Renault Zoe ZE40 winter range test
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
- I did a winter range test cruising at 90 km/h, 56 mph to see how far I could get. The estimated result is about 200 km/125 mi.
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I am very satisfied with my Renault Zoe Q90 ZE40
Q90 means, it has the 43 kW rapid charging engine build in. And this makes a huge difference, when charging with 43 kW instead of 22 kW.
Along "Autobahn" or shopping malls are a lot of 43 kW AC chargers in Germany.
I am so glad you did a video with Zoe! :D
#eDrive
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Thanks for increasing the test speed! A 90km/h test is much more useful to me than a 80km/h test.
In my opinion, Zoe ist a ideal car, for using in suburban surroundings. e.g. as a second car for heading up to work or for shopping tours, for bringing kids to school or sports and something like this. You can carry five persons (or two adults and three children) in a comfortable way for distances about 80 - 100 km. Even the trunk ist big enough for most of tasks you make.
We have the Zoe 4.0. and it's a very reliable and nice little car. The consumption of about 17-19 kWh/100km in winter is very normal. A smaller car is much more vulnerable to weak driving conditions as a bigger one.
Great video. Very informative. Shows what a great car Zoe is.
I've a ZE40 Q90 and I get similar results on my journey between Glasgow and Manchester in the UK. Biggest hit is the steep hills and the strong headwinds, usually 20mph plus, with temperatures around 0 degrees Celsius. The wind is the worst for the Zoe from my experience. I used nearly 20kwh to do 80 miles non-stop heading south but only 17kwh heading back north on the same road the next day. Same speed and conditions. You can tell the wind direction hadn't changed between those days.
Winter in Norway, a really tough test, that it seemed to do well on.
Another great review thanks - just to say that the ZOE does not 'need' 400volts to charge. You can charge at home from 220-240volts and fully charge in 4-6 hours. It also has 400v AC capability which means it can take advantage of fast AC chargers as well.
You need a transformer up to 400 V then.
No the chameleon charger built in to the ZOE can take 220V AC charge - this is what I have at home. We don't have 400v in homes in the UK only 220-240. You can charge with a 240v 7kw charger or even a granny plug-in lead into a standard socket.
Hi Bjorn thanks I love the Zoe it’s compact and I like the digital speedometer it’s very cool , but for me its enough I guess Renault needs to put a 60klw Zoe to be even more friendly user
Another great test Bjørn! But how many banana boxes does it take :-) :-)
Hi Bjorn,
Could you remake the range test with the old Zoe and start a 1000km challenge?
I am curious about the results and mainly to have some proper compare values for the new upcoming ze50.
Thanks!
Thank you Bjørn! The ZOE is a nice little car, but not too efficient for a car of that size, and then there's the lack of DC...
poor Golf DC is not much better than 43 kW AC (not often in Norway) and technically a small spacious car can not be as efficient as a big (long) car like TESLA
The zoe in norway can max charge at 22 kwh
Well, Hyundai Ioniq, BMW i3, and eGolf are also "small and spacious" just like ZOE, yet they are much more efficient. The current version of the IONIQ, despite having about 25% less battery capacity, has about the same range as the Z.E. 40, especially at highway and motorway speeds.
Björn, Nice video as Always. You made me change from fossil files to Electric. I bought the Renault zoe Ze40 r90 2days ago. Is there a way to see the soc on this car? As well, everytime i hook the cable up, it doesnt go faster than 11kw charging 🤔Keep up the good work! Greetings from Belgium!
Aangezien ik ook een Belg ben, het antwoord maar in het Nederlands ;-) De meeste publieke laadpalen in België kunnen niet meer dan 11 kW leveren. Sommigen gaan wel tot 22 kW, maar die zijn vrij schaars. De kans is ook klein dat je thuis een wallbox met meer dan 11 kW hebt, je moet voor 22 kW immers al een behoorlijk zware elektriciteitsaansluiting hebben.
Good morning from Greece! I am an owner of a SMART for2 electric 2017 . I would like to buy a bigger electric car. I am between SMART FOR4 & RENAULT ZOE SAME YEAR (2017 - 2018). Which on you recomended? Smart is more beautiful but it has small baterry. Renault has bigger battery , more space but is ugly. And i dont know about Renault electric cars about guaranty - problems - value.
Which one do you recomend to buy? Should i buy an used ZOE?
Thanks !!!
Those are great numbers, I have a 2017 Zoe 40kw which i bought used recently and the numbers i get when i charge to 80% are only 97 km (in Icelandic winter). Shouldn’t be too dissimilar from Norway cold though but still I don’t really get it why the range is so low.
If the Zoe takes very long for the last 1-2% and the SOH (state of health) is very low 70-80% it is due to a bad BMS.
