increase the rate of change in flux with a highly permeable low reluctance path through steel washer plate around the tube and placed at the bottom and top of each coil. But make sure to cut a slit in the steel washer plate from the outside diameter to the inside diameter so as to minimize or rather eliminate primary mode eddy currents. If one wants to further close the magnetic curcuit. One might encase the outside of the coil and washer plates with a larger diameter steel pipe. Closing most of the magnetic circuit further increases the rate of change in flux across a coil helping produce the most voltage with waves of low cycles per minute. Obe might consider a full wave voltage doubler circuit to assist in getting usefull charging voltages while also rectifying the linear generator's output to the battery. Lastly, the battery needs a charge controller to prevent overcharging.
Practical and useful presentation. Magnets have always attracted my interests. Wire and magnets run most of the world.Tell them about Amp Turns, The magnets that are produced these days are amazing. Like these videos. Much food for thought for a hungry brain.
Thank for this video! It was very informative. Keep up the great work you are doing because I always enjoy all your videos. I haven’t ever commented before this but I felt like I wanted you to know that I appreciate this.
make the pipe 2-3 times longer, more magnets, more coils. put a well-oiled and very springy spring at the top and bottom of the pipe (long and powerful spring at the bottom, shorter and less powerful at the top) and install some kind of rubber gasket braking system near the top, and assemble the system to be enclosed, with an air input from an automated compressor at the top to get everything started if gravity isn't enough. when the brake is released and/or air pressure is introduced, the magnet plug travels down the barrel, passing through the coils and landing on the bottom spring, which launches it back up through the coils into the top spring, which launches it back down through the coils into the bottom spring, which launches it back up through the coils into the top spring... (see where i'm going with this?). if the system slows down too much, the compressor kicks on for a moment to give it a little boost. I imagine something really amazing might happen if you were to encase the coil array in a geodesic ball of halbach arrays (perhaps two different amazing somethings, if you tried one version with the arrays focusing inward and one with the arrays focused outward)... have the whole thing mounted on a frame that allows you to turn the pipe upside down to reset the system if it ever stops or is turned off. your thoughts, master of magnetism?
Wow I enjoyed the demonstration! What did your friend with a boat end up doing size wise and how did it work out for him long term, is there any video he can do with his experience? Thanks
Fun and informative vid! One question though: Won’t the conductive copper weight sap some of the energy output due to induced eddy currents? I think a non-conductive weight might give better results. For wave generation, the trick is going to be to convert the wave action to higher velocity of the magnet passing through the coils. Some sort of a pneumatic system could accomplish this, or perhaps even just a float and a lever arm. I’ll watch the later videos to see where you went with this!
Maybe an offset seesaw for leverage and as it’s raised it doesn’t come down with the seesaw and instead hooks up and is not let go until after the seesaw returns to the bottom where there is a trigger for the above mousetrap style hook .
Excellent idea. We have been working on a similar design already in a future video:). Hopefully we can get a good working model and head to the beach!!!
Thank you for the demonstration , Subscribed ! We have a wind turbine that powers our off grid farm and now we have a better understanding of how it works.
Shouldn't you have made an attempt to match the source and load impeadances for maximum power transfer? Then calculate power. This would give you a truer number vs just measuring the voltage. This would also be more accurate when you change wire size. I also wonder if any eddy currents were induced in the copper cylinder that altered the measurement. Re: the magnet dropped in a copper tube, but this is reversed, copper dropped in a magnetic field.
So faster travel, thinner gauge, thinnest wall thickness. With an oscillating magnet, is it better to have more coil with the magnet going end to end within the coil? Or is is better to have less coil and the magnet going beyond the coil end to end
I know this is probably a silly question but... What kind of watts can you get out of this? If this boat was rocking at consistent amount over an hour, how much energy could you get to run something like a TV. Basically, if the rock of the boat was unnaturally steady, 24 hours a day/night, how much power in watts would you be producing?
Yes it would. I asked the Oscium people if they had anything that could give me current and they did not. I have a power quality meter that I need to send off for repair or it might have been able to record both for me.
I once saw a really odd shaped coil that looked like it was made with around 10 8"x8"x1" square blocks with holes in the middle so the squares could be slid down an upright pole at the center. The squares were rotated and offset to form a spiral like pattern with the corners up the pole. The copper wire was wrapped around each square and the result was a spiral square coil. Any idea what the purpose of that would be? My best guess is from around 13 minutes into the top video that pops up when you type "Why build an entire computer on breadboards" into the yt search (yt wont let me use links sry), he shows how the physical geometry of the wires carrying a signal have a very interesting effect on their attenuation and phase shift at high frequencies. If the geometry of the coil can affect the signal, maybe it also can affect magnetic induction. Have you considered testing differently shaped coils? Maybe its another factor that may effect your voltage results. Thanks for the very informative videos!
Interesting - I am not sure if I follow the description. I will look it up:) OK - watched it and I think he was talking about just the magnetic field that is created any time electricity moves through the conductor. I was watching the 12-14 minute segment.
@@SuperMagnetMan He pokes the wires and it effects the signals which implies to me that the physical shape of the wires affects the signal at very high frequencies. I guess it could also be his own electric frequency interacting with the wires when he touches them, but then I have no idea what the purpose of the coil I saw was. I saw the coil 3 stories underground in a gov building down a dirt road in VA, and it was in a electrical room so it had to have had a real purpose right?
so happy i found this channel. i have a question. in the simplest, for kids way u can respond, can magnetism be focused and sent down a highway similar to how light goes from a source to an object?
