I played for 4 years after D2 first came out. A Martial Arts assassin with Phoenix Strike was one of my primary characters. I'm looking forward to playing it again.
I played WW barb. Would be nice if they would just make it really good. Make it good enough that it's good while leveling, very good when you're in good gear and godly in godly gear.
This is a vast improvement. Releasing all the charges (before) caused players to have to attack either twice for single element skills (when dual claw) or three times for phoenix strike (only hits once even if dual claw) to regain max charges again, now players can use the last charges every other attack round. AoE and crowd control potential is much greater now. Releasing 2 charges in one finishing move increases the single target damage on the single element skills quite a lot (one more instance of the melee damage for fire/lightning/cold and more frequent spell damage just for fire). The only skill that was not buffed was the first charge of phoenix strike, no more damage and no increased frequency of use. The only negative will be Next Hit Delay preventing damage occurring. Certain charges may not stack their spell effects together unless the NHD is removed (e.g releasing Claws of Thunder charge 2 and 3 together, and phoenix strike lightning charge). Patch 2.4 not addressing NHD at all is a pretty major negative imo.
thx MrLlamaSC for the Video and all the new stuff and how it works with the Assassin. Never played other than Traps but this build sounds really interesting to me and now ill test this after seeing how to use it, thx again :D
Thank you, Mr Llama. This was a very friendly video for totally new players but didn't say anything of importance for veterans that read the patch notes 😅 It would be nice to know details like how Phoenix works, how you can use weapons that are not claws with some MA skills, the quirks of the 3rd lightning charge, the utility of different finishers and so on... As a veteran that has not purchased D2R yet I still have so many questions...
Awesome and I will be playing a martial arts assassin, but I will say I am a bit disappointed that the ice charges (at 3) doesn’t see to actually freeze the enemies like Sorc glacial spike and amazon freezing arrow.
Hello. When llama was running Meph and Andy, inbetween games he was just clicking his mouse to select the sorceress on the right , and it instantly created the game on Hell, instead of manually selecting between Normal Nightmare Hell in the middle of the screen. Can anyone explain how does he do that? i cannot find anything in google about it
People are sleeping on tiger strike / dragon tail. You can keep using the third charge of tiger then tail over and over. Hell, tiger strike alone now is insane. You could do a 95% DS build with a non-claw and keep rotating between burning the last charge of TS with regular attacks. If you stack CB as well the regular attacks will still do chunks on bosses if they hit a CB. TS has insane single target damage and multi potential with dragon tail.
The left m.a. tree used to have different animations/attackspeeds than the ones in the middle and those changed with claw/shield or dualclaw. Is this still a thing?
Growing up I tried to do martial arts builds but always failed. I tried big two handers with tiger strike to maximize damage because I never really found a claw with high enough damage. I also never thought to combine different kinds of charges; I always used just one kind at a time. Patch 2.4 is looking to bring a lot of fun possibilities for builds.
I would really love to see tiger strike become viable in any sense, I did a lot of testing with it back in the day, the first and biggest failure point with tiger strike is that your best melee weapon a sin can equip still is a Grief, which eliminates her use of claws altogether - This is where I'd love to see some focus for the assassin going forward I would also like to see the damage charged-up on tiger strike apply to the fire damage of dragon tail to give is monster fire damage
I had a beast kicksin to do Ubers and was shocked when i tried to do normal with Martial arts. Was so weak, for real.Glad now you have something interesting to do with the charge system
My first character is actually an Martial Sin... it was really slow due to i didnt know about Attack rating and i even tried to add early points on str and dex for better damage claws and armor.. i am kinda excited to play this again properly maybe a play along with mrlllama.
The middle row (including Phoenix Strike) doesn't mention the need to use a claw. Can you use non-claw weapons to build those charges? What I am saying is, can you use Rift to build Phoenix Strike charges?
The changes vastly improve the single element builders and phoenix strike. The single target skills may well be the best bet for single target damage (rather than spamming phoenix charge 1) because every charge receives the flat weapon damage from charge 1 as well as any additional spell effect. The first charge of phoenix strike doesn't receive much change (because it was always built up from one attack round), however the second charge goes off more frequently because to rebuild it you now only need to attack once, the same for third charge but even more frequently than before the change. Big buffs and the crowd control effects of cold are enhanced due to increased frequency of use.
