garnacho had an easy overlap which he ignored, ran straight into the man lost the ball then didn't track back leaving the entire left flank 2v1 for cas to deal with alone... that why he went nuts
he is terrible. he's just playing because Antony fcked himself up at Utd. it would've been Rashford and Antony on the wing. if Utd get a new winger this guy needs to go on loan
Mark's ratings: Casemiro - 5 Rashford - 6 Garnacho - 5 Delulu of the highest degree! This is headless chicken FC. Casemiro was way better than Rashy and Garnacho today!
@@davidchadwick6816 I always thought Dalot was much better on the right with Amad in front of him than on the left with Rashford in front. Rashford never tracks back and since Dalot plays inverted he's usually supporting the midfield and this leaves too much space on the left.
All our wingers can’t or won’t pass. Garnacho and Rashford are always looking to score. Amad does look up to pass but Garnacho, Rashford and Antony just look to score. Our strikers haven’t been given chances for years. It’s sickening.
@@MostUnbiasedFan how is he going to adapt when nothing gets supplies to him the only thing he will have to adapt and settle to is running around in circles unlike the previous club he's played for
@@Gjunya he's going to adapt by playing and getting match sharp. He's not the type of striker that needs chances created for him. He is the creator. A peak zirkzee will make garnacho and rashford much better because they can focus on what they do good. Constantly shooting and being selfish. Ideally we have kane and obi martin right now instead of hojlund and zirkzee. But we all know the club can't plan anything at all.
So Mark thinks a draw against an in form Chelsea is unacceptable and he won't let the level drop but drawing to Fenerbace in the europa league is worth celebrating
We played far better against most of the teams we lost to under Ten Hag than we did against Chelsea today (barring Liverpool and Tottenham). As a matter of fact we played worse agai st Leicester than we did against most teams we have lost to under Ten Hag. Think about that. The players are crap.
Mark has lost it. Just because the manager is gone it doesn’t mean the players will start playing good. Ten Hags been gone for 3 days or so. Ruud picks the same team as Ten Hag would have done. Ofc they are going to play the same way. Mark says that the players is not good enough. Everyone else says Ten Hag is not good enough. Here is the truth, both statements are right. Rashford, Martinez, Dalot, Ugarte, Zirkzee, Hojlund, Garnacho, Bruno is not good enough to start, nor play for United based on their current/last year forms. As for the attacking players having no chemistry who’s fault is that? They’ve played together a long time and there is zero coordination, no one thinks the same thing. That’s on Ten Hag. And it is not irrelevant to mention Ten Hag today. His players, his style and his team was on the pitch. He has built these performances for 2,5 years. Ofc they won’t be gone in 3 days.
Actually, this team played worse today and worse on Wednesday against Leicester than they have in most games this season. They played far better against West Ham and in a couple of their other losses this season than this week.
The main problem with Mark is he gave 6 rating to Rasford and 5 to Casemiro. I don't get it. How can Rasford be better than Casemiro in this game ? Are we even watching the same match...
Mark is delusional, cause ETH is gone...doesnt mean the team will magically start flying...also Ruud said he didnt want to introduce too many changes and Chelsea is a much better team at this point in time and even then we created more chances than them.
Couldnt afford to lose this one. We played poorly and got a good point .... on track for an unbeaten Rud interim tenure... how he thinks a still poor united holding current chelsea to a draw isnt a sort of progress... you think Ten Hag wouldn't have lost today... cmon
Funny Mark now has standards. Ruud did a good job setting the team up but the attacking players just can't score. It's unbelievable some of these misses.
The team played worse today and against Leicester than they have in most of the other games this season. There have only been a few performances this season under ETH that were worse than today and last Wednesday.
Was like he was expecting United to steamroll Chelsea who are currently 4th in the table. As you say Rudd had United well set up defensively defenders and midfielders tracking back all played their part in how they nullified the Chelsea attacking threat. Chances wasted again nothing new with United this season in the Premier league with wasteful players
Should be Garnacho left, Amad right, sub in Rashford left when Garnacho is having a bad game or is tired, and both wingers need to service the striker constantly and work back and forth like a freaking yoyo!
Mark gave Rashford a 6 n said he had an average game, he was awful. So when Rasford has a real average game, will Mark give him an 8 or 9? Marks the one who said we can't overhype the players just because they had an average game. On a positive, Mazraoui was really good.
I think he's saying that based on the last year or so, this was average for him. I can count on my right hand, his 'good performances', since last season.
@@Mothers_milk I agree with you there. But he can't give Rashy a 6 n others 5. Rashy wasn't better than anyone out there. Marks doing what he says he hates the manager doing, which is favouritism.
We played far better against West Ham and in most of our other losses under Ten Hag than we did today against Chelsea or Wednesday against Leicester. If Amorim can't win the Europa league and finish top 8 with this team, then he is no better than TenHag. I am hoping we can elevate the level of these middling players.
Rashford....? "OOOH he did a cross".... "Wow... he sprinted back.... once"... ( Did everybody notice that?)... cos if you were surprised like I was, it says it all. Watch Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford etc... and see every player sprint back!!!! Your defence of Rashford is wearing thin.
