Azathoth is not the Supreme Being of the Cthulhu Mythos
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2022
- In this video I go over several characters from the Cthulhu Mythos, in particular Azathoth and explain why he should not be considered it's supreme being. As well as discussing his connections with Mana-Yood-Sushai and the place that Yog Sothoth fills in the verse in relation to Azathoth.
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Working on a larger more comprehensive Cthulhu Mythos video at the moment but obviously that is going to take quite a bit more time to finish. Hopefully this is a nice taste of what to expect in the future though.
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Here i was serching for your depths of the cthulhu verse video and it turns out you haven't made it yet lol.... thats what i get fpr jumping the gun
Best of luck
Praying for another marvel vs dc battle
The one above all also not supreme being neither not anymore
Short version: Azathoth is the biggest threat to life in *this* universe. Reality is a lot bigger than that
Wrong. He’s above yog sothoth who encompasses realms beyond infinite multiverses and dimensions.
@@azzydreamurr5677 perhaps he surpasses him in single universes, such as an unlucky amalgam but isn't strong enough to take out the entire multiverse, you sacrifice some strength in order to take control of the entire multiverse
@@Link1213. no he’s above yog entirely
@@Link1213. what are you talking about? a fodder like hypnos is above the first gate which is implied to be comprised of an endless recursion of greater metaphysical hierarchy that completly beyond the concept of all dimensions, transcends multiverse which has uncoutably infinite numbers of higher dimensions, each universe extend infinitely in all directions, of which there are an infinite number in each universe, and higher dimensions have a definite qualitative superiority over lower dimensions. These infinite-dimensional universes in and of themselves are merely atoms in a greater cosmos, which makes up one higher level in a fractal of realities, all objects corresponding to that dimensionality are merely infinitesimal cross-sections of objects in the next dimension up, and this chain goes upwards to "archetypal infinity."
P. S. the intuition here is that in higher dimensions, volumes of spikes thin out much quicker as we decrease their radius. Think about triangles versus cones. If you hold the height of a triangle constant and make its base smaller and smaller, the area changes linearly. But if you hold the height of a cone constant and make the radius of the base smaller and smaller, the volume (which depends on the area of the base) depends on the radius like r^2. So as we make r small, the volume of the cone goes to zero way faster than the area of the triangle did.
@@ringo.9396 exacly
Sounds like the real Supreme Being was the friends we made along the way. 😏
In all seriousness, mind blown. I'd always wondered why Lovecraft had preferred to call it the Yog-Sothothery. Had explained it away as "Yog isn't a blind idiot, so he'd be keeping tabs of everything," rather than "Yog was the absolute supreme being itself".
"Begone, Thoth"
No being in the Cthulu mythos can stand up to the power of friendship.
how could Yog-Sothoth not be friend with everything as it is everything?
the power of friendship is beyond anything we've seen so far
@@tuluppampam
Maybe he is emo and hates himself
hahahah this comment is hilarious
Ive always been surprised why there is such a distinction among some when it comes to spliting the cthulhu part of the mythos from the dreamlands parts, like they are different things. Even tho characters, locations and deities are mentioned in both AND dreams are a huge part of pretty much all of lovecrafts writting its basically his magic system. Very strange.
Because they're basically written in different genres.
Most of Lovecraft's Cthulhu stories are very dark scifi, while the Dreamlands cycle is mostly whimsical fantasy, with only few dark elements present.
I think people make the distinction because that more fantasy-like quality of the Dreamlands tends to remove some of the horror of it all, and they prefer their Cthulhu-stories grounded in reality and the ephemeral stuff only be dark and threatening. I don't think it works quite like that, though.
@@Tacklepig ah yea that could be one explanation. Tho id still say alot of the dreamcykle do still touch on the themes seen in alot of other Lovecraft works. Loneliness, nihilism, the fear of death, lost youth that kinda stuff
@@jonryder7269 The Dream Cycle is HPL doing his Dunsany fantasy thing, probably with a little influence of George MacDonald as well. They only every slightly map onto the later Cosmicist stuff. Another mistake people make is to assume the revision stories he did for other people automatically connect up with the rest of the mythos, but that should never be taken for granted.