Interesting. So there’s actually a benefit to having multiple kicks at once with the finishing move. I’m assuming the way it worked before was that you’d do the first kick, lose all your charges, and then finish the rest of your kicks as just a normal kick each. Now if you do three kicks, I’m guessing it will use one charge for each and do the 3, then 2, then 1 effects for every charge up move you have with three charges on you. That’s a LOT more extra damage.
No finishing moves demonstration, no tips likes flying moves, no timers for invoker ball, no info about applied effects with finishing moves, no info about redundant ball stacking. Not enough for begginers, nothing more than in patch note for advanced.
Quick question mr. llama, from all these video's, all these changes, are they for resurected only? or do they apply for regular d2/lod as well? Thanks for all the great vids! keep them up!
I hate that. It really feels like extortion to me. I'm not interested in buying a game I already own for balance updates. At least with StarCraft: Remastered you could still play with with everyone without the update. You still have to download an 8 GB update you don't want.
@@KJYKJY1985 Regular LoD has much more expansive and better balanced mods like Project Diablo 2 and Path of Diablo. I'd play those over current D2R if they had the modern graphics.
I agree with both of you. Over the years I have bought the game 3 times now, first time being just a week after D2 was released. I do currently play pd2.
I played D2 since LoD released. I have played probably around 200 characters. poison-dagger necro, vulcano-druid. ranger-pala, triple-element sorc... not once have I played a kicksin. I even had a blade-fury sin with like 20 different procs, but I have in my entire D2 "career" not put a single skill point in that Martial arts tree.
You are the complete opposite to myself - I am a total D2 noob and I only play MA Sins throughout the years across various D2 vanilla and mod versions - only until to D2R that I started playing recommended builds like Javzon or Hammerdin xDD
@@phucnguyen0110 I play mostly sorcs and fun-builds. Obviously I had a hammerdin and a ww-barb and all "regular" builds, but assassins are just so much fun with traps, every time I start one I can't bring myself to play MA.
Ive only only used Dragon Talon because it's good vs some characters in pvp on a pure trapsin, mainly ele druids if you manage to kill all their pets and chase + telestomp. Better to kick and keep them locked down with kick + your traps rather than spam mindblast or fire bomb. A good ele druid could easily wsg out of mindblast. A fast kick can keep someone locked down in your traps pretty well for 2-3 seconds which is enough time to break through a druids cyclone armor and get some damage in. Trapsins have the advantage against ele druids anyways, but it's always funny to surprise them with kicking because they're expecting to wsg out of mindblast/fire bomb spam. Source: my brain and 14ish years of serious competitive fpk/4v4s and winning multiple fpk ladders or pretty consistently coming in top 5.
@@WilliamAndrews0 Takes some skills to do well with fun builds - not with me though like I said, I am a total noob so I will have difficulties even with recommended builds and budget gears.
@@phucnguyen0110 it still depends on what you wanna do. I don't use a Pala-ranger for mf-runs, and while leveling I usually go hammer and respec later. This ranger is purely to play him for 20 minutes, say "haha, that was fun" and then never play him again, except when you want to show him off. I mostly make a lot of fun-chars, but then keep playing my 1 or 2 main-chars that are more standard like blizz or orb sorc and a gold-barb or a Javazon.
No one is talking about the massive nerf to assassin being able to Uber this patch the now always hits ONLY if you have charges. So we're back to having only a smiter to run trist effectively.
@ricky canup nope ladder 3 has mosaic runeword for claw which if u duelwield 2 100% chance to not consume charges on finisher and reset charges stack time
@@TheGreektrojan The big problem in this patch, as it was 20 years ago, is that as cool as WW+Blade Shield sounds, Blade Shield shreds your weapon durability like no other- you'd only ever want to use Blade Shield with an indestructible weapon, like a Phaseblade runeword, Azurewrath, or Shadow Killer. You can put the Chaos in your offhand, but then you're stuck with Shadowkiller in you main, and lose the Chaos bonuses for most other options, like kicks or w/e, and have a low damage claw attack.