@@dennisbergkamp640 Mate i've defended Rashford for years but if you can't see how bad hes been then idk what u smoking, he can't pass, he can't dribble, doesn't track back, can't finish... Then he makes one good run and fans and live commentary forget about everything its insanity
A 300k per week player praised for a cross, and for running. And people talk about standards when ManU try to finish for a European spot instead of top 4. Manager Players Fans all are shite
My biggest worry for Amorim is implementing his playing style. There's a player's culture at that club that has caused the last couple managers to fail at this. Fixing this problem is key
The amount mark protects trashford is so hypocritical. Clearly been scared off by trashfords PR team. Why are you judging his performances off different metrics. By your logic let's compare casemiro from the end of last season and start of this season to post ten haag he would be a 9 you prat. Talk about protecting the English passport
Yes, Ive been thinking this for awhile. Mark being afraid to call a spade a spade and how much he defends rashford shows his pr team has their hand on his jewels.
The guy is talking as if the players are the same players who sacked mourinho, ole, only rashford and bruno played under ole the rest is ten hag's team. And is here expecting ten hag's own players who he spent over 600 million on to unlearn all the bad coaching and bad habis they picked up under his tenure inside 2 games.
@@sqae8398 Lindelof hasn't even started this season and yes he did spend 600 million, I know you are going to use the excuse that the board sanctioned the transfers but he chose most of the targets and had final veto. He hunted down antony and accepted going forward with the club paying 60 million for him
You're a boss mark but you saying "were Manchester United" is like the rich kid saying "My dads a doctor". That mindset is why we keep going in circles every couple years. We had 20+ years of domination time to take our knock on the chin, admit we've lost it and stay patient and humble and we will get back where we need to be.
Exactly, every big team has its time in the sun ☀️ These current years aren’t the ones for United but it will happen again; probably within the next 5-10 years
I don't know how old you are mate... But I and many other fans haven't seen United winning a major trophy yet. Nobody knows how much time we have left with. You can't blame our Impatience...
@@LukeMC82 it's either Rashy or Garna starting on the left, can't start both. Amad and Rashy should be starting until we get another LW, and Garna off the bench
@@LukeMC82Why bring up Rashford? He is not mentioned anywhere here and you can barely spell his name if you take every letter OP used here. But to answer your question, no he shouldn’t. Absolutely not.
I don't know why Mark is talking like ETH cannot be blamed for anything about how the players are currently playing. They have been playing without him for zero time and there will need to be a transition.
Who had ever thought we were winning or even drawing this game with Ten Hag? The reason we are all disappointed it's because we look like we could have won that game! We didn't because of certain individuals that now we realize are not good enough for this level. But as a team, and especially the defense, we did a miracle we didn't get more than 3 goals like we had against Liverpool and against Totteham.
We are disappointed because we played worse today than we did in the majority of games under Ten Hag. It is quite likely that if Ten Hag had been coaching today we would have won. We were far better against West Ham and in a couple of our other losses than we were against Leicester last Wednesday. Think about that.
@sqae8398 Were we better against West Ham? Of course we were, they're currently a half bottom team! Why don't you judge Ten Hag's performance by comparing this game, which was against someone from the top 5, with those against other top teams like Liverpool or Totteham?
As a Liverpool fan, I just hope Ineos and the Glazers will give Amorim the freedom to get rid of the Rats in the Team and bring ManU closer to how it was once. We miss the amazing challenges we had with the old ManU. Lets hope for a new, amazing future for ManU.
@@k4m478 This got me thinking. Was there ever a time both teams were at the top of their game simultaneously? It's either we are thriving and Liverpool are struggling or vice versa.
Yes, despite the intense rivalry, I always looked forward to encounters with Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea , some great matches regardless of results 👍
@@pshort1848 he is getting paid more than salah, putting in Jadon sancho performances every week, there is the issue. The top earners at the this club are on wages they wouldn’t get elsewhere. Therefore their ego has been inflated and they think they are better than they actually are.
Only 2 players deserve anything over a 5 today. Mazarouri and Delitght. Everyone else shouldn't be above a 3...rashford 6 garnacho 5, wtf. If our players played like that under saf...they would never see the OT pitch again. This clubs standards have dropped so low, were giving a 6 to rashford for that performance. This club is truly done. No manager can save us
yeah the players are crap but using that as an excuse to defend ten hag who was also crap is a dumb argument. Literally nobody thinks these players are secretly amazing just being held back by a manager. People like mark are arguing with themselves for no reason.
Everyone saying garnacho needs to learn to pass but its also his shooting too he is quite wasteful he has alot of g/a so far but leaved so much to be desired
Mark, in a way I’m Ok with that performance. Because, I’m sure Amorim watched the match live and I’m happy he understood the standards of players he’s about to take over.
Amorim is walking into "mission impossible" with these players! If Amorim make these team pass the ball to their teammates, then he deserves a statue in front of old Trafford.
Giving Casmeiro and Garnacho the same rating is mental, wether Garnacho is young or not he was absolutely awful! Cost us multiple attacks and finishing. Casmeiro played really well and carried the awful Urgarte.
Saying Rashford average is bad so he's a six - what kind of bullshit is that. The standard is the standard and if you're a 4 constantly you're still a 4 if that's your level. 😂
Martinez slipped? Are you moving mad? He did slip because he was trying to take out the man after being embarrassed, and he failed to take him out by grabbing so raised his foot high. Mark that is a joke, can’t compare this one to Bruno red card.