@@populuxe1 oh totally i can see that dude was a total nut for that stuff. Isnt there a Dunsaney story where a guy goes through a weird mountain and meets a bunch of weird creatures that later become parts of his lore?
I still think the dreamlands fit into whatever cosmology you make for him, tho i would add some asterisks around his collaborative writings. 👍
Not gonna lie, I'm extremely impressed that a parrot made all these videos.
He's not actually a parrot, silly.
@@andrewcoltzt1563 Duh, he's a webcam parrot
Parrots are the smartest bird, so not surprised.
@@andrewcoltzt1563 shush
You mean a shrimp fried this rice ?
Some suggest that Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlathotep and Azathoth are kind of the same entity. As in Azathoth is the brain, Nyarlathotep is the soul and Yog-Sothoth is the body.
That's what I thought as well.
But, ( correct me if I'm wrong)
Didn't nyarlathotep punch a sleeping azathoth?
@@Constantin_Valdor_ have you ever gone to bed and spent 2 hours staring at the ceiling regretting your life choices?
That’s pretty much what’s going on here, your soul punching your brain.
Actually Nyarlathotep is Azathoth's consciousness/soul personified, the Nameless Mist is Azathoth's body, Yog-Sothoth is his knowledge via the brain, and Magnum Tenebrosum is his throne.
@@Retr0Bunn13 lmaoo no mate, that's your own headcanon.
9:00 - "an untranslatable sign."
So there we have it: The highest being in Lovecraft's Mythos is the artist formerly known as Prince.
The Prince in Purple
What is the prince? In don't found he anywhere
@@lucasburil1732 lmao you dunno Prince? Search his name on youtube, and you'll see XD
@@lucasburil1732 Your clearly too young, my friend. Just look up Smooth Criminal.
@@BlankEmporium isn't that a Michael jackson song?
I always assumed Azathoht was HP Lovecraft himself dreaming of the universe he created an if he ever "woke up" from his real life issues that the cathulu mythos would end.
To me, Azathoht represents the ignorance of humanity. The multiple eyes representing people not noticing things that should be obvious to them. Things that are hidden in plain sight.
@@davonbenson4361 assinging anything human to Azathoth misses the point of a completly alien entity
@@unclecrusty5476 Art isn't made in a void, and since Lovecraft himself was a human being it's not possible to completely separate Azathoth from humanity. Who's to say that's not what Lovecraft had in mind when he designed it? Who's to say it even matters?
@@hirocheeto7795 we have pretty solid ideas of what Lovecraft meant through his fiction and letters. Any passing resemblence to anything human is a fault of the medium (alien concepts having to be expressed in humam words), rather then an intention of Lovecraft.
i thought it was supposed to symbolize cosmic insignificance in it's totality
Once again proving yourself to be the best power scaler on RUclips. Keep it up my dude
Bobobo is stronger
Sadly, Suggsverse stomps.
God you are doing a Lovecraft video? I can’t wait to watch it, I have been a big Lovecraft fan, it’s what got me into 40k. I can’t wait to watch more of your vids.
Explaining this video in one sentence:
Yog-Sothoth is everything,therefore he wins by default
He is Indeed Everything but Yog Sothoth Is actually Azathoth itself, because IF we are dreaming, everything inside our dream is a part of ourself, so simply, every Outer Gods In Cthulhu Mythos is actually azathoth itself.
@@aflitiatorbinomoril9748 bro are you fucking dumb I guess you just skipped this whole video 🤣🤣
@@aflitiatorbinomoril9748 did you even watch the video?
It clearly says that azathoth isn't the dreamer of reality, so you're factually incorrect
@@tuluppampam explain to me how, supreme archetype shit? sure.
@@tuluppampam he is tho this guys an idiot
Damn. I'm stunned. You really outdid yourself this time. We have been fed the same Lovecraft myths for far too long and it's time we started taking alternative takes more seriously.
Great video, I held this misconception so glad to get that sorted!