I still don't know how I'd invest the skill points in this build... because I'd love to have Tiger Strike, Dragon Claw, Fists of Fire, Claws of Thunder, Blades of Ice AND Claw Mastery all max'd (with 1 point wonders in Claw Block, Cloak of Shadows, Burst of Speed, etc)... but that would mean 120 skill points, which is impossible. Would it be worth giving up Fists of Fire, considering a lot of Hell minions are immune to fire? IMO Claw Mastery is a MUST to be max'd.
Not sure why you would max claw mastery. Critical chance and dmg doesn't scale well on that skill and bonus attack rating might not be worth it. With some +skills from gear you will be fine with just 1 point.
@@StirbMensch Only that critical strike at lvl 10 gives you 56% on Ama and 17% on Sin, and lvl 20 gives 68% on Ama and 21 on Sin, so it's not much of a comparison. Weapon mastery on Barb is closer, although it's still better in terms of damage and critical chance. And on Barb there is not much else to put points into, so you can always dump them in the mastery.
I started d2LOD with tiger strike assasin it will be great to try it again, looks fun with mix elemental dmg. But still I think will be only fun not crazy strong when you see the max DMG capacity from skill points is not so crazy and even with new style you need 12 hits to build FIRE, lightning , COLD and PHENIX Strike to do good dmg (till you do that trap sin will clean everything or any other nromal char) but still definitely fun and interesting. Maybe they can make charges last longer to be easier to store different charges and to have this sweet mix all the time. I like the fact you need to switch between different skills all the time something not most of the classes have now .. More weapons runeword need to be made for claws. This maybe fun if you can make 4+sock runewords in 2 claws and when you carry them together the runeword is active. This can give more options for claws.
@@tinfoilpapercut3547 I phrased it poorly. I meant that because it eats charges so fast, it limits the amount of orbs you can spam while you charge up and since rift does like no damage, it'll be a bit slow. Superfun if everything does proc but I still feel that stanrdard riftsin and PS assassin are better separated out still. Hope to be proven wrong.
@@jedgurner1 that's good to know because I'm kinda tired of cold sorc and hammerdin for almost 20 years straight. Was looking forward to crappy builds becoming A tier so they're worth playing
Llama didn't say that charged bolts of Fists of Thunder spawn at certain distance, and bc of that they cannot hit 1 target all at once. that makes it useless
So funny enough the old version of martial arts sins actually plays pretty well in console. Having a lot of success with it , I think with the changes it will be even better but martial arts sin is very viable when using a controller. Doesn’t feel as clunky
thats what i was thinking. never played with controller but in my head this seems op. i ordered a controller now. so hyped on the new patch. tigerstrike and dragon tail kick boom. bruce lee likes it
The fact that now finishing moves only consume one charge regardless of the amount of charges you have... is this true for the non resurrected diablo 2 lod 1.14D as well or only resurrected? Cause the fact that resurrected does not have LAN makes me not want to buy it. Kudos for the baby joining your party... "Diablo Minions grow stronger"
The funny Thing about Phoenix Strike ist, that IT can bei used with any Kind of wappon...did any one tried IT Out with a bow? XD realy funny how Buggy this is you cant build Up charches buuut you can finish with IT by using a normal bow Attack, this will consume all charges and will do.....NOTHING. Try IT Out mrlama and PLZ adrass IT XD. But IT would be sooo funny If it works with bows...hilarious bowasin
Works far better on Project Diablo 2, it automatically uses charges as you attack far more competitive than this set up would of liked to see the pd2 method implemented as it’s far superior.