I think if you use a top weight other than copper (something that has a much higher resistivity) would give you much better results, as when the Cu weight goes through the coil (WITH A LOAD ATTACHED to the stationary coil), it just generates a large loss as heat. I did a similar test with a huge 3" x 3" magnet which amplifies the results to a point that you can actually feel. GREAT VIDEO!!!
Yes, I actually tested with my 3 inch x 3 inch magnet in a 3 inch PVC pipe and it was way off scale so I could not use that info in the video. The purpose of the copper weight is just to provide a higher kinetic energy as the magnet goes through the coil and the drag force is quite significant. I would like to have a set of scales that could tell me the exact force and then see how much energy I was actually extracting but that is a lot of equipment that I don't have:). Maybe later:)
@@SuperMagnetMan I think Dale Nassar's point is that you can minimise the losses by making the extra weight made from a non-conductive material. The back-EMF induced in the copper mass from the coils' (under load) reaction will cause eddy currents in copper heating it up and thus stealing some of the power that can be used on the load. Hope that makes sense :o)
Is my following assessment of the experiment's results accurate? As a magnets gauss increases electro motive force produced from magnetic induction increases. As an air gap between magnet and coil decreases, electro motive force produced from magnetic induction increases in percent efficiency. As wire thickness of coil increases electro motive force produced from magnetic induction while coil is under load increases in percent efficiency. In other words magnet gauss is the main factor, air gap effects the efficiency of the magnetic induction the most, and wire thickness helps maintain efficiency while coil is under load. Am I correct in my assessment? Did I miss anything else that can be deduced from the experiments? Thanks for the informative videos!
Are those coils the kind that turn ferrite metal into a magnet? Could the coils you have in this video be used to make a piece of metal magnetic with the poles aligned?
How about gravity magnetic wave. take 2 magnets one down and one above it (heavy) repelling each other for the top one to be free to move up and down but is repelled from going down. have 2 coils one between the magnets and one above the magnet... I assume you can modify it with your style. What do you think will happen when it uses the heavy magnet potential energy in gravity to move ? Gravity does the heavy work and the coil does the light work if done in a frequency.
@@SsDiBoi No link to a.... theory. When the coil gets a small electric charge between the magnets would weaken the magnet connection and make the magnet go down. When the top magnet goes up again the top coil will be charged which will break the link to the bottom. Obviously will need to be toyed with to see what works. But even a small solar cell that can give it a boost to let it get some momentum. Point is to make it have a snow ball affect to use momentum. Position of the 2 coils would matter, just like width/height of the magnet, weight, loops of coil, thickness of coil. Maybe even both coils in between the magnets, or a third coil. sensor, etc. Will be simpler if you added it up in math of gravity, weight, Gauss, coil position, and turns.thanks
Obviously this would be a sensor application and electronics project. The problem is that it would not be able to create enough power to bounce it back to its original starting point and so each pulse would be less until it reaches equilibrium. Of course with a little thought you could look at using this concept to capture lost energy from other sources. Like a train or subway track that vibrates up and down as the cars roll over. Right now all that energy is wasted but lots of small coils and magnets could recapture some of the energy.:)
@@SuperMagnetMan I'm now getting into free energy and I c alot of things that could be combined but that could just b my ignorance like the issue explained seems like it could be a solved wit perpetual motion but spinning fast enough would still b an issue but a combination I think can work if I don't electracute myself. I c its alot like aquaponics without all da nik naks that help so a bit easier but fatal
@@SuperMagnetMan true. I was thinking instead of magnets being a primary source why not have it an a secondary source in a device and gravity as primary. Takes more energy to push a magnet than to weakness a magnet to have gravity do the heavy work. Which is why I felt that a small solar to help while it gains momentum, but again I can be most likely wrong.. The thing is frequency (device) has more power than pure brute force, like bending an I-beam for example. Thanks for the videos.
Fun video! Looking forward to the follow up~ What was the purpose of adding a load to the circuit in this experiment? The output potential of the generator doesn't change. Any load is certainly going to change the readings, so no real surprises there. Can you explain what conclusion we can draw regarding wire gauge? Anyway, keep up the interesting work!
can you demostrate kens gyroscope and giant magnet idea. to see if when on its side it does similar effects. aka is explainable by eddy currents etc or a new phenomena
Very interesting concept. We are discussing our list of upcoming video projects this week. I will look into that suggestion and see if it is something we can get done! Thanks
Without power measurements, the data is not very useful. I would request that you redo the experiments with the various wire gauges and also measure the current flowing through the circuit. You can use one channel of your scope to do this by putting a very low resistance resistor in series with the load, and measuring the voltage across the resistor to calculate the current. The current will be the voltage measured/the resistance of the resistor. Since you already know the voltage being generated , now you will know the current, you can calculate power = voltage x current. I would be Intersted to know the difference in power generated, as a thicker wire may produce less voltage but more current, resulting in a similar amount of power... Great experiment! Thanks for taking the time to share!
You are exactly right and I thought about getting a precision resistor and doing that but I was afraid that making it too technical would lose half my audience:) It is a delicate balancing act between communicating enough to be interesting and giving too much info and it being boring:).
