Renault Zoe ZE40 winter range test

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
  • I did a winter range test cruising at 90 km/h, 56 mph to see how far I could get. The estimated result is about 200 km/125 mi.
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Комментарии • 120

  • @eDriver
    @eDriver 6 лет назад +34

    I am very satisfied with my Renault Zoe Q90 ZE40
    Q90 means, it has the 43 kW rapid charging engine build in. And this makes a huge difference, when charging with 43 kW instead of 22 kW.
    Along "Autobahn" or shopping malls are a lot of 43 kW AC chargers in Germany.

  • @BloodMaster104
    @BloodMaster104 6 лет назад +39

    I am so glad you did a video with Zoe! :D

  • @condedraculamor
    @condedraculamor 6 лет назад +10

    Hello from Portugal. My son and I love his videos. For your honesty, for dedication and above all for the company that makes us. Thank you and a hug. And never lose that laughter that is so pure.

  • @nimblybimbly4002
    @nimblybimbly4002 6 лет назад +20

    Thanks for increasing the test speed! A 90km/h test is much more useful to me than a 80km/h test.

  • @MZAxel1
    @MZAxel1 6 лет назад +5

    In my opinion, Zoe ist a ideal car, for using in suburban surroundings. e.g. as a second car for heading up to work or for shopping tours, for bringing kids to school or sports and something like this. You can carry five persons (or two adults and three children) in a comfortable way for distances about 80 - 100 km. Even the trunk ist big enough for most of tasks you make.
    We have the Zoe 4.0. and it's a very reliable and nice little car. The consumption of about 17-19 kWh/100km in winter is very normal. A smaller car is much more vulnerable to weak driving conditions as a bigger one.

  • @juliandavies7890
    @juliandavies7890 6 лет назад +8

    Great video. Very informative. Shows what a great car Zoe is.

  • @davidbarr5783
    @davidbarr5783 6 лет назад +5

    I've a ZE40 Q90 and I get similar results on my journey between Glasgow and Manchester in the UK. Biggest hit is the steep hills and the strong headwinds, usually 20mph plus, with temperatures around 0 degrees Celsius. The wind is the worst for the Zoe from my experience. I used nearly 20kwh to do 80 miles non-stop heading south but only 17kwh heading back north on the same road the next day. Same speed and conditions. You can tell the wind direction hadn't changed between those days.

  • @rogerhudson9732
    @rogerhudson9732 6 лет назад +11

    Winter in Norway, a really tough test, that it seemed to do well on.

  • @kevinorman3826
    @kevinorman3826 6 лет назад +2

    Another great review thanks - just to say that the ZOE does not 'need' 400volts to charge. You can charge at home from 220-240volts and fully charge in 4-6 hours. It also has 400v AC capability which means it can take advantage of fast AC chargers as well.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад

      You need a transformer up to 400 V then.

    • @kevinorman3826
      @kevinorman3826 6 лет назад +1

      No the chameleon charger built in to the ZOE can take 220V AC charge - this is what I have at home. We don't have 400v in homes in the UK only 220-240. You can charge with a 240v 7kw charger or even a granny plug-in lead into a standard socket.

  • @joaolxu581
    @joaolxu581 6 лет назад +3

    Hi Bjorn thanks I love the Zoe it’s compact and I like the digital speedometer it’s very cool , but for me its enough I guess Renault needs to put a 60klw Zoe to be even more friendly user

  • @erikh8993
    @erikh8993 6 лет назад +22

    Another great test Bjørn! But how many banana boxes does it take :-) :-)

  • @alexandru-florea
    @alexandru-florea 5 лет назад +4

    Hi Bjorn,
    Could you remake the range test with the old Zoe and start a 1000km challenge?
    I am curious about the results and mainly to have some proper compare values for the new upcoming ze50.
    Thanks!

  • @phonehoppy
    @phonehoppy 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you Bjørn! The ZOE is a nice little car, but not too efficient for a car of that size, and then there's the lack of DC...

    • @wsq90pe7
      @wsq90pe7 6 лет назад +2

      poor Golf DC is not much better than 43 kW AC (not often in Norway) and technically a small spacious car can not be as efficient as a big (long) car like TESLA

    • @TheRealChristoffer
      @TheRealChristoffer 6 лет назад +1

      The zoe in norway can max charge at 22 kwh

    • @phonehoppy
      @phonehoppy 6 лет назад

      Well, Hyundai Ioniq, BMW i3, and eGolf are also "small and spacious" just like ZOE, yet they are much more efficient. The current version of the IONIQ, despite having about 25% less battery capacity, has about the same range as the Z.E. 40, especially at highway and motorway speeds.

