2 Years With the Tool Wall and What I Want to Change
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I have had this tool wall for almost 2 years and have been enjoying it immensely! but there are a few things I would like to change.
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It suddenly dawned on me how space efficient hand tools are! With that one wall you can measure, mark, saw, drill, plane, form and join just about anything.
I have a 20ft x 20ft cellar minus stairs, furnace, oil tank and chimney. With a table saw, band saw, compound miter saw, drill press and powered hand tools, it seems I'll never have enough space.
I know this is an "old" video, but I just found your channel a couple of months ago (it's great). The takeaway in this video was the chisels. I have a French cleat wall with a chisel holder I thought would be cool, but the design (not mine) just isn't good. Chisels are all blade up with various sized openings to accept them with spacing inline. Yeah, it's cool if you use one chisel once or twice per year. Your chisel holder is better.
That's a great layout in such a small work space. You're the most organized hoarder in history. Haha! Keep up the great work.
Lol. Thanks man!
To be completely impractical, but mildly photogenic, I have an absurd idea for the big Roubo frame saw. It's a "frame" saw. Make 2 smaller saw/plane/file tills that fit within the 2 halves of the saw frame. Then, the frame saw frames the tills, and you can still pull the saw out from around the tills when you need to use it.
I would put a small lip on the front top of the tills that the saw rests behind to prevent it from falling. Oh, and put the frame saw's teeth towards the wall so you don't inadvertently slice your hand wide open when you reach for something and miss.
Lastly, I think that idol in the corner needs to be wielding a frame saw. With it and the float, he will ward off anything that comes into the shop.
Lol I like it. Tycus makes a lot of discutions.
Very nice tool wall. I think you need to look at getting a few more wood planes and wooden mallets. I think its definitely possible that you don't have every single size and shape. 😂
You can store your frame saws just where they are. Place each frame saw holder on hinges and simply swing the offending saws out until the one you want is obtainable. Then swing them back like closing a book. Each saw is on its own page. This is storing them flat but swinging them out where they would normally be in the way. You could even add a 'page' for something else that is flattish and is on the outside (or inside ).
I would also look into using the wasted space that makes up the innards of each saw. Your corner chisel or rarely used items could be placed there. With this leaf filing system you might get 2-3 square feet of extra wall space.
I'm going to use your plane storage method. It's simple, accessible and looks good.
Because I was late to Wood by Wright I binge watched a lot of these videos, and it’s definitely under two years since I them as I haven’t been woodworking two years yet. I’m quickly beginning to realise that a tool wall is the answer for my tiny workshop. A very interesting and useful video, thank you James.
Thanks Mark. It is a very efficient way of working and can be done very well in a small shop.
Thanks for the critique of your tool wall. I’m still working on mine. This helped.
Nice. Looking forward to seeing it!
I’ve been looking at so many videos, Google images and Pinterest for ideas for my hand tool wall and I have to say, you have the best looking set up...
Thanks. I would love to see yours once you get it set up
I like it maximising the space and not have gaps every where in between tools like I see in other videos !
Thanks Ron.
James I totally agree about having a tool wall vs a cabinet. They are just so much more convenient. I’m in a air conditioned basement shop like you and a year ago I did a build video for all my hand tools as well. It’s about 5x8 and got filled up super quick. I went with vertical plane storage like you but I incorporated magnets just to secure everything a little more. Over all tool walls are the way to go in my opinion. Everything is at a arms reach and you don’t have to open anything. Great video brother.
Nice. Right on brother
You have an open rafter system in your shop. Run your frame saws parallel, hanging from the ceiling on hooks.
By the way thank you for the response of the e-mail. I wish I had found your channel a couple years ago.
Thanks! If it was a normal shop I would do that. But as a video studio. They would get in the shot too easily and get in the way of the lights. Plus I like the look on the backdrop. Lol videographer problems.
Great rundown of the old shop James. Really like the saw till too!
Thanks. My pleasure!