It can be fixed with an upgrade which is a pain in the but. because it takes hours and the Renault dealers don't know about it or don't want to install it. They hate EVs.
Renault never made the update mandatory, and most drivers think it is a rapidly aging battery. Maby Renault wants to push EV-Drivers to buy a diesel again (Renault Talisman 500mg NOx per KM. ???)
But the battery is fine, there are reports that owners that INSITED on the update, and got it after days of debating, gained easily 50 km of range.
There's several guides online on how to manually install it. You need to then make an R-link account and download their software to your computer. Then properly disconnect the SD-card from the car, and insert it into the computer, then install the update on the SD-card via their software. When you put it back in the car, it will update the car. It's not super simple, but it works.
You are right with the leaf 30 in winter temperature round 90 km driving at 100 km driving speed at highway it needs to charge! The car is screaming to charge and at the chademo Fastned charger I can only 17 KWh at 85% really frustrating
Hey which car u recomand. Ioniq 28 kw or Zoe 40 (37kw?)
Results can be so different.
I was driving the same car a month ago at 0 degrees celsius. 200km from munich home with eco mode with 96 km/h and I had a consumption of 16,7 KW/100km
Tail wind and dry road?
Bjørn Nyland No wind at all. Amazingly straight, dry road and sunny.
I was constantly driving 96 with cruise control at 110. So the Zoe doesn't break when it is a bit down hill.
Bjørn Nyland I had the heat on at 20 degrees. But the heater in the Zoe is not that good.
I uploaded a video about the Zoe.
Consumption video will be online on Saturday!
This was on wet road, with some snow in the air. I suppose +10% consumption is to be expected. Also not sure about the surrounding temperature, but that might also have led the heater to work harder.
Morgan Tørvolt So many things affect the consumption.
So winter driving is significantly more energy consuming than summer driving. The Kona with 64 KWH gave Bjorn 500 km at 140 wh per km!!!
Next time switch off the A/C while testing, the red light has to be on on the switch which is a bit confusing compared to other cars. Nice video Bjørn, tnx!
Have you tested Zoe Q90 (43kW)? How fast is it charged from almost 0 to 100% and how many kW does the car take from the charger in particular stages of the battery?
For Android Auto to work you need a app from Google called Android Auto, not available in Norway Google playstore, but you can sideload it from apkmirror.com, just search for Android Auto. Works like a charm.
I have the app installed. Worked fine on Ioniq and Soul EV.
The Zoe is "Android Auto - ready", but a small modification is needed. It has to be made available. I combined the guidelines given in this video ruclips.net/video/fqHVPU0TxLg/видео.html and on this forum: speakev.com/threads/android-auto-update-done.97393/ . Works great.
This car really needs a CCS charger.
I still don't get why Renault doesn't fit a split-folding rear bench on this car. I wonder if you could retrofit a Renault Clio split-folding bench on a Zoe.
Bjørn Nyland Please make an Oslo - Trondheim road trip video with the Opel Ampera-e
Which one is better quality car? 18kw VW e-Up or 40kw Renault Zoe? Thinking on getting one… for a family of four, two child seat coming. Of course Zoe has bigger boot but I’m looking for reliability and usability especially for winter (pre-heating and all that)
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I would have considered a Zoe because I am happy with my Clio. No Apple CarPlay takes it off the list helped by the better tech, Pro Pilot assist in the Nissan Leaf.
Does anyone know the real difference between Q90 and R90. My dealer told us that the battery is different Q90 is capable for fast charging and has lower range, R90 only 22KW. I can't belive really. Is the battery really different or just the drivetrain ?
Just the charger is different
Exact Bjorn, its not a good car for an road-trip because the recharge is too slow and even the Q90 has too slow a time. Highly the DC combo on this Zoe.
I more like the Peugeot ION than ZOE. It's a first gen EV but it's made in Japan, light car, ultra low energy consumption, DC fast charge, ultra cheap as second hand. No need to say that RWD car is more fun to drive, especially in winter. :D
They need to update the battery on the Peugeot ion/Mitsubishi miev/Citroen c0 it's still a 16kwh battery
Is there any difference between AC fast charging and DC fast charging? With even kW numbers i mean. I know the difference between AC and DC, but are there differences in charge time or battery life? Or BMS lifetime??
I'm overall happy with my Zoe but the slow charging speed is extremely annoying going on trips longer than 250-350km. Anyone know the reason the Zoe doesn't have faster charging? The cost?
Bjorn how was the heater? Better than in old zoe??
how do you get these cars? do they just knock on your door ?
My Zoe won't charge in one go. It will charge for a couple of hours
then stops charging. If this happens to you, reject the car straight
away. Don't let it go past 30 days after delivery. It is a defective
car and Renault have done nothing but try to delay delay delay. I do not want anyone to
have to deal with the daily problem that I have encountered and the
obstruction of Renault UK's escalations team. My car has to have a
short charge, a pause, then being switched back on to charge.