  • @Boterberg
    @Boterberg 5 лет назад +5

    Björn, Nice video as Always. You made me change from fossil files to Electric. I bought the Renault zoe Ze40 r90 2days ago. Is there a way to see the soc on this car? As well, everytime i hook the cable up, it doesnt go faster than 11kw charging 🤔Keep up the good work! Greetings from Belgium!

    • @MylanPS3
      @MylanPS3 4 года назад

      Aangezien ik ook een Belg ben, het antwoord maar in het Nederlands ;-) De meeste publieke laadpalen in België kunnen niet meer dan 11 kW leveren. Sommigen gaan wel tot 22 kW, maar die zijn vrij schaars. De kans is ook klein dat je thuis een wallbox met meer dan 11 kW hebt, je moet voor 22 kW immers al een behoorlijk zware elektriciteitsaansluiting hebben.

  • @alexiszafeiropoulos1569
    @alexiszafeiropoulos1569 2 года назад +1

    Good morning from Greece! I am an owner of a SMART for2 electric 2017 . I would like to buy a bigger electric car. I am between SMART FOR4 & RENAULT ZOE SAME YEAR (2017 - 2018). Which on you recomended? Smart is more beautiful but it has small baterry. Renault has bigger battery , more space but is ugly. And i dont know about Renault electric cars about guaranty - problems - value.
    Which one do you recomend to buy? Should i buy an used ZOE?
    Thanks !!!

  • @siggiAg86
    @siggiAg86 2 года назад +2

    Those are great numbers, I have a 2017 Zoe 40kw which i bought used recently and the numbers i get when i charge to 80% are only 97 km (in Icelandic winter). Shouldn’t be too dissimilar from Norway cold though but still I don’t really get it why the range is so low.

  • @CAESARbonds
    @CAESARbonds 6 лет назад +2

    If the Zoe takes very long for the last 1-2% and the SOH (state of health) is very low 70-80% it is due to a bad BMS.
    It can be fixed with an upgrade which is a pain in the but. because it takes hours and the Renault dealers don't know about it or don't want to install it. They hate EVs.
    Renault never made the update mandatory, and most drivers think it is a rapidly aging battery. Maby Renault wants to push EV-Drivers to buy a diesel again (Renault Talisman 500mg NOx per KM. ???)
    But the battery is fine, there are reports that owners that INSITED on the update, and got it after days of debating, gained easily 50 km of range.

    • @Muskar2
      @Muskar2 6 лет назад +2

      There's several guides online on how to manually install it. You need to then make an R-link account and download their software to your computer. Then properly disconnect the SD-card from the car, and insert it into the computer, then install the update on the SD-card via their software. When you put it back in the car, it will update the car. It's not super simple, but it works.

  • @borisschouten7867
    @borisschouten7867 6 лет назад +1

    You are right with the leaf 30 in winter temperature round 90 km driving at 100 km driving speed at highway it needs to charge! The car is screaming to charge and at the chademo Fastned charger I can only 17 KWh at 85% really frustrating

  • @TomiGugesz
    @TomiGugesz 3 года назад +1

    Hey which car u recomand. Ioniq 28 kw or Zoe 40 (37kw?)

  • @schehf
    @schehf 6 лет назад +3

    Results can be so different.
    I was driving the same car a month ago at 0 degrees celsius. 200km from munich home with eco mode with 96 km/h and I had a consumption of 16,7 KW/100km

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +1

      Tail wind and dry road?

    • @schehf
      @schehf 6 лет назад

      Bjørn Nyland No wind at all. Amazingly straight, dry road and sunny.
      I was constantly driving 96 with cruise control at 110. So the Zoe doesn't break when it is a bit down hill.

    • @schehf
      @schehf 6 лет назад

      Bjørn Nyland I had the heat on at 20 degrees. But the heater in the Zoe is not that good.
      I uploaded a video about the Zoe.
      Consumption video will be online on Saturday!

    • @MorganTrvolt
      @MorganTrvolt 6 лет назад +3

      This was on wet road, with some snow in the air. I suppose +10% consumption is to be expected. Also not sure about the surrounding temperature, but that might also have led the heater to work harder.