There is so much stuff "going on and managing" with this build that it almost feels like *driving a "manual gear" car.* (Nah fam I'd much rather drive an *"automatic gear"* car aka other *simpler yet much more effective builds* lol)
Rip dragon talon hello Uber smiter... I don't think that they should have nerfed dragon talon the way that they did I think it was a good alternative for fast Ubers that was less safe than smiter but could take them out faster... This is like forcing me to eat vegetables by taking away all of the steak... It always hit ever since the release of resurrected I'm not sure if that was a bug introduced with this version of the game or not but I think it added a new meta for boss killing and gave appeal to the character with something unique almost like an answer to the smiter, I think if it is bad for PvP people could just consider it BM just like grief dual raven frost prayer aura etc but it's almost insulting to people's intelligence to neither acknowledge that it's a bug or act like it hasn't been never missing for months regardless of what the LCS says... In many ways the changes are a buff to other skills but it's definitely a Nerf to dragon talon...if it was an unintentional bug they could have removed it the same time they removed the stuff with the IAS frames and shape shifting
You can kick once and explode the entire screen with fire lightning and cold damage while regaining life and mana , then charge again once and explode again and yet somehow you've got a problem with fire aura burning the whole screen over the course of a few seconds? Necro summoner also doesn't really do anything, and just let's its skills kill... so don't tell me its because we should have to do stuff to kill either. You've just gotten to the point where you're not used to having anything be actually good so anything new that is good, even if it requires an unrealistic amount of runes to be good, seems OP to you.
Still way too slow compared to anything else, shouldnt be a builder spender type game. Should just be like buffs that stay up all the time so you just need to build once and then you can just use finishers only.
I'm glad that blizzard wants to fix some issues in the game...but I'm afraid that they overdo it again or just do not stop with the change.... 😞 i don't want a game where every 3 weeks something changes and your charackter becomes virtually useless because nothing stays the way it is. i didn't buy such a game. They didn't promise such a game!
Game is boring without new content. I've played 20 years on and off on multiple mods but this vanilla with nothing new and just fugly treatment for console players (me) its just useless. Either make more expansions or just let it die or let the modders mod it!
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I played for 4 years after D2 first came out. A Martial Arts assassin with Phoenix Strike was one of my primary characters. I'm looking forward to playing it again.
I played WW barb. Would be nice if they would just make it really good. Make it good enough that it's good while leveling, very good when you're in good gear and godly in godly gear.
Thanks for explaining. I also had NO idea how this set of skills worked.
This is a vast improvement. Releasing all the charges (before) caused players to have to attack either twice for single element skills (when dual claw) or three times for phoenix strike (only hits once even if dual claw) to regain max charges again, now players can use the last charges every other attack round. AoE and crowd control potential is much greater now. Releasing 2 charges in one finishing move increases the single target damage on the single element skills quite a lot (one more instance of the melee damage for fire/lightning/cold and more frequent spell damage just for fire). The only skill that was not buffed was the first charge of phoenix strike, no more damage and no increased frequency of use.
The only negative will be Next Hit Delay preventing damage occurring. Certain charges may not stack their spell effects together unless the NHD is removed (e.g releasing Claws of Thunder charge 2 and 3 together, and phoenix strike lightning charge). Patch 2.4 not addressing NHD at all is a pretty major negative imo.
thx MrLlamaSC for the Video and all the new stuff and how it works with the Assassin. Never played other than Traps but this build sounds really interesting to me and now ill test this after seeing how to use it, thx again :D
Had a phoenix strike assassin a while back before D2R's release. It was really fun. I'll be buying D2R when 2.4 is officially released.
Its going go feel so good to play with a controller.
I have so much martial arts gear to respec my trapsin with. so stoked when this oatch drops in 10 years
Yes been playing a fresh one. About to finish nightmare. So much fun. Maybe my favorite character to play.
I have never played assassin and never spent time to look at how it worked so thank you for this vid I will probably try it out in 2.4
Its so cool how they are supporting this game post launch.
Thank you, Mr Llama. This was a very friendly video for totally new players but didn't say anything of importance for veterans that read the patch notes 😅 It would be nice to know details like how Phoenix works, how you can use weapons that are not claws with some MA skills, the quirks of the 3rd lightning charge, the utility of different finishers and so on... As a veteran that has not purchased D2R yet I still have so many questions...
Awesome and I will be playing a martial arts assassin, but I will say I am a bit disappointed that the ice charges (at 3) doesn’t see to actually freeze the enemies like Sorc glacial spike and amazon freezing arrow.
Hello. When llama was running Meph and Andy, inbetween games he was just clicking his mouse to select the sorceress on the right , and it instantly created the game on Hell, instead of manually selecting between Normal Nightmare Hell in the middle of the screen. Can anyone explain how does he do that? i cannot find anything in google about it
"_Tiger Tail_" was quite fun and somewhat viable in earlier builds, looking forward to playing it with these buffs.