Bjorn, what do you think of the Citroen C-Zero E?
Never tried before.
So I'm planning on purchasing my first all electric vehicle. I've owned two hybrids the prius models, amd I'm looking for a cost effective electric to take me from Favang to Hamer if needed. I'm souper worried about the winter/cold and how it affects the battery life. Can you please give me anidea of which would be the best choice. I'm considering the E Golf, or BMW I3. I need some pointers.
Great video by the way. I want to stay in the 140,000 range. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
No problem with the inside temperature? When I tried one out I was freezing when I had the temperature @ 23 degrees C and it was -5 outside. It seemed like the driver door was poorly insulated.
Neither doors nor roof is insulated original by RENAULT. Fully insulated I need between 0.5 to 1 kWh while driving 150 km (1 1/2 h) at -4 to 0°C outside @21 degrees C inside - no sun! - and now it feels cozy warm inside - cold or too much energy for heating is not longer an issue.
WS Q90Pe That explains it! It’s interesting that you have to insulate a car yourself at that price tag.
Q90 is not officially available in Germany (at the moment)
If you order, you will get it by contingent
ya, for some reason the 43kW charger versions don't get sold officially in germany. whyever..
I just bought one at a German Renault dealer, brand new, mid may 2018, so it's available in Germany. See in my Videos.. :-)
Hi Bjørn
Did you made TBTP with Renault ZOE?
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If this car would have DC fast charging, it would be REALLY nice, but without it's practically useless if it's your only car.
I wouldn't say Zoe is useless. I drive annually 25 000 to 30 000 kilometers with Zoe, and I charge mainly at home and at shopping centers. No need to touch to public paid chargers usually.
So it depends of what kind of commuter you are: do you drive daily 100 to 150 km or e.g. 400 to 1000 km longer trips monthly.
I hope the ZOE will soon get the CCS plug. 22kW AC ist to slow ;(.
New 2020 Zoë wil have CCS, hope they keep 22kw ac to. No other cheap car has this. They only have 7,4 kw on board charger.
@3:50 is that a 1960 turn signal clicky thing or just sounds like it for nostalgia?
Thanks Bart, so it’s a Theme like a phone and you can set your ringtone and blinker fluid alarm. But I can’t see your comment. You must have been naught before.
Nissan Leaf with CHAdeMO in 40-50 minutes? With the 40 kWh battery? I'm pretty sure charging tapers off there as well the closer to 100% you get.
Of course. But it won't take 2.5 hours.
Correct. 22 kW at home is great, for long distances it sucks.
When are you winter testing the new Leaf?
Is the Zoe a CCS type of charger or is 22kw the fastest it charges?
22/43 kW Type 2 only
Bjørn Nyland
That’s a pity, I’d be more interested if it had rapid charging capability.
I have a Zoe and its battery meter goes crazy when calculating. It said you used 35 out of 41 kWh but your car said 7% left.
The battery is more resistant in the cold so you won't get the full 41kWh out of the battery.
Andrew Goodlad I agree, but shouldn't the usage and percentage correlate?
The 41 kWh is gross capacity and 37 kWh is net capacity. The remaining 4 kWh is bricking protection to prevent the battery from taking damage if discharged to 0 %.
Bjørn Nyland i believe it’s actually 41kWh available. And about 44/45 for bricking prevention.
I have a long video on my page that shows 40.9kWh of usable range using CanZE OBDII app. Renault quote usable battery and did for old Zoe too. 22kWh usable but had 25-26kWh battery pack.
Renault, in contrast to Nissan (and Tesla I think), states the nett / usable capacity already instead of gross. cleantechnica.com/2016/10/11/details-renault-zoe-ze-40-battery-packs/
there is an BMS upgrade that will fix this, but Renault is reluctant to give it to its customers
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Didn't you try to plug it in a 43kW AC?
Yes. But the charger can only take 22 kW.
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Amazed that the Ioniqe may be better with with a smaller battery pack!! :o
Probably not better. Range is about the same.
does it have a frunk??
sadly no
Fabian Hedén Who needs a frunk.
Samuel Trösch Somehow all Zoe owners managed to survive without. And I wonder how many i3 owners actually use theirs.
Only Tesla and i3 has frunk.
surviving without it doesn't mean it wouldn't be useful and nice. i'd love to have a frunk in zoe. it would be really really useful
Too much cabin noice 😐🤔
where are your measurements?
He's right, there's a lot of wind noise when driving at more than 80km/h
Looks like the Ioniq ev much better than the Zoe.
Mini Cooper=YES, Kia Soul=YES , BMW I3=YES, VW ID3=YES , Zoe=NO!! ==> 0 point in CRASH-TEST Euro NCAP!! And boring design!
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