Why Running Backs Don’t Matter

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  • @thekid2072
    @thekid2072 2 года назад +220

    The game has shifted from heavy run to heavy pass I think the era really changed around 2007-2010 because more qbs were getting spotlight

    • @raymondsmith2040
      @raymondsmith2040 2 года назад +9

      The culmination of today's game as far as the volume of pass vs run is concerned happened in 2011. That was when 3 qbs passed for over 5000 yards and I think 10 passed for over 4500 yards! I don't know if we'll ever get that again but that's when the passing game in the NFL took off.

    • @thekid2072
      @thekid2072 2 года назад +2

      @@raymondsmith2040 for sure

    • @RealCGH
      @RealCGH 2 года назад

      Also teams wanted more shifty and skinny rbs instead of bulky ones

    • @MegaBenjamin
      @MegaBenjamin 2 года назад +7

      07 Brady def helped with that

    • @phoenixgamer3480
      @phoenixgamer3480 2 года назад +1

      It's been a passing league for longer than that.

  • @jamessanford2991
    @jamessanford2991 2 года назад +204

    Interesting enough, Joe Mixon has been one of the top backs in the league with a terrible offensive line, we'll see how he does this season with an improved Bengals line

    • @Drkon6
      @Drkon6 2 года назад +26

      I think Mixon's case really is a case of his individual skill and not so much the o line. He may be one of the top backs in the NFL this coming season.

    • @someperson8151
      @someperson8151 2 года назад +1

      Mixon is a great athlete, but he's not a featured back. A great running back is one who is nearly automatic at the goal line and short yardage. A back who can get 100 first downs and 20 touchdowns in a season.

    • @redrangerpanda
      @redrangerpanda 2 года назад +12

      @@someperson8151 you're expectations of a RB in the modern game are too high, it's definitely closer to 60-75 1st and 10-15 TDs

    • @danielweinberg7403
      @danielweinberg7403 2 года назад +14

      Bengals oline was actually one of the best run blocking units it was their pass blocking which was atrocious

    • @fyree6305
      @fyree6305 2 года назад +11

      They have good run blocking. Many people do not know that bc the narrative of their poor pass protection.

  • @slimischillin7753
    @slimischillin7753 2 года назад +82

    When you don’t have a serviceable runningback, it matters. Probably doesn’t matter a lot when you have an elite passing game, like my team, but CEH isn’t good. It definitely handicaps the offense and prevents them from being the best offense they could be. Which is why I’m hyped about some of our new backs.

    • @kindleyfernand4389
      @kindleyfernand4389 2 года назад +1

      What is your team?

    • @slimischillin7753
      @slimischillin7753 2 года назад +5

      @@kindleyfernand4389 chiefs

    • @kev792
      @kev792 2 года назад

      @@slimischillin7753 Andy hasn’t really played to CEH skill set I think and he’s been injured apparently. With him healthy and the competitive RB room, I think we’ll see something from him. But yea he’s not an elite RB and Veach shouldn’t have wasted a 1st round pick on him.

    • @slimischillin7753
      @slimischillin7753 2 года назад

      @@kev792 he’s not a good zone runner and sees lanes late. He’s best following behind a fullback on power runs. In each of his best games, we ran power. Coming out of college, he was supposed to have good vision & receiving abilities & it’s been the opposite in the pros. He also isn’t fast or quick. He has no outstanding physical traits. He’s really been kinda basic as a runner.

    • @kev792
      @kev792 2 года назад

      @@slimischillin7753 Apparently he’s been injured and never got back to full health, so we’ll see. I don’t think he’s basic but I do think he’s a C-class RB who can get 1000+ yards behind this Oline if utilized properly.

  • @zay_gzs5635
    @zay_gzs5635 2 года назад +64

    You’re kind of right but it depends on the runner because there’s many running backs who just aren’t good because they were why don’t every running back rush for 1000 yards or have a starting job

    • @tgs5725
      @tgs5725 2 года назад +4

      Because not every team has a good O-Line

    • @imbatmam4760
      @imbatmam4760 2 года назад +6

      @@tgs5725 there are some good running backs that don't need a good o line but had they had a good o line they would've been really good

    • @tgs5725
      @tgs5725 2 года назад +1

      @@imbatmam4760 well yeah Barry Sanders had a trash O-line. But he's arguably the best RB to ever play the game. If he ran behind Emmitts O-Line he probably would have retired with 20k yards. But those kind of players are the exception

    • @shiestlifesam
      @shiestlifesam 2 года назад

      @@tgs5725 yea honestly fit plays more of a role in a players career than most give it credit for take lamar for example in the draft at the time wasnt too many teams built for him to be as good as he is it takes a coach that knows what he has and what he needs to make it better alot teams want instant production but dont give the player instant support every position needs another to succeed a shitty line can destroy a backfield players career before he even has a chance to adapt

  • @truthistruth4186
    @truthistruth4186 2 года назад +42

    Leveon Bell was one of the most confusing players to watch to me. He had next level patience, I thought he was a bad RB. But he was always setting up his blocks to make his moves.