Actually kind of have a question cause I seem to look at things different . you're talking about limiting walthickness, but from my perspective and maybe I'm wrong isn't proximity directly or more so maybe I should say isn't Resistance to moving object and electrical current generation directly inverse to each other? so sure maybe if you wanted to decrease your volume of an electrical generating system per workload, then you'd be worried about wall thickness, but getting the magnet closer to the coil just increases resistance and thus could increase electrical current, but also would still be taking more away from the work. I do see it coming into play and conceptualization of a current project I'm working on where the weight of the magnet will be an inefficiency to the system . so maximizing my electrical generation potential out of any given weight of magnet, would be somewhat key. Cool stuff though! 👍
Good idea. I was even thinking about adding several coils of increasing size in line and sequencing them so that the field gets stronger as the cylinder magnet accelerates. Sounds like we have more fun projects coming up - stay tuned!!!
@SuperMagnetMan 4:26 - "Lost 80% of our ring flux..." comparing what to what? What values are you comparing, here? ---You know it's likely to be difficult sledding when this early on there are routine references to comparisons where the gentleman doesn't bother to tell you _what_ is being compared. What is 80% of what, here? Where are the equations for the potential energy of this system? ---My best guess is you're comparing readings on the PVC surface (why here?) to readings on the magnet's surface, in Gauss, but doing a very poor job by rounding significantly without telling your viewers, nor telling them specifically _what it is_ you're comparing, and why it's important. 4:50 - Why is the reading at the outside of the coil important? You and I know that it has to do with the efficiency of the system, and the efficiency and placement of the winding, but do you really think half the people watching this know, and know why and what you can do about it? Further, what you really mean by the "PVC Surface" on your board is, "The innermost face of the coil," something critical to your audience's understanding and to the value of the quantity taken at the outside of the coil. You also want to minimize wall thickness, but not coil thickness given how important the reading is at the outside of the coil? Slow down, brother. Slow it down. This is valuable stuff---don't waste it by hurrying!
80% of the starting value so if the original surface gauss measurement is 5,000 gauss and at that point I am down to 1,000 gauss - that is an 80% drop.
you could use like a toilet bowl float in adjust along the stem for the waves how fast do waves go up and down to change how quickly and how much torque it would have to adjust although running it through faster is probably more important than the torque that you run it through
Maybe an offset seesaw for leverage and as it’s raised it doesn’t come down with the seesaw and instead hooks up and is not let go until after the seesaw returns to the bottom where there is a trigger for the above mousetrap style hook .
Watched 3 videos and this one makes me dizzy. The goal of electrical wave-tide-swell energy is to take kinetic energy and create electrical power and energy. You need to know how much kinetic energy is and quantify the electrical energy (not volts) to determine the efficiency which drives design. So much to be said. Recommend a good university student to help on this video.
This is true but I think the static electricity would not play a role in power generation. I know that trucking companies have to cover the front side of PVC pipe because the air - especially dry hot air - blowing across it for several hours can build up several thousand volts of static electricity. This is also why truck usually have a chain dragging underneath. When they stop it shorts all the static to the ground.
They really need that kind of improvisation out of necessity in California. They 're power grid , once the proud . clean , and efficient model for others to adore has been sacrificed by her people on the Alter of ideology..
Well it depends on what you want to do with it:). It can be simple for demonstration, but engineering anything to sit on the ocean 24/7 takes a lot of 316 stainless steel:)
Really good info there super mag . I often wonder about ways to generate electron flow from the natural movements we are surrounded by and the details involved for the greatest efficiency so you can imagine why this is right up my ally . I have been collecting shaded pole fan motors for a few years to use the electro thin gauge copper coils but it’s seems best to create larger diameter coils after watching this video . I do however wonder about using large diameter ring magnets from microwave ovens magnetrons . I think they would be quite good . I wish to have a 150mm diameter ring magnet but I think they would be extremely expensive so the free microwave magnetron magnets will have to suffice . 👍
SuperMagnetMan well today I picked up some pvc tubing . I will have the magnet dipping in and out via a rotor attached to drill. Much like a piston . Trying to figure out if it should pass the coil to avoid dwell or if it not needed . I am considering the idea of it only bobbing up and down 50mm and kepping my coil thin and high walled . I have a scope to visualise so am very excited . Many other projects on so starting to feel overwhelmed before I even start 😂👍
@@Buzzhumma Fantastic. So excited that you are going to do your own experiment. It is an amazing journey of discovery:). Let me know if I can help and definitely let me know if you come up with something exciting:)
If you think of an ocean wave it breaks down into 2 parts. The tidal forces driven by gravity pulls the body of water with a gravitational drag force. Then as the water tapers down and approaches a shoreline you have waves. The second part is across the top of the waves and wind energy blows across the top of the water and pushes the water into waves. I am working on an enhanced design that will produce even more power from the waves than current designs.:). Stay tuned:)
*The magnetic circuit in all of these demonstrations is absolutely terrible.* Take a lesson from the voice coil in a loudspeaker, and *make the flux go straight out radially* from a chunk of iron plate on each end of the magnet (flux re-directors), through a thin coil, backed up by heavy iron for high intensity flux loop closure, then straight inwards radially to the other end of the magnet. Set it all up so the magnets and iron pole pieces are stationary, and move the coil only, as in a loudspeaker. That will also allow you to avoid friction with the 'pipe' (the coil support). Moving the coil in a stationary magnetic field is every bit as valid as moving the magnet, and a stationary magnet can be MUCH larger. You also should match the coil height and spacing to the thickness and spacing of the flux re-directors. And btw, the flux re-directors can concentrate the field intensity to about twice that of the best supermagnet, because good magnet iron has much higher permeability than the magnet material.