People are sleeping on tiger strike / dragon tail. You can keep using the third charge of tiger then tail over and over.
Hell, tiger strike alone now is insane. You could do a 95% DS build with a non-claw and keep rotating between burning the last charge of TS with regular attacks. If you stack CB as well the regular attacks will still do chunks on bosses if they hit a CB.
TS has insane single target damage and multi potential with dragon tail.
Problem is there are a ton of fire immunes in hell, so the damage becomes shitty for clearing.
@@freedomfighter8883 you can use the physical part of TS to one shot something then CE it
The left m.a. tree used to have different animations/attackspeeds than the ones in the middle and those changed with claw/shield or dualclaw. Is this still a thing?
Basically a wow rogue build up your combo points then use the finisher. The more "combo points" er I mean charges the stronger the finisher.
Growing up I tried to do martial arts builds but always failed. I tried big two handers with tiger strike to maximize damage because I never really found a claw with high enough damage. I also never thought to combine different kinds of charges; I always used just one kind at a time. Patch 2.4 is looking to bring a lot of fun possibilities for builds.
Can't wait for non kicksin MA build to finally work!
Do you think a hybrid is possible with death sentry? If I remember correctly, I had this in the old days prior to 1.10
Very interesting. Looks like I need to play around with some MA sin.
Phoenix Strike on the test server There is a bug where items that reduce enemy registers cannot be applied
I would really love to see tiger strike become viable in any sense, I did a lot of testing with it back in the day, the first and biggest failure point with tiger strike is that your best melee weapon a sin can equip still is a Grief, which eliminates her use of claws altogether - This is where I'd love to see some focus for the assassin going forward
I would also like to see the damage charged-up on tiger strike apply to the fire damage of dragon tail to give is monster fire damage
MA changes plus upping nat set boots sounds like a fun set build
Bartuc (or 2) + Treathery is already better than whole Nat set, and you still have boots and helm slots free.
What’s the tier list in top left?
Super fun play style !!
I had a beast kicksin to do Ubers and was shocked when i tried to do normal with Martial arts. Was so weak, for real.Glad now you have something interesting to do with the charge system
Wait does tiger strike add damage based on the weapon damage or the shoe?
My first character is actually an Martial Sin... it was really slow due to i didnt know about Attack rating and i even tried to add early points on str and dex for better damage claws and armor.. i am kinda excited to play this again properly maybe a play along with mrlllama.
When I wanna go for Phoenix should I go for all other charge skills and then use talon only with one skill point or what is good?
WHAT THIS IS AWESOME
I always remember playing sin as a kid but the martial arts always seemed kinda slow. What an incredible change!
The middle row (including Phoenix Strike) doesn't mention the need to use a claw. Can you use non-claw weapons to build those charges? What I am saying is, can you use Rift to build Phoenix Strike charges?
Yes I use obedience thresher through nightmare. Extra fire DMG extra enchant and crushing blow. Very nice cheap weapon.
I didn’t realize how beautiful all the colored orbs look in D2:R
Used it way back in the day. Was able to burn down bosses pretty fast just from spamming meteors. The fire would stack.
Assassin and Amazon ftw next season, along with the standard blizzard sorceress :D, gonna be a lot of fun. Building into the auradin by end of season.
What does finishers "always hitting" mean exactly? More specifically, in PVP?
Does it disregard armor, shield, dodge, etc..?
Or just ignores defense?
they ignore defence formula
Just means attack rating is not applied to increase hit chance. Like smite or charge strike
They don't miss.
Do you think Phoenix Strike is actually worth using now or is it better to stack the other elemental charges?
The changes vastly improve the single element builders and phoenix strike. The single target skills may well be the best bet for single target damage (rather than spamming phoenix charge 1) because every charge receives the flat weapon damage from charge 1 as well as any additional spell effect.
The first charge of phoenix strike doesn't receive much change (because it was always built up from one attack round), however the second charge goes off more frequently because to rebuild it you now only need to attack once, the same for third charge but even more frequently than before the change. Big buffs and the crowd control effects of cold are enhanced due to increased frequency of use.
Interesting. So there’s actually a benefit to having multiple kicks at once with the finishing move.