Yeah it was something I believed at one point too.
This isnt what id call a misconception
I'd call it a "misinterpretation" rather cause it does have some grounds rather then a misconception having none
The idea that Azathoth dreams everything is certainly a misconception but him just being the supreme being or something is more of a different interpretation yeah.
@@WebCamParrot fair enough
It's not like the presence tho where it's entirely unfound tho which is why I dont roll my eyes everytime I hear someone say it cause you can say it it's just a weak idea
@@WebCamParrot my view is whole yog is the supreme being
Azathoth is number two and CAN wipe out everything in the universe of it, that's why hypnos need to keep him calm
If they don't well he'll go on a tirade
Great video, cant wait for more videos on the cthulu mythos
Good stuff! I've been looking for some serious examination and discussions of all the Yog-Sothothery.
I read the thumbnail in the same way people read the no bitches meme
Same
This video is keeping me entertained while I wait to go to the OR to get my appendix hakai’d, thanks for good timing parrot.
Glad to see you uploading again
Honestly I prefer the misconception to the text, the idea of a sleeping god manifesting all of reality through their dreams, that we desperately and selfishly try to keep asleep to extend our existance which would simply and unceremoniously just end if it were to ever wake is just more interesting to me than yet another mindless destructive force of nature
Agree so much
i'm already bored of this version, i already heard it from "the elder scrolls" with Godhead. i guess the inspiration don't come from nowhere but i would prefer if it's not from the Cthulhu myth. a dream would only lessen the "chaos" feeling from this myth.
I disagree, as for us to have an actual concept of a creator deity makes lovecrafts universe less Eldritch - creator deities are a human idea, and to humanize the universe de mystifies the infallible.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 It still leaves a lot of open questions that I feel separate it from this issue, it implies that our world is in itself a dream existing in another world. We thought we were at least lice in comparison to the old gods but in reality the old gods were simply the passing thoughts of something far greater, and the implication is there is this entire alternative "real" world in which this being itself could be among the lowest of entities.
When we talk about an "Eldritch" universe, the last thing I want more of is giant hulking monsters on a trail of destruction, I want complex and strange creatures with unknowable intentions (and therefore completely unpredictable actions). A lot of the old gods that were written are either too human or too beast, which makes them understandable which removes the intrigue
I kinda disagree because stories like that tend to always stagnate.
You've thoroughly and completely earned my sub
Webcam just keeps pumping out bangers
Finally, someone with a platform telling everyone that the "It's all just Azathoth's dream" is not cannon Lovecraft. I don't have a problem with the theory, but too many people think that once they hear the theory, they think they understand the whole mythos.
I personally think the dream theory is too simple and too mundane. The universe being something we can easily understand and can relate to, seems very un-Lovecraftian to me.
Having Yog-Sothoth as a more powerful being being makes sense, because even when you get an explanation of what it is it is still esoteric and incomprehensible. The more all powerful a being gets the less comprehensible it should be in a Lovecraftian mythos.
The dream thing is still weak. To believe that and still say that Azathoth is greater than Yog is foolish. By Yogs' description, he seems like he is Azathoths' subconscious mind. In a way, that would make him more or less greater than azathoth (kinda).
In any case, Azathoth would obviously wake up *to something else* so he isn't the all encompassing existence. Neither is Yog but his description clearly puts him on top in such a scenario.
@@Trollamollex lmaoo yog sothoth was literally stated to be everything in the verse.
Lovecraft was so vague that it really isn't certain how powerful his version of Azathoth was, which was his goal as he focused on the fear of the unknown. I'll break it down.
We know that Azathoth was powerful enough to demand Nyarlathotep's servitude (though begrudgingly) and for several other gods to devote their entire existence towards keeping him at bay, that's about it.
If he IS weaker than Yog-Sothoth, it's clear he surpasses all of Lovecraft's other published creations in terms of power (who would serve him if he didn't).
My take? There isn't much given as to what Azathoth's actual power is, and that's exactly what Lovecraft wanted to do with him. Like Pandora's Box, he is capable of bringing untold havoc, but nobody can know what that havoc is until it's too late... Nobody except Yog-Sothoth, that is.
azathoth is beyond time and space. its mentioned in the books. yogsothoth is time and space.