    • @ballsballsballs3617
      @ballsballsballs3617 2 года назад +2

      Bell was the undisputed best back in the league for a solid 3 years

  • @josephn1698
    @josephn1698 Год назад +5

    Coming back to this video in an off-season where
    1. Zeke and Dalvin were cut
    2. Mixon and Jones restructuring contracts so that their teams continues with them.
    3. Pollard, Barkley and Jacobs are stuck on the franchise tag.
    4. Viable backup options like Kareem Hunt remain free agents.
    5. Contract talks with Ekeler are messy.
    really makes you feel bad for the position. Only Derrick Henry, CMC and Chubb seem safe at the moment and that’s only because they’re such athletic freaks.

    • @vincemaria3981
      @vincemaria3981 Год назад +2

      Sanders actually got paid decently well

    • @Tubalcain422
      @Tubalcain422 Год назад +2

      @@vincemaria3981sanders got overpaid pretty well.

    • @vincemaria3981
      @vincemaria3981 Год назад +1

      @@Tubalcain422 I agree

  • @samnaghizadeh2209
    @samnaghizadeh2209 2 года назад +29

    It has a lot to do with the fact that back then teams didnt produce good offensive weapons (like wide receivers, tight ends), and qbs were honestly valued less than running backs.

    • @WatersAbove77
      @WatersAbove77 Год назад +1

      Also the rules benefit receivers a lot now. DBs used to be able to rape WRs. Big pass plays are more entertaining now, allegedly.

  • @ExtraSockProductions
    @ExtraSockProductions 2 года назад +42

    Running the ball is still a football essential. I think what will shift is RB’s getting big pay days and having more team friendly opt-out contracts. But to be fair-every position is replaceable unless you got a true elite player. So you can say this about WR, TE and QB as well.

    • @raymondsmith2040
      @raymondsmith2040 2 года назад +7

      Also multiple rb sets. In today's NFL the "backup" rb almost as much volume as the starter. Gone are the days of having 40 runs called in a game and your starting rb is getting 35 of those.

    • @henrylam92
      @henrylam92 2 года назад +4

      @@raymondsmith2040 a solid Oline is what matters. It’s why the cowboys always have a decent running game w any RBs. It does help to have depth tho. A good running game, makes an average QB less predictable.

    • @ShadH93
      @ShadH93 2 года назад +1

      I’m with you bro running the ball is essential ain’t no way you should be inches and goal and passing the ball I’m looking at you Seattle. Basically if you have no run game, these defensive coordinators are too smart they’ll figure you out.

    • @ExtraSockProductions
      @ExtraSockProductions 2 года назад

      @@henrylam92 Having good line does help produce competent run games-but if all your rb’s are average than it’ll be a lot easier to snuff and neutralize. Which is why teams overpay sometimes for RB’s bc they have something that the average guy doesn’t have.

    • @DreadPages
      @DreadPages 2 года назад +1

      Not really. There is a glut of talented running backs. There isnt a lot of talented qbs. WRs that are good are becoming more common, hence the receiver arms race this past offseason. Tight ends that are great are pretty rare. But can be replaced by simply having another receiver out there. Same with receiving backs.
      Running backs need speed and vision. And those are pretty common. Also theres only rly a need for 1 in on any given play.
      Too many examples of how low impact who actually runs the ball is. With basically only derrick henry being the big exception to the rule.

  • @GLITCHDGALAXY
    @GLITCHDGALAXY 2 года назад +52

    I disagree with this take when it comes to teams like the Panthers, Colts, and Saints. When the Panthers had CMC last season, they went 4-3 while they went 1-9 without him. If CMC was healthy that whole year, it was possible for CMC to possibly carry his team to the playoffs. It's important for the Colts to have a running game rn because they don't have any recievers and if the Colts pass the ball too much, interceptions will be thrown. JT is all around the best RB Indy has and if they didn't have him, the Colts offense would probably suck. When Alvin Kamara didn't play for the Saints last season, they went 0-4 and it really hurt them from making the playoffs, and their passing offense wasn't that good without Michael Thomas. If a team in general doesn't have a good pass offense or O-Line, a great RB would be important to them if they can run great behind an average or bad o-line.

    • @Drake4176
      @Drake4176 2 года назад +4

      That's the reason they're expendable. Rb's are the most likely to be injured, and all of those you named are over utilized on their respected teams, which is not only why their teams do poorly without them, but also why they are injured for multiple games throughout the season.

    • @dajuanriddick9688
      @dajuanriddick9688 2 года назад

      That’s because the panthers centered there whole offense around a injury prone running back and when they no longer had him they didn’t have a plan B

    • @deonnelson9780
      @deonnelson9780 2 года назад +1

      They also had a average qb which didn't help them.

  • @r.williamcomm7693
    @r.williamcomm7693 2 года назад +14

    You’re missing something though. Truly excellent RBs usually gain more yards & score more TDS than their backup PLUS they often block better too. Marshal Faulk powered the Greatest Show on Turf. Yes sometimes it’s marginal but that be the difference between winning and losing. Not to mention a truly dynamic back can put a Defense on its heals to help the passing game. No doubt that 99% of even the excellent running backs don’t dominate through two NFL contracts but nothing wrong with renegotiating on the first contract for a truly special back. The only other option is to find several special bags like the 2017 Philadelphia Eagles

    • @NativeBlackAmericanTv
      @NativeBlackAmericanTv 2 года назад

      ...thank you...

    • @toyotaecw
      @toyotaecw 2 года назад +4

      The Patriots have been running back by committee since 2004. Even with Corey Dillon on the roster Kevin Faulk was still a pivotal safety valve and 3rd down back for Brady. As a Pats fan there’s been several backs go through the locker room I all thought were irreplaceable. Danny Woodhead, Shane Vereen, Heath Evans, Sony Michell, soon to be James White. All of them were replaced. RB is an important position , but I think the RB by committee is a better option than one dominant back.