LoL at least do yourself and the creator a favor and get their name right. Ken didn't create or discover anything, he has put his name on every person's work along with updating terms. All been figured out before. Too many come as you go RUclips know-nothings with nothing to say on here. Hey look at what I found, that was presented to me...😪😪😪
@@josephr5034 Yes All true but Ken's Explanation is the only correct one, Inventor of the ferrocell - Tim Vanderelli has no plausible explanation. I'm out here making connections, you're playing a very loud bystander and add Diddle Squat Son.
@@michaelmichael9952 what you are doing is sitting there playing with yourself in the corner, obviously. You should turn go on plug your internet and get a library card, you fool! How much of schauberger have you read? LOL not a page obviously! How about Jefimenko? LOLOL so much for all that whatever you were saying, I tend not to listen to losers who don't know anything but pretend like they do.
@@josephr5034 Here's some Skool for you. ruclips.net/video/yXPrLGUGZsw/видео.html In this beautiful Schauberger's Doc, one can see the dedication Viktor gave to Tesla for the genius he is, I think its around 13' or 18' you can see Teslas image on the wall of Schauberger's workshop. You're clearly backing the right team, but like every other experimenter, you're missing the fundamentals Tesla took seriously. Ken, Ben and Brown are all working on the most important work in physics and you fools are throwing shade, just like they did with Tesla and Schauberger, you're literally no different, You Fool. I'm only opening Mr Mans Mind here to the fact that there is way more to be promoted about magnets. FOOL.
This is so sad. rapidly changing the magnetic field will increase the power you generated. This can be done with magnets without moving anything physically against the strength of the magnetic field. Doing what he demonstrates (sliding magnets past coils is childish and lacks intelligence.) Either split the magnet in half and rotate a disc of variable reluctance through the gap between the magnets (this was done by Don Smith, (Don then amplified the power using air-core high-frequency transformers and downconverted it to useful frequencies and power levels with tabletop sized generating plants that could power city blocks) and powering the rotating disc can be done with virtually no resistance, and produce unlimited high frequency alternating electrical power from inductors wound around the magnets which will develop highly variable magnetic fields, much faster than moving magnets past Lenz law activated coils. Or you could simply put electromagnets on each side of a power generating magnetic core and synchronize the power to the outer electromagnets and shift the field strength back and forth in the center electromagnet (Clemente Figuera patented this design in the 1800s) Easily powering his entire home with a 12-volt motor battery (easily keeping it charged). This can be set up to run at any AC frequency and any voltage, avoiding the complex transformations that Don Smith developed. The sailor could power his boat without ever needing to refuel or charge his drive motor and power his fridge and stove for his moveable feast and lights to travel safely at night. And power his favorite satellite receiver to keep up with his favorite reality show or local news and weather channels and video chat partner or long distance crush.
I came hear looking for a solution like your boater story. You teased it & teased it & ... did NOT deliver. You're so obsessed w the numbers that you never get to a practical result. Someone did, but you didn't.
At first I wanted to reply to your comment negatively and then I realized that doesn't help anyone. Close your eyes and imagine the tube on it's side, it's shorter and both ends closed. The magnet will move through the coil every time the boat encounters a wave.
Thanks for making this, with measurements data. ❤love it. Keep up the good work
You could drastically increase the rate of change in flux with a highly permeable low reluctance path through steel washer plate around the tube and placed at the bottom and top of each coil. But make sure to cut a slit in the steel washer plate from the outside diameter to the inside diameter so as to minimize or rather eliminate primary mode eddy currents.
If one wants to further close the magnetic curcuit. One might encase the outside of the coil and washer plates with a larger diameter steel pipe. Closing most of the magnetic circuit further increases the rate of change in flux across a coil helping produce the most voltage with waves of low cycles per minute.
Obe might consider a full wave voltage doubler circuit to assist in getting usefull charging voltages while also rectifying the linear generator's output to the battery. Lastly, the battery needs a charge controller to prevent overcharging.
Fun stuff! Thanks for the episodes!!
Awesome experiments.
Thanks for the education.
Practical and useful presentation. Magnets have always attracted my interests. Wire and magnets run most of the world.Tell them about Amp Turns, The magnets that are produced these days are amazing. Like these videos. Much food for thought for a hungry brain.
Thank for this video! It was very informative. Keep up the great work you are doing because I always enjoy all your videos. I haven’t ever commented before this but I felt like I wanted you to know that I appreciate this.