I love that you brought the receipts. I’m going to need to digest this new head cannon.
I love your nails! And great video as always!
Can't wait for that cosmology video!
I'm actually blown away!! Thank you for this Parrot!! Keep it up!
Love you bro Iam soo happy to see you back
Nimsan was here
This is fantastic. One of the best mythos videos I've ever seen. You demonstrate a deeper understanding of the mythos than anyone else I've had the pleasure to find. You've expanded my understanding in a number of ways and I appreciate it. I have subscribed to your channel. I've read all of Lovecraft's fiction but never his letters.
I think I considered Azathoth dreams to be our reality, our world, all that we can see and experience with our limited senses, what we would call our universe. But it is such a small part of the real everything that our sudden absence would hardly be noticed. Isn't that the point? Aren't we no more than motes of dust? And when dust gets in your eye, you rub it out.
I've been calling Azathoth the most powerful being in fiction then I found this. Thank you sir for the enlightening on this topic.
@@zombiedemon1762 Not really. All those being exist within reality and others like MANA-YOOD-SUSHSI make the concepts that form reality.
@@8sins236 . Oh.
Scp 001 swan's proposal might beat fiction tho
@@8sins236 In reality isn't that powerfull.
Nah i can beat all of them because I'm outside of their reality
I changed my mind, Azathoth is not the Cthulhu Mythos' version of God. He is actually the savage, primal and monstrous personification of chaos.
The one question I asked and it is now being made into a video, finally.
Insightful and amazing
Everybody's gangsta until Azathot's gaze falls upon them and they are disintegrated into thousands of fragments of individual living nightmares only to be united again and become the embodiment of despair reflecting upon themselves in a mirror their own image as if another simulacrum within the infinite depths of the corpse of the unborn godhead.
Or maybe they just get goatified like the son of Yog-Sothoth, Wilbur Whately. Perhaps every one of Lovecraft's creations has a different creature that it likes to mutate you into.
@@eggroll3055akin to bloodbornes where great ones seek to have children
I've always considered Azathoth to be the reader.
The reader of the story creates the universe they are reading about in their mind, but they can destroy it by simply not thinking about it.
That happens in Lord Dunsany's God of Pegana, too. Trogool, the thing which was neither man nor beast.
You clearly haven't read any of the material
To put it simply, Nyar is the pencil, Aza is the erasure, and Yog is the whole book..
Thank you. Very enlightening commentary on the topic.
Glad to see this channel getting a lot of attention
Both Yog-Sothoth and Azathoth solo my favorite verses anyway, so it doesn't really matter lmao.
Yeah, but I still find it hard to fully comprehend how powerful they are and what their limits would be.
@@Cipher_Paul
Yog-Sothoth would not have limits. He is a truly infinite being so trying to define limits for him is an effort in futility.
The funny thing here is the role of both Unnamed Darkness and Nameless Mist.
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 well then we have to fall bag to beating him with paradoxes, can he find a task he is not able to complete?
@@lassehoffmann625
He does not have limits and is therefore beyond logic. So the answer is ultimately a paradox in and of itself being both yes and no. Paradoxes are essentially meaningless to beings like Yog-Sothoth.
Wow I always just assumed Azathoth was the strongest fictional character due to him dreaming, but this really debunked that. Thanks for clearing that up.
Even if that was the case Azathoth would be nowhere near the top. The SCP cosmology, for example, has an infinite stack of narratives which nothing in Lovecraft can compare to. Suggsverse and Dark Tower do similar things.
@@gigachad167 You know Yog Sothoth? The one who this video says it the real supreme being?
They exist in SCP. They're not even above the bottom narrative, either.
And while I hate to admit it, Dark Tower is indeed top 10. Cthulhu Mythos, however, is not.
@@gigachad167 I am a fan of SCP, though I highly dislike Dark Tower. Either way, the Cthulhu mythos has nothing on the level of Absolute Infinity.