    • @schehf
      @schehf 6 лет назад +1

      Morgan Tørvolt So many things affect the consumption.

  • @BigB29357
    @BigB29357 6 лет назад +1

    So winter driving is significantly more energy consuming than summer driving. The Kona with 64 KWH gave Bjorn 500 km at 140 wh per km!!!

  • @electriceagle8737
    @electriceagle8737 6 лет назад

    Next time switch off the A/C while testing, the red light has to be on on the switch which is a bit confusing compared to other cars. Nice video Bjørn, tnx!

  • @amenhotep81
    @amenhotep81 5 лет назад +1

    Have you tested Zoe Q90 (43kW)? How fast is it charged from almost 0 to 100% and how many kW does the car take from the charger in particular stages of the battery?

  • @NedzadVegara
    @NedzadVegara 6 лет назад +7

    For Android Auto to work you need a app from Google called Android Auto, not available in Norway Google playstore, but you can sideload it from apkmirror.com, just search for Android Auto. Works like a charm.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +1

      I have the app installed. Worked fine on Ioniq and Soul EV.

    • @filipvanrickstal6584
      @filipvanrickstal6584 6 лет назад +1

      The Zoe is "Android Auto - ready", but a small modification is needed. It has to be made available. I combined the guidelines given in this video ruclips.net/video/fqHVPU0TxLg/видео.html and on this forum: speakev.com/threads/android-auto-update-done.97393/ . Works great.

  • @mishulicius
    @mishulicius 6 лет назад +1

    This car really needs a CCS charger.
    I still don't get why Renault doesn't fit a split-folding rear bench on this car. I wonder if you could retrofit a Renault Clio split-folding bench on a Zoe.

  • @martinmollov2993
    @martinmollov2993 6 лет назад +1

    Bjørn Nyland Please make an Oslo - Trondheim road trip video with the Opel Ampera-e

  • @hwcollector7237
    @hwcollector7237 3 года назад

    Which one is better quality car? 18kw VW e-Up or 40kw Renault Zoe? Thinking on getting one… for a family of four, two child seat coming. Of course Zoe has bigger boot but I’m looking for reliability and usability especially for winter (pre-heating and all that)

  • @TAD-9
    @TAD-9 6 лет назад +1

    Hey guys please remember to help out Bjørn on Patreon so he can spend more time doing awesome reviews for us: www.patreon.com/Teslabjorn

  • @Good-and-Geeky
    @Good-and-Geeky 6 лет назад

    I would have considered a Zoe because I am happy with my Clio. No Apple CarPlay takes it off the list helped by the better tech, Pro Pilot assist in the Nissan Leaf.

  • @martinauer8110
    @martinauer8110 5 лет назад +1

    Does anyone know the real difference between Q90 and R90. My dealer told us that the battery is different Q90 is capable for fast charging and has lower range, R90 only 22KW. I can't belive really. Is the battery really different or just the drivetrain ?

    • @akacicaa
      @akacicaa 5 лет назад

      Just the charger is different

  • @zoe50ccs
    @zoe50ccs 6 лет назад

    Exact Bjorn, its not a good car for an road-trip because the recharge is too slow and even the Q90 has too slow a time. Highly the DC combo on this Zoe.

  • @stealthhack
    @stealthhack 6 лет назад +1

    I more like the Peugeot ION than ZOE. It's a first gen EV but it's made in Japan, light car, ultra low energy consumption, DC fast charge, ultra cheap as second hand. No need to say that RWD car is more fun to drive, especially in winter. :D

    • @jOeLwAlBy
      @jOeLwAlBy 5 лет назад

      They need to update the battery on the Peugeot ion/Mitsubishi miev/Citroen c0 it's still a 16kwh battery

  • @rutgerkoebrugge2067
    @rutgerkoebrugge2067 6 лет назад

    Is there any difference between AC fast charging and DC fast charging? With even kW numbers i mean. I know the difference between AC and DC, but are there differences in charge time or battery life? Or BMS lifetime??

  • @rccrrd
    @rccrrd 6 лет назад

    I'm overall happy with my Zoe but the slow charging speed is extremely annoying going on trips longer than 250-350km. Anyone know the reason the Zoe doesn't have faster charging? The cost?

  • @jakubchodilek6882
    @jakubchodilek6882 3 года назад

    Bjorn how was the heater? Better than in old zoe??

  • @-Gunnarsson-
    @-Gunnarsson- 6 лет назад

    how do you get these cars? do they just knock on your door ?

