Shipping in Touhou Project

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Touhou is a series that is no stranger to Shipping, but with so many years under it's belt, the sheer amount of possible pairs has become staggering. Today I'm looking at a bunch of pairs, namely the more well known ones, and finding what initially sparked interest in those pairs, and some of my own opinions on them. Buckle up, because even restricting to mainly popular stuff proved to be no small amount!
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    Sources ended up being VERY long, so here's a Pastebin, if you are brave enough to venture through it. It is at least organized by order of appearance (I hope): pastebin.com/5...
    Music Used:
    Touhou Project
    Touhou Puppet Dance Performance
    Kubinashi Recollection
    Gensou No Keifu
    Sengoku Gensokyo
    Fantasy Maiden Wars
    Touhou Lost Branch of Legend
    Touhou Scarlet Rhythm Carnival
    Touhou Soccer
    NITORI BOX
    Scarlet Curiosity
    Touhou Mystical Chain
    Touhou For The Busy Person
    GENSOU Skydrift
    3rd Eye
    Touhou Genso Wanderer
    Touhou Double Focus

Комментарии • 536

  • @Migu1259
    @Migu1259 7 месяцев назад +399

    Chapters
    0:00 Intro
    1:07 ReiMari (Reimu & Marisa)
    3:03 ReiAri (Reimu & Alice)
    4:49 (Reimu & Yukari)
    6:24 Reimu & Suika intermission
    6:40 Reimu & Aya
    7:13 Reimu & ~Luigi~ Sanae
    8:53 Marisa-Pairings
    9:05 MariAri (Marisa & Alice)
    11:15 PatchyMari (Marisa & Patchouli)
    12:05 Surprise!!
    13:04 EoSD
    13:14 Cirno & Daiyousei
    15:03 Cirno & Aya
    15:45 Meiling & Sakuya
    17:04 Meiling & Flandre
    17:51 Sakuya & Remilia
    19:05 Remilia & Flandre (With a Disclaimer)
    20:25 PCB
    20:40 Letty & Cirno
    21:33 Ran & Chen
    22:31 Chen & Orin
    22:59 Alice & Yuuka
    24:01 Alice & Sakuya
    25:16 Alice & Medicine
    26:03 Youmu & Yuyuko
    27:27 Ran & Yuuma
    28:10 Ran & Yukari
    29:30 Yukari & Yuyuko
    31:22 Hifu- NOPE, TIME FOR IN
    31:25 Mystia & Kyouko
    32:03 Keine & Mokou
    33:09 Reisen & Youmu
    33:44 Kaguya & Mokou (Violence Warning!)
    36:07 PoFV, Aya & Momiji
    37:37 Aya & Hatate
    38:19 Komachi & Eiki
    39:00 Yuuka & Tenshi
    39:22 HiFuuJinRoku (Not Hifuu Time yet)
    39:28 Hina & Nitori
    39:58 Mountain-Intermission
    40:12 SWR
    40:13 Tenshi & Iku
    40:48 Tenshi & Shion
    41:42 SA
    41:46 Yuugi & Parsee
    42:25 Orin & Okuu
    43:33 Koishi & Kokoro
    44:30 Koishi & Flandre
    44:59 UFO
    45:01 Nazrin & Shou
    46:04 Ichirin & Futo
    46:35 Byakuren & Miko
    47:24 UFO done, TD next
    47:32 Seiga & Yoshika
    48:16 Miko & Saki
    48:59 Still no Hifuu, DDC next
    49:05 Wakasagihime & Kagerou
    49:51 Sekibanki & Kogasa
    50:28 Seija & Shinmyoumaru
    52:18 LoLK
    52:21 Sagume & Doremy
    53:26 Junko & Reisen
    54:24 UDoALG
    54:30 Hisami & Zanmu
    55:31 Games are done, Written Works left HERE WE GO
    55:39 Akyuu & Kosuzu
    56:44 The End (YOU'D THINK, time for Hifuu)
    56:50 Renko & Maribel
    1:00:09 The Ships have Sailed (Outro & some Notes)

    • @514komeiji5
      @514komeiji5 7 месяцев назад +9

      thank you for helping not burn my eyes sometime

    • @Skullgod12
      @Skullgod12 7 месяцев назад +6

      I like how you included the violence warning on mokou x kaguya

    • @diwieolaten8777
      @diwieolaten8777 7 месяцев назад +12

      No Junko and Hecatia 😭

    • @AspreyFM
      @AspreyFM  7 месяцев назад +42

      Thank you I completely forgot to timestamp this one

    • @f.u.m.o.5669
      @f.u.m.o.5669 7 месяцев назад +6

      God, do Koishi x Satori shippers go to Hell?

  • @MxPokirby
    @MxPokirby 19 дней назад +8

    The thumbnail made me hopeful that we'd get to see one giant Touhou polycule be mapped out throughout the entire video

  • @Sorahx1
    @Sorahx1 7 месяцев назад +1400

    My favorite ship is ZUN and his beer

  • @kgibbershnoxss
    @kgibbershnoxss 7 месяцев назад +430

    Can't wait for part 2 where you cover all of the remaining 17,000-19,000 other ones

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 7 месяцев назад +45

      By the time he does that, there will be about 20,000 more.

    • @DryCombee
      @DryCombee 6 месяцев назад +1

      Koishi/Momoyo when?

    • @MrDalek2150
      @MrDalek2150 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@toumaaizen55620,000? I think you dropped about 6 zeroes.