Why all the negativity, Urgate has instantly improved the midfield, Mazraoui looks the part and Garnacho didn’t have his best game but was the only live wire in attack. It’s the 1st prem game since ETH and the toxicity is beyond belief.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the comments section that are able to see right through Mark's Casemiro hate agenda, whilst still attempting to do PR for ETH. Completely overreacting to the game, when we looked the best we have all season and earned a genuine draw and could've won. Under ETH we would've got ran over by Chelsea
When captain Bruno is showing no football intellect or composure and sending footballs into orbit for fun, it’s no wonder our end product is non-existent. Garnacho needs guidance from a real creative player or he will quickly go from the next Ronaldo to the next Dan James.
I’m genuinely getting real tired of listening to Neville’s commentary of our games. I’ve been saying it for at least the last 4 years. All he does is suck off the opposition or the ref.😂
Mark isn't even commenting that most of these players are Ten hag signing and to be honest Garnacho showed he doesn't deserve to be in starter in the team as well as Hollund is poor he needs to be loaned to a different club
Højlund was good. Look at what he was fighting against? Colwill hit him more times than one. Fofana almost tore his shirt off more than once. And he got the penalty. How many chances where created for him?
Marking players based on their own portfolio of performances is ridiculous. Rashford was a 4.5 at best today, and that's based on his performance in the game, not his abilities.
Lets call a spade a spade. Zirkzee is horrible and too slow for Premier League and like it is always repeated here hoping to do the same thing again and again with different result is stupid.
Amorim not gonna change anything btw there’s no team there to manage, bunch of average players who think they’re better than they truly are. Also he wants to play 3-4-3, good luck playing 3 at the back😂
If we (you) are giving Rashford a 6 because thats how he usually performs, then over the years McTominay should always have gotten a 6. Similarly the whole team should get a 6, as they all have been shit for so long. Anyway, this isnt important as the Amorim era is about to start...
It's pointless criticising the team when there's no manager in charge. No joke, we've been shit since alex ferguson retired. We are now just an average team, that's the reality. I wish Ruben all the luck in the world, because he's gonna need it. Because if he doesn't get results, he'll be like the previous managers
How’s Amorim gonna get a tune out of some of these players, because he can’t be the one who passes/shoots and makes decisions in the moment out there and we have a shitload of players who struggle with the very basics of football.
Ruud is the interim head coach, it's not his responsibility to put many fancy things into the team in such a short period but to maintain the team move on smoothly.
I don’t think there’s any danger of manager bounce with this set of players. Watched Bruno whole 90 he’s selfish towards the striker no link up at all. Using the same players every game is draining as you know they can’t produce more than 1 performance
Weirdly I actually saw Man U had a bit of shape about them, moved about the pitch better, some great runs not being picked out, the lack of quality players in key places is more concerning
It absolutely is Haag’s fault, player for player Man United are a terrible team. If Pep came in he couldn’t get them playing a system of play due to lack of talent, honestly Ipswich will have a few players on their team who could break into United’s first team. It’s a god awful ageing team!
So you start this video and say you didn’t see a good performance from Casemiro haha. Garnacho the player you rate is horrendous. Hojlund another player you rate is also awful. Maybe start your criticism there. Plus we are playing exactly the same tactics are ETH so obviously nothing has changed.
It's time Gernacho needs to be in the bench. You can imagine, Gernacho going to a Balloon d'or ceremony when we lost to west ham and I think he's the only man utd player to be there. Despite him not winning anything. Then no comes to put on this shit performance.
according to mark, garnacho, rasmus and mainoo are our future, if this is true, then we should forget about ever competing for the premiere league title for the forseeable future
We didn't see any difference not because Ruud was a coach under Ten Hag but simply because there's no way you're implementing your ideas and Tactics in just a week Ruud played a very different football to Ten Hag at PSV people forget he was actually a Coach and did pretty well in Holland. Some of us who actually watch football and not just the Premier League know had Ruud stayed at PSV he would have probably won the Eredevise and INEOS would have been looking at him cause that's what Clubs do nowadays, they look for prodigies not proven experienced winners. But he did make mistakes today like Garnacho is starting to behave like Rashford this people who have been overating and over hyping him seem to have encouraged some unwanted behaviors.
Casemiero went mental at Garnacho for not tracking back - there are obviously just lazy bastards throughout this squad
Also not passing
garnacho had an easy overlap which he ignored, ran straight into the man lost the ball then didn't track back leaving the entire left flank 2v1 for cas to deal with alone... that why he went nuts
Yeah Garnacho needed an earful and strips tearing off him for that. It summed up his performance though, piss poor wing performance.
Casemiro is a fckin muppet. Senior players are an embarrassment.
he is terrible. he's just playing because Antony fcked himself up at Utd. it would've been Rashford and Antony on the wing. if Utd get a new winger this guy needs to go on loan
Mark's ratings:
Casemiro - 5
Rashford - 6
Garnacho - 5
Delulu of the highest degree! This is headless chicken FC. Casemiro was way better than Rashy and Garnacho today!
Yeah Mazroui and Casemeiro were the best players today.
And yet u gave casemiro a 5 really.. smh
One of better games casemiro played...definitely better than both.
Man gave Casemiro 5.5 but garnacho 5 make it make sense
Wether mark admits it or not he has slight bias` towards player although to be fair to him he does try to be somewhat fair to a degree
This fanbase celebrates goals over performances and that’s why Garnacho gets away with it and Diallo rots on the bench.