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 2 года назад

      @@toyotaecw Ekeler has been wanting another RB to step up so that they can split carries

    • @NativeBlackAmericanTv
      @NativeBlackAmericanTv 2 года назад

      ​@@toyotaecw All WERE "IRREPLACEABLE"as you once-upon-a-time correctly thought. But when they were, it had to be by backs with comparable high-level skills. For that system. I know you know Belichick does not figure "any old back" can take the place of a key running back(in HIS system)...who was exceptional enough to do what was needed. And when it comes to offensive "schemes" that feature a more POWER/SPEED/MULTI-TALENT approach... coaches will want/draft/acquire accordingly. My problem was with armchair talkers minimizing the impact of an EXCEPTIONAL running back for a team. You cannot replace a Christian McCaffrey, Derrick Henry with just any old body. Both make a HUGE difference. Others might be Alvin Kamara. Hell, you can go to damn near ANY position...and there are exceptions AMONG the pro exceptionals...who make an un-replaceable difference at their positions. Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup, Tyreek Hill...and on and on... so, a talker minimizing the significance of the best of the best at ANY position...as a former player? Who KNOWS when you are up against a super bad-ass somewhere on the opposition? On ANY level... THAT "bad-ass" matters. And on pro-level he gets PAID AND SOUGHT AFTER for a reason. And only a damn fool or un-baptized will diminish their importance for discussion sake.

  • @lultrill8147
    @lultrill8147 2 года назад +45

    5 years from now top rb's are gonna be small wideouts with good footwork and blazing speed I already see the trend

    • @huhwhat0
      @huhwhat0 2 года назад +1

      King Henry still the goat tho.

    • @henrylam92
      @henrylam92 2 года назад +2

      @@huhwhat0 he is one of the last in his kind. CJ2k is prob my fav time w the titans

    • @DreadPages
      @DreadPages 2 года назад

      You will still find be backs. They just wont be paid much. And they're probably just there as role players.
      Just like the big nose nackle. Every team wants 1 or 2 big run stuffers. But for the most part their dts are all more pass rushers.

    • @summerbaby21
      @summerbaby21 2 года назад +3

      Super small too like 5'7 5'9

    • @shrezzy0940
      @shrezzy0940 2 года назад

      TP gonna be there

  • @coletrain4106
    @coletrain4106 2 года назад +5

    It has more to do with the fact that running backs take the most abuse and are basically nearly used up during their rookie contract...so it's illogical to pay for what can easily be replaced by another at a discount...sad but true.

  • @jamesmincks6720
    @jamesmincks6720 2 года назад +52

    I agree. A really good O-line can make almost any running back look good. Not worth high draft pick or huge contracts.

    • @NativeBlackAmericanTv
      @NativeBlackAmericanTv 2 года назад +1

      ...bullshit.

    • @savagetv6460
      @savagetv6460 2 года назад +2

      I disagree. They can make rbs look ok

    • @dylanf3108
      @dylanf3108 2 года назад +7

      @@NativeBlackAmericanTv Advanced data has shown that 90 percent of a good run game is the OL’s blocking ability.

    • @NativeBlackAmericanTv
      @NativeBlackAmericanTv 2 года назад

      @@dylanf3108 'get back to your Madden game... "Advanced Data?" Get outta heah' wit' that crap. Run that by Belichick...check his response...

    • @chance2413
      @chance2413 2 года назад +3

      @@NativeBlackAmericanTv It's a fact. Bad olines can make a good rb bad. A good oline can make a bad Rb good. Judging by your username, I think I know why you are mad oline's make Rb's who they are. It's cool, plenty of brothas on the line too

  • @1lfjewelz181
    @1lfjewelz181 2 года назад +6

    I think the versatility of QBs has played a large impact since there are so many great run-savvy dudes. It takes out the obvious read factor too, aside from counter rushes to weak side.

  • @ryanball2754
    @ryanball2754 2 года назад +2

    I'm sorry, I understand what you are saying but you can make those same arguments with every other position on the field.
    Why QB's Don't Matter!
    Fun Fact- The highest Salary Cap hit for a Starting QB to make it to a Super bowl in the last 22 years is Peyton Manning at 18.88% of their salary cap. He lost to Drew Brees and the Saints with Drew taking 8.41%
    The Second highest salary cap hit to make it to the Super bowl was Matt Ryan in 2016 at 15.3%. He lost to the Patriots and Tom Brady who was taking 8.87%.
    All of Tom Brady's Super bowl wins
    2001- .46% of salary cap
    2003- 4.42%
    2004- 6.28%
    2014- 11.13%
    2016- 8.87%
    2018- 12.42%
    2020- 12.61%
    Peyton Manning's Super bowl wins
    2006- 8.38%
    2015- 12.21%
    Ben Roethlisberger
    2005- 4.94%
    2008- 7.11%
    Drew Brees
    2009- 8.41%
    Aaron Rodgers
    2010- 5.34%
    Joe Flacco
    2012- 6.63%
    Russell Wilson
    2013- .55%
    2014 when they lost .61%
    Patrick Mahomes
    2019- 2.38%
    Overpaying a QB is not a smart thing to do.
    It's a "Team" game.