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 4 месяца назад

      @@MrDalek2150 Oh yes I did. But that's cuz I didn't want to worry everyone about the actual number.

    • @maglev957
      @maglev957 4 месяца назад +8

      I did the math (180 squared) and it's AT LEAST 32,400 pairings and that number is most likely lowballing. This isn't even getting into poly ships.

  • @Cypooki
    @Cypooki 7 месяцев назад +293

    40:50 Tenshion expert here, The main interesting thing about Wild and Horned Hermit chapter 45 that makes their relationship really interesting is the fact that, after everyone who attended the banquet hosted by Shion fell ill due to her misfortune, Shion got scared Tenshi might be angry at her but no, she even reassures her at the end of the chapter. You can see that in fanworks with Shion often depicted with abandonment issues

    • @hjt091
      @hjt091 22 дня назад +1

      IIRC ZUN compares Tenshi to Sun Wukong (as in, a supremely powerful and boastful but ultimately good-hearted individual who gets booted out of Heaven for bad behaviour), which certainly makes things interesting now that we've got an actual Wukong 2hu

  • @Edknowsnothing
    @Edknowsnothing 7 месяцев назад +358

    "The more well known ones"
    *Looks at the video lenght*
    Welp this is going to be a long ride

    • @yossithe9031
      @yossithe9031 5 месяцев назад +4

      "ride" pun intended?

  • @IgoSplashman
    @IgoSplashman 5 месяцев назад +38

    15:10 CirnAya:
    In th09 Cirno Ending, Cirno is feeling down and thinks about death and stuff because she got eaten by the giant toad, so Aya comes along and tells her to cheer up (and then gets excited as she's about to do something stupid).
    That's more than enough material for a big sis dynamic.

  • @lottery5795
    @lottery5795 7 месяцев назад +262

    Honestly, this was a really interesting look at Touhou ships and it’s cool to see where some of them originated from. Kinda surprised Kanako/Suwako and Junko/Hecatia didn’t show up though since I think those are both pretty popular.

    • @bearful
      @bearful 7 месяцев назад +47

      the junko/hecatia soldiers on twitter cook so hard to feed the masses its incredible

    • @kyotokiranami
      @kyotokiranami 7 месяцев назад +14

      Kinda disappointed no JunHeca though smh

  • @Pudding404
    @Pudding404 6 месяцев назад +55

    The touhou games are often bare-bones when it comes to interactions, besides the main characters who are very slightly more fleshed out.
    Because of this, characters interacting is noticed alot more.
    Dynasty Reader was and still is a big gateway to this world for me.
    I'm very happy Koishi and Kokoro are mentioned, they both can't express emotions, both for very different reasons. They also meet from Koishi messing around and starting the events of Hopeless Masquerade. But the pair is overshadowed by Koishi x Flandre.

  • @genghisdingus
    @genghisdingus 4 месяца назад +45

    Saw title.
    Was hoping for an explanation of the mail system in Gensokyo.
    I am disappointed.

    • @チーム北京テニクラ
      @チーム北京テニクラ 2 месяца назад +5

      そうですね、幻想郷のメールシステムはどのように機能するのでしょうか?

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask 7 месяцев назад +48

    Youmu and Yuyuko are very enjoyable together. Though I also like to imagine Youmu and Sakuya being friends.

    • @josiahlute7808
      @josiahlute7808 6 месяцев назад +3

      Why are you here

    • @thepanman674
      @thepanman674 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@josiahlute7808 youmu mentioned

    • @Jayverse2007
      @Jayverse2007 2 месяца назад +5

      @@josiahlute7808 youmu mentioned

    • @Momijitheawoo
      @Momijitheawoo 2 месяца назад +1

      Brah I kinda miss your vids ngl but I understand why you quit and respect. I hope you’re doing well.

  • @GiornoGiovannaGangstar
    @GiornoGiovannaGangstar 7 месяцев назад +52

    general RInnosuke fan here! I love his interactions with Marisa AND Reimu a lot, being an older brother type and all that since he makes the girls' clothes and weapons, and no matter what bullshit they put him through he never really ends up kicking them out of his shop. I also love him doing some mentoring towards the two along the line of some interpretations of Yukari (one of my fave Rinno dojins " Imaginative Power of Meiji XX" displays this three way relationship very well) though generally, I find his antics with many of the chars to be top notch.
    Two Dojins which I enjoy a lot that really exemplify his strengths as a character IMO are "Serious Scare: Sealing-Rin" where he's the third wheel to Renko and Maribel and "Remilia's Longing Diary" which is Remilia x Reimu but Rinnosuke acting as a mediator as well as talking about the fact him and Remilia will outlive Reimu. He works best as a "straight man" to all the crazy in Gensokyo for me, someone who you can just chill with and talk about life n stuff I guess.
    No mention of Myouren X Rinnosuke tho unsubbed and reported

    • @darkhorse744
      @darkhorse744 7 месяцев назад +7

      Fellow Rinnosuke lover here.
      I found a great doujin that's more about Marisa, but also has some great Rinnosuke stuff in it.
      It was about fake witches, I'll try to find it, I remember it was on Mangadex though.
      Personally I prefer Byakuren x Rinnosuke, they've canonically met (Rinnosuke brought Laika to her) and they talked for a bit.
      Wish more happened, what with him being the oldest known half-Youkai and all.
      Edit: The doujin is called "The Magician who loved a fake".