Well said mate
If Amad was more clinical and scoring more than Garnacho he would be playing ahead of him.
@ Are you suggesting a player that shoots 20x more than Amad does is more clinical? Do you know what it means to be clinical.
Same as last season when fans worships TH after winning fa cup despite 8th in league and broke numerous worst records 😂
I agree with your general sentiment… but goals do win games not performances.
The highlight for that match was Casemiro scolding at Garnacho to pull up his socks
Should be saying it to rashford for passing to garna when he was too far ahead instead of taking the keeper on himself
Garnacho actually thinks he's good. Getting angry at other players 😂. Celebrates like he's already completed football. Needs dropping ASAP.
Garnacho is superstar
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Garnacho was trash ass he needs to learn how to pass
Better than Rashford
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If Garnacho learns how to cross with his left, he will be elite or cross in general or short passes
This time his the one who was supposed to leave the pitch for rashford to play on the left and Amad right
Mazroui best signing of the summer
For united only. And it’s a very low bar
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@@davidchadwick6816 I always thought Dalot was much better on the right with Amad in front of him than on the left with Rashford in front. Rashford never tracks back and since Dalot plays inverted he's usually supporting the midfield and this leaves too much space on the left.
Bruno plays every minute like it's the 89th min
isnt that a good thing
I think thats both good and bad
That's Bruno style of play. He always wants to risk the pass b4 playing it safe
Been like from day one mate
He had a better team around him back then
What does that even mean? High intensity or low? 🤔 🤷🏻♂️
All our wingers can’t or won’t pass. Garnacho and Rashford are always looking to score. Amad does look up to pass but Garnacho, Rashford and Antony just look to score. Our strikers haven’t been given chances for years. It’s sickening.
We need proper wingers
Or rather than spend another 300m on wingers, we could just let zirkzee adapt and settle.
@@MostUnbiasedFan how is he going to adapt when nothing gets supplies to him the only thing he will have to adapt and settle to is running around in circles unlike the previous club he's played for
@@Gjunya he's going to adapt by playing and getting match sharp. He's not the type of striker that needs chances created for him. He is the creator. A peak zirkzee will make garnacho and rashford much better because they can focus on what they do good. Constantly shooting and being selfish. Ideally we have kane and obi martin right now instead of hojlund and zirkzee. But we all know the club can't plan anything at all.
@@gwledosman9744we are stuck with Rashford. Garnacho for the long run they ain't going nowhere
So Mark thinks a draw against an in form Chelsea is unacceptable and he won't let the level drop but drawing to Fenerbace in the europa league is worth celebrating
We played far better against most of the teams we lost to under Ten Hag than we did against Chelsea today (barring Liverpool and Tottenham). As a matter of fact we played worse agai st Leicester than we did against most teams we have lost to under Ten Hag. Think about that. The players are crap.
@@sqae8398 played far better? okay you should think about what you just uttered then
Spot on mate. I think it's high time Ten Hag goes.
Chelsea were crap today. United were just as bad.
@LeTuanHai-q5u Think hard , learn football and what I meant will become clear to you.
Mark has lost it. Just because the manager is gone it doesn’t mean the players will start playing good. Ten Hags been gone for 3 days or so. Ruud picks the same team as Ten Hag would have done. Ofc they are going to play the same way. Mark says that the players is not good enough. Everyone else says Ten Hag is not good enough. Here is the truth, both statements are right. Rashford, Martinez, Dalot, Ugarte, Zirkzee, Hojlund, Garnacho, Bruno is not good enough to start, nor play for United based on their current/last year forms.
As for the attacking players having no chemistry who’s fault is that? They’ve played together a long time and there is zero coordination, no one thinks the same thing. That’s on Ten Hag.
And it is not irrelevant to mention Ten Hag today. His players, his style and his team was on the pitch. He has built these performances for 2,5 years. Ofc they won’t be gone in 3 days.
Actually, this team played worse today and worse on Wednesday against Leicester than they have in most games this season. They played far better against West Ham and in a couple of their other losses this season than this week.
That's his point! Managers are notbth issue at United it's wrong players
The main problem with Mark is he gave 6 rating to Rasford and 5 to Casemiro. I don't get it. How can Rasford be better than Casemiro in this game ? Are we even watching the same match...
He needs to get over the sacking
So how would you line up taking all those players out the team?
Garnacho thinks he is Ronaldo when in reality he at times plays like Bebe 😡😡
Mark is delusional, cause ETH is gone...doesnt mean the team will magically start flying...also Ruud said he didnt want to introduce too many changes and Chelsea is a much better team at this point in time and even then we created more chances than them.
Agreed
Couldnt afford to lose this one. We played poorly and got a good point .... on track for an unbeaten Rud interim tenure... how he thinks a still poor united holding current chelsea to a draw isnt a sort of progress... you think Ten Hag wouldn't have lost today... cmon
I don't agree mate, this players choose to do what they want and they don't follow football rules, they pick and choose when to play
Great result for us
The point is that we did not play any better today or against Leicester than we have in the majority of games under Ten Hag. No bounce at all.
Funny Mark now has standards. Ruud did a good job setting the team up but the attacking players just can't score. It's unbelievable some of these misses.