Thank you very much:) It is a lot of fun to think of what to do and how to do it so that viewers like you enjoy it. Thanks for letting me know.
make the pipe 2-3 times longer, more magnets, more coils. put a well-oiled and very springy spring at the top and bottom of the pipe (long and powerful spring at the bottom, shorter and less powerful at the top) and install some kind of rubber gasket braking system near the top, and assemble the system to be enclosed, with an air input from an automated compressor at the top to get everything started if gravity isn't enough. when the brake is released and/or air pressure is introduced, the magnet plug travels down the barrel, passing through the coils and landing on the bottom spring, which launches it back up through the coils into the top spring, which launches it back down through the coils into the bottom spring, which launches it back up through the coils into the top spring... (see where i'm going with this?). if the system slows down too much, the compressor kicks on for a moment to give it a little boost. I imagine something really amazing might happen if you were to encase the coil array in a geodesic ball of halbach arrays (perhaps two different amazing somethings, if you tried one version with the arrays focusing inward and one with the arrays focused outward)... have the whole thing mounted on a frame that allows you to turn the pipe upside down to reset the system if it ever stops or is turned off. your thoughts, master of magnetism?
Wow I enjoyed the demonstration! What did your friend with a boat end up doing size wise and how did it work out for him long term, is there any video he can do with his experience? Thanks
Thank You for applicating the nature of the coil to hopefully everyone's🧠
Fun and informative vid!
One question though: Won’t the conductive copper weight sap some of the energy output due to induced eddy currents? I think a non-conductive weight might give better results.
For wave generation, the trick is going to be to convert the wave action to higher velocity of the magnet passing through the coils. Some sort of a pneumatic system could accomplish this, or perhaps even just a float and a lever arm.
I’ll watch the later videos to see where you went with this!
Maybe an offset seesaw for leverage and as it’s raised it doesn’t come down with the seesaw and instead hooks up and is not let go until after the seesaw returns to the bottom where there is a trigger for the above mousetrap style hook .
Excellent idea. We have been working on a similar design already in a future video:). Hopefully we can get a good working model and head to the beach!!!
This channel is so underrated
Thank you for the demonstration , Subscribed ! We have a wind turbine that powers our off grid farm and now we have a better understanding of how it works.
Thanks:)
Shouldn't you have made an attempt to match the source and load impeadances for maximum power transfer? Then calculate power. This would give you a truer number vs just measuring the voltage. This would also be more accurate when you change wire size. I also wonder if any eddy currents were induced in the copper cylinder that altered the measurement. Re: the magnet dropped in a copper tube, but this is reversed, copper dropped in a magnetic field.
How about attaching such a setup to the three blades of a giant windmill generator??
Interesting idea but I am trying to figure out how to make that happen. Help me out a little more:). Thanks
So faster travel, thinner gauge, thinnest wall thickness. With an oscillating magnet, is it better to have more coil with the magnet going end to end within the coil? Or is is better to have less coil and the magnet going beyond the coil end to end
I know this is probably a silly question but... What kind of watts can you get out of this? If this boat was rocking at consistent amount over an hour, how much energy could you get to run something like a TV. Basically, if the rock of the boat was unnaturally steady, 24 hours a day/night, how much power in watts would you be producing?
Would have been interesting to also see the amp output.
Yes it would. I asked the Oscium people if they had anything that could give me current and they did not. I have a power quality meter that I need to send off for repair or it might have been able to record both for me.
Can we generate 6 volt with slow movement..if yes what copper and size of magenet should be used
I once saw a really odd shaped coil that looked like it was made with around 10 8"x8"x1" square blocks with holes in the middle so the squares could be slid down an upright pole at the center. The squares were rotated and offset to form a spiral like pattern with the corners up the pole. The copper wire was wrapped around each square and the result was a spiral square coil. Any idea what the purpose of that would be? My best guess is from around 13 minutes into the top video that pops up when you type "Why build an entire computer on breadboards" into the yt search (yt wont let me use links sry), he shows how the physical geometry of the wires carrying a signal have a very interesting effect on their attenuation and phase shift at high frequencies. If the geometry of the coil can affect the signal, maybe it also can affect magnetic induction. Have you considered testing differently shaped coils? Maybe its another factor that may effect your voltage results. Thanks for the very informative videos!
Interesting - I am not sure if I follow the description. I will look it up:)
OK - watched it and I think he was talking about just the magnetic field that is created any time electricity moves through the conductor. I was watching the 12-14 minute segment.
@@SuperMagnetMan He pokes the wires and it effects the signals which implies to me that the physical shape of the wires affects the signal at very high frequencies. I guess it could also be his own electric frequency interacting with the wires when he touches them, but then I have no idea what the purpose of the coil I saw was. I saw the coil 3 stories underground in a gov building down a dirt road in VA, and it was in a electrical room so it had to have had a real purpose right?
so happy i found this channel. i have a question. in the simplest, for kids way u can respond, can magnetism be focused and sent down a highway similar to how light goes from a source to an object?
I think if you use a top weight other than copper (something that has a much higher resistivity) would give you much better results, as when the Cu weight goes through the coil (WITH A LOAD ATTACHED to the stationary coil), it just generates a large loss as heat. I did a similar test with a huge 3" x 3" magnet which amplifies the results to a point that you can actually feel.