I love that wall. You are extremely organized and a great hoarder Of fine old tools. I have a shop twice your size and can’t get it to look as good as yours. But I think you’ve been doing this a lot longer than I have. Love your channel. Thanks for your great videos and all the knowledge exchanged!! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
Thanks Rico. That means a lot!
Excellent points! You just gave me an "obvious" idea for my workbench. My "shop" is about as big as yours, but I have other hobby items jammed in there. Great video! Thanks for all the great ideas and lessons!
Thanks my pleasure!
Oh no, we all love that wall...but we do have confidence in you James...cheers...rr
LOL thanks man!
I discovered years ago that a standard milk crate fits between my joists. Then I figured out that it's pretty easy to flatten a metal stud channel & cut a length that I can bend into a squared-off U and screw it to the rafters, making a hanging metal shelf that will hold the crate. And if I don't touch it for two months, I consider crating it overhead.
Interesting!
re. frame saws, you could have a set of hooks hanging underneath an outrigger/bracket, and hang each saw from one of the hooks. Smallest in front to largest in back. Then you can pull out one at a time.
Enjoy yes Love the Tool wall!!
Thanks Jerry!
Love the Dad joke!
Hey Jim, I love your shop. It’s a piece of art in and of itself. I’ve enjoyed watching you make all of this stuff so I appreciate you going back and reviewing it like this. It’s given me some things to think about for my own shop. Thanks!
I’m sure you’ve given what to do with your frame saws no end of thought and have some pretty primo ideas for what to do with them. A thought I had was that perhaps you can suspend them from the joists overhead. I don’t mean hanging down, I mean like flat, parallel to the ceiling using a set of hooks, maybe or something that they can slide into.
Whatever you end up doing it with them, I can’t wait to see it!
My thoughts too!
Thanks. I do not do that for 3 reasons. 1 most of the rafters are taken with lights or other storage already. 2 they tend to get in the shots if I put much more up there. 3 I like to be able to have them on the wall as it makes a good backdrop. Mostly these are just issues as I shoot videos. So for most people that would work perfectly!
Making racks for the files and rasps that are similar to the chisel rack would/should tidy up that area and concentrate the file and rasp density down by some amount. Plus the slots for each file and rasp would avoid accidental "kissing" of hard steel to hard steel. A big factor when keen sharp teeth counts for so much. To deal with the number of slots needed and different file sizes perhaps start with a two times thickness board, bore different size holes down through the width then rip down the center to end up with two boards with half round circles of different radii? Size 'em so the small flat, square and round and half round files fit the smaller half moons and the bigger flat and half round fit the bigger sizes? That might be easier than doing all the saw cuts that would otherwise be needed?
I like your idea of dowels or pegs instead of the short grain on that lower rack. It would be a lot more durable in the longer run.
Other than that the tool wall is a great feature. And as you say for the way you work it's very likely THE best solution. Some things like you say might need fine tuning but the ease of tool access and replacement makes this solution for your situation the best option of all.
I hope to have a shop one day where I have at least half the tools you do.
Looking forward to seeing what you make.
One small suggestion, regarding your frame saws. Personally, I would try hanging them horizontally from the bottom of the ceiling joists, side by side. Just a thought... BTW. Love your videos...
Thanks. If it was a normal shop I would do that. But as a video studio. They would get in the shot too easily and get in the way of the lights. Plus I like the look on the backdrop. Lol videographer problems.
cant believe i watched you do all this and at that time I had been a sub for a long time. that being said i still love the file rack, and until someone comes up with something better its probably the best file storage idea in the world , okay bud I gotta go highway-cop.
LOL thanks man I do like how easy it is to see and grab them.
It's an awesome wall James - thanks for the review. I reckon it works so well because you followed your instincts in making it and laying it out, rather than following generic principles. There's a ton of great ideas in it that could be applied to many individual needs. One day I'll get round to building a tool cabinet and will use several of them inside it. (I have an unheated, detached garage 8n the UK so damp is a real issue!)
Thanks Robert! Looking forward to seeing yours.
Very clever title.
Lol thanks!
Cool video, thanks James. Maybe for the frame saws, you could do a bigger version of your file storage so each frame saw sort of leans out a bit. It would take up a little more space, but might make it easier to grab the one you want to use.