Nice try at trolling though
@@opossumleader3645 SCP is a shadow of its former self. Nobody cares about your Absolute Infinities because that's not what SCP was supposed to be about, it wasn't meant for battleboarding. Nonetheless, the 5000s and 6000s barely compare to anything that's come before.
@@gigachad167 scp isn't fanfiction its metafiction
Always learn something new from you. Great Job with Cthulhu, its pretty misunderstood.
Can't wait for more
I’m interested to learn about lovecraftian lore
Parrot spitting facts again! One little problem with the video is that the music is overbearing sometimes but maybe it's just me, since my ears suck ass.
Noted, I kept messing with the volume of the music when I was editing and not being happy with it. It was always either too loud or too quiet lol.
@@WebCamParrot Perfectly fine, as long as I know you are trying that is enough for me to keep watching lol. That and u make amazing videos!
@@WebCamParrot It's better to error on the side of the music being to low, rather than too high. That way your voice is audible to those of us who have bad hearing
@@WebCamParrot if your recording software has the option, also try enabling volume automation for any voice tracks, should help it remain clear even with the music
A Mythos cosmology video? Hype!
lovecraft fans and comics fans are basically the same neither read the stories but still spread false information as if they knew about it
a Lovecraft video! Mans really do be listening to his viewers
I like the idea that yog is the mind of azatoth that left him and became an entity himself, leaving his body with enormous power behind.
Thats good
Nyarlathothep is Azathoth's mind and soul.
Fascinating. Really appreciate the deep cut into what Lovecraft actually wrote into his lore, this isn't something one can know from just a cursory introduction via some of his works.
It makes me very happy that you used music from Mechanicus for this
Thank you for the dreadful maddening soul rejoicing enlightenment on who is truly supreme
One of these days you should make a "How Strong is Dungeons and Dragons?" video. It is after all the Godfather of RPGs.
It'd have to be a big video, since power levels vary greatly between various official settings, but I second this as an awesome idea.
Tier 2, innit? They don't seem to do higher dimensions, just parallel worlds.
Depends on which setting (and edition, don't get me started on punpun)
Damn, I subbed. Interesting.
I didn’t know the Cthulhu mythos had power scaling but here we are.
My view was always that Azathoth, Yog Sothoth, and Shub Niggurath were pretty much equal facets of the primal aspects of reality, and Azathoth was only placed above the other two because he represented entropy and the end, which implied that even the other two would succumb to it eventually.
But this blatantly untrue. Yog-Shototh, as discovered by Carter, is everything. Yog-Shototh is the transcendental force that empowers all existence; allowing existence to, well, exist. Without Yog-Shototh there would be nothing. No Azathoth, no Shubniggurath. Nothing. Why? Because Yog-Shototh is everything.
@@BlankEmporium Well, that's your opinion, but Yog Sothoth was born from Azathoth, through the Nameless Mists, so the opposite is actually true. Without Azathoth, Yog Sothoth would never have been. This is from Lovecraft himself in his Selected Letters. And while Yog Sothoth is the embodiment of all space and time, even space and time end and die, which is the domain of Azathoth.
@@Blackferret66 Yog-Shototh isn't the embodiment of anything. He's everything. He's not an avatar, or some physical concept. He's everything.
And also, Azathoth has no known relation to Yog-Shototh. Howard wrote a joke in response to a friend of his claiming to be an offspring of the Roman God Jupiter. Howard also included himself as a descendant of Yog-Shototh, going so far as to say "I have only demons in my blood."
Sure, Howard wrote Azathoth is Yog-Shototh's grandfather... As a joke... To a friend... Who claimed to be a literal Demigod.
Even further, there's no indication Azathoth is even sleeping in Lovecraft's works. It's description seems to suggest a fully awake, mindless, monster whose the embodiment of chaos.
@@BlankEmporium FFS, are you, like, and actual worshipper who thinks that Yog Sothoth is a real thing? Because you sure come off like it.
@@Blackferret66 No, I'm not a damn idiot. I know fiction when I see it.