I’m assuming the way it worked before was that you’d do the first kick, lose all your charges, and then finish the rest of your kicks as just a normal kick each. Now if you do three kicks, I’m guessing it will use one charge for each and do the 3, then 2, then 1 effects for every charge up move you have with three charges on you.
That’s a LOT more extra damage.
Are there finishing moves that are better than others?
I never knew those girls at raves and music festivals with the spinning lights were actually assassins charging up
Phoenix strike is not great with p8 even with insane gear and an infinity Merc. Like 10-15 minute chaos clears.
When did they change it?
3:50 in morning what a perfect time :D
is the patch already live?
nice, just one thing though, you didn't talk about how dragon claw uses two charges on use instead of just one like the other finishers
Pls upload the nightmare and hell playtests of this if they exist
Thanks Dude!!
Bc I was totally Lost when it came to anything but a trapsin 😂
Wouldn't the best solution for the clunkyness be to simply NOT consume charges on finishing moves? The charges expire over time anyways.....
Wonder if it procs with WW
Granted I'm very new to D2, but I had no idea you could charge up more than one skill at a time!
No finishing moves demonstration, no tips likes flying moves, no timers for invoker ball, no info about applied effects with finishing moves, no info about redundant ball stacking. Not enough for begginers, nothing more than in patch note for advanced.
Mustachioed Llama? I've been away for a long time it seems
I was gonna go amazon, but i stand corrected
woah dota reference
awesome hoodie though
Beware and hereof be WISE!
Liked for the DotA reference
Quick question mr. llama, from all these video's, all these changes, are they for resurected only? or do they apply for regular d2/lod as well? Thanks for all the great vids! keep them up!
I'm pretty sure this is Resurrected only.
I hate that. It really feels like extortion to me. I'm not interested in buying a game I already own for balance updates. At least with StarCraft: Remastered you could still play with with everyone without the update. You still have to download an 8 GB update you don't want.
@@KJYKJY1985 Regular LoD has much more expansive and better balanced mods like Project Diablo 2 and Path of Diablo. I'd play those over current D2R if they had the modern graphics.
I agree with both of you. Over the years I have bought the game 3 times now, first time being just a week after D2 was released. I do currently play pd2.
@@KJYKJY1985 you don't want o to pay for the work others do?
All finishing moves hit before now the physical hits. Remember physical damage has never been possible before.
I played D2 since LoD released. I have played probably around 200 characters. poison-dagger necro, vulcano-druid. ranger-pala, triple-element sorc... not once have I played a kicksin. I even had a blade-fury sin with like 20 different procs, but I have in my entire D2 "career" not put a single skill point in that Martial arts tree.
You are the complete opposite to myself - I am a total D2 noob and I only play MA Sins throughout the years across various D2 vanilla and mod versions - only until to D2R that I started playing recommended builds like Javzon or Hammerdin xDD
@@phucnguyen0110 I play mostly sorcs and fun-builds. Obviously I had a hammerdin and a ww-barb and all "regular" builds, but assassins are just so much fun with traps, every time I start one I can't bring myself to play MA.
Ive only only used Dragon Talon because it's good vs some characters in pvp on a pure trapsin, mainly ele druids if you manage to kill all their pets and chase + telestomp. Better to kick and keep them locked down with kick + your traps rather than spam mindblast or fire bomb. A good ele druid could easily wsg out of mindblast. A fast kick can keep someone locked down in your traps pretty well for 2-3 seconds which is enough time to break through a druids cyclone armor and get some damage in. Trapsins have the advantage against ele druids anyways, but it's always funny to surprise them with kicking because they're expecting to wsg out of mindblast/fire bomb spam.
Source: my brain and 14ish years of serious competitive fpk/4v4s and winning multiple fpk ladders or pretty consistently coming in top 5.
@@WilliamAndrews0 Takes some skills to do well with fun builds - not with me though like I said, I am a total noob so I will have difficulties even with recommended builds and budget gears.
@@phucnguyen0110 it still depends on what you wanna do. I don't use a Pala-ranger for mf-runs, and while leveling I usually go hammer and respec later. This ranger is purely to play him for 20 minutes, say "haha, that was fun" and then never play him again, except when you want to show him off. I mostly make a lot of fun-chars, but then keep playing my 1 or 2 main-chars that are more standard like blizz or orb sorc and a gold-barb or a Javazon.