That is an interesting idea. I might have to play with that.
This is the best visual and verbal description of the functionality of the back wall for me. As for the framing saws, have you thought of a swivel style rack for them. Just a thought.
Thanks. I have thought about something like that. But the mecanics have always stopped me
I also have a small shop. My frame saws sit flat against the rafters with tabs on one end and swivel clips mad from small pieces of oak holding the other end. They occupy to much precious wall space now :)
I like your tools wall!
Maybe consider swapping the location of the spoke shaves with the files and rasps so you can build a little tool cabinet with the inner swinging panels so you can mount the tools on both sides for 2-4 times as much storage in that space that you can still easily look through to find the one you want to use?
Or just add a swinging door to that area that you can store on both sides?
Also, maybe place a swing down shelf you can mount between the ceiling joists?
I have also thought of mounting them long wise out from the wall, bit as a video studio. I like to be able to see them in the background. We will see what the future holds though.
Here's a suggestion on the file rasp rack.... which I love. Instead of building it out to 3".... Just bore multiple holes at the top of the bins and insert / glue stub dowels that protrude to the inside perhaps an inch or so.. to prevent the items from falling sideways. Maybe just as many as you need for the long stuff.
Going to watch tool wall video; interested in what kind of woods were used as its very beautiful variety.
Thanks. It is mostly scrap I had on hand. A lot of white oak, cherry and walnut. The stuff grows o. Trees around here. Lol
For the plane toggles, it works better to make them with the grain going vertical. Also with the saw till, a drawer at the bottom really cleans it up.
My first one had the toggles vertical, but they broke more often as how thin they would have to be otherwise they take up too much space. a lot of people like drawers.
Beer fridge is missing....
I'm 18 months into tool wall v1.0, displaying "every tool I owned". Now I'm more realistic, with less than 15 go-to tools and a tiny floor mini-bench, I'll either LTS (long term store) the less used tools or give 'em to my kids. Cheers $0.02
Nice I do the same. all of my little used tools are in storage or given to others. but as I have to demonstrate different tools ans methods I do not think I will ever be down to 15 again any time soon.
As far as your frame saws go I'd make some hinged arms like pages of a book. Put pegs or hooks on each arm to hang saws off of. Want a saw just fold the arms out. Or fold them all to the wall. I figure with three arms you could store at least 6 saws. One on each side of each arm. I'd stack the arms one over the other.
That is kind of the design that I've had rolling around in my brain. But I have not yet come up with a mechanic is that will actually fit in the space I have and work with the constraints of a video shop.
@@WoodByWright You could go about it a couple ways depending on what you have on hand. I bought a whole box of old door hinges at a yard sale once for like $2 so I'd probably use those. But there's a way you could use a piece of pipe too. The pipe could act like a hinge pin. Having slept on it I'm now thinking you could make some sliding barn door panels and increase your wall tool storage space too. I'm thinking a pair of doors would increase your storage by some 50%. Movable walls!
The pipe got me thinking about this storage box setup I saw once. This guy had these floor to ceiling carousels he'd made for storage boxes. They were wooden boxes with a pipe in the middle and you could turn the whole thing around. He had storage boxes on his but you could put tools on yours instead. Basically a tool lazy susan.
Put another shelf like the one in the back on the joists.
I've thought about doing something like that but there isn't a lot of space in between my choice as mine are 12 in on center
For the panel saws maybe a set of hinged hangers would work?
That is some thing I have been trying to figure out. But have not come up with a functional design yet.
BaDumTsh! I've always liked the majority of your wall setup. Just a bit jealous my collection would make a similarly designed wall look naked. I hate to organize a tool wall, because I never know what's going to be added next and how and where it will fit.
so true! there is never enough space!
I have a tool wall with planes and chisels and bits and pieces but am looking at building a much larger wall... want it to include collectables as well as all my usable tools, any thoughts on where to find ideas on how to display?
Like your tool wall and the jokes. How’s the floor where the epoxy leaked out.?