  • @MedsieLovr
    @MedsieLovr 7 месяцев назад +71

    25:44 Ah, I remember when I opened Medicine's page on the wiki that exact day, just to remember that Alice is in an arguably worse situation in canon appearances.
    I saw that part of the Stream, roughly around 4 hours if I remember correctly, unfortunately it falls in the category of "ZUN said so" which translates to "ZUN will forget about it once he gets drunk again"
    Daily reminder that ZUN said in PoFV's Medicine ending that she would get along with people more and then proceeded to do nothing about it, not even imply, which is just weird. The Eientei crew (specially Eirin) seemed like the perfect fit yet their interactions after PoFV are limited to fanworks and are uncommon.
    "I just don't get it, why would ZUN make his most masterpiece character just to not include her in anything afterwards?" -Gigachad

    • @toumaaizen556
      @toumaaizen556 7 месяцев назад +1

      Probably wants to save her for something that he knows will do well and add to her character. We don't want another Rey Skywalker.

    • @NokkoGamma
      @NokkoGamma 7 месяцев назад

      As long he still with his beloved beers, then the answer is YES

  • @mrwhiffy2045
    @mrwhiffy2045 7 месяцев назад +68

    I'm shocked that you didn't do anything regarding Kanako and Suwako. I thought that was pretty well known but I guess I was mistaken.
    I guess there was one series of comics I read with Kanako and Suwako basically living together, but I think I remember that really well because it featured Suwako in a suit.

  • @HoneylandUSA
    @HoneylandUSA 7 месяцев назад +9

    2:10 the artists original caption says 'Reimu is Marisa's Wife. Marisa is Reimu's Wife.' the second one featuring a staring contest is also the older one.

  • @DanielRenardAnimation
    @DanielRenardAnimation 7 месяцев назад +50

    So this was the video you'd been mentioning over the course of the past few weeks or so. Splendid job gathering so much footage, as well info on each individual pairing, as well having to learn which pairings were substantial enough to even mention them here; Really, it would be an endless video, addressing everything down to the crackships and love-triangles. Well done! 👏👏👏
    36:09 Aaaay~ 😸

    • @AspreyFM
      @AspreyFM  7 месяцев назад +8

      Your mini was the perfect length for introducing them. It wasn't planned either, yet it perfectly captured their relationship, so how could I not?

  • @eazy7737
    @eazy7737 7 месяцев назад +25

    The way you been talking about this video in the VODs got me hyped. You definitely did not disappoint, great work, Asprey.

  • @icecontrol1
    @icecontrol1 7 месяцев назад +5

    6:18 The funny thing about the fanart of the left is that the same artist has done way more shipping art of the two

  • @virtuallylightblue
    @virtuallylightblue 4 месяца назад +4

    An hour long video on Touhou shipping is what I least expected to see today

  • @drexfivemorning3930
    @drexfivemorning3930 6 месяцев назад +4

    I love that the number of ships in this game series is insanely abundant, so much so that You WILL find at least ONE touhou pair in either wholesome works or unwholesome ones.

  • @azulia888
    @azulia888 7 месяцев назад +29

    I’ll take this occasion to mention my favorite unknown ship : Raiko and Hecatia. I know they never interact, but I feel like if there’s one Gensokyan that Hecatia would respect, it’s Raiko, as Hecatia is pretty big on personal freedom, and Raiko literally bargained her existence to be able to keep hers. I know there’s like 20 artworks of them, but I still really love to see it.
    Also Unzan x Rinnosuke. That one is hilarious and awesome and it makes me happy whenever I see it

    • @dinodude7290
      @dinodude7290 7 месяцев назад +1

      Unzan x rinnosuke my beloved

  • @dorothy726
    @dorothy726 7 месяцев назад +18

    Alice & Marisa holds a special place in my heart since it was the first ship I ran into (& part of what drew me into Touhou as someone who hadn't figured out they were a lesbian yet).
    I hadn't heard of the Yukari & Yuyuko ship before but I absolutely adore it.

  • @zewhatyouwannasay
    @zewhatyouwannasay 7 месяцев назад +20

    A lot of Touhou is based on the relationships between the characters, and this is clearly a rather exhaustive overview of *all* of them, from Reimu x Green Reimu to Ran x Yuuma which I somehow never heard of before. It’s definitely more than a funny little Valentine’s Day treat, this video actually covers a lot of the important info someone getting into Touhou will learn. These videos never cease to impress!
    Also that Pastebin is massive!

    • @mikubrot
      @mikubrot 7 месяцев назад

      ranyuuma has only really appeared after th19, because of them once knowing eachother. apparently ran used to live in the animal realm

  • @SpiritofFive
    @SpiritofFive 7 месяцев назад +3

    I know it's only in one fan-work (two if you count the sequel), but I really liked the Osana Reimu ship of older Rumia and Reimu's mom.

  • @TheKoakuma
    @TheKoakuma 6 месяцев назад +2

    And as usual PC-98 shipping got limited to the quartet and those gems weren't covered
    - ReiMei (Reimu x Meira the canon "You are a girl, I see no problems here")
    - ShinMa (Shinki x Mima, It's MariAli for grown-ups)
    - ShinByaku and ShinSari (Sariel x Shinki and Shinki x Byakuren, The three Makai Girls)
    - YukiMai (Yuki x Mai)
    - YumeChiyu, YumeSumi, YumeRenko, (Probability Space Hypervessel x Hifuu)
    - KonnSari (The first final bosses together)
    Looking forward for the 2nd chapter

  • @crosssilver6375
    @crosssilver6375 6 месяцев назад +2

    2:19 Knew exactly which picture you were going to show when you mentioned that XD
    Fun bits about Randou. He's an american artist considered by many japanese fan as king of yuri, and he does ReiMari a lot back in the day. Also guess what
    ZUN IS FRIEND OF RANDOU
    Our beer lord ZUN must be onto something considering he also hired ReiMari mangaka to do his official works(Aki Eda, Azmaya etc.) We just need to let him cook more
    Anyways ReiMari is my comfort ship, MeiSaku/MokoKeine comes second

  • @rossjones8656
    @rossjones8656 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm beginning my journey and i don't know if i should be scared.