"The greatest mercy in the world is humanity's inability to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of the black sea of infinity. It was not meant that we should venture far." - H.P. Lovecraft
Webcamparrot been spitting
I thought I was a recent subscriber. I watched an older video of yours from 2 years and saw my own comment and was like huh? I must be suffering from early dementia. Guess the RUclipss didn't wanna recommend me your videos despite the fact I've been subbed since then
Just saw the video title and "what? How? Why?"... Here we go again webcamparrot video that I need to watch 7-8 times to understand.
I think a major leading factor to the azathoth centric view commonly held is partly coming from from of the Chao magic grimoire one of which relates him to the sun and pushes him as a solar archetype.
Wasn't expecting this
I'm intrigued
Azathoth: I dreamed you all into being!
Yog Sothoth: Sure grandpa, now finish your √{¢\¥]•{^{
As many oointed out, azatoth is the strongest in this universe, so he is some kind of growing tumor within this reality... what is lovecraft's multiverse of horrors is all contained within a dying entity or maybe is just a complex and cool version of cancer...
I love seeing Smite art finding its way to these types of videos
I found this channel by pure coincidence and have no idea what is being talked about but I now want to read Lovecraft.
I myself ever since i got into the Mythos believed Yog Sothoth to be a greater force than Azathoth, based purely on what we're told of the multidimensional being of Yog Sothoth, and being those dimensions themselves, part of time and space but also locked out of it at the same time at higher planes. Yog Sothoth is also a primordial intelligence, being one of the few intelligent elder gods along with Nyarlahotep, but being infinitely more wise, being connected with time itself. This isn't to say Azathoth is far below him, they are really opposites, Yog is all knowing and all being, while Azathoth is, well, the blind idiot god and all consuming. There is some dualism with the two. While I personally do believe Yog to be greater, they're still two opposing cosmic forces that shape everything there.
He is powerful but never forget this is all Azathoth's dream, he is just one fake being like the rest of it all in the mythos for when Azathoth wakes it's all over which leads me to my point; Azathoth is far above Yog as he is the unwitting creator of all of these powerful beings although he does not directly influence the multiverse which would require him to be sentient(awake) and therefore end the dream and all of this.
@@habadobobado9729 Azathoth's dreams are specific to the physical universe and the Dreamlands. The First Gate transcends Azathoth. The Last Gate, preceded by an infinite number of Gates each infinitely transcending the last, is still nothing compared to Yog-Shototh, who is everything. Including Azathoth.
Yay Lovecraft content!!
more of this please!
Interestingly it goes with my vision of the Old One's cult after multiple earing of lovecraft's entire audiobook compilation... Great work aud argumented anylisis! Thumbs up!!! ^^
... Ia, Ia, Yog Sothoth!! Ia, Sub Nigurath! Ia, Ia, Asthur... Ia, Ia, Yog Sothoth Glanl Na Faghn...
Parrot you absolutely outdid yourself and this video is one of the absolute peaks of your channel
Ik you don't like questions but this is one I've had for awhile, is yog-sothoth what you'd call the strongest in fiction
I adore you and your channel and would love to talk to you more eventually
Imo yog is above but azathoth is the second strongest (not counting avatars or archetypes) and while I myself don't mind azathoth being above because well there is evidence but its more slim imo
Like, in all of fiction? There are plenty of more powerful characters in fiction due to Yog still being treated as a character in a multiverse. Any author level power would outrank it due to being a creature that theoretically can affect the non-fictional world. For instance, even Deadpool can just rewrite himself to be more powerful than Yog and even make killing him have no adverse effects on the reality that Yog IS.
Going away from the more meta levels that comics do, there are plenty of characters that defeat manifestations of reality or omnipotence, especially in anime or other east asian inspired mediums. The protagonists from persona 5 kill capital G God, and Saitama from One Punch Man effectivly has the super power of being unbeatable. For that matter, any character with Toon Force or other comedic abilities like Bugs Bunny or Bobobo would also be able to beat him.