Wasn't that the same issue when Ten Hag was there this season?
And the attacking players could score under ten hag?
The team played worse today and against Leicester than they have in most of the other games this season. There have only been a few performances this season under ETH that were worse than today and last Wednesday.
Was like he was expecting United to steamroll Chelsea who are currently 4th in the table. As you say Rudd had United well set up defensively defenders and midfielders tracking back all played their part in how they nullified the Chelsea attacking threat. Chances wasted again nothing new with United this season in the Premier league with wasteful players
@@f.jansen5198 No.. ten haag couldn't set them up right, plus he wasn't even playing ugarte
Why does Bruno take free kicks?! He never hit the target
@@christianguerrero2539 none of them are
Didn’t he just against Leicester
Wasnt that a deflection of the wall tho??? @sukatz
Amad should always start ahead of Garnacho he's awful when he starts on right wing
So is rashford, he went invisible on the right
Agree amad should always start on the right. Garnacho miles away
Managers don't get it, we get it, but they must be stupid, Garnacho is horrible on the right wing
Should be Garnacho left, Amad right, sub in Rashford left when Garnacho is having a bad game or is tired, and both wingers need to service the striker constantly and work back and forth like a freaking yoyo!
Mark gave Rashford a 6 n said he had an average game, he was awful.
So when Rasford has a real average game, will Mark give him an 8 or 9?
Marks the one who said we can't overhype the players just because they had an average game.
On a positive, Mazraoui was really good.
I think he's saying that based on the last year or so, this was average for him. I can count on my right hand, his 'good performances', since last season.
That's what I'm talking about mate, we shouldn't be rating him or anyone on "average for him".
They're either good, average or bad. Rashford was bad.
Mark can’t win when it comes to rashford,when he criticises him he has an agenda and when he doesn’t then he has favouritism for him
@@Mothers_milk I agree with you there. But he can't give Rashy a 6 n others 5. Rashy wasn't better than anyone out there. Marks doing what he says he hates the manager doing, which is favouritism.
@@LukeMC82garnacho is not any better mate
Eth has a draw against villa, he needs time. Eth gets sacked, a draw against Chelsea bounce where's the bounce. Mate have a drink and chill!!
We played far better against West Ham and in most of our other losses under Ten Hag than we did today against Chelsea or Wednesday against Leicester. If Amorim can't win the Europa league and finish top 8 with this team, then he is no better than TenHag. I am hoping we can elevate the level of these middling players.
Was the bounce ten hag sacked same old nonsense
@@sqae8398remind me when ten hag won the Europa, you were NEVER going to win Europa under ten hag or finish top 8 in Europa with ten hag
@adeo767 Yes, as bad as Ten Hag was, he would have. He probably would have won the Carabao as well. I hope Amorim can live up to that.
@sqae8398 you as only as good as your players as are
So you think one week is going to remove 2 ½ yrs of bad habits? Give me a break.
There wasn't that open midfield like under ETH.
Bro I saw us getting spread like at least 5 times in the first half.
Facts..
The midfield is still empty. No united player there facing 2-3 Chelsea players
@christiankelechi135 not as open under ETH. Under ETH was just big open spaces where players just ran through.
We played worse today against Cheksea and Wednesday against Leicester than we did in the majority of games under Ten Hag. Think about that.
How can you expect this team change when y'all treat Rashford like a 20 Y/O.
Rashford....? "OOOH he did a cross".... "Wow... he sprinted back.... once"... ( Did everybody notice that?)... cos if you were surprised like I was, it says it all. Watch Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford etc... and see every player sprint back!!!! Your defence of Rashford is wearing thin.
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It’s clear you guys have an agenda against Rashford
@@dennisbergkamp640 Mate i've defended Rashford for years but if you can't see how bad hes been then idk what u smoking, he can't pass, he can't dribble, doesn't track back, can't finish... Then he makes one good run and fans and live commentary forget about everything its insanity
A 300k per week player praised for a cross, and for running. And people talk about standards when ManU try to finish for a European spot instead of top 4. Manager Players Fans all are shite
It’s weird it’s like since rashfords people had a cry about him he’s more careful about what he says
My biggest worry for Amorim is implementing his playing style. There's a player's culture at that club that has caused the last couple managers to fail at this. Fixing this problem is key
Can't see him being able to implement his system, players wouldn't know how or wouldn't have the backbone to do so
The amount mark protects trashford is so hypocritical. Clearly been scared off by trashfords PR team. Why are you judging his performances off different metrics. By your logic let's compare casemiro from the end of last season and start of this season to post ten haag he would be a 9 you prat. Talk about protecting the English passport
It’s shocking and cowardly!
Yes, Ive been thinking this for awhile. Mark being afraid to call a spade a spade and how much he defends rashford shows his pr team has their hand on his jewels.
The guy is talking as if the players are the same players who sacked mourinho, ole, only rashford and bruno played under ole the rest is ten hag's team. And is here expecting ten hag's own players who he spent over 600 million on to unlearn all the bad coaching and bad habis they picked up under his tenure inside 2 games.
Exactly
He didn't spend 600 million. You also forgot Lindelof.