  • @billman__1010
    @billman__1010 7 месяцев назад +12

    If you ever are gonna do a follow-up to this video, there’s a lot of ships you didn’t cover, and just some notable exclusions that somehow slipped by include:
    • Kanako & Suwako
    • Mamizou & Nue
    • Hecatia & Junko
    • Okina & Yukari
    • Yachie & Saki (or Keiki)
    • Megumu & Chimata (and/or Tsukasa and/or Momoyo, UM’s polycule is weird man)

  • @IceWrenSolstice
    @IceWrenSolstice 7 месяцев назад +2

    The RenMari slander! What I also think contributes to their shipping is that the original hifuu tracks feel more melancholic than most Touhou songs. I feel like there is always at least one track that makes me think something devastating is gonna happen to them in the future. Also, have you seen Marisa's reaction to Reimu dying in Wild and Horned Hermit? That sealed the deal for me that ReiMari is the best Marisa ship.

  • @pinkcultgirl
    @pinkcultgirl 7 месяцев назад +36

    for me, touhou shipping is a very comforting place as a lesbian. the sheer amount of yuri- that takes all different shapes and sizes- thanks to so many talented artists is a safe haven away from real life to me sometimes. i really do appreciate the community so much, and how it's shaped online yuri culture from the get-go :> it was a shocking treat to have a character like hisami come out this summer and totally blow the old "every 2hu is straight" cope and seeth bs out of the water, and I'm exited to see the new age of yuri that she brings :3

    • @molluscumlore
      @molluscumlore 7 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah it was certainly funny seeing the change from the hentai only touhou fans where it's like "no one's gay you're just delusional!" to trying desperately to come up with some reasoning for why hisami is somehow not gay for zanmu lol. But yeah there's so much touhou yuri I spent a while some time back hyperfixating on reading all of it that was available in english and still didn't come close to finishing. Another fun thing is that I believe that every single author ZUN has had make official touhou manga has written touhou yuri, mostly even before they got officially involved. Aya azuma loves reimari especially

    • @AllVoiceHowdy
      @AllVoiceHowdy 7 месяцев назад +10

      ​​@@molluscumloreare you saying hentai only touhou fans arr homophobic? If so, I beg to differ and you are completely wrong, in fact the opposite >:(
      also yeah 99% of 2hu manga artists have yuri works, its amazement

    • @wx84
      @wx84 6 месяцев назад +1

      If I can recall, there still aren’t any official ships since hisami’s obsession or infatuation with zanmu is an admiration type situation, the kind you would have for a leader or master instead of a romantic one.
      (Don’t attack me please I’m just correcting misinformation)

    • @molluscumlore
      @molluscumlore 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@wx84 Nah, it's very much a lesbian type obsession. I played the game and saw the english translation, and compared a couple key lines to raw japanese and can confirm even if it's not romantic (which is doubtful. At least, in het pairs romance coming with attraction is taken as a given) it's very much sexual lol. She's not like "Fuck me zanmu!!" or anything because that's not ZUN's style, but she very much is trying to make zanmu punish her with a tone that only a masochist would be written as having.
      Like, "If you're feeling bad you can step on me, zanmu." is a line that she says. The raw doesn't *exactly* say "step on me", but it does use an onomatopoeia for punishment and saying "beat me" or "punish me" are equally suggestive.
      Not an attack on you, just saying it's very much canon lol

    • @wx84
      @wx84 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@molluscumlore Hmm I got told that there was an error in the translation and that the actual meaning is not romantic, which makes sense since ZUN doesn’t add romance in his games…. but I guess that’s a problem that can happen when translating other languages
      Also is masochism inherently sexual or romantic? I don’t know much about that specific subject sorry

  • @telestare
    @telestare 7 месяцев назад +2

    I'm amazed you shortened this to one hour

  • @goodgamer1419
    @goodgamer1419 7 месяцев назад +14

    hell yeah less beans

  • @monedooo
    @monedooo 7 месяцев назад +4

    AN HOUR dear god

  • @Wapcvm
    @Wapcvm 6 месяцев назад +2

    You forgot my favorite ship. All of them at the same time.

  • @tastefullynerdy1161
    @tastefullynerdy1161 7 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly, shipping - alongside the music and fangames - is my main reason for having been a Touhou fan for more than 12 years. And what can I say... YukaYuyu is my Genskyo.
    Especially because with the right amount of brain acrobatics and the right mindset, you can ship everyone with everyone and it doesn't really come across as pure crack, all the while still forming adorable couples that are just wholesome. Shipping Shinki and Sariel? Weird but Sariel lives in hell, is an angel of Death and powerful, so maybe she's one of Shinki's earliest creations. Shinki x Mima? Easy, mega powerful bosses that just happen to be maternal figures of one of the most popular ship. Yuyuko x Eiki? Eiki is Yuyuko's boss, giving us a classic lazy employee vs strict boss dynamic. Youmu x Ran? Servants of my personal OTP who probably see each other often. Kanako x Chimata? Two goddesses who can bond over their love for money and mercantilism etc. etc.
    Shipping is an essential part of Touhou to me and as much a never-ending rabbit-hole as the music and fanworks.