No one is talking about the massive nerf to assassin being able to Uber this patch the now always hits ONLY if you have charges. So we're back to having only a smiter to run trist effectively.
@ricky canup nope ladder 3 has mosaic runeword for claw which if u duelwield 2 100% chance to not consume charges on finisher and reset charges stack time
Big question though: does whirlwind count as a finishing move?
Nope
Probably not. WW with new bladeshield will be a very fun blender build though.
My gosh i wish it would
@@TheGreektrojan The big problem in this patch, as it was 20 years ago, is that as cool as WW+Blade Shield sounds, Blade Shield shreds your weapon durability like no other- you'd only ever want to use Blade Shield with an indestructible weapon, like a Phaseblade runeword, Azurewrath, or Shadow Killer. You can put the Chaos in your offhand, but then you're stuck with Shadowkiller in you main, and lose the Chaos bonuses for most other options, like kicks or w/e, and have a low damage claw attack.
Ofc not hah
him not using the charges when starting to explain tilted me hard.
Tbh, three kicks would be very good, cus you spend those all charges in sec
"kick once" or "kick kick kick" to spend individual charges? Wut? Now I'm more confused...
I still don't know how I'd invest the skill points in this build... because I'd love to have Tiger Strike, Dragon Claw, Fists of Fire, Claws of Thunder, Blades of Ice AND Claw Mastery all max'd (with 1 point wonders in Claw Block, Cloak of Shadows, Burst of Speed, etc)... but that would mean 120 skill points, which is impossible.
Would it be worth giving up Fists of Fire, considering a lot of Hell minions are immune to fire? IMO Claw Mastery is a MUST to be max'd.
Not sure why you would max claw mastery. Critical chance and dmg doesn't scale well on that skill and bonus attack rating might not be worth it. With some +skills from gear you will be fine with just 1 point.
@@Pharisaeus IMO I view it the same as the Barbarian weapon mastery and partially the same the Amazon's Critical Strike
@@StirbMensch Only that critical strike at lvl 10 gives you 56% on Ama and 17% on Sin, and lvl 20 gives 68% on Ama and 21 on Sin, so it's not much of a comparison. Weapon mastery on Barb is closer, although it's still better in terms of damage and critical chance. And on Barb there is not much else to put points into, so you can always dump them in the mastery.
@@Pharisaeus Thanks a bunch, man!
I started d2LOD with tiger strike assasin it will be great to try it again, looks fun with mix elemental dmg.
But still I think will be only fun not crazy strong when you see the max DMG capacity from skill points is not so crazy and even with new style you need 12 hits to build FIRE, lightning , COLD and PHENIX Strike to do good dmg (till you do that trap sin will clean everything or any other nromal char) but still definitely fun and interesting.
Maybe they can make charges last longer to be easier to store different charges and to have this sweet mix all the time.
I like the fact you need to switch between different skills all the time something not most of the classes have now ..
More weapons runeword need to be made for claws.
This maybe fun if you can make 4+sock runewords in 2 claws and when you carry them together the runeword is active.
This can give more options for claws.
Did they fix the bug where Dragon Tail did zero damage to physical immunes? This made the skill unusable IMO
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Phoenix strike, rift or destruction weapon, maybe a nice dragon shield or whatever "cast on hit" runewords you like= **MOBILE FIREWORKS FACTORY**
Should be fun though slower because dtalon eats all the charges. But man it will be fun.
@@TheGreektrojan With phoenix you want the charges - they all go off in a symphony of elements.
@@tinfoilpapercut3547 I phrased it poorly. I meant that because it eats charges so fast, it limits the amount of orbs you can spam while you charge up and since rift does like no damage, it'll be a bit slow. Superfun if everything does proc but I still feel that stanrdard riftsin and PS assassin are better separated out still. Hope to be proven wrong.
@@TheGreektrojan Try it out! I think the benefits of the Tri-elemental damage outweigh the slightly slower proccs of the Rift.