Suggestion on the chisel storage. I have a lot of experience on this and agree that it is a superior method... but a problem with untreated wood in the slots can allow moisture absorption / capture by the wood fibers resulting in rust on tool... If you apply a shellac or or epoxy inside the slot it would help. Also, Having an adequate amount of slop in the fitment is better to allow air to circulate freer.
rue. I oil mine to keep the moisture down.
I prefer my tools in a cabinet. But my shop, though small, contains multiple areas. Leather working, wood carving, blacksmithing, welding, etc. With the cabinetry, I can open them up to fill accessibility, or close them up to keep things neat and clean if I am working in another area. For a dedicated, one purpose, private shop, I would probably prefer open access like yours.
Right on. If my shop wasn't devoted to making videos about hand tools I would probably do things similar.
The world needs more dad jokes! 😄
I could not agree more!
@@WoodByWright UNFORTUNATELY he puts the dad joke book where he can find it again HA HA PS a dad joke - How do you know when you're getting old ? You look both ways before crossing a room...
Mom jokes, too! Cannot leave out our mothers!
Me want the garden gnome.
Lol every shop needs one. This ones. Name is tycus!
If you weren't film videos would you have the tool wall in front of you rather than behind you? I like that we get to see it in the videos.
Why the blue paint one some of the planes? Reminds me of Ford blue engine paint, which is one of my favorite colors.
thanks. on I do not like having a bench on the wall it is nice to be able to hang boards over the other side so I would still have all the tools behind me. if I do a full strip down and restoration I paint it my shop blue. I like the way it looks!
Think about the floor joist above the bench some of your tools.
I was thinking like a L bracket for your big saws, easy to reach and out of the way.
if it were a normal shop I would, but this is a studio and they look good int eh background. also on the ceiling they would get in the way of the lights and video equipment. LOL the fun of video.
Kudos for having all your tools out where you can get them, but shelves work better than racks for virtually every type of tool. The worst type of rack has a hole you have to thread the tool into when putting it away.
How about a short show about the whole basement.
I am not a fan of shop tours. But a lot of people like them. Maybe.
Who is talking about a shop tour, I was interested in a short show in your basement.
Hey, James! Which plane is that on the right of the top shelf with a string hanging from it? Also, what is that switch box between the planes and the files? Keep up, and I'm waiting for a nice bookshelf video.
That is a file holder. It turns a file into a plane. The switch is a control pickel from my past. My masters was in theater automation. I keep it for the memories!
Oh By the way, I'm really interested in knowing why you don't use under-bench storage. The first thing I did after building my bench was to build a carcass and drawers for under it.
It is a personal choose. I do not like drawers. and the things I do store under there would not fit in there. also with hold fasts the drawers would only be able to be on the bottom half where I already store large big tools. then I need tools on the wall as a back drop for videos! but a lot of people out there love drawers or cabinets under the bench.
How much room do you have just under the workbench's top? Could you put in a few supports for the frame saws? They are really flat. They would just slide in. Out of the way. That would free up that wall space for something else? Under my table surface, I put a 2" drop down shelf. It was unusable space anyway. I know you have dog holes in you bench top. That may prevent it from working. My wall space is completely taken up so I know how you feel.
Unfortunantly there is not enough space between the legs for it to fit there. Plus I like it in the videos makes a good backdrop. Videographer pelroblems. Lol
@@WoodByWright In my tiny little workspace, I am always trying to find a better way to store tools. I was even considering hanging stuff from my ceiling.
Do you wish you'd done a french cleat wall so you can move things around more easily?
I'm going to make a tool wall soon and am wondering if the french cleat system is worth the extra effort.
This is a food plate wall. All of these racks can move around. However I've never had a desire to move them.
How would you build a cabinet that helps with keeping air/moisture out? Reason I ask is I live in Florida and moisture control is a huge problem for me and even using anti rust lubricants I still have to sand rust off my tools monthly, gets old real fast. I like the carvings on you chisle rack, couple really old symbols, curious though why a protective symbol?