  • @GarbageFire13
    @GarbageFire13 7 месяцев назад +3

    As a Doremy simp I will never understand why she gets shipped with Sagume, other than tenuous crap like "Sagume ordered Doremy to make a Lunar Capital copy" and "they're next to each other on the stage list." My best guess is the extrovert / introvert thing like with Parsee and Yuugi, but Doremy ain't half as extroverted as Yuugi is. As for me, I don't have much enthusiasm for shipping, but if I had to pick an OTP it'd be Reimu and Marisa solely for the immeasurable amount of history they have (and also I'm a basic bitch).

  • @systemrestart120
    @systemrestart120 7 месяцев назад +2

    Was surprised you didn't mention any of the Nue pairings......... Kogasa/Nue and Murasa/Nue were kinda big back when UFO first came out. Kogasa/Murasa to a lesser extent, too. Maybe they've completely fallen off though.........

  • @lazydelibird
    @lazydelibird 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dylan is really getting a lot of mileage out of that Alice image.

  • @TeeV479
    @TeeV479 7 месяцев назад +2

    suprised for the lack of suwako and kanako, I could have sworn they were shipped a lot...

  • @kirbykraver8792
    @kirbykraver8792 7 месяцев назад +1

    I always find it kind of funny that Aya x Cirno is a decently popular ship for both when, ignoring fanon reasons (Cirno wouldn't care about the newspaper enough to be bothered by Aya's antics, Aya is a crow yokai and would be attracted to Cirno's shiny wings, etc.), their one significant interaction in canon in PoFV is "Aya talks Cirno out of an existential crisis." But hey, if it works, it works. I̶ ̶k̶i̶n̶d̶a̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶,̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶l̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶t̶h̶ ̶c̶h̶a̶r̶a̶c̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶c̶u̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶l̶.̶

  • @ariyashii
    @ariyashii 7 месяцев назад +7

    As a fresh Touhou fan your videos have been amazing in learning about the franchise, but as an obnoxious lesbian obsessed with shipping this one feels MADE FOR ME, so thank you!
    Also I feel like the aspect that makes Mokou and Kaguya interesting outside of the hate-love dynamic is that they are both immortals, so I've seen a lot of works focusing on them basically finding strange solace in each other that they are unable to find in anyone else. The immortal yuri of it all.

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum 7 месяцев назад +10

    As a topic I find myself quite passionate about, as a guy who got his start writing fanfic for the things he loves, this is without a doubt my favorite video you've ever done. It's enlightening, it's validating, it's funny, and it gets me thinking about character pairs I may have just left for granted! My favorite ships are Aya/Momiji, Yukari/Yuyuko, Meiling/Sakuya, Youmu/Reisen, Yuugi/Parsee, Seiga/Yoshika (as toxic yuri as you like), as well as Reimu/Most people and Marisa/Most people, including each other (there's just too much potential with both of them). I will admit, Double Spoiler's release did a number on my blood pressure as I had to deal with a thousand "um actually" comments about how all my Aya/Momiji fanfic was now _wrong_ and _not canon_ and _must be purged,_ but like you said, it's an interesting challenge to make that ship work alongside Double Spoiler, but I choose to believe that ZUN was just fucking around and thought it would be funny and thus I am free to ignore it. That ship and the very specific dynamic I've hit on with it is _very important_ to me and I refuse to discard it just because a fucking side game said I have to. Now that I have a new entry into the top tier all time favorite Touhous with Sannyo, I'll have to put in the legwork and find someone to ship her with post-haste!
    Regarding Seija/Shinmo, I know you said you have your issues with how the pairing is played out because it seems to be based on a foundation of "Seija lied, Shinmo didn't care, now they kiss", and I'm very, very rusty on any character past UFO because I haven't been as closely linked to the 2hu fandom as I used to be so this may be entirely unfounded. But based on the way you described it, it seems like you could easily found a relationship there with a foundation of "Seija lied to get what she wanted, Shinmo forgave her because she's simply empathetic and doesn't hold grudges, and Seija was so confused by someone being forgiving to her that she began to cherish that unknown feeling", because from what I recall, most people don't like Seija and the feeling is often mutual. Perhaps Shinmo just managed to pierce that iron guard on Seija's heart with a well-placed "I forgive you"?

  • @mbmproductions9217
    @mbmproductions9217 7 месяцев назад +1

    i know nothing about touhou but i still studied this video harder than my lectures in college

  • @wyoming2868
    @wyoming2868 7 месяцев назад +30

    my favorite ship is rinnosuke x me

    • @zacharyyoungblood7013
      @zacharyyoungblood7013 7 месяцев назад +11

      I ship rinnosuke x you

    • @MeatBread003
      @MeatBread003 4 месяца назад +3

      My favorite ship it X=tenshi×me÷√(suika) so Now what number it X

  • @runicrhythm3266
    @runicrhythm3266 19 дней назад +2

    I'm deeply disturbed at the lack of gay dolls mentioned in this video. Rioting in the Touhou fandom until Shanghai and Hourai get more recognition.

  • @gunmunz
    @gunmunz 7 месяцев назад +1

    I REALLY hope ZUN follows up on MikoSaki Ether in a manga or maybe one of the side games. Just the potential of drama. Like imagine you were forced to leave your pet dog behind when you moved away only for it to show up on your doorstep years later...and its a mafia don.