Curious how viable this build actually is during ladder start though
As fast as all builds that aren't using teleport
@@jedgurner1 that's good to know because I'm kinda tired of cold sorc and hammerdin for almost 20 years straight. Was looking forward to crappy builds becoming A tier so they're worth playing
Llama didn't say that charged bolts of Fists of Thunder spawn at certain distance, and bc of that they cannot hit 1 target all at once. that makes it useless
Really? I thought lvl3 Claw of Thunder does the most damage out of all the charge up moves.
@@SunderMount unfortunately, it doesn't work like amazon's charged strike. you can test it yourself if you want
i imagine this is a quick cast build...
finally duel claw is viable
I change my sheets(ya well my wife haha)
If memory serves, I finished the game with a martial arts assassin first.
So funny enough the old version of martial arts sins actually plays pretty well in console. Having a lot of success with it , I think with the changes it will be even better but martial arts sin is very viable when using a controller. Doesn’t feel as clunky
thats what i was thinking. never played with controller but in my head this seems op. i ordered a controller now. so hyped on the new patch. tigerstrike and dragon tail kick boom. bruce lee likes it
YOOO; MAKE CRESCENT MOON POSSIBLE IN CLAWS!!!!!!!!!
Definitely would love seeing this for more end game claw options…
The fact that now finishing moves only consume one charge regardless of the amount of charges you have... is this true for the non resurrected diablo 2 lod 1.14D as well or only resurrected? Cause the fact that resurrected does not have LAN makes me not want to buy it.
Kudos for the baby joining your party... "Diablo Minions grow stronger"
why dont you show actual gameplay
The funny Thing about Phoenix Strike ist, that IT can bei used with any Kind of wappon...did any one tried IT Out with a bow? XD realy funny how Buggy this is you cant build Up charches buuut you can finish with IT by using a normal bow Attack, this will consume all charges and will do.....NOTHING. Try IT Out mrlama and PLZ adrass IT XD.
But IT would be sooo funny If it works with bows...hilarious bowasin
Works far better on Project Diablo 2, it automatically uses charges as you attack far more competitive than this set up would of liked to see the pd2 method implemented as it’s far superior.
There is so much stuff "going on and managing" with this build that it almost feels like *driving a "manual gear" car.*
(Nah fam I'd much rather drive an *"automatic gear"* car aka other *simpler yet much more effective builds* lol)
Rip dragon talon hello Uber smiter... I don't think that they should have nerfed dragon talon the way that they did I think it was a good alternative for fast Ubers that was less safe than smiter but could take them out faster... This is like forcing me to eat vegetables by taking away all of the steak... It always hit ever since the release of resurrected I'm not sure if that was a bug introduced with this version of the game or not but I think it added a new meta for boss killing and gave appeal to the character with something unique almost like an answer to the smiter, I think if it is bad for PvP people could just consider it BM just like grief dual raven frost prayer aura etc but it's almost insulting to people's intelligence to neither acknowledge that it's a bug or act like it hasn't been never missing for months regardless of what the LCS says... In many ways the changes are a buff to other skills but it's definitely a Nerf to dragon talon...if it was an unintentional bug they could have removed it the same time they removed the stuff with the IAS frames and shape shifting
RainbowSin
Second!
This game has so many cool unique weapons, but an entire class skill tree is locked behind using claws
still weak
You can kick once and explode the entire screen with fire lightning and cold damage while regaining life and mana , then charge again once and explode again and yet somehow you've got a problem with fire aura burning the whole screen over the course of a few seconds?
Necro summoner also doesn't really do anything, and just let's its skills kill... so don't tell me its because we should have to do stuff to kill either. You've just gotten to the point where you're not used to having anything be actually good so anything new that is good, even if it requires an unrealistic amount of runes to be good, seems OP to you.
Still way too slow compared to anything else, shouldnt be a builder spender type game. Should just be like buffs that stay up all the time so you just need to build once and then you can just use finishers only.
I'm glad that blizzard wants to fix some issues in the game...but I'm afraid that they overdo it again or just do not stop with the change.... 😞
i don't want a game where every 3 weeks something changes and your charackter becomes virtually useless because nothing stays the way it is. i didn't buy such a game. They didn't promise such a game!
Game is boring without new content. I've played 20 years on and off on multiple mods but this vanilla with nothing new and just fugly treatment for console players (me) its just useless. Either make more expansions or just let it die or let the modders mod it!