  • @CbreezyBearded
    @CbreezyBearded 2 года назад +6

    to be honest though you can make the same argument for receivers. the pure volume of talented receivers has increased so much that so many of them are replaceable and injuries happen and now they don't perform the same.
    you could also argue that the sheer amount of injuries that are posed to running backs is more reason to pay them more rather than less. gotta pay for the bodily sacrifice and it can't be less that what linemen are paid because they risk their body just as much. just some fun counter arguments to think about😅

    • @tonyng1600
      @tonyng1600 Год назад

      a construction worker most definately work harder then a CEO, you should go to the union and ask them to ask for CEO pays.

  • @jeeveey
    @jeeveey 2 года назад +3

    I could see the Browns’ approach being popular in the future of the league. Having two good guys instead of one great player and a no name backup gives not only versatility but also durability to the position. Not being used as much prevents injuries and can extend the amount of time a player is able to play.

  • @michaelconstantinemiranda2352
    @michaelconstantinemiranda2352 2 года назад +3

    totally agree. i would rather use the capspace to pay a probowl caliber guard or center rather than spend it on a probowl caliber rb. a great oline is the foundation of a great running game, not an elite rb. plus you also help the passing game by providing protection to your qb. it's like hitting 2 birds w/ one stone

  • @NickGerse
    @NickGerse 2 года назад +25

    In any level of Football below the pro level, running back is an extremely valued position. But in the pros, it really doesn’t matter in today’s league. They’re easily replaceable with a decent line.

    • @SpoonHurler
      @SpoonHurler 2 года назад +3

      But even in high school and college you want a stable of horses to run out not just 1 guy. The difference is of course you don't gotta pay 'em... Officially.

    • @austandinglosking
      @austandinglosking 2 года назад

      You sound like an idiot and you have a very surfaced level view of football obviously

  • @satanspit4101
    @satanspit4101 2 года назад +4

    Hold up. Zek is a great pass blocker. Also can also catch out of the backfield. Pollard is help by coming in later in the game. When the defense is worn down.

    • @00ghostcobra
      @00ghostcobra 2 года назад +1

      Exactly.. I don't know why most don't understand this..

  • @TheReelRevolution
    @TheReelRevolution Год назад +2

    RBs should stop pass blocking. They should tell the coaches they're only getting paid enough to rush and catch. See how fast shit changes.

    • @dramatyst5661
      @dramatyst5661 Год назад +3

      Yeah that's a cute idea but then they will get cut and replaced by a young hungry kid 😂😂

    • @TheReelRevolution
      @TheReelRevolution Год назад +1

      @@dramatyst5661 Why would that young kid pass ock if he knows the same thing will be done to him. The owners are gonna keep this cycle going for all RBs today and all the ones in the future.

  • @staidenofanarchy
    @staidenofanarchy 2 года назад +4

    I miss the running back era, I wish there were more throwback games on youtube

    • @fadercreek
      @fadercreek 2 года назад

      nfl throwback has games like that

  • @bigrock_2362
    @bigrock_2362 Год назад +1

    They may not matter but you can’t lie it’s the most entertaining position to watch

  • @BrooklynsFinestOG
    @BrooklynsFinestOG Год назад +1

    All of what you said can be translated to an overpaid QB, because without a good OL your overpaid QB can be reverted to a HS QB.

  • @thetexanshurtme
    @thetexanshurtme 2 года назад +6

    Counter argument: there are few runningbacks in NFL history who are worthy of pay days, and were elite regardless of oline play. An example of this is Barry sanders, who was so shifty, that he didn't need an Oline lol

    • @purplecreature8178
      @purplecreature8178 2 года назад +1

      as a lions fan I love you...

    • @kingtrawal
      @kingtrawal Год назад

      Adrian Peterson too

    • @toob_noob4381
      @toob_noob4381 Год назад

      We're talking modern NFL
      Back then you had Barry sanders, Emmitt Smith, Walter Peyton
      But now you can get yourself a 1000 yard rusher in the 4th round with relative ease
      You don't gotta commit to a back

  • @MarchOnRome
    @MarchOnRome 10 месяцев назад

    6:00 “McCaffery was a beast. Was. Not anymore” Lmao over a year later, he’s having his best season of his career. Another great take by big brain Mike.

    • @MarvelMadness2003
      @MarvelMadness2003 26 дней назад

      Yea and look at the rushing game without him. The 49ers this season are proving he is replaceable like all runnjngbacks.

  • @ryryroni5135
    @ryryroni5135 Год назад +3

    He predicted the future

    • @Marvelfan46
      @Marvelfan46 9 месяцев назад

      How? Christian mcafree is going off and is a asset to the team

    • @MarvelMadness2003
      @MarvelMadness2003 26 дней назад

      @@Marvelfan46no he’s not. Look at this season. The backups are shining

  • @ShadH93
    @ShadH93 2 года назад +3

    Running the ball is still essential ain’t no way you should be inches and goal and passing the ball I’m looking at you Seattle. Basically if you have no run game, these defensive coordinators are too smart they’ll figure you out. This is no way targeted at the creator of the video I know he’s talking about the position. I’m just talking about the aspect of the game.

    • @dylanf3108
      @dylanf3108 2 года назад

      He never said that running the ball wasn’t essentially just that RBs don’t matter.