I guess in short, since he is still just a fictional character, there are plenty of other fictional characters that have the ability to defeat all other fictional characters, so long as the writer desires. Which is honestly less of a cop out than it sounds
@@blockhead134 lmaoo no kid. Stop. Yog sothoth solos your garbage dc, marvel and scp at once.
You are clearly a troll. Go to bed.
@Nyarlathotep dude said saitama beats yog. 🤣🤣
@@blockhead134
Saitama never had the power to be unbeatable though.
He is a gag character, but his gag is vastly misunderstood by people because they never take the time to check if their own interpretation is correct.
The gag isn't that he is able to one-punch anyone, it's that he is a "end of series" protagonist put at the very beginning of his own story, as said by the author himself.
Of course this creates the side effect of him not having anything else to accomplish anymore and being able to one-shot anyone in *his verse* for now, but that's just like if you put Hokage Naruto up against Zabuza, or Ultra Instinct Goku against the Red Ribbon Army. Both of these characters would easily solo the verse up until they respectively arrive against Kaguya and Jiren, but it doesn't mean they can't lose or can one-shot anyone.
That's just a side effect and not the gag in and off itself.
And at the end of the story he'll finally find a worthy opponent anyway.
Saitama would easily be beaten by a bunch of people from other Shonens since he doesn't have any feat higher than Small Planetary.
And even then, even if he were to be able to beat anyone in one punch, it doesn't mean he can't be defeated.
You're two levels deep in the misinterpretations of Saitama's abilities.
If Saitama can't land an attack on his opponent he can't win. A bunch of characters have durability negation.
He can even be sealed, or erased, or teleported away.
Saitama is nothing special.
Meta Fiction is still 100 % fictional
and could actually be a antifeat
Because Verses with Metafiction is Fiction within Fiction
While Verses without are not a Story within the story making any being from a Verse without Metafiction infinitly more powerful than any with
now this is quite a revelation. damn, am impressed. i thought that "myth" was a true fact that Lovecraft intended. seems Azathoth is not that important in the long run.
He’s still powerful enough to fodderize something like TOAA and the Presence objectively but yeah he is no match for Yog
I refuse to believe this heresy! (:
@@nono9543 Not really, he isn't even near that level really
@@antoinepolnareff8970 lmaoo yes kid he one shots your whole marvel and dc combined.
@@gigachad167 You clearly have no idea about Marvel cosmic entities
Yo, Respect for using Dance of the Cryptech!
Love the Mechanicus soundtrack in the background.
Damn this whole time I thought Azathoth was the big daddy of Yog Sogoth and Shub Niggurath; and sleeping blind idiot god (whose apparently an entirely different entitiy). I really need to catch up on the lore of HP Lovecraft again. Very informative video.
Azathoth is still the big daddy. Parrot is wrong.
@@ChurchofCthulhu Lol you sure?
@@brantcloyd5485 Yes in Lovecrafts letter it placed Azothoth at the top even if it was a joke it shows that he viewed Azo as top dog. Yog maybe everything but it's Azo who dreaming of him.
@@windandcloudshadow158 where can you read the letters?
@@windandcloudshadow158 Through The Gates Of The Silver Key (written the same year in 1933) says otherwise.
Lovecraft called it Yog-Sothothery for a reason... nice vid
Ah yes. Interesting conviction, WebCamParrot.
Well... I feel very lied to now. Interesting video, I appreciate the information.
I always thought that Azathoth represented Lovecraft himself, or at least his brain that imagined and created the monsters in his mythos
It's really ambiguous on whether Azathoth or Yog is the top dog of the setting, depending on how you read Through the Gates of the Silver Keys and connect it to Hypnos
Hypnos is clearly about the Dreamland, while the silver key is about the gates and something clearly above the Dreamland
There's no way it is ambiguous, as things are completely separated
Blake nearly traveled to Azathoth's court, yet when he arrived to the First Gate he says it surpasses everything he's ever witnessed before.
Good video
Thanks for clearing up this misconception, now I have a better grasp of the situation.