  • @EdwardJones-gj6mp
    @EdwardJones-gj6mp 5 лет назад

    My Zoe won't charge in one go. It will charge for a couple of hours
    then stops charging. If this happens to you, reject the car straight
    away. Don't let it go past 30 days after delivery. It is a defective
    car and Renault have done nothing but try to delay delay delay. I do not want anyone to
    have to deal with the daily problem that I have encountered and the
    obstruction of Renault UK's escalations team. My car has to have a
    short charge, a pause, then being switched back on to charge.

  • @7necromancer
    @7necromancer 6 лет назад +1

    Bjorn, what do you think of the Citroen C-Zero E?

  • @jamnorge
    @jamnorge 5 лет назад

    So I'm planning on purchasing my first all electric vehicle. I've owned two hybrids the prius models, amd I'm looking for a cost effective electric to take me from Favang to Hamer if needed. I'm souper worried about the winter/cold and how it affects the battery life. Can you please give me anidea of which would be the best choice. I'm considering the E Golf, or BMW I3. I need some pointers.

    • @jamnorge
      @jamnorge 5 лет назад

      Great video by the way. I want to stay in the 140,000 range. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

  • @icucode
    @icucode 6 лет назад

    No problem with the inside temperature? When I tried one out I was freezing when I had the temperature @ 23 degrees C and it was -5 outside. It seemed like the driver door was poorly insulated.

    • @wsq90pe7
      @wsq90pe7 6 лет назад

      Neither doors nor roof is insulated original by RENAULT. Fully insulated I need between 0.5 to 1 kWh while driving 150 km (1 1/2 h) at -4 to 0°C outside @21 degrees C inside - no sun! - and now it feels cozy warm inside - cold or too much energy for heating is not longer an issue.

    • @icucode
      @icucode 6 лет назад

      WS Q90Pe That explains it! It’s interesting that you have to insulate a car yourself at that price tag.

  • @cms1104
    @cms1104 6 лет назад +2

    Q90 is not officially available in Germany (at the moment)

    • @wsq90pe7
      @wsq90pe7 6 лет назад

      If you order, you will get it by contingent

    • @davepermen
      @davepermen 6 лет назад

      ya, for some reason the 43kW charger versions don't get sold officially in germany. whyever..

    • @eDriver
      @eDriver 6 лет назад

      I just bought one at a German Renault dealer, brand new, mid may 2018, so it's available in Germany. See in my Videos.. :-)

  • @ivanalbreht4706
    @ivanalbreht4706 5 лет назад

    Hi Bjørn
    Did you made TBTP with Renault ZOE?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  5 лет назад +1

      lmgtfy.com/?q=bjorn+nyland+zoe

  • @tobimai4843
    @tobimai4843 6 лет назад +1

    If this car would have DC fast charging, it would be REALLY nice, but without it's practically useless if it's your only car.

    • @simbukka
      @simbukka 6 лет назад

      I wouldn't say Zoe is useless. I drive annually 25 000 to 30 000 kilometers with Zoe, and I charge mainly at home and at shopping centers. No need to touch to public paid chargers usually.

    • @simbukka
      @simbukka 6 лет назад

      So it depends of what kind of commuter you are: do you drive daily 100 to 150 km or e.g. 400 to 1000 km longer trips monthly.

  • @Racer_Hunter_Green-Energy
    @Racer_Hunter_Green-Energy 6 лет назад +1

    I hope the ZOE will soon get the CCS plug. 22kW AC ist to slow ;(.

    • @bikerAthar
      @bikerAthar 5 лет назад +1

      New 2020 Zoë wil have CCS, hope they keep 22kw ac to. No other cheap car has this. They only have 7,4 kw on board charger.

  • @imho7250
    @imho7250 6 лет назад

    @3:50 is that a 1960 turn signal clicky thing or just sounds like it for nostalgia?

    • @imho7250
      @imho7250 6 лет назад

      Thanks Bart, so it’s a Theme like a phone and you can set your ringtone and blinker fluid alarm. But I can’t see your comment. You must have been naught before.

  • @bassbacke
    @bassbacke 6 лет назад

    Nissan Leaf with CHAdeMO in 40-50 minutes? With the 40 kWh battery? I'm pretty sure charging tapers off there as well the closer to 100% you get.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад

      Of course. But it won't take 2.5 hours.

    • @bassbacke
      @bassbacke 6 лет назад

      Correct. 22 kW at home is great, for long distances it sucks.