    • @ShadH93
      @ShadH93 2 года назад

      @@dylanf3108 and that’s what I just said this is not targeted at him, we are talking about two separate things, if you read my comment all the way. He’s talking about the position, I’m talking about the act of running the ball whether it be wr sweep, rb, or qb it adds another element to the game

  • @theeguythatplaysbasketball1902
    @theeguythatplaysbasketball1902 Год назад +4

    Predicted it you did

    • @Marvelfan46
      @Marvelfan46 9 месяцев назад

      Christian mcafree says otherwise

    • @MarvelMadness2003
      @MarvelMadness2003 26 дней назад

      @@Marvelfan46his backups are doing just fine right now. Proves he’s not worth it

  • @toomanylies7716
    @toomanylies7716 2 года назад +2

    Damn, that was cold. But can't argue with the facts. I'll still say that some backs aren't interchangeable. Some can't see a hole if it was right in front of them and constantly run into there own line and have miserable production, while the other back on the team fairs far better.

  • @JamenLS
    @JamenLS Год назад +1

    Running backs dont matter because of the lack of defense thats allowed due to rules which enable qbs and receivers to excel tremendously

  • @KingPeezy14
    @KingPeezy14 2 года назад +2

    But if you look at what happened withy Dak, Zeke, and the Cowboys, Dak didn’t do good without Zeke (back before Zeke was struggling), and Zeke didn’t do good without Dak. I’m sure someone can find stats on how many defenders are in the box when there’s a top 5 RB for the other team or top 5/10 rushing offense and passing offense. I think the RB forces teams to put heavier guys in the lineup and helps the passing game.
    Also, you can attribute the passing game’s success to the O-Line too. And with how many great WR’s are in the game, they deserve some credit for that too. We saw how bad Brady did during his last year with the Pats when they had 0 WR talent. I just think RB’s are really undervalued, at least by the media and people who are heavily influenced by the media. You can find stats to disregard any position, even QB, if you give credit to other parts of the team. That’s why it’s a team sport.
    Examples of QB’s “not mattering” would be Foles coming in as a back up and winning the SB (pretty much a parallel to the examples in this video of RB’s getting hurt and their replacement being good enough or better). Or Baker Mayfield’s good few years with the Browns, where he couldn’t do much without the run game and play action. Or Jonathan Taylor almost carrying the Colts to the playoffs if it wasn’t for Carson Wentz getting the ball more than he should have and throwing interceptions and playoff hopes right into the other teams’ hands. Or the countless QB’s who struggled without having a good O-Line, then played much better when the O-Line got better.

  • @purework5372
    @purework5372 2 года назад +1

    That’s why having duo running back rooms is better

  • @rafsoverflow
    @rafsoverflow 2 года назад +1

    The jokes are unnecessary, your channel is good as is no need for silly humor or sexual jokes

  • @19EHF
    @19EHF 2 года назад +4

    Nowadays teams prefer a dual threat RB than a traditional rb

    • @ma6ik444
      @ma6ik444 2 года назад

      I would rather have a RB with good hands and ok WRS, than the other way around.

  • @4realGTFOH
    @4realGTFOH 2 года назад +8

    Adrian Peterson was the exception

    • @henrylam92
      @henrylam92 2 года назад +1

      And LT

    • @crater044
      @crater044 2 года назад

      Pretty sure there were many great RBs long before Peterson.

    • @4realGTFOH
      @4realGTFOH 2 года назад

      @@crater044 many actually but back then RBs were more important than the QB. Today, not so much.

    • @4realGTFOH
      @4realGTFOH 2 года назад

      @@henrylam92 sort of. Peterson just had the longevity LT did not

    • @henrylam92
      @henrylam92 2 года назад

      @@4realGTFOH LT just decided to retire earlier than AP. LT spend 8 seasons w chargers b4 he was let go (prob didn’t want to pay him) and still performed well after that but age caught up to him plus he played for the Jets. AP spent 9 seasons w the Vikings but injuries ‘14 & ‘16 and then didn’t really come back until 2018 w WAS. He might have played couple more seasons than LT but if you take out the years he was injured for whole season or played less than 4 games then it is really similar to LT longevity. AP might have one more season than LT in terms of starting. Average RBs in the league last 2.5 seasons

  • @Braylenc123
    @Braylenc123 2 года назад +3

    when you evaluate running backs in today’s nfl you are looking for serviceable hands, and yards after contact

  • @ryantunks
    @ryantunks 2 года назад +1

    same thing I said about receivers in the pre-spread era

  • @qownsqud3207
    @qownsqud3207 Год назад +1

    Its so crazy to me. They touch the ball the 2nd most one any offense yet theyre so undervalued. Mathmatically, sure it makes sense. Just find a rb that averages 4 yards a carry, dime a dozen. But... is it? Honestly, i think itd be best for rbs to force short term contracts and max that out.
    Rbs are becoming the true modern day mercenaries

  • @michaelfeldman1181
    @michaelfeldman1181 2 года назад +1

    I wonder why you had nothing negative to say about JT?

  • @sunnyrobinson2128
    @sunnyrobinson2128 2 года назад +1

    Disagree if that was the case every team would be doing it.
    Bonus if you can't draw the defense in with the run the pass is that much harder.
    Good running backs makes offensive of lines better. Two different styles of blocking from pass to run. 🤔

  • @SilkandScrooge
    @SilkandScrooge 2 года назад +3

    You should've said something about how the Ravens had jk Dobbins and gus Edwards out last season but still managed to make a few random RBs effective.