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Yes, I actually tested with my 3 inch x 3 inch magnet in a 3 inch PVC pipe and it was way off scale so I could not use that info in the video. The purpose of the copper weight is just to provide a higher kinetic energy as the magnet goes through the coil and the drag force is quite significant. I would like to have a set of scales that could tell me the exact force and then see how much energy I was actually extracting but that is a lot of equipment that I don't have:). Maybe later:)
@@SuperMagnetMan I think Dale Nassar's point is that you can minimise the losses by making the extra weight made from a non-conductive material. The back-EMF induced in the copper mass from the coils' (under load) reaction will cause eddy currents in copper heating it up and thus stealing some of the power that can be used on the load. Hope that makes sense :o)
Is my following assessment of the experiment's results accurate? As a magnets gauss increases electro motive force produced from magnetic induction increases. As an air gap between magnet and coil decreases, electro motive force produced from magnetic induction increases in percent efficiency. As wire thickness of coil increases electro motive force produced from magnetic induction while coil is under load increases in percent efficiency. In other words magnet gauss is the main factor, air gap effects the efficiency of the magnetic induction the most, and wire thickness helps maintain efficiency while coil is under load. Am I correct in my assessment? Did I miss anything else that can be deduced from the experiments? Thanks for the informative videos!
Are those coils the kind that turn ferrite metal into a magnet? Could the coils you have in this video be used to make a piece of metal magnetic with the poles aligned?
How about gravity magnetic wave. take 2 magnets one down and one above it (heavy) repelling each other for the top one to be free to move up and down but is repelled from going down. have 2 coils one between the magnets and one above the magnet... I assume you can modify it with your style. What do you think will happen when it uses the heavy magnet potential energy in gravity to move ? Gravity does the heavy work and the coil does the light work if done in a frequency.
Wouldn't u-b able to harness the energy from the resistence from 2 magnets repelling each other? N if yes," share a link Bruh,
@@SsDiBoi No link to a.... theory. When the coil gets a small electric charge between the magnets would weaken the magnet connection and make the magnet go down. When the top magnet goes up again the top coil will be charged which will break the link to the bottom. Obviously will need to be toyed with to see what works. But even a small solar cell that can give it a boost to let it get some momentum. Point is to make it have a snow ball affect to use momentum. Position of the 2 coils would matter, just like width/height of the magnet, weight, loops of coil, thickness of coil. Maybe even both coils in between the magnets, or a third coil. sensor, etc. Will be simpler if you added it up in math of gravity, weight, Gauss, coil position, and turns.thanks
Obviously this would be a sensor application and electronics project. The problem is that it would not be able to create enough power to bounce it back to its original starting point and so each pulse would be less until it reaches equilibrium. Of course with a little thought you could look at using this concept to capture lost energy from other sources. Like a train or subway track that vibrates up and down as the cars roll over. Right now all that energy is wasted but lots of small coils and magnets could recapture some of the energy.:)
@@SuperMagnetMan I'm now getting into free energy and I c alot of things that could be combined but that could just b my ignorance like the issue explained seems like it could be a solved wit perpetual motion but spinning fast enough would still b an issue but a combination I think can work if I don't electracute myself. I c its alot like aquaponics without all da nik naks that help so a bit easier but fatal
@@SuperMagnetMan true. I was thinking instead of magnets being a primary source why not have it an a secondary source in a device and gravity as primary. Takes more energy to push a magnet than to weakness a magnet to have gravity do the heavy work. Which is why I felt that a small solar to help while it gains momentum, but again I can be most likely wrong.. The thing is frequency (device) has more power than pure brute force, like bending an I-beam for example. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for sharing, This Channel inspire me a lot!
Is there ever a good reason to go with larger guague wire?
So, if setup on a boat with waves at say 1Hz, whats the max wattage output?
Fun video! Looking forward to the follow up~
What was the purpose of adding a load to the circuit in this experiment? The output potential of the generator doesn't change. Any load is certainly going to change the readings, so no real surprises there.
Can you explain what conclusion we can draw regarding wire gauge?
Anyway, keep up the interesting work!
Same here.
Great demonstration ! Now, how to produce electricity with this kind of device? that is my question.....
awesome demonstrations!
Thank you:)
Cool video thanks for posting. Hmmm...gives some ideas🤔
ok, now lets see the final construction on the boat. In practice what does it look like and how does it perform.
Good question:). Keep in touch that is a project we are still working on:)
Great video! Thank you very much.
Seeing the actual device on your friends boat would be excellent.
How this stuff can help me overcome my shoulder pain
can you demostrate kens gyroscope and giant magnet idea. to see if when on its side it does similar effects. aka is explainable by eddy currents etc or a new phenomena
Very interesting concept. We are discussing our list of upcoming video projects this week. I will look into that suggestion and see if it is something we can get done! Thanks
SuperMagnetMan thanks :)
Without power measurements, the data is not very useful. I would request that you redo the experiments with the various wire gauges and also measure the current flowing through the circuit. You can use one channel of your scope to do this by putting a very low resistance resistor in series with the load, and measuring the voltage across the resistor to calculate the current. The current will be the voltage measured/the resistance of the resistor. Since you already know the voltage being generated , now you will know the current, you can calculate power = voltage x current.
I would be Intersted to know the difference in power generated, as a thicker wire may produce less voltage but more current, resulting in a similar amount of power...
Great experiment! Thanks for taking the time to share!
You are exactly right and I thought about getting a precision resistor and doing that but I was afraid that making it too technical would lose half my audience:) It is a delicate balancing act between communicating enough to be interesting and giving too much info and it being boring:).