I don't understand why people keep commenting and replying that Azathot dreams everything.... Have you guys not watched the video, it's false
I thought the whole point of Azatoth is that it is... well.. blind, mindless and without sound or reason. Just a maddening and mindless chaos, so confusing and perplexing that even gods go mad and join in the dance.
Of course it isn't 'powerful' or the like... it literally doesn't do anything but sit there and be confusing. The other old ones have ambitions and plans and agents and want stuff. That makes them dangerous. Azatoth just IS. Kinda comparing apples to pears.
wake up honey, there's a new webcamparrot video
Parrot Goated video,could you do a TES vs Cthulhu Mythos video?
07th expansion=Cthulhu mythos>>>>>>>>>>>tes>>>>Warhammer>>>DC imo
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With strange aeons, even Death may die
While i would agree that Yog is greater then Azathoth i would add that Azathoth is described as more destructive kinda like a cancer festering in the complete beign of Yog-Sogoth it gives them a nice duality imho.
Yog cant get rid of Azathoth because he as everything is part of him.
And Azathoth could not consume Yog because then he would consume all of space time and beyond and therefore himself
What's the music in the background? Seems like a remix of something familiar but can't put my finger on it.
Warhammer 40,000 Mechanicus OST - Dance of the Cryptek.
Check out that entire OST. It slaps.
As soon as I recognised the song, I had to pause the video, then find and play the song out. Lastly, for a review of the game: Mandalore Gaming - Mechanicus.
What is the background music? Sounds so familiar, but I am not sure since it is hard to make it out.
So the world of Lovecraft is a Neoplatonic one with Yog Soggoth as the idea of the Good?
Or Schopenhauerian with Yog-Sothoth as the Will.
Just a reminder, that the Multiverse exists in the Cthulhu Mythos. It irritates that I forgot which story that I read it from but my point is, there's a lot of potential of many more powerful beings in the Cthulhu Mythos. You may take this with a grain of salt and I also did myself since I forgot which story it was from.
Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth both exist beyond the reaches of dimensioned space, which the multiverse is very much tied to.
the background music is dope!!! what is that song? reminds me of warhammer 40k mechanicus soundtrack...
I have a question: what is your take on the Fungi From Yuggoth poem that Lovecraft wrote? The one where it does mention Azathoth dreaming and the Flute-playing Outer God's music combining with...something to create the cosmos' eternal laws? Do you think it provides solid evidence for the Azathoth dreams everything crowd, or do you think it's just a way to artistically describe Azathoth's mindlessness by pointing out he can't understand even his own thoughts and dreams?
Also, I don't want to sound entitled, but are you still working on the next Cthulhu Mythos video about the Great Old Ones? Cthulhu is one of the most enigmatic figures in all of powerscaling, and I am dying to hear your take on him. I hope you are still planning on doing that video, but I understand if don't have the time or drive to do it right now.
Man, I always thought the whole dreaming entropy god was canon. I'm still gonna use it though because it is cool as fuck, but I'm glad to actually know about this!
That title got me shook ngl
Can you share the name of the music in this video?
I love the mechanicus background music
God this is so cool to listen to
I’m big on the Cthulhu mythos but haven’t actually read many books so what a revelation it is that not only is the family tree is wrong but azathoth isn’t even as powerful as some deities in the mythos
read the actual stories.
Azathoth is above everyone besides yog (archetypes and avatars)
You can argue he's the strongest in cm but yog has more evidence
Part of me thinks that Azathoth acts as a sort of cosmic "engine" for Yog's universe/multiverse, Aza has no thoughts of his own and what he creates is managed by Yog and Nyarlathotep
exactly. Azathoth is akin to the Greek myth of Chaos.
Nice Barnes & Nobles edition of Lovecraft writings. I bought that as well and it's worth every cent spent on it.
This is a great video. You really convinced me that Yog Sothoth is a better candidate for the Cthulhu Mythos supreme deity. I have to admit I was reluctant and fairly married to the Azathoth dreaming the universe theory. Do you know the source of the "Azathoth dreaming reality and being kept sleeping with music" theory? I feel like everything that I was certain of is wrong, lol. Seriously though great video. I would like to track down the source of the popular debunked theory.