  • @harryavocad0
    @harryavocad0 7 месяцев назад +4

    What a timing, just finished watching your touhou introduction video and there is another one. Now gotta jump into touhou rabbit hole

  • @jungleboyayaya
    @jungleboyayaya 7 месяцев назад +5

    This video was very much well worth the build up wow
    also seeing my own art at 21:49 was surreal lol

  • @uboa8548
    @uboa8548 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm going to take it upon myself to singlehandedly make Orin x Chiyari popular.

    • @AllVoiceHowdy
      @AllVoiceHowdy 7 месяцев назад

      I HATE YOU, I WROTE AN ENTIRE WRITE-UP FOR THIS SHIP, until I realized I misread chiyari from 19 to chiYUri from PC98, whatever have this mystery plot to throw away into abyss...
      In the transition point between PC98 and Windows, and a calamity event occured wiping out every PC98 character, all dead in an instant, not even reimu knows how this happened... chiyuri is one of the effected victims (that may not actually make sense, but ignore that...)
      Orin being tasked with looking for corpses discovers a huge pile of deceased youkai, however the few deceased humans interests her...
      Before the event, Yumemi and Chiyuri stayed behind in gensokyo to truly understand the power of magic, discovery of immortality being one of them (what? dont think about it, WHATEVER)
      Chiyuri has no knowledge of the incident, However Orin is close to a particular youkai capable of dealing with the situation...
      Detective Satori, is called in to go over the mysterious event erasing the existence of an entire era, with the help of a surviving witness, and her trusty feline companion.

  • @jeffreyppg8390
    @jeffreyppg8390 7 месяцев назад +25

    I love yuyukari

  • @nathanaeldean6301
    @nathanaeldean6301 3 месяца назад

    "Engaging in behaviour that would make her mother cry"
    Considering who (fanon views as) her mother, I think those would be tears of joy

  • @Sambath-oc8ss
    @Sambath-oc8ss 7 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly, I kinda wish you talked about Miko x Tojiko as it is a ship that I find have the strongest foundation as Tojiko is based on Prince Shoutoku's wife. Would be an interesting topic.

  • @superj1e2z6
    @superj1e2z6 7 месяцев назад +36

    2hu1: Hi.
    2hu2: Kiss now.

  • @DeadMedia-vf4je
    @DeadMedia-vf4je Месяц назад

    The main explanation for the Ship of Cirno and Aya comes from Cirno’s Ending in Touhou 9
    After Cirno gets a Talking by Eiki she goes to a lake thinking about her own mortality Aya did come along and help her out of her slump

  • @DeadMedia-vf4je
    @DeadMedia-vf4je 6 месяцев назад +2

    44:32 I can explain this one
    In KKHTA Part 3 Koishi and Flandre where Seen Battling against each other after the Episode ended there was some art in the credits showing them being best friends and the Creator of KKHTA would sometimes make wholesome art of both Flandre and Koishi ignoring the fact that there Violent against each other so this is less of a ship and more best friends
    So yea this was created by the guy
    The guy who made KKHTA as he’s actually really good at making wholesome stuff witch is weird because he created KKHTA

  • @KuruSeed
    @KuruSeed 3 месяца назад

    nice that someone recognizes friend is a part of ships

  • @RaKKiDei
    @RaKKiDei 7 месяцев назад +10

    Just for any Toyosatomimi no Miko enthusiast out there, there's an "animated" series by Kawayabug called Horned Owl & Bat (ミミズクとコウモリ) here on RUclips with one of the most curious ships I've ever found: MikoRemi. They're surprisingly compatible and the author has by far my most favorite interpretation of Miko.
    Btw, MokouKeine best ship (?)

  • @interdimensionalcommunicat9750
    @interdimensionalcommunicat9750 7 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of people in the comments are like "why didn't you bring up this ship here?". One that I haven't seen mentioned by anyone is Okina/Flandre. I don't really like it at all, but its absurdly popular in Japan despite getting no attention in the west whatsoever. Like, I don't think most western Touhou fans even know it exists despite how much fanart it gets. (It has 112 images on pixiv, for comparison Yuuma/Ran which is in this video only has 42, and Hisami/Zanmu has 107). Yuuma and Flandre was also a thing for a while but it seems to have been completely eradicated by Yuuma/Ran and Okina/Flandre.

    • @heavenlyfrosted
      @heavenlyfrosted 7 месяцев назад

      Okina/Flandre sounds interesting... Curious what the dynamic is!

  • @Eternal-moon
    @Eternal-moon Месяц назад

    Is this really my introduction to touhou?

  • @mythicalmew6054
    @mythicalmew6054 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dang, not even a single Tewi mention in the list of ships.

  • @anonyslime
    @anonyslime 7 месяцев назад +6

    I have to wonder if the majority of Kanako+Suwako end up in a general Moriya Family/shrine type tag

  • @AstolfoPendragon
    @AstolfoPendragon 2 месяца назад

    To explain cirno and aya, if you seen the ending of cirnos ending, where aya tells cirno that life is worth living... then yeah...

  • @lyncario5515
    @lyncario5515 7 месяцев назад +8

    I'd like to make a special shout-out to Miko X Tojiko for being the most canon Touhou ship because of how Tojiko seems to be based on Tojiko no Iratsume, who was one of the wives of Prince Shoutoku. While not the most popular of ships for Miko, I personally really like it, especially when they're depicted as really loyal to each others, as after all not even death managed to separate them.