Actually kind of have a question cause I seem to look at things different . you're talking about limiting walthickness, but from my perspective and maybe I'm wrong isn't proximity directly or more so maybe I should say isn't Resistance to moving object and electrical current generation directly inverse to each other? so sure maybe if you wanted to decrease your volume of an electrical generating system per workload, then you'd be worried about wall thickness, but getting the magnet closer to the coil just increases resistance and thus could increase electrical current, but also would still be taking more away from the work. I do see it coming into play and conceptualization of a current project I'm working on where the weight of the magnet will be an inefficiency to the system . so maximizing my electrical generation potential out of any given weight of magnet, would be somewhat key. Cool stuff though! 👍
Maybe even an hourglass winding and have the magnet in the middle bouncing from the top to the bottom
Good idea. I was even thinking about adding several coils of increasing size in line and sequencing them so that the field gets stronger as the cylinder magnet accelerates. Sounds like we have more fun projects coming up - stay tuned!!!
@SuperMagnetMan 4:26 - "Lost 80% of our ring flux..." comparing what to what? What values are you comparing, here? ---You know it's likely to be difficult sledding when this early on there are routine references to comparisons where the gentleman doesn't bother to tell you _what_ is being compared. What is 80% of what, here? Where are the equations for the potential energy of this system? ---My best guess is you're comparing readings on the PVC surface (why here?) to readings on the magnet's surface, in Gauss, but doing a very poor job by rounding significantly without telling your viewers, nor telling them specifically _what it is_ you're comparing, and why it's important.
4:50 - Why is the reading at the outside of the coil important? You and I know that it has to do with the efficiency of the system, and the efficiency and placement of the winding, but do you really think half the people watching this know, and know why and what you can do about it? Further, what you really mean by the "PVC Surface" on your board is, "The innermost face of the coil," something critical to your audience's understanding and to the value of the quantity taken at the outside of the coil. You also want to minimize wall thickness, but not coil thickness given how important the reading is at the outside of the coil?
Slow down, brother. Slow it down. This is valuable stuff---don't waste it by hurrying!
80% of the starting value so if the original surface gauss measurement is 5,000 gauss and at that point I am down to 1,000 gauss - that is an 80% drop.
That's some great teaching:) Thanks
you could use like a toilet bowl float in adjust along the stem for the waves how fast do waves go up and down to change how quickly and how much torque it would have to adjust
although running it through faster is probably more important than the torque that you run it through
You are correct and we are still working on several cool ideas with wave generation. Hopefully they will be in a future video:)
Maybe an offset seesaw for leverage and as it’s raised it doesn’t come down with the seesaw and instead hooks up and is not let go until after the seesaw returns to the bottom where there is a trigger for the above mousetrap style hook .
Ok that was impressive
Thanks for the video
Thank you so much for the feedback:). We have lots more on the way:). It seems that magnets are a source of never ending curiosity:)
Watched 3 videos and this one makes me dizzy. The goal of electrical wave-tide-swell energy is to take kinetic energy and create electrical power and energy. You need to know how much kinetic energy is and quantify the electrical energy (not volts) to determine the efficiency which drives design. So much to be said. Recommend a good university student to help on this video.
PVC also has static electricity. That has to have some effect on this?
This is true but I think the static electricity would not play a role in power generation. I know that trucking companies have to cover the front side of PVC pipe because the air - especially dry hot air - blowing across it for several hours can build up several thousand volts of static electricity. This is also why truck usually have a chain dragging underneath. When they stop it shorts all the static to the ground.
Hi I want try this for mine project
They really need that kind of improvisation out of necessity in California. They 're power grid , once the proud . clean , and efficient model for others to adore has been sacrificed by her people on the Alter of ideology..
Keep in mind that the "B" field of a magnet is the most powerful.... The "B" field is the center of a magnet.
Nice thought provoking presentation...I wish it was truly this simple...but of course it isn't
Well it depends on what you want to do with it:). It can be simple for demonstration, but engineering anything to sit on the ocean 24/7 takes a lot of 316 stainless steel:)
Really good info there super mag . I often wonder about ways to generate electron flow from the natural movements we are surrounded by and the details involved for the greatest efficiency so you can imagine why this is right up my ally . I have been collecting shaded pole fan motors for a few years to use the electro thin gauge copper coils but it’s seems best to create larger diameter coils after watching this video . I do however wonder about using large diameter ring magnets from microwave ovens magnetrons . I think they would be quite good . I wish to have a 150mm diameter ring magnet but I think they would be extremely expensive so the free microwave magnetron magnets will have to suffice . 👍
Good ideas. I don't actually have those items on hand so I would be interested in hearing what you learn about it. Thanks
SuperMagnetMan well today I picked up some pvc tubing . I will have the magnet dipping in and out via a rotor attached to drill. Much like a piston . Trying to figure out if it should pass the coil to avoid dwell or if it not needed . I am considering the idea of it only bobbing up and down 50mm and kepping my coil thin and high walled . I have a scope to visualise so am very excited . Many other projects on so starting to feel overwhelmed before I even start 😂👍
Also am considering the movement of the coil instead of the magnet as it will have less mass so increased rpm most likely 👍
@@Buzzhumma Fantastic. So excited that you are going to do your own experiment. It is an amazing journey of discovery:). Let me know if I can help and definitely let me know if you come up with something exciting:)
SuperMagnetMan sure will . I most likely will do a video and be sure to give your channel a 👍🏻
How is tidal change allowed for?