    • @jonwicked7031
      @jonwicked7031 2 года назад +1

      That’s only because the ravens are a run heavy team a pass heavy team would probably have a missing piece and have no way to make any sort of production without the star RB

    • @OCPARKWAY
      @OCPARKWAY 7 месяцев назад

      Lamar Jackson's rushing ability opens things up for running backs because you have to account for him..

  • @GhostZombieLife
    @GhostZombieLife 6 месяцев назад

    The problem is that team would rather run 1 RB at a time into the ground. It should be a nice mix between 3 players with clear roles but teams don't spend enough time running. Teams would rather crash and burn in the pass game before making the right by play call by rushing

  • @forwardthinker4139
    @forwardthinker4139 2 года назад +3

    If you QB is good you don't need the elite back.... but if you don't have the Gunslinger you need the Elite Running Back

    • @ma6ik444
      @ma6ik444 2 года назад +1

      I think that’s why Miami picked up Sony, Edmonds and Mostert. They’re stacked.

    • @forwardthinker4139
      @forwardthinker4139 2 года назад

      @@ma6ik444 theres always a premium on a bellcow rb... But they dont come a dime a dozen anymore .. Because the evolution of the athelete

  • @Bl00dwerK
    @Bl00dwerK 2 года назад +4

    The passing game is based off of referee effort... and the rule book.

  • @ljessecusterl
    @ljessecusterl 2 года назад +2

    Damn, the jokes just didn't stop on this one.

  • @berlindonut5444
    @berlindonut5444 2 года назад +1

    This means Emmitt's Smiths rushing record will never be broken...I can live with that!

    • @OCPARKWAY
      @OCPARKWAY 7 месяцев назад

      That's pretty safe..Agreed

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 2 года назад

    Eventually the next Barry Sanders will play in the league and dominate in a way that hasn't been seen since AP and will be on like 10 teams in 10 years because of the way the NFL is trending, yet he'll still have over 1700-2000 yards, 12-15 TDs a season during that time.

  • @dereklasker5350
    @dereklasker5350 2 года назад

    This shouldn’t be a hot take but it apparently is: Derrick Henry is not actually a dominant running back, he just gets way more touches than any other back and accumulates high stats that way. His per carry stats are aggressively mid

  • @hornetguy9063
    @hornetguy9063 2 года назад +1

    This is exactly why NCAA players need to be in the meeting the next time the NFLPA and NFL are agreeing to a CBA. Even with NIL in NCAA, this system is completely unfair to running backs. And at lower levels, running backs are often THE star player.
    Right now you’d have to be an idiot to be coming up as a running back with NFL aspirations. Go be a wide receiver, and have a much longer career for a higher AAV. And less physical damage.

    • @defnessrealtalk4016
      @defnessrealtalk4016 Год назад

      Correct. Pretty soon, 3rd Corners gonna make $15 mil per....more than 98% of all RBs in NFL

  • @superricky13
    @superricky13 2 года назад +1

    Sad but true. GB definitely fell prey to this.

  • @edwardkelly3280
    @edwardkelly3280 2 года назад

    Two back system is basically almost every team game plan for almost the past 20 years.Remember in the later 2000s teams like New Orleans and Tennessee had two running backs. One a more powerful running back(Deuce McAllistar and LenDale White and the contrast speedier(Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson).
    That’s what Dallas doing with Elliot and Pollard.
    We rarely get to see a running back that dominate 30 carries a game.
    I think Jerome Bettis said it best with scheme changes. The 1990s you have big running backs(220+ LBS) like Jerome Bettis,Eddie George and Emmit Smith was running from I formation. The 2000s when football see more shotgun formations and smaller running backs was more acceptable.Running backs also need to be more impactful catching

  • @abikuneebus
    @abikuneebus Год назад +1

    hard disagree

  • @sgsavitar522
    @sgsavitar522 2 года назад +2

    Think they should be paid more if they are top 10 in the draft on their rookie deal idk. But what about HB like Smith, Payton, Gore, Peterson, Lynch, Tomlinson, Brown the list goes on those are elite RB that change the game that are reliable. So I would 50% agree with and what you said 50% disagree.

    • @jameshollister8294
      @jameshollister8294 2 года назад

      Exactly they just need to develop diffrent contracts for Prductive RB .The ones that do good when they are drafted because a RB is useful

  • @kger4643
    @kger4643 2 года назад +2

    CMC and 👑King Henry are the 2 that COULD be worth it.

    • @henrylam92
      @henrylam92 2 года назад +3

      Injuries are the biggest issue if you put too much load on these RBs

  • @TobiTobiTobi1
    @TobiTobiTobi1 2 года назад

    This is temporary. You cant keep putting 6' 220 lb linebackers on the field and think every coach is gonna pass all day. I dont think itll ever be all run heavy like earlier football days but youll see more Titans and Colts style teams that rely on running and defense

  • @scsmith4604
    @scsmith4604 Год назад

    Agents for running backs must hate this video

  • @rendezvous777
    @rendezvous777 Год назад

    What you actually mean is running banks shouldn't be signed to long term deals. The per year rate will be just about the same just 1-2 years instead.

  • @Prettytony0627
    @Prettytony0627 2 года назад

    So glad my 9ers understand this. Great video!