@@sqae8398 Lindelof hasn't even started this season and yes he did spend 600 million, I know you are going to use the excuse that the board sanctioned the transfers but he chose most of the targets and had final veto. He hunted down antony and accepted going forward with the club paying 60 million for him
Not defending Mark but, Maguire,Shaw,Lindelof
Rashford, Maguire, luke shaw, Bruno, lindelof, dalot, Erickson, all were there under Ole
You're a boss mark but you saying "were Manchester United" is like the rich kid saying "My dads a doctor". That mindset is why we keep going in circles every couple years. We had 20+ years of domination time to take our knock on the chin, admit we've lost it and stay patient and humble and we will get back where we need to be.
This is it mate
Exactly, every big team has its time in the sun ☀️ These current years aren’t the ones for United but it will happen again; probably within the next 5-10 years
I don't know how old you are mate...
But I and many other fans haven't seen United winning a major trophy yet. Nobody knows how much time we have left with. You can't blame our Impatience...
Garnacho should not be starting for Manchester United
Been saying this for ages he should be a super sub.
And Rashford should?
@@LukeMC82 it's either Rashy or Garna starting on the left, can't start both. Amad and Rashy should be starting until we get another LW, and Garna off the bench
@@LukeMC82Why bring up Rashford? He is not mentioned anywhere here and you can barely spell his name if you take every letter OP used here. But to answer your question, no he shouldn’t. Absolutely not.
@@LukeMC82if your only options are garna and rashford then yes rashford over garna easy
Does Goldbridge think van Nistlerooy has a magic wand?
He's just here to justify ten hag and ultimately say that it wasn't ten hags fault at all if and when amorim fails
Mark: We shouldn't fire Ten Hag. Also Mark: We shouldn't keep ruud because he is just antoher Ten hag.
To be fair, not firing ten Hag is not the same as not hiring a second ten Hag after firing one
I don't know why Mark is talking like ETH cannot be blamed for anything about how the players are currently playing. They have been playing without him for zero time and there will need to be a transition.
Mark... This IS the "glow-up"... If Ten Hag was still in... you'd have lost 5-0 today again. These are Ten Hag players. Ofcourse they're crap.
Bro you are lying, we have only lost with 4-0 once in the last 18 months. So this is exaggerated
Yeah bro..... United almost won the match against this Chelsea otherwise the result would have been 5-0 seriously...
Uhm. how many of these were ten Hag players? You do know we have a consortium or board who bought these players right?
Yeah, this was an improvement compared to a week ago at least in my opinion.
This is true tbf
Mazraoui played like one of Utd's top left back like Evra and Shaw. Keep it up!!!
Who had ever thought we were winning or even drawing this game with Ten Hag? The reason we are all disappointed it's because we look like we could have won that game! We didn't because of certain individuals that now we realize are not good enough for this level. But as a team, and especially the defense, we did a miracle we didn't get more than 3 goals like we had against Liverpool and against Totteham.
We are disappointed because we played worse today than we did in the majority of games under Ten Hag. It is quite likely that if Ten Hag had been coaching today we would have won. We were far better against West Ham and in a couple of our other losses than we were against Leicester last Wednesday. Think about that.
@sqae8398 Were we better against West Ham? Of course we were, they're currently a half bottom team! Why don't you judge Ten Hag's performance by comparing this game, which was against someone from the top 5, with those against other top teams like Liverpool or Totteham?
Any manager/ coach or player with any sense would steer clear of this broken club. Glazers out!!!
Hojlund and Zirkzee are worst strikers ive seen at the club.
Thy dnt get service
All the strikers at Man U have never shined since past Fegi
It’s Rasmus Birtles-google it!!
As a Liverpool fan, I just hope Ineos and the Glazers will give Amorim the freedom to get rid of the Rats in the Team and bring ManU closer to how it was once.
We miss the amazing challenges we had with the old ManU. Lets hope for a new, amazing future for ManU.
Im calling BS.... Liverpool never were a challenge for Man Utd in recent history!!!!
if your rival is not worthy then yiu bad and liverpool are a proper rival but the rivalry dying bruv
@@k4m478you don't have reading comprehension?
@@k4m478
This got me thinking. Was there ever a time both teams were at the top of their game simultaneously? It's either we are thriving and Liverpool are struggling or vice versa.
Yes, despite the intense rivalry, I always looked forward to encounters with Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea , some great matches regardless of results 👍
I want a Coach who can drop Bruno and Rashford. Untill then am any manager out. We are in deep TROUBLE STILL
Drop bruno & play who ?
@@alistairgrant503Drop Bruno and put in Mount or Zirkzee. They can linkup with the main striker instead of playing Hollywood passes.
We should hold Rashford to the standard that someone making £350k a week should deliver.
Exactly, he should be compared to likes of Salah
This is the real question,most our senior players are crap
@@pshort1848 he is getting paid more than salah, putting in Jadon sancho performances every week, there is the issue. The top earners at the this club are on wages they wouldn’t get elsewhere. Therefore their ego has been inflated and they think they are better than they actually are.
Only 2 players deserve anything over a 5 today. Mazarouri and Delitght. Everyone else shouldn't be above a 3...rashford 6 garnacho 5, wtf. If our players played like that under saf...they would never see the OT pitch again. This clubs standards have dropped so low, were giving a 6 to rashford for that performance. This club is truly done. No manager can save us
yeah the players are crap but using that as an excuse to defend ten hag who was also crap is a dumb argument. Literally nobody thinks these players are secretly amazing just being held back by a manager. People like mark are arguing with themselves for no reason.