  • @edwardjamescarr
    @edwardjamescarr 6 лет назад

    When are you winter testing the new Leaf?

  • @bengalvin71
    @bengalvin71 6 лет назад

    Is the Zoe a CCS type of charger or is 22kw the fastest it charges?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +1

      22/43 kW Type 2 only

    • @bengalvin71
      @bengalvin71 6 лет назад

      Bjørn Nyland
      That’s a pity, I’d be more interested if it had rapid charging capability.

  • @salmanzh
    @salmanzh 6 лет назад

    I have a Zoe and its battery meter goes crazy when calculating. It said you used 35 out of 41 kWh but your car said 7% left.

    • @AndrewGoodladIchorus
      @AndrewGoodladIchorus 6 лет назад

      The battery is more resistant in the cold so you won't get the full 41kWh out of the battery.

    • @salmanzh
      @salmanzh 6 лет назад

      Andrew Goodlad I agree, but shouldn't the usage and percentage correlate?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +3

      The 41 kWh is gross capacity and 37 kWh is net capacity. The remaining 4 kWh is bricking protection to prevent the battery from taking damage if discharged to 0 %.

    • @AndrewGoodladIchorus
      @AndrewGoodladIchorus 6 лет назад +6

      Bjørn Nyland i believe it’s actually 41kWh available. And about 44/45 for bricking prevention.
      I have a long video on my page that shows 40.9kWh of usable range using CanZE OBDII app. Renault quote usable battery and did for old Zoe too. 22kWh usable but had 25-26kWh battery pack.
      Renault, in contrast to Nissan (and Tesla I think), states the nett / usable capacity already instead of gross. cleantechnica.com/2016/10/11/details-renault-zoe-ze-40-battery-packs/

    • @CAESARbonds
      @CAESARbonds 6 лет назад

      there is an BMS upgrade that will fix this, but Renault is reluctant to give it to its customers

  • @DJChipsandGarlic
    @DJChipsandGarlic 3 года назад +1

    sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

  • @ivangoubarevpascual4301
    @ivangoubarevpascual4301 6 лет назад

    Didn't you try to plug it in a 43kW AC?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад

      Yes. But the charger can only take 22 kW.

  • @StanleyNyanyiwa
    @StanleyNyanyiwa 6 лет назад

    Bjorn Review VW ID Cross SUV

  • @Ciboulon
    @Ciboulon 5 лет назад

    No CarPlay in the Zoe 🙁

  • @StanleyNyanyiwa
    @StanleyNyanyiwa 6 лет назад

    LIKE

  • @Cwelle
    @Cwelle 6 лет назад +1

    SHIEEEET :)

  • @sinkonline
    @sinkonline 6 лет назад +1

    Amazed that the Ioniqe may be better with with a smaller battery pack!! :o

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +1

      Probably not better. Range is about the same.

  • @fabianheden8596
    @fabianheden8596 6 лет назад +1

    does it have a frunk??

    • @davepermen
      @davepermen 6 лет назад +3

      sadly no

    • @JohnDoe-vx3z
      @JohnDoe-vx3z 6 лет назад +3

      Fabian Hedén Who needs a frunk.

    • @JohnDoe-vx3z
      @JohnDoe-vx3z 6 лет назад +1

      Samuel Trösch Somehow all Zoe owners managed to survive without. And I wonder how many i3 owners actually use theirs.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  6 лет назад +4

      Only Tesla and i3 has frunk.

    • @davepermen
      @davepermen 6 лет назад +1

      surviving without it doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful and nice. i'd love to have a frunk in zoe. it would be really really useful

  • @fazytech2169
    @fazytech2169 6 лет назад +3

    Too much cabin noice 😐🤔

    • @wsq90pe7
      @wsq90pe7 6 лет назад +2

      where are your measurements?

    • @Nfsman56
      @Nfsman56 6 лет назад

      He's right, there's a lot of wind noise when driving at more than 80km/h

  • @singularity70
    @singularity70 6 лет назад

    Looks like the Ioniq ev much better than the Zoe.

  • @gunnarsandberg1
    @gunnarsandberg1 2 года назад

    Mini Cooper=YES, Kia Soul=YES , BMW I3=YES, VW ID3=YES , Zoe=NO!! ==> 0 point in CRASH-TEST Euro NCAP!! And boring design!

  • @olivertabone6788
    @olivertabone6788 6 лет назад +1

    First comment