If you think of an ocean wave it breaks down into 2 parts. The tidal forces driven by gravity pulls the body of water with a gravitational drag force. Then as the water tapers down and approaches a shoreline you have waves. The second part is across the top of the waves and wind energy blows across the top of the water and pushes the water into waves. I am working on an enhanced design that will produce even more power from the waves than current designs.:). Stay tuned:)
Thank u sir
*The magnetic circuit in all of these demonstrations is absolutely terrible.* Take a lesson from the voice coil in a loudspeaker, and *make the flux go straight out radially* from a chunk of iron plate on each end of the magnet (flux re-directors), through a thin coil, backed up by heavy iron for high intensity flux loop closure, then straight inwards radially to the other end of the magnet. Set it all up so the magnets and iron pole pieces are stationary, and move the coil only, as in a loudspeaker. That will also allow you to avoid friction with the 'pipe' (the coil support). Moving the coil in a stationary magnetic field is every bit as valid as moving the magnet, and a stationary magnet can be MUCH larger. You also should match the coil height and spacing to the thickness and spacing of the flux re-directors. And btw, the flux re-directors can concentrate the field intensity to about twice that of the best supermagnet, because good magnet iron has much higher permeability than the magnet material.
faraday flashlight?
The exact same principle! Good pick up.
MR MAN, I think you would find Ken Wheelers - Ferrocell very interesting, and I'd love an explanation from you. He doesn't explain it very well
LoL at least do yourself and the creator a favor and get their name right. Ken didn't create or discover anything, he has put his name on every person's work along with updating terms. All been figured out before. Too many come as you go RUclips know-nothings with nothing to say on here. Hey look at what I found, that was presented to me...😪😪😪
@@josephr5034 Yes All true but Ken's Explanation is the only correct one, Inventor of the ferrocell - Tim Vanderelli has no plausible explanation.
I'm out here making connections, you're playing a very loud bystander and add Diddle Squat Son.
@@michaelmichael9952 what you are doing is sitting there playing with yourself in the corner, obviously. You should turn go on plug your internet and get a library card, you fool! How much of schauberger have you read? LOL not a page obviously! How about Jefimenko? LOLOL so much for all that whatever you were saying, I tend not to listen to losers who don't know anything but pretend like they do.
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In this beautiful Schauberger's Doc, one can see the dedication Viktor gave to Tesla for the genius he is, I think its around 13' or 18' you can see Teslas image on the wall of Schauberger's workshop.
You're clearly backing the right team, but like every other experimenter, you're missing the fundamentals Tesla took seriously. Ken, Ben and Brown are all working on the most important work in physics and you fools are throwing shade, just like they did with Tesla and Schauberger, you're literally no different, You Fool.
I'm only opening Mr Mans Mind here to the fact that there is way more to be promoted about magnets. FOOL.
Let's have a beer and chat, you're so interresting.
We could talk about the magnetic anomaly that stayed unanswered!..
Let's see him debate ken wheeler.
This is so sad. rapidly changing the magnetic field will increase the power you generated. This can be done with magnets without moving anything physically against the strength of the magnetic field. Doing what he demonstrates (sliding magnets past coils is childish and lacks intelligence.) Either split the magnet in half and rotate a disc of variable reluctance through the gap between the magnets (this was done by Don Smith, (Don then amplified the power using air-core high-frequency transformers and downconverted it to useful frequencies and power levels with tabletop sized generating plants that could power city blocks) and powering the rotating disc can be done with virtually no resistance, and produce unlimited high frequency alternating electrical power from inductors wound around the magnets which will develop highly variable magnetic fields, much faster than moving magnets past Lenz law activated coils. Or you could simply put electromagnets on each side of a power generating magnetic core and synchronize the power to the outer electromagnets and shift the field strength back and forth in the center electromagnet (Clemente Figuera patented this design in the 1800s) Easily powering his entire home with a 12-volt motor battery (easily keeping it charged). This can be set up to run at any AC frequency and any voltage, avoiding the complex transformations that Don Smith developed. The sailor could power his boat without ever needing to refuel or charge his drive motor and power his fridge and stove for his moveable feast and lights to travel safely at night. And power his favorite satellite receiver to keep up with his favorite reality show or local news and weather channels and video chat partner or long distance crush.
I came hear looking for a solution like your boater story. You teased it & teased it & ... did NOT deliver. You're so obsessed w the numbers that you never get to a practical result. Someone did, but you didn't.
What, No lightsaber ???
We seeing volt but we didnt saw watt and amp...so... 😭
Were all 1st
2nd is the new 1st. 😎👍
Magnetohydrodynamics will cause the Geo poles to shift. Crustal displacement. Yes?
"coil" is pronounced "koy-uhl", not "kohl."
9:28 good job correcting yourself
Will PEMF make a man s "middle leg " bigger?
THIS IS MY IDEA MY CONCEPT MY DEVICE PISSED OFF OF OTHERS FINDING STUFF ON THE WAY BACK MACHINE THEN CLAIMING IT BACK OFF IT OR PAY ME FOR IT
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Wonder where the waves are and what all that testing has to do with waves. Actually just one big confusion. Poor guy. Get an education.
At first I wanted to reply to your comment negatively and then I realized that doesn't help anyone. Close your eyes and imagine the tube on it's side, it's shorter and both ends closed. The magnet will move through the coil every time the boat encounters a wave.