I wish Amorim luck at utd, because it will be him against the opponents and the referee every time
Warra excuse for being 13th 😂😂😂
You're so cringe
Martinez escaped a clear red card, what are you talking about?
No, United are just terrible.
Cry a river !
Everyone saying garnacho needs to learn to pass but its also his shooting too he is quite wasteful he has alot of g/a so far but leaved so much to be desired
His decision making is embarrassing. it's the fans who have overhyped him, he's clearly not that good
Hes playing all the time because there is Noone else who else should play ahead of him??
Amad
@@flxxgang1- agenda mate. There is an Anti-Rashford agenda from the fans. The club also wants to boost Garnacho’s image and worth.
@@landothomas1118 if that's the case then we are in trouble
Mark, in a way I’m Ok with that performance. Because, I’m sure Amorim watched the match live and I’m happy he understood the standards of players he’s about to take over.
That’s right 👍
I put in a superchat Friday night saying Bruno will be a problem to drop because he’s the captain. Maguire V2 incoming
Ah, you’ve got standards now.
Amorim is walking into "mission impossible" with these players! If Amorim make these team pass the ball to their teammates, then he deserves a statue in front of old Trafford.
Mazraoui is the barging of the summer .
So it’s supposed to change instantly? No.
No chance. Amorims got a mountain to climb.
What has mark got against Ruud this was the person who thought Ten Haag and Anthony were the new messiahs
Giving Casmeiro and Garnacho the same rating is mental, wether Garnacho is young or not he was absolutely awful! Cost us multiple attacks and finishing.
Casmeiro played really well and carried the awful Urgarte.
Saying Rashford average is bad so he's a six - what kind of bullshit is that. The standard is the standard and if you're a 4 constantly you're still a 4 if that's your level. 😂
Martinez slipped? Are you moving mad? He did slip because he was trying to take out the man after being embarrassed, and he failed to take him out by grabbing so raised his foot high. Mark that is a joke, can’t compare this one to Bruno red card.
Why Ruud didnt start Amad, so strange
Why all the negativity, Urgate has instantly improved the midfield, Mazraoui looks the part and Garnacho didn’t have his best game but was the only live wire in attack. It’s the 1st prem game since ETH and the toxicity is beyond belief.
You’re giving Rashford 6 and Ugarte Casemiro less what you smoking Mark
Garnacho was terrible. even Casemiro gave him the stick. he's not really somebody, he's just overhyped.
Gary saying someone should be sent off is hilarious. Does he remember the tackles he used to make 😂
I'm pleasantly surprised by the comments section that are able to see right through Mark's Casemiro hate agenda, whilst still attempting to do PR for ETH. Completely overreacting to the game, when we looked the best we have all season and earned a genuine draw and could've won. Under ETH we would've got ran over by Chelsea
When captain Bruno is showing no football intellect or composure and sending footballs into orbit for fun, it’s no wonder our end product is non-existent. Garnacho needs guidance from a real creative player or he will quickly go from the next Ronaldo to the next Dan James.
Garnacho is the next Rashford. Plays exactly like him.
@@GeeeEmmmHe really doesn't. His playstyle is quite familiar though.
The poor form was never Eriks fault. I feel the team lacks chemistry which hinders vision and intensity. Mentally they are weak
Another bizarre thing is Linderlof out lasting Ranick and Ten Hag. If there was an example of why every manager fails here
I’m genuinely getting real tired of listening to Neville’s commentary of our games. I’ve been saying it for at least the last 4 years. All he does is suck off the opposition or the ref.😂
So you were all crying about amad not starting and ruud is doing the same so what is it? The manager or the board telling the manager what to do!
Garnacho trying too hard. Too young to be carrying us. First time this season he should have came off instead of Rashford.
Yes. It shouldn't all be on his shoulders he needs help cause at times he's carried us
Mark isn't even commenting that most of these players are Ten hag signing and to be honest Garnacho showed he doesn't deserve to be in starter in the team as well as Hollund is poor he needs to be loaned to a different club
Hojlud was good just garnacho lost his chances
Højlund was good. Look at what he was fighting against? Colwill hit him more times than one. Fofana almost tore his shirt off more than once. And he got the penalty. How many chances where created for him?
Garnacho needed to be taken off he was very poor.
Said it from when I first seen him play, Ugarte is horrific in possession looks so panicked and rushed every time
Yeah. He reminds of myself for real.
giving garnacho the same score as bruno is taking the piss 🤦♂️
Marcus Rashford wins a corner... Mark - "thats a 6/10 performance"
😂😂😂
Let's appreciate the draw for now. What if it was Ten Hag?
We would still have probably drawn, we could have lost this game too. So don't be too happy with this subpar performance.
@@angelotroseboom1186 you would've been spanked by Chelsea if Hag was still in.
He’s gone, no point mentioning the name, new era now, same shite on the pitch
Marking players based on their own portfolio of performances is ridiculous. Rashford was a 4.5 at best today, and that's based on his performance in the game, not his abilities.
Lets call a spade a spade. Zirkzee is horrible and too slow for Premier League and like it is always repeated here hoping to do the same thing again and again with different result is stupid.
Zirkzee is another Wout Weghorse
I really hope the guy does well but am afraid your statement may be so true, not good enough for PL!
He’s shite and no one can change my mind.