  • @bearful
    @bearful 7 месяцев назад +2

    keine & mokou made me realize i was gay and loved seeing women in love which is really funny in hindsight😭 i was raised in a super christian household so i was like "its okay if only women exist and keine is so dedicated" lmao
    thanks for the video.

    • @bearful
      @bearful 7 месяцев назад

      oh also, shou does appear out of her debut game in double spoiler (iirc), where one of her spell cards just has her rush aya like a tiger, abandoning her "devout" nature in favor of the beast. many fanworks (and ones of her her wirh nazrin) thematize that inner conflict iirc

  • @imperishableneet
    @imperishableneet 6 месяцев назад

    You missed Kaguya/Eirin, that's a pretty big one (Help Me Eirin, etc.), and one of the ships more grounded in canon with the main plot of IN. It also nicely parallels Mokou/Keine.

  • @kaktakx
    @kaktakx 5 месяцев назад

    How do you realize shipping in touhou project? Flying creatures using flying cargo ships that moves out of planet, and if atmosphere spreads, that means they can breath further.

  • @pokedisney33
    @pokedisney33 16 дней назад

    MeiSaku is my touhou otp but I also really like reisana, terumoko, byakumiko, suwakana, alimari, and yukayuyu :D

  • @Iris_Descent
    @Iris_Descent 7 месяцев назад +2

    I'm kinda funny with shipping in Touhou. With a select few exceptions, I honestly don't care much for the popular ships? I rather prefer some out there rarepairs. I'll keep shipping Youmu and Futo together and no one will stop me.
    Oh and also two characters from two fangames that were made by two different teams. Though one of which Dylan has played, which is kinda funny.

    • @AllVoiceHowdy
      @AllVoiceHowdy 7 месяцев назад

      youmu and futo... how did you even think about that? is it some history thing with their historical figures?

    • @Iris_Descent
      @Iris_Descent 7 месяцев назад

      "They're my favorites and it'd be cute"
      that's it

    • @AllVoiceHowdy
      @AllVoiceHowdy 7 месяцев назад

      @@Iris_Descent pathetic, wheres the meeting scenario? wheres the unique dynamic? where the conflict of their relations? you can try to relate Miko's historical lineage to Yuyuko's and build off from there. >:((

    • @Iris_Descent
      @Iris_Descent 7 месяцев назад

      Never said I was a master writer.

    • @AllVoiceHowdy
      @AllVoiceHowdy 7 месяцев назад

      @@Iris_Descent neither am I, have a nice day Q~Q

  • @Cyberpuncher
    @Cyberpuncher 7 месяцев назад +1

    No Saki/Yachie is surprising.
    It seems at least half of their fan art is with each other

  • @misdre0111
    @misdre0111 5 месяцев назад

    I am a doremy/sagume enjoyer and also have no explanation for you, other than that their designs look good together with a dreamy purple&soft vibe. doremy is one of my favourite characters and LoLK my favourite game, I saw art of them, I ship it because why not. (and because I'm thirsty)
    I have a feeling that a lot of shipping is based on just liking the pretty art tbh

  • @CerealKiller
    @CerealKiller 7 месяцев назад +3

    This is a spicy meatball of a Touhou video, thanks!

  • @jonfitzpatrick9942
    @jonfitzpatrick9942 7 месяцев назад

    Cuz hittin' cybershell levels of straight meme-ery. Hour long video of imaginary relationships is why I'm On youtube.
    Any Doujin that ends with a happy Erin is a good doujin

  • @eeveefrisk5659
    @eeveefrisk5659 7 месяцев назад

    “And what you’re here for, the yuri dynamic.”
    well i’ve called out

  • @justinsanchez6255
    @justinsanchez6255 7 месяцев назад

    One of my favorite head cannon about Marisa and Rinnosuke relationships I've read is that Rinnosuke scams Marisa on the price of things while ignoring her stealing and he feels bad about scamming her. But Marisa knows he's scamming her and she thinks he never notices that she steals from him.

  • @riotef2493
    @riotef2493 3 месяца назад

    My favorite crackship is Reimu/Flandre. The ship comes from Marissa's EoSD extra stage where she talks about marriage in reference to the nursery rhyme Flandre's ""and then there were none" spellcard is named after. Flandre asks who she would marry and Marissa offers to introduce her to a "girl at a shrine""

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo Месяц назад +1

      ReimuRemilia and MarisaFlandre are better

  • @flyingrafts7287
    @flyingrafts7287 6 месяцев назад

    I'm the kind of person who needs to watch a channel for a while and see a good amount of their videos to subscribe... I instantly subscribed when I heard 6:53

  • @ShadekyuNTG
    @ShadekyuNTG 7 месяцев назад

    i never really think about character shipping but i like idea of Orin & Goutokuji

  • @Rapture-t3m
    @Rapture-t3m 7 месяцев назад +4

    Bro, a friend sent me this video saying this is an animation of the devourer of gods from calamity. 💀
    I was asking for the other hard game

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 7 месяцев назад

    That was it for UFO
    Me: No Kogabanki? That ones big enough even lost word ships them... oh wait it's under DDC

  • @AngryAragami
    @AngryAragami 7 месяцев назад +1

    The first rule of Secret Sealing Club is we don't talk about Hifu.
    The second rule of Secret Sealing Club is *we don't talk about Hifu*.
    .....
    This is why it only has three members.