I think from my limited experience, just having a closed cabinet prevents condensation settling on the cold metal of tools and so stops much of the rust. Different climate here - it's cold and humid in the UK
Just having closed air slows temp changes and condonation. But some people put drying bars in the cases too. Shannon has a few videos on that.
Thank both of you, had an old cabinet that feel apart, like literally tools everything feel out everywhere; so they have been sitting out on a makeshift bookshelf looking thing. And Robert I actually prefer wet cold to hot, muggy, just outright nasty humid heat, feel like I loose twenty pounds mowing my lawn and I have a big zero turn, makes me miss Winters in Indiana and Michigan
You ask for ideas of what to demonstrate on your channel, where can they be submitted?
JIM
You did not cover the one thing that has always puzzled me about your tool wall. What is that gray switch box that is hanging down in front of it? It has to be important being in such a prominent place.
Yep. That is one of the few things on the wall that are an owed to my past. My masters was in theater automation and that is an old control pickle that came from work I did years ago.
@@WoodByWright so what does it control?
@@1pcfred Nothing! it si just my twisted form od decoration LOL
Great video.. Quick question.. I don't know how much room you have on the joists above where you have your clamps, but could you incorporate some cleats to hang your frame saws flush with the bottom of your joists? You mentioned your head room is about 7', this would make them still accessible while freeing up quite a bit of your wall space. Just an idea... Great channel and video!
If it was a normal shop I would do that. But as a video studio. They would get in the shot too easily and get in the way of the lights. Plus I like the look on the backdrop. Lol videographer problems.
@@WoodByWright I got ya. I have what I call a medium size shop 16'x20'. There is never enough space. I love your wall though and it inspires me to start my hand tool wall. Thanks for sharing!!
With all your tools exposed you must have very good dust collection or everything would get covered with dust. At least that's what would happen in my shop.
No dust collection. That's one of the benefits of having an all hand tools wood shop. Hand tools don't create dust they create shavings, curls, and chips. if I had a power tool shop then I would probably make a cabinet to enclose them all.
@@WoodByWright Does that include saws and hand sanding? They may not throw as much dust but there is still quite a bit.
Have you ever considered building a chest of drawers for fitting beneath your bench? You could house many of your miscellaneous items there. Perhaps even a shallow, full width drawer for your Roubo frame saw.
I was wondering if they could go flat on the ceiling with a slot and toggle system similar to the planes?
At one time I was going to do that. But with hold fasts there is not much space for it. And I already store a lot of items on the shelf down there that fill the space nicely.
Starting on my own tool wall. Quick question: how deep is your top shelf? I want one for my handfull of wooden planes and specialty planes.
mine is 10" most wooden planes are between 9.5" and 10.5"
@@WoodByWright Thank you
Wohoo took wall!! #BuildTheWall
Nice man! you got first!
One question. Why so many hand planes?
I teach so I need to be able to diminstrate them. But that being said most professional handtools woodworkers end up useing a lot more then this.
Makes sense... just curious is all.
Great video, lots of love. Only thing I could focus on though was your beard. Brother, it needs some help! Two simple things will fix it all. 1) LET IT GROW! God gave MAN the ability to grow a beard. Not women or children. So LET IT GROW! 2) Work a shaved head, stop the "sideburn" at the TOP of the ear (where the ear connects to the head), that way when you put on glasses/sunglasses you don't have this odd gap.
Thanks man. But you got to talk to my wife. She is the one that choses what my hair does. Lol
Off topic...
Have you ever, or have any interest in working with bamboo?
I have done a few projects with that stuff. It is a pain. Much like Palm!
Love the tool wall, not just for the tools haha but great layout. Wonder how you managed to store the wooden plane you made?? I’m currently looking at storage solutions for my wooden planes 👍
Needs more tools. 😂
Always.
Put most of the stuff in drawers. If the drawers are well organized, it takes two seconds to open the right drawer and get the tool you need.
Adam Savage has an great theory about drawers.
For video production, clean up ur tool wall. It's annoyingly disorganized to the eye .... just saying.
Lol thanks I prefer to show reality then perfection. but that being said most of the comments on here has been saying that the tool wall is too organized lol