There's the mistake Mark, you thought it was just ten hag. Was same old. What did you expect, or stunned about.
Amorim not gonna change anything btw there’s no team there to manage, bunch of average players who think they’re better than they truly are. Also he wants to play 3-4-3, good luck playing 3 at the back😂
Agree. It’s blatantly obvious.
Amad should start on the right side, Rashford and Garnacho should alternate on the left side. Maybe then they will smile and be happy?😊
Mark I don't care what we're build up on...Garnancho has been too wasteful...he needs to do better because his role is very important.
What’s his role? Savior?
You have been saying that Masraoui has been the best transfer all along. You are so right.
I don’t know what you expected. Most of them are ETH players 😂😂😂
If we (you) are giving Rashford a 6 because thats how he usually performs, then over the years McTominay should always have gotten a 6. Similarly the whole team should get a 6, as they all have been shit for so long. Anyway, this isnt important as the Amorim era is about to start...
Yeah his explanation made zero sense, it’s like saying Onana should get a 8 every game because his standard at the start was terrible
Garnacho might be young but hes had his chance...time to give Amad a run of games...Garnacho has been poor period and shouldn't be starting every game
Wr are ruining him
I'd rather start Garnacho & Amad over Rashford & Amad.
How much longer are we gonna pretend Rashford is good?
@@LukeMC82 Rashford probably finishes the chances Garnacho has been wasting
@@aduad Garnacho was very greedy n wasteful today.
@LukeMC82 hes better than garnacho.
These united fans who keep on expecting united to play chealse like they are playing a team in relegation
Garnacho seriously needs to look up and play a pass rather than always taking the shot all the time
It's pointless criticising the team when there's no manager in charge. No joke, we've been shit since alex ferguson retired. We are now just an average team, that's the reality. I wish Ruben all the luck in the world, because he's gonna need it. Because if he doesn't get results, he'll be like the previous managers
How’s Amorim gonna get a tune out of some of these players, because he can’t be the one who passes/shoots and makes decisions in the moment out there and we have a shitload of players who struggle with the very basics of football.
The maddest thing I’ve heard is that mark thinks Real Madrid are coming for garnacho in a few years 😂😂😂😂 maybe sociedad
5.5 is the average of 10! Stop saying a 6 is average!
You clearly don't follow football. 6 has been the average in football player ratings for decades
Its fifa scoring
Ruud is the interim head coach, it's not his responsibility to put many fancy things into the team in such a short period but to maintain the team move on smoothly.
ETH would’ve lost that game.
I think he would have won it...Team not managers
GARNACHO WAS SO SELFISH AND USELESS! HOW HE STAYED FOR 90 MIN? BRUNO DID NOT HELP! NO POINT SACKING THE MANAGER WHEN PLAYERS ARE THE PROBLEM!
I don’t think there’s any danger of manager bounce with this set of players. Watched Bruno whole 90 he’s selfish towards the striker no link up at all. Using the same players every game is draining as you know they can’t produce more than 1 performance
@@newhappiness4410 I watched the striker the whole 90 he wasn't worth linking up with, awful player .
@@jimwatson7238 it’s true the striker has to do more but that can also be said of the providers
Hojlund and Zirkzee are awful.
mark gives Rashford a 6 because he is English and this is why Manchester United is the way it is .
Has Zirkzee ever played football?
Dude is such a slouch it's unbearable
Weirdly I actually saw Man U had a bit of shape about them, moved about the pitch better, some great runs not being picked out, the lack of quality players in key places is more concerning
It absolutely is Haag’s fault, player for player Man United are a terrible team. If Pep came in he couldn’t get them playing a system of play due to lack of talent, honestly Ipswich will have a few players on their team who could break into United’s first team. It’s a god awful ageing team!
Ratcliffe..."im going to knock city off their perch" ffs, cant stop laughing😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ll be honest with you I don’t see how Amorim is gonna change this team
So you start this video and say you didn’t see a good performance from Casemiro haha. Garnacho the player you rate is horrendous. Hojlund another player you rate is also awful. Maybe start your criticism there. Plus we are playing exactly the same tactics are ETH so obviously nothing has changed.
It's time Gernacho needs to be in the bench. You can imagine, Gernacho going to a Balloon d'or ceremony when we lost to west ham and I think he's the only man utd player to be there. Despite him not winning anything. Then no comes to put on this shit performance.
Why wouldn't he go. He was nominated for an award
according to mark, garnacho, rasmus and mainoo are our future, if this is true, then we should forget about ever competing for the premiere league title for the forseeable future
We didn't see any difference not because Ruud was a coach under Ten Hag but simply because there's no way you're implementing your ideas and Tactics in just a week Ruud played a very different football to Ten Hag at PSV people forget he was actually a Coach and did pretty well in Holland.
Some of us who actually watch football and not just the Premier League know had Ruud stayed at PSV he would have probably won the Eredevise and INEOS would have been looking at him cause that's what Clubs do nowadays, they look for prodigies not proven experienced winners.
But he did make mistakes today like Garnacho is starting to behave like Rashford this people who have been overating and over hyping him seem to have encouraged some unwanted behaviors.
Why isn't he celebrating this draw like he did when ETH was the manager 🤔 so the standards are high for an interim?
Same issues under ETH as well. We had many chances in atleast 2-3 games, we didn't score. Our attackers are not clinical enough 😅