    • @TheKoakuma
      @TheKoakuma 6 месяцев назад

      I still have an kind of headcanon that Yumemi is Renko's professor and the one who made up the path to Hifuu exist with her failed thesis

  • @marcar9marcar972
    @marcar9marcar972 7 месяцев назад +1

    14:30 Cirno no! Get out of there!

  • @ANYNKevin
    @ANYNKevin 7 месяцев назад +1

    I already knew this was going to be special but it’s even better lol.
    The cropped images for comedy and the Alicegasm emote from busy person being used in the best possible places is a cherry on top

    • @ANYNKevin
      @ANYNKevin 7 месяцев назад +1

      Also, Keiki/Mayumi, and Keiki/Chimata has been a recent set that’s really growing on me as of recently as it’s really nice (especially Keiki/Mayumi)

  • @joseal8340
    @joseal8340 7 месяцев назад +1

    You really outdid yourself with this one, it was incredibly fun to watch, your editing is the best it's been, and the writing was very entertaining, even when i was already knowledgeable about the pairings it was very interesting hearing you go into detail about them.
    Shame ReiRemi didn't get talked about but i guess it's not as big as i wish it was huh.

  • @AposineYT
    @AposineYT 2 месяца назад

    This is very important research.

  • @annaairahala9462
    @annaairahala9462 7 месяцев назад +4

    I remember years ago when minusT and some others started posting "Yukayuyu is god" daily

  • @corbeauwrite
    @corbeauwrite 7 месяцев назад +4

    top tier video, you are insane

  • @marcar9marcar972
    @marcar9marcar972 7 месяцев назад

    15:27 Probably not the cause but I know they have a great dynamic in Gensokyo Defenders

  • @mhajose-ke
    @mhajose-ke 7 месяцев назад +2

    No Okina/Yukari
    (OkiYuka) 😭😭😭

  • @marupan_desu
    @marupan_desu 7 месяцев назад +3

    The best ship is Patchouli and Asthma

  • @0jacon0ice0
    @0jacon0ice0 6 месяцев назад +4

    It’s hilarious how little Tojiko and Miko get paired too. Considering canon marriage and all

  • @rickstar5773
    @rickstar5773 4 месяца назад +1

    Just out of curiosity if anyone's willing to answer. What's some of the fangames' names of those shown on screen? The one at 10:06 in particular

    • @HyperVanilo
      @HyperVanilo Месяц назад

      The Genious of Sappheiros

  • @aaronkelly1762
    @aaronkelly1762 7 месяцев назад

    45:37 Not only did she show up, but she pulled out a gun... Why isn't anyone talking about that?

  • @iam9991000
    @iam9991000 7 месяцев назад +4

    I love your thumbnails.

  • @gamefreakDX
    @gamefreakDX 3 месяца назад

    I'm trying to find the game you showcase at 59:24, but I couldn't find it even with tons of Google searches.

  • @Ravensgale
    @Ravensgale 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Touhou shipping community - like most shipping communities - is... A unique one. At least it's not as bad as the Genshin shipping community, but it probably because unlike MiHoYo, ZUN doesn't capitulate to belligerence.

  • @AX-ROSE
    @AX-ROSE 7 месяцев назад

    Very good video. I was kinda disappointed Oil Fire (Sanae/Tsukasa) wasn't covered, but given that ship is A: very new and B: not that popular except in pretty insular communities. But hey, regardless, still a fun vid

  • @MrLunarias
    @MrLunarias 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great breakdown, and yeah even when one doesn't really like a character or pairing the art and stories can be really neat!
    One extremely uncommon pairing I personally really like for that aspect is Medicine X Yamame. They're both seen as relatively hated youkai by humans and their abilities involving poison and illness are rather complementary. It's fun to imagine them getting up to hijinks together, or working together to somehow use their normally hated powers in more positive ways. After all, both of their powers are never stated to only be usable in a negative way.

  • @dr.bentovisky7203
    @dr.bentovisky7203 7 месяцев назад +1

    i wish there was more Marisa x Byakuren, its arguably the most underrated in my opinion. Can we please get a light on this pls

  • @Bob-bs9ok
    @Bob-bs9ok 7 месяцев назад +1

    As a Reimu x Yukari enjoyer, you get a mom x daughter relationship but without incest (a solid plus)

  • @terrenceswiff
    @terrenceswiff 7 месяцев назад

    For Doremy and Sagume, there's a heavy implication from Sagume making a request of Doremy, the ruler of dreams, that she has kept secret even from her own people. It assumes a huge amount of trust. Similarly, Doremy ultimately ignored Sagume, right? Well, that was after a loooooong time, and her reason when she sent people along was that she assumed they could resolve things. Further, when Sagume sees that people have made it to the frozen capital, she isn't angry at Doremy. The ship is very, very, "you have to read between the lines", but essentially it is evident that Doremy and Sagume seem to trust each other IMMENSELY. Doremy let an ENTIRE SOCIETY hide in her precious realm, Sagume asked Doremy to essentially save her entire race and society--an insane and baffling ask that Doremy nonetheless respected. Of course, Sagume didn't "ask" Doremy though--she "ordered" Doremy to do that. But I dunno, I never interpreted that as Sagume "ranking above" Doremy seeing as they're from different worlds. It seems a lot of fanartists agreed, possibly because of Doremy's defiance and own "ruler" status? Overall, tl;dr There is a very strong relationship of trust implied by the inciting incidents of LoLK that make it evident that Doremy trusts Sagume a lot and Sagume trusts Doremy a lot and the two of them are likely "close" in some way. Sadly, canon doesn't use Sagume very much, and when it does Doremy isn't involved.