  • @joshbradfield629
    @joshbradfield629 Год назад

    It’s amazing how many GMs ignore simple analytics. Especially my Falcons! Elite running backs are like Christmas decorations. No matter how good they look, they always get taken down before the Super Bowl. And the moment you pay them, they become so irrelevant that they can’t even help a fantasy team

    • @Marvelfan46
      @Marvelfan46 9 месяцев назад

      Christian mcafree?

    • @joshbradfield629
      @joshbradfield629 9 месяцев назад

      @@Marvelfan46 still dangerous when healthy. But oft injured

  • @Kangaroo-Bob
    @Kangaroo-Bob 2 года назад

    Counterpoint: Todd Gurley being injured cost the Rams a Superbowl

  • @Mazhabb
    @Mazhabb 2 года назад

    Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, ??

  • @willosotherworld7109
    @willosotherworld7109 2 года назад +1

    It’s sad, the NFL has shifted towards a pass-heavy league where running backs are bro no less depended on than way back when, and also running backs are not very durable anymore, a 30 year old running back is in reality like 60, physically. And I think it really has to do that the fact that they are physical and are being used physically really deteriorated their body faster than other positions, causing once monster RB’s to lose out on their careers. I notice a trend, however. Most of these guys’ careers made downfalls due to injuries and/or after they got a new extension. I call this trend:
    *The Curse of the Running Back Contract*

  • @youngf.l.y.1467
    @youngf.l.y.1467 2 года назад

    RB is the easiest position to replace because it is the position that does not change it role from middle school ball all the way to NFL just talent level

  • @Melchirobin
    @Melchirobin 2 года назад

    How did you not mention Kamera in the entire video

  • @briano9397
    @briano9397 2 года назад

    As a Seahawks fan with a subpar Oline who are dedicating everything and a franchise QB into the running game. This video is depressing now and the memory of it will continue to depress me as the season goes on

  • @January16th08
    @January16th08 2 года назад

    5:43 Patriots take this to heart

  • @MRdownrising
    @MRdownrising 2 года назад

    Honestly the most valueable thing a back can do is be a elite blocker

  • @jonathanpielmeier4956
    @jonathanpielmeier4956 2 года назад

    Every year the variance b/w starting RBs is so minimal. Yards per carry ranges from 3.7-5.5, with most falling between 4.0-4.7. That’s simply not enough to justify paying one to a massive contract when you can just have a rookie or a cheap FA fall outta bed and run for 4.0 per carry - especially when the rate of injury is so high.

  • @jackroth5110
    @jackroth5110 Год назад

    Running backs do matter.

    • @MarvelMadness2003
      @MarvelMadness2003 26 дней назад

      They matter but not the person running. You don’t need a high paying back. A free agent can get you success

  • @foxythegod28
    @foxythegod28 2 года назад

    Honestly, the should you or should you not pay your running back is a moving target player to player. Big example was the chiefs, you went from Ware to Hunt which was decent running back to great running back to then running with LM and DW neither of which broke 500yards during the regular season and Williams only making an impact in the playoffs. Now they have 6RB’s on the roster trying to find a solid replacement to when they had Hunt. Comparing the impact of guys like Damien Williams and Spencer Ware to guys like CMC, AK and JT along with the fact that none of the players mentioned outside of Bell were actually bad or heavily regressed. We’ll see how injuries affect Henry and CMC long term but Zeke still put up 1000 yards last year Gordon has remained consistent.

  • @Crusader1815
    @Crusader1815 2 года назад

    Tom Landry thought like this, until he got Tony Dorsett. Then he realized that some backs DO matter.

  • @Cipher_8
    @Cipher_8 2 года назад

    Pollard's avg. goes down to 4 if he's seeing the bulk of carries Zeke does. Any football fan knows that his high numbers are because he's seeing a lot less work. Law of averages.

  • @huejerection4942
    @huejerection4942 2 года назад

    I agree that running backs aren't valued like they once were. But I don't agree with everything you Said. Holes are one thing, but backs like hunt and chubb who don't go down on the first tackle, are able to run thru guys and see the field are special. So yes most RBs are replaceable. But guys like Henry, Hunt, Chubb, Taylor are special and cannot be replaced.

  • @matthewschwab5510
    @matthewschwab5510 2 года назад

    This video applies to every running back…except Barry Sanders argue a wall

  • @v2huhroon
    @v2huhroon 2 года назад +1

    jokes were cringe this ep bro appreciate the constant uploads though

  • @davidrobbins3018
    @davidrobbins3018 2 года назад

    Suprized you didnt mention the San Francisco 49ers Coach kyle Shannahans plug and play running game that has RB by commitee and his Father Mikes same success in Dever with 6th round pick terrell Davis and winning 2 Superbowls with him. When the 49ers lost Raheem Mostert in the 1st game with an ACL injury, Kyle plugged in 5th round pick running back Elijah Mitchell and the rookie gained almost 1000 yds splitting time with WR Debo Samuel due to many injuries. Now if that doesnt drive home your point I dont know what will. Tell me what you think.

  • @MisterRickSinister
    @MisterRickSinister 2 года назад

    Kareem ran toward a girl in a hallway... It wasnt a knock out blow ... He really didnt make much contact at all. . . . but he LIED about it.

  • @2DarkHorizon
    @2DarkHorizon Год назад

    NFL needs to change the rule that incomplete passes creates negative yards. This will even the playing field for running backs and quarter backs. Running backs are too disadvantaged in getting negatives yards every play. They are forced to run in an instant. Whilst the quarter back can wait it out. So of course the running backs become more predictable and less important. If running backs didn't get negative yards they would actually be more creative and this will open up the game for them much more. Even better NFL should change the rule so that quarter backs and running backs dont' get any negative yards at all. Than the running back can wait it out behind the line and be much more tricky and pick when to run. It will make the NFL running game much different.

  • @nikibf28
    @nikibf28 2 года назад

    I disagree

  • @fredbegin3850
    @fredbegin3850 2 года назад

    So blocking, pass catching, fumbling also don't count for anything ? If you look only at running you come to this conclusion otherwise it matters who is in the backfield

  • @melenzoferrer4786
    @melenzoferrer4786 Год назад

    This is the episode with the most expletives and cancellable s**t I have heard! Relevant today.

  • @cbh4god76
    @cbh4god76 2 года назад

    49ers. Packers. Rams. Have situational (Committee) RBs. And that is where the league is going. Still running the ball. But you might have two 500 yd. Guys. With 300-500 receiving yds as well.

  • @edman813
    @edman813 2 года назад

    Actually they do matter, what happens in situations where weather makes throwing the ball a colossal gamble? Or when QBs are pick machines and or get taken out? RBs like Austin Ekeler, Nick Chubb and Christian McCaffrey (not injured) greatly help on offense, when all fails.
    The actual position that doesn't matter as much is Tight End for offense and Defensive Tackle on Defense. TEs are supposed to block, but you're not getting one that can ever block the same way an Olineman can, nor are they explosive enough comparable to WRs, you only really get a fraction of both and is that really worth it? Especially for the first 4 rounds? Defensive Tackles are nothing more than bodies for olineman to preoccupy, RBs like Nick Chubb rarely get impacted by them, and QBs rarely take sacks from them compared to Edge Rushers/Linebackers, and how often can you expect a DT to catch up to the egg in the basket a receiver?

    • @MarvelMadness2003
      @MarvelMadness2003 26 дней назад

      Wrong. You don’t need a start running back to do that. A random free agent can do all that. Look at the 49ers without mcafree. They are doing just fine

  • @bloodyshothvacr
    @bloodyshothvacr 2 года назад

    As someone who played RB in HS and college this does suck how RB are replaceable but sad but it is true

  • @Dshatila1983
    @Dshatila1983 2 года назад

    The defenses plays different when Henry is on then field compare to Foreman or Hillard.

  • @curlybearington1734
    @curlybearington1734 2 года назад

    It's a little disingenuous to compare backups to their star counterparts, when the stars face 8+ men in the box on nearly every down they're on the field and the backups rarely do.

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 Год назад

    Bro called it

  • @tanneredge9774
    @tanneredge9774 Год назад

    Josh Jacobs: TF YOU SAY ABOUT RUNNING BACKS?!

  • @purplecreature8178
    @purplecreature8178 2 года назад

    My cousin is a running back hes really talented he can cut back easily and make anyone miss but like alot of running backs hes gets hurt easily hes torn his hamstring his rotator cuff and broke some ribs and hes very small hes about 5'5 and weighs like 100 pounds

  • @BaseyCrown
    @BaseyCrown 2 года назад

    For every 1 example of a great next man up story there are 10 rbs that got a chance during an injury or in a committee and fell flat. You have to check every RB that got carries behind a starter on every team to make a fair comparison.

  • @Dimezprod
    @Dimezprod Год назад

    eams still run the ball. The Bengals,Eagles,Ravens,Giants,Titans,Broncos,Saints,Falcons,Dolphins,Vikings,Raiders,Patriots,Jets,Commanders,Cardinals,Steelers,49ers,Browns. What do most of them have in common? They are playoff/super bowl contenders.

  • @ap3718
    @ap3718 2 года назад

    Seahawks seem to be the only team to consistently cycle 2-3 running backs while not overpaying them

  • @PastorTrue93
    @PastorTrue93 2 года назад

    I agree for the most part. Especially backs in the Shanahan system. I feel like there’s a new 1000 yard rusher every year in that system. Backs are really a dime a dozen

    • @christopherf7242
      @christopherf7242 2 года назад +1

      It's more like...every game a new 100yard Rusher. The 49ers rushers are however always hurt

  • @tactful_colt8536
    @tactful_colt8536 2 года назад

    With that hat you got On I wish you would’ve talked about JT. I agree we can’t back up the brinks truck for him but we had a great O line when Marlon Mack played and he was good JT and dominated. This year we had a shotty Oline compared to the past couple years. I pray to the football gods that JT stays healthy

  • @ITSTHESWEETONE
    @ITSTHESWEETONE 2 года назад

    browns chilling with 6 runningbacks

  • @gremlinvibe
    @gremlinvibe Год назад

    Visiting this after my falcons picked bijan robinson over jalen carter 😅

  • @skeezix8156
    @skeezix8156 2 года назад

    The new nfl has shifted due to the rules. Can’t touch a QB, can’t tackle a WR too hard, you can’t even touch a QB’s nameplate on the back of their jersey, that’s a horsecollar now. The rules all favor a passing game.
    Why even run the ball.

  • @darkblack3320
    @darkblack3320 2 года назад

    I kind of want to see a team sign a random person behind an excellent line and see how they do

  • @IsaIbnHalim
    @IsaIbnHalim 2 года назад

    No one should play running back. Everyone should play receiver; ironically the best receiver will inevitably be handed the ball at some point, it